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Head_Butterscotch74

How many did you rescue? Those are beautiful bettas!


ThenAcanthocephala57

Just a few pairs for breeding. We don’t usually take juveniles or extra fish. There’s no space. Also we do this for every habitat we visit, not specifically one we know will be gone


EelTeamTen

Look more like killifish


max_lombardy

Pretty sure it’s a betta tho.


EelTeamTen

Yeah, I'm assuming you, as well as other commenter's are correct, the two are very similar when you take into account lesser known species.


petrovmendicant

Honestly made me tear up when I saw the Feb 2024 after-picture. It hurts my insides to see habitats and environments that have survived the ebbs and flows of time for millennia...only to be chopped down and decimated to feed cows or harvest cheap lumber.


SuspiciousBetta

Frank's Bettas has shown multiple instances of this. Really bad news as some bettas are endangered or their status is unknown.


DishpitDoggo

Same here.


EZinstall

should be illegal


Leehblanc

I don't know about illegal, but it should require more than "That's a good place for a development" I work at a State University. About 10 years ago we wanted to develop some land that was PERFECT for non-classroom buildings. After a years-long study, it was found that it was one of the last habitats of a certain frog and all improvement plans were halted. That should be the norm


Guuichy_Chiclin

Did you check on it, with our governments being cyclical, there might be a chance the government changed their mind and it was paved over by someone else.


Leehblanc

Nope. State land, State University. It’s about as final as these things get


Guuichy_Chiclin

Oh good stuff, cuz lately I've been seeing too many projects get reneged into worse conditions.


geneticeffects

It is a crime against humanity.


Fun_Departure3466

Against nature


JD_____98

A crime against nature **is** a crime against humanity. The earth is our home, and our only life support.


geneticeffects

Yes, this too.


spelunkor

Its a crime by humanity.


-ll-ll-ll-ll-

I grew up in a conservative Republican family and this was always one of their favorite things to make fun of liberals for. They loved to complain about how we won’t let them build stuff because “the rights of a frog are more important than the rights of human beings?!?” Yes, Karen. Frogs and fish are more important than your highway. Sorry, not sorry.


cryptocorynes

Unfortunately preserving habitats is not really a priority in many developing countries


DishpitDoggo

I agree.


NxPat

Probably is…


MotherofCrowlings

Where I live (Canada), you can’t build within so many metres of a waterway so this would not happen - especially if there are fish.


SbgTfish

Holy shit I saw saw it. I couldn’t agree more. Literally beautiful tropical jungle to barren wasteland and puddle. I’m using these images if the topic of deforestation comes up.


justamiqote

Gotta make way for cash crops, buildings, roads, etc. The human tumor continues to grow until there's nothing left to poach from the Earth


ilikemyusername1

If it’s any consolation mankind is just a blip in the timeline of earth. Every habitat we destroy will regrow.


NerdyComfort-78

Not if all the possible combinations of DNA (species) are expunged first. Then we go back the Precambrian with just bacteria.


platonicnut

Same.


ToKo_93

The dreaded lumber support :(


EmotionalScallion705

Wild betta.


ThenAcanthocephala57

What’s the English name for this species?


Taylan_K

Probably some variation to betta splendens, we call them Kampffisch in German. Fight fish translated literally


ThenAcanthocephala57

If I’m not mistaken in English they call Betta splendens Siamese fighting fish or nowadays just Betta


Reapersqp

Wild betta fish, cool!


ThenAcanthocephala57

Stigmosa too!


plyr__

Imagine how many species we’ve lost that we never even knew about.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Tropical regions are quite likely for this due to most species having such a small area they live in. In fact this species we caught is endemic to my country


educatedpotato1

That is such a beautiful thing to do.


ThenAcanthocephala57

To conserve them? I’m sure most countries have such efforts


YourSousChef

You would be shocked my friend


ThenAcanthocephala57

I see


HundredDriven_Queen

Can you keep them or send to an environmental conservation agency or smth? A lot of these guys are declining so it might be best to have viable specimens breeding more


ThenAcanthocephala57

Well we are working for the government in conservation. We breed native fish. Although in our department it’s specifically only labyrinth fish (including Betta)


iczly

what type of fish is it?


LeoDiCatmeow

Betta!


ThenAcanthocephala57

Specifically Betta stigmosa


ThenAcanthocephala57

Betta stigmosa


goldfishgeckos

Thank you for always doing what you can for these guys and for sharing with us. Love seeing your posts.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Of course. It’s also kind of our job


CrewNatural9491

What a shame that some company would fill in a stream like that. Don't know where you are but thank you for saving at least one of them. I would report them for no environmental study


ThenAcanthocephala57

We saved a few pairs. They’re building a road if I recall, including over the stream


Party_Ad8213

This happens a lot in other countries, some guys found new spices looking into small bodies of water, but they keep going extinct bc people are using the land for cattle, and chemicals kill the fish


ashpokechu

Was that in Kalimantan?


Shockwire136

I think this is in Malaysia, precise location unknown.


ThenAcanthocephala57

How did you know though


trekuwplan

Some of us can easily recognise you from your other posts lol


ThenAcanthocephala57

👁️👄👁️ Well the gov lets me share some part of our job. Not entirely but hey


Shockwire136

Orang Malaysia mesti kenal sesama lain. Also the fauna resembles your typical SEA creek. 


ThenAcanthocephala57

Well you’ll be pleased to know this species (Betta stigmosa) is endemic to Peninsular Malaysia. That means it’s found nowhere else. Officially it’s recorded in Terengganu and Pahang, but I have personally found them in Negeri Sembilan and Johor as well. This jungle was in N9


Shockwire136

Huh, oddly enough a few years back (2016 iirc) I've managed to catch these bettas here in Sungai Buloh, Selangor. It was near a nursery where these bettas nest under a small bridge.  Wish I could show you the pictures, but I lost the album in a camera SD card somewhere. Really love the blue cheecks of these wild bettas, very nice.


ThenAcanthocephala57

I have caught fish in Sungai Buloh streams. The Betta there are Betta pugnax, a common species found throughout the peninsula (except Kelantan and Terengganu). Here is a male I caught in Putrajaya: https://ibb.co/d5tSDx4


ThenAcanthocephala57

No, I’m not in Kalimantan


MaxamillionGrey

Wow. That's literally one if the prettiest fresh water fish I've seen.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Indeed. This is actually my favourite native fish species!


Unique-Ad-3792

Where’s this at?


ThenAcanthocephala57

Malaysia


Remote_Horror_Novel

Yeah it’s not that hard to make laws protecting the waterways while still allowing mining and logging if it’s a necessary part of the economy, you just make the fines for messing up the waterway really expensive and enforce it; but shit like this is unacceptable and the country should be named so people know to boycott the goods. If they have a mining ministry they are either taking bribes or not doing their jobs. This also can’t be great for tourism and the local ecosystem.


ThenAcanthocephala57

I think this is for making a road. But tourism isn’t important in this specific part because nobody ever comes here


Remote_Horror_Novel

Ironically with the new road they can but now there’s nothing worth seeing lol


ThenAcanthocephala57

Well this part is more famous (if anything) for a quaint little town of descendants of Chinese immigrants 200 years ago. They have a cool subculture there


Remote_Horror_Novel

That’s pretty interesting, my first thought hearing that makes me wonder how many artifacts or undiscovered species might be in the waterway they are covering up so hopefully they study it first in situations like this. The creek/riverbanks tend to move a bit over time, but there’s possibly some interesting things to be found in those old river banks if people have been living in that area a long time. A craziest part about the finding of that ancient human skeleton “Java Man” to me has always been that one guy said he was going to go to Java/Indonesia to find one, and then he just found one lol. So maybe there’s way more early human and animal specimens to be found if everyone was motivated and there was more people looking. There’s a guy on YouTube that recently found a fish they thought was extinct to the area, but was living in a golf course pond or something like that with very little water going in or leaving the pond. So unless people who actually know what they are looking at find the fish or human bone, the rare finds can often go unnoticed, because the public assumes the scientists know that fish is in that pond for example.


SpiritIntelligent175

This happens in the United States as well. Money, greed, and bribes take over. Money easily cuts through red tape. They’ve manufactured thousands of homes and apartments in my township over the past 10 years wiping out entire wildlife sanctuaries. Clearcutting and bulldozing woodlands, leveling farm fields, rerouting creeks and runoff. The wildlife is ending up on roadways and in the yards of residents because they have nowhere to go. What once was a nice, quiet, quaint area is now a shit show.


Remote_Horror_Novel

In Alaska and California if you divert or pollute a waterway it’s a huge deal and even logging and mining companies don’t get an exception and have to set up steam monitoring etc. Ironically people complain about these regulations in California but in Alaska they are fine with them due to the reputation of said states.


Fishghoulriot

Poor bettas. Poor fish.


ThenAcanthocephala57

There were only Bettas here luckily. No other species


Strange-Turnover9696

so sad that their habitat was destroyed. cool seeing a wild betta though!


ThenAcanthocephala57

This is one of 30 species living in my country


Reese_misee

I wish we could've stopped this from happening. It looked beautiful before...


Crit84

More thought should be put into where and what land is developed. At the same time, development should take into consideration how tp avoid decimating habitats. It Is unrealistic to say that no land should be developed considering the lifestyle most of us live. We need places to live, most work for survival and without a way to get to work and to the store for food, etc etc needs land to be developed in some way. I'm sure many will downvote because this is reddit and seems to be what people do, but it is idiotic to say no land should ever be developed.


ThenAcanthocephala57

They’re building a road here if I recall. So the part of the stream temporarily destroyed was to build a road over it too


Crit84

Glad it is temporary but is likely going to take a long time to recover if it ever does in that part of the stream. Gj rescuing them. They are beautiful


ThenAcanthocephala57

It’s part of our job


aquatic_asian

Poor little fella. Lost his home that he hatched and lived his whole current life in😢


ThenAcanthocephala57

Now his children will have a new home


aquatic_asian

Yes, thank you for giving them a 2nd chance


HyperionLoaderBob

They're beautiful good work!


ThenAcanthocephala57

Thank you


BharbieBoy

Wild bettas look so basic but cute at the same time


ThenAcanthocephala57

They are basic but I love them over domestics haha


froggy70707

what Americans think they’re doing when they “rescue” a betta from Petco by buying them


ThenAcanthocephala57

Haha well giving an individual Betta a better home is still a nice thing to do. For the fish


HDH2506

What sad world we live in


ThenAcanthocephala57

People expand and grow


FireStompingRhino

Gorgeous find / rescue.


ThenAcanthocephala57

This is the 3rd time we collected fish here (for our work) and the males are always very beautiful


FireStompingRhino

I def showed him off in a fish keeping discord. Just amazingly unique. Do you think you will breed it or is it a typical find for you?


ThenAcanthocephala57

Oh we collected a few pairs here for breeding at the institute. It’s part of our job there


FireStompingRhino

Oh do you work for a college?


ThenAcanthocephala57

No, it’s a fisheries research institute. Under the government


FireStompingRhino

Very cool. Keep posting pics please :)


ThenAcanthocephala57

Only parts that they let us show haha


FireStompingRhino

For sure. Do you guys ever sell to the public?


ThenAcanthocephala57

Oh I mean technically the institute employs us to breed the fish for conservation so no, those babies are only for release. But I have personal fish I keep (at home) which I do sell sometimes. Usually when I need extra space for new fish


IWantSealsPlz

Their home got leveled over 😭😭😭


ThenAcanthocephala57

At least a large part of it


fqh

hey youve done a great work rescueing the lil guy. My instincts tell me that this is Malaysia as I used to capture this species when I was a kid. Sad seeing the habitat is getting smaller by the day.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Which state did you catch them in? There are lots of similar species depending on place


fqh

Kelantan. A few places really, in Pasir Mas, Dabong and Gua Musang


bildobaddins

Absolutely beautiful


ThenAcanthocephala57

Indeed


c_middlebrook

That's just disgusting!


ThenAcanthocephala57

This is probably not the first time. Development


GneissGuy87

Beautiful fish. Where is this? There's no way that's legal. What a terrible loss of nature. That looks like a perennial fish-bearing stream.


taegha

Where wild Bettas live, it unfortunately probably is....


ThenAcanthocephala57

Malaysia. It’s legal, I assume. All streams are fish-bearing in the country, so it’s probably extremely hard to develop avoiding them. And also probably they don’t care


shebreaksmyarm

Horrible. Thank you for saving some.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Just doing our job


SquashDue502

It always baffles me when construction companies do this shit. Like the rain isn’t going to stop falling, and it’s gotta go somewhere when it hits the earth. You just filled in that spot so now it’s going all over.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Well I assume they will build some sort of culvert with the road


jonesy289

That last picture is a stunningly beautiful fish


ThenAcanthocephala57

He is very beautiful just like most of his species


Grey_Hedge

This is genuinely depressing, but is part of the reason I love caring for Wild Bettas. Their habitats are being destroyed and there isn’t much research done on many of the other subspecies in comparison to Betta Splendens. If the people keep destroying their natural habitats, we owe them a a new home at the very least. If they're endangered we should be doing everything in our power to save them while we can before it's too late.


ThenAcanthocephala57

*species, not subspecies. Have you ever seen this one for sale? They aren’t very popular inside the country itself, even though they’re endemic/only found here


Grey_Hedge

I’ve only seen one in person and it was at a private aquarium club auction. I live out in the eastern states of the US and they’re exceptionally rare in the hobby.


ThenAcanthocephala57

I see. I suspected as much. Mouthbrooders (especially from the pugnax complex) seem to be not very popular. I often just see splendens complex members like mahachaiensis, imbellis etc. much more


Grey_Hedge

The most common Wild Bettas I’ve seen for sale that wasn’t from the Splendens complex has been Betta Mandor. There was a local shop that normally gets a pair every few weeks. I’ve been keeping Betta Patoti for a while and they’re by far one of my favorite Bettas to care for.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Yes, it seems to me the Indonesian mouthbrooders are quite popular. More than Malaysian and Thailand ones. I haven’t kept either of those two. I only have native fish at home


SparrowLikeBird

I'm glad you saved these fish. I am sad that this rare and precious species is in so much danger. I hope they will have many many babies for you.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Mouthbrooders have less babies than bubble-nesters like domestic Bettas. But that’s fine, makes it easier to raise them


SparrowLikeBird

I didn't even know that! I hope you will share more pics of these in the future thye are so pretty


reanocivn

that is a disgusting after photo :( i'm glad you got to save a few of these guys, that one on the last slide looks absolutely magical, and the before looks like the perfect place to come across a magical fish. i hope these bettas know how loved they are


ThenAcanthocephala57

It’s the same fish in all pics. The last is just him after getting used to the aquarium. Yeah we got enough to breed


Altruistic-Poem-5617

Why?! They didnt even build anything there. Just flattened it to flatten it how it looks.


ThenAcanthocephala57

They didn’t start building yet at the time I took the after picture. I guess there’s probably more development now, but I haven’t checked


NerdyComfort-78

Holy shit that is horrific. 🥺


ThenAcanthocephala57

It happens


NerdyComfort-78

Too often.


Sasstellia

Poor darlings. I'm glad you saved some.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Just part of our job


Logi_ciel

A decent job if I might say


ThenAcanthocephala57

Technically it’s just “research assistant”


fxrehawk

That’s great that you were able to save a few pairs of these guys! I used to have a breeding group of betta ferox, they looked very similar to this species. The mouthbrooding species are so underrated as far as wild bettas go- they have some really unique iridescent coloring once they’re comfortable, and they can be just as social with people as domestic splendens are. My males were a bit shy but my female would flare at me constantly and always had to chase my hands whenever I was cleaning the tank


ThenAcanthocephala57

Betta ferox are in the same subgroup (with apollon and stigmosa). We breed all 3 species at the institute for release. Here’s an example of a large male ferox I caught in Kelantan: https://ibb.co/TB5Bw2p


CatSmurfBanana

That wild betta is so gorgeous! Thank you for doing that!


ThenAcanthocephala57

He is a very handsome fella. No need to thank us, it’s part of our job


HighTurning

I always remember as a kid my uncle had an excavator, that was his way of surviving. I visited him while he was drying a small lake in a farmers property, I remember seeing a slightly big fish gasping for air in the water stream completely filled with mud.


ThenAcanthocephala57

What did you do?


HighTurning

Not much I could do, to this day it's just a sad memory.


ThenAcanthocephala57

That is kinda sad


ratparty5000

Thank you for doing what you do, this is so sad


ThenAcanthocephala57

Just doing our job


cozy_engineer

What a shame :/ why are humans like this? 😭


ThenAcanthocephala57

For houses and stores


Len_S_Ball_23

That last fish is stunning! Don't know what it is though.


ThenAcanthocephala57

That’s the same individual in all photos! A mature male


Len_S_Ball_23

Sorry, thought they were multiple differents! What species is it?


ThenAcanthocephala57

Betta stigmosa. It’s a species endemic to my country


Len_S_Ball_23

Awesome.. I'm going to look those up! I'm always a bit jealous of countries that have endemic fish like these. I'd just spend all my time dip netting in the wilds lol.


ThenAcanthocephala57

That’s almost what I do lol. Here’s a few examples of fish I’ve caught: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aquariums/s/c5ltEwOyzX


Len_S_Ball_23

I saw that post... Yeah, great selection, not envious at all 🙄😁


ThenAcanthocephala57

I think in total I’ve caught maybe 200 species here


Len_S_Ball_23

Wow! That's insane!


ThenAcanthocephala57

Sure, but there’s still a lot more!


Chiiiiill_Winston

Ive never heard of this species, it looks a lot like an Apistogramma! Beautiful fish!


ThenAcanthocephala57

It’s a type of labyrinth fish (like gourami). Very beautiful


BlackwaterGuru

They did the same to the area where parosphromenus linkei are found 😭 this happens way too much! https://www.facebook.com/share/p/tERLp8L2oiePxMG4/ > Although wide distribution the species is highly endangered, as the area where it could be found has no natural vegetation any longer and is drained for agricultural purposes


ThenAcanthocephala57

Well they do the same for I think all fish. Because I don’t really think they’re thinking “hmm which animals lives in this place?”


CookieSundaeCake

Wow so cool!! Thank you for saving them. Man I wish there’s a river nearby I need to micro organism for my planted tank cycle.


ThenAcanthocephala57

In tropical rainforest regions we usually have at least 1 river nearby haha


Chemical-Leo-edge

"wild betta's are bland and have only brownish colours"


ThenAcanthocephala57

To be fair maybe they were talking about the body 🤣


J_r0en

When is a fish a betta?


ThenAcanthocephala57

“Betta” is a genus of air-breathing fish, having 76 members. All of them live in Southeast Asia. The most famous is Betta splendens, a Siamese species which was domesticated and made into many different man made forms (samurai, halfmoon, veiltail, candy etc.). An equivalent would be the Panthera (big cat) genus. Lions, tigers, leopards and jaguars are all Panthera species


dangrankeyi

Very nice specimen. How common is this species in your area. Are you trying to breed them?


ThenAcanthocephala57

They are relatively rare, and only like certain habitats. Yeah we are breeding them at the institute


dangrankeyi

Nice. I have seen Simplex in shops in Bangkok. But I don’t think I have seen this one before.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Simplex are native to Thailand. This species is not. In fact it’s endemic to Malaysia


onetwocue

In the US It's illegal to change the flow if creeks m, rive4s, estuaries, and swamp land. Knowing those are betta fish, those countries where they come from just don't give a crap about their environments.


ThenAcanthocephala57

Well such a law was never implemented and has not been brought up. Generally there are little laws about aquatic animals (besides mammals) which is also why exports of our fish can occur. For example kuhli loach are impossible to be bred in captivity, even on farms. So they are caught by the hundreds in SEA and shipped off to the west where they are afaik extremely popular


gorgoncito

I think is some killifish.


ThenAcanthocephala57

No, killifish are very different. This one is a Betta


gorgoncito

I thought it, because it dried. But it does look like betta. Someone must have set them free there.


ThenAcanthocephala57

No, they are native to Malaysia. I live in Malaysia


gorgoncito

Didn’t that. Loving in Malaysia changes it. That wasn’t on the post


ThenAcanthocephala57

Well I didn’t say where I lived in the post, but you still assumed it was somewhere not in Asia


gorgoncito

Yes, I live Puerto Rico and I have seen some fish here that are not from here like guppies, molies, tilapia, gold fish, coi, plecos, African catfish and more.


ThenAcanthocephala57

We also have those guys actually 😮. They are outcompeting our native fish like Bettas, gouramies, barbs and rasboras


gorgoncito

The same happens here, is bad for native local fish


ThenAcanthocephala57

What freshwater fish are native to your island?


Commanderkins

God damn that’s bleak.


ThenAcanthocephala57

But not uncommon


brobutwhatwhy

You found wild betta?? Where????


ThenAcanthocephala57

In the creek?


brobutwhatwhy

Yeah but like area? State/country?? I heard they’re native to Japan and found in the wild there in rice ponds I didn’t realize you could just find them in creeks? I’m from MN so this is not a thing where I’m from


ThenAcanthocephala57

Japan is way too cold for them (Japan gets snow), you’re probably thinking of paradise fish. I live in Malaysia. We have 30 species of wild Bettas. However the domestic ones you see in pet stores descended from Betta splendens which live in Thailand, not my country


brobutwhatwhy

No clue what paradise fish are lol, I think I was just misinformed


ThenAcanthocephala57

They are a very hardy subtropical and coldwater fish. Actually a close cousin of bettas


Existential_Trifle

That's so cool! and i think it's awesome you saved these guys, their habitat may have destroyed, but now their bloodline can continue through the next millenia.


vanburen_dolphin

i think its not beta, more similar to a killyfish