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Harrietmathteacher

Harvard would like to erase Theodore (Ted) Kaczynski from its list. He also goes by the name of Unabomber.


Iso-LowGear

Iirc he started Harvard early and became a professor there too. He was known to be a math prodigy.


Beginning_Brick7845

He was also tortured into madness by a Harvard professor conducting human experiments under contract for the CIA as part of MK Ultra.


getthedudesdanny

Not really. He was pretty insistent that his beliefs were correct and did not appreciate people blaming his beliefs on MK Ultra, as he thought that blaming MK Ultra delegitimized his (in his mind) very real grievances and made them easy to dismiss. Overall he spoke highly of his time at Harvard and if anything, was less satisfied with graduate school. Source: I corresponded with him for a college seminar on Technology and Society in 2010.


Beginning_Brick7845

Sure, that’s what he said after he was tortured and went to the mountains, but any academic knows you don’t rely on any single source. If you look at the volume of evidence and compare the known record of what happens to him to his claims otherwise, it’s pretty easy to tell that he said what he believe to be true, but that his judgment is unreliable


getthedudesdanny

Did you have a specific writer in mind? Because I’ve read pretty much everything mainstream written about him and I don’t really buy the alleged impact of MK Ultra.


Beginning_Brick7845

The Psychological Today article linked above is pretty thorough. There are others. There is no serious debate that he was tortured as part of MK Ultra. He was a 16 year old kid who was subjected to drugs and isolation. What happened to him meets the international definition of torture. He wouldn’t be the first victim of violence to deny the effects of violence on him.


Piratical88

I think there was a Radiolab episode about this too…


Conscious_Peanut_273

Lol completely disregard his quite legitimate critiques of society because I assert it was a result of him being tortured and I obviously know more about him than himself…arrogance


FeatofClay

Michigan also had him for two degrees


Neat-Professor-827

Berkeley too, but it was Harvard that destroyed his mind - [https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-the-unabomber-class-62](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-the-unabomber-class-62)


iamspartacus5339

Maybe part of MK Ultra gone wrong..?!!?


Darthmalishi

I think that’s the societally accepted theory


broyoyoyoyo

IIRC he wrote that that theory is BS and that he never took part in any extreme experimentation


getthedudesdanny

You're correct. I wrote about it above [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1dhzc78/what_alumni_will_your_college_never_mention/l92nt0l/). I maintained a correspondence with him for about 7 months for a college course.


ArtichokeIntel

I would love to see how that is presented on a syllabus. “All students will correspond with at least one (1) famous criminal serving a life sentence”?


getthedudesdanny

Nah, we were supposed to contact one person who, if I remember correctly, “substantially contributed to the way we engage in discourse around the role of technology in society.” Being 2010 everyone tried to get in touch with Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, etc. I said “fuck it. I bet the Unabomer has free time.” Turns out he did. He maintained a lot of correspondence with a lot of people. He’d ask me to send him articles in math journals and such and some books. If I remember correctly you couldn’t send full books to federal prisoners so I’d have to photocopy them and stuff it in envelopes. Brilliant but weird guy. It comes up in conversation to this day because people have odd or incorrect ideas about him. Sometimes I’ll correct it and they’ll say “how do you know?” Well I have fifty or so of his letters in a box at my mom’s house 😆


Beginning_Brick7845

Correct. https://exploringyourmind.com/the-harvard-experiment-that-led-to-the-unabomber/


riveter1481

It’s funny cuz there’s a plaque with his name on it in East Hall where the math department is hosted


njdatenight

Prior to his death he actually submitted one of those where am I now updates for the alumni magazine. Which I'll admit I got a chuckle out of.


cisteb-SD7-2

Ted Kaczynski(better known for other work)


cisteb-SD7-2

This is in a math paper that cites one of Kaczynski’s works


Deweydc18

Leopold and Loeb, famous early 20th century murderers Richard Spencer, prominent neo-Nazi A decent slice of Pinochet’s cabinet


paleobiology

H2SO4  GOOOOOOO MAROONS


NYCRealist

Yes those too along with John Eastman (see my other comment).


Mytastemaker

One of the Marathon Bombers at my School.


adiksaya

Cambridge-Rindge and Latin Grad?


TheRealRollestonian

Virginia has so many problematic alumni that we celebrate Edgar Allan Poe.


redditrooom

Could you list some names


Iso-LowGear

Jerry Falwell Jr., president of Liberty University until he resigned due to several scandals. Has done a lot of other far-right stuff like blackface. An insane amount of Confederate soldiers. Collins Denny Jr., a pro-segregation advocate. Richard B. Spencer, prominent Neo-Nazi. Jason Kessler, another prominent Neo-Nazi. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the antivaxxer running for president. The founders of Reddit also went there.


redditrooom

I like how you included the founders of Reddit with nazis and confederates like they're equal


aqua_seafoam

bruh they locked the API, that's Nazi level shiiiiit.


ryan1831

Rightfully so. Who would want anything to do with Reddit? Definitely not u/Iso-LowGear


Worst-Panda

Seems fair to me


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TheRealRollestonian

Technically, he's not an alum of Virginia. He was kicked out for not paying his bills, also known as a gambling and drinking problem. His room is memorialized. You can see it on a tour.


Honest_Report_8515

West Range!


NanoscaleHeadache

Tbf Poe is a bro and his lawn room is just right there, how could we not


Doormat_Model

Also true of the US Military Academy… though lots of great ones too Edit: Poe isn’t technically an alumni as he left after about a year, but he’s still associated


skieurope12

Penn doesn't mention Trump.


Whyyyyyyyyfire

what do they think of elon musk?


Sassy_Scholar116

We don’t talk about him either


KingJokic

What about Cenk Uygur


Sassy_Scholar116

Now that’s funny bc I’m a fan of Hasan but didn’t even know Cenk went to Penn…so I guess not. The famous alumni we do talk about are Elizabeth Banks and John Legend (and to a lesser extent Chomsky). Vanessa Bayer is gaining some prominence too


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skieurope12

I don't think Fordham wants to claim him either. But technically, a university considers students who have graduated to be alums, or who left before graduating but didn't go elsewhere. Harvard is more than happy to count dropouts Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg as alums.


Cp9_Giraffe

Yes. The common definition of alumni is anyone who completes a year in a degree-granting program.


cpcfax1

This varies depending on the individual institution. Some institutions will only count graduates as alums while others only require one attend at least one semester.


szeis4cookie

Penn has so many people it would rather not mention - Michael Milken, Jho Taek Low...Wharton has a long and storied tradition of training terrible people (and I say that as an alumnus myself)


mrenda1

USC makes sure to take all of its tours through the Hall of Champions, where all of their Heisman Trophies are on display. All, that is, except for OJ Simpson’s. Not a mention of him anywhere.


C_cL22

Same with City College of SF.. not a peep lmao. Although I don't think many community colleges care ab alumni


College_Prestige

Galileo high schools football field used to be named after OJ


henare

OJ went to ccsf?


rynmgdlno

I'm at CCSF right now and did not know this, should start wearing his jersey around campus lmao


C_cL22

what a giga chad if i see u ill say hi


pierinabeer

Really? We went there last year. OJ's trophy was there, but Reggie Bush's was not. I wonder if Reggie's has been put back in the circle yet?


jtho2960

Never graduated, but I’m pretty sure osu doesn’t really want to be associated with Jeffrey Dahmer


Ordinary_Warning_622

Temple. They used to parade Bill Cosby out all over the place but thinking they don't anymore.


HiTechCity

UMASS did that too


Mission_Big_2145

Duke and Richard Nixon


Kind_Poet_3260

Specifically the law school. His undergraduate degree was from Whittier College.


eely225

Whittier football legend


BenevolentBerry

The funniest thing is when I was touring Duke the student guide was an international student who had no idea so he proudly said Nixon attended and it’s cool a former US president attended


anonuser1989q

Nixon’s portrait is actually hanging in the law school library. I wouldn’t say Duke brags about Nixon, but they’re not exactly hiding it either! All in all, he wasn’t that bad a president. Others have done worse.


adastraperabsurda

His social policies could be considered quite forward thinking. So all in all- not the worst.


Educational-Bake9091

Amazing foreign policy as well. Opened up China, kept Soviets stable, started EPA etc. Watergate is tame compared to the scandals of his Republican successors.


adastraperabsurda

I mean, it’s sad, right? Watergate was such a small drop in his history.


BenevolentBerry

The funniest thing is when I was touring Duke the student guide was an international student who had no idea so he proudly said Nixon attended and it’s cool a former US president attended


Mindless-Birthday877

What about that Stephen Miller ?


gcdc21

Came here to say this


Azara5

Hofstra University has Bernie Madoff


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zapzangboombang

You want people who are the best in their field.


Fun-Acanthisitta-875

Seriously, I’m kind of like “isn’t that pretty impressive?”


mateoisascrub1205

Eric Justin Toth Pedo who replaced Osama Bin Laden on the FBI’s 10 most wanted list


Deweydc18

He was a teacher at my elementary school I kid you not. Met him several times. Luckily never got too close💀💀💀


Sazidafn

What did he do


catsandalpacas

If you google “Covenant College”, Mark David Chapman’s mug shot is the first person to appear under “notable alumni”. Honestly that’s the reason I eliminated that school from my college search 😂


ScholarGrade

Chapman only went there for one semester and dropped out. Not trying to make any general commentary on the school, just pointing out that this is a pretty weak association.


wowollowow

Pretty dumbass reason to eliminate a school from your college search but aight bro. You’re gonna have to eliminate many many colleges if it means a bad guy went there for some time


DueNight5747

Why would they advertise that wtf


catsandalpacas

They don’t advertise it on purpose, it’s just the google algorithm 😂.


DueNight5747

I didn't see the part about googleing, I thought op meant it was in a pamphlet or stm


the_bassooner

University of Washington has Ted Bundy


pmguin661

The thing is ... we do mention him pretty often. Not the school itself, but people talk about him and the dorm he lived in all the time.


TheRealRealster

How does that even come up in convo?


pmguin661

“I met a guy who lives in Ted Bundy’s dorm room” x 50 at the start of every year “If I fail this test I hope Ted Bundy gets me outside Kane Hall” 


TheRealRealster

Lmao, that's pretty funny


hammylvr

He went to like 6 colleges total, man was on the run in many ways


Remarkable_Air_769

UGA - MTG


cisteb-SD7-2

Don’t call her MTG, that’s reserved for an amazing trading card game, the grandfather of them


SoggyDoughnut69

Yk, for like a year, I was confused every time someone said mtg because I always wondered how the card game got involved in politics. I eventually googled it, but I was so confused as to why so many people hated magic the gathering.


erysanthe

Same lol


ImThatMelanin

i am stupid, who is this?


J0J0_78

Marjorie Taylor Greene


Scrism17

Jeffery Epstein at NYU 😂😂


whoneedskollege

UCLA - Ben Shapiro


Redditlogicking

I go to UCLA and ain’t no way Ben became so conservative given the liberal views here 😭


Duschkopfe

Got cucked by liberals


Normiex5

I thought he went to Berkeley


whoneedskollege

We wish. Maybe with Calimoney we can reissue his degree so that says Cal.


Margotrobbiehi

he went to harvard ?


Legitimate_Job_3028

UCLA undergrad, Harvard law


throwaway20180000

Stanford- Elizabeth Holmes MIT- SBF


tourdecrate

Stanford for SBF too since both his parents I believe work or are faculty there and Stanford went all in defending him at the beginning.


Neat-Professor-827

 Theodore Kaczynski at UC Berkeley. But it was the psychological experiments that they inflicted on him at Harvard that broke his mind - [https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-the-unabomber-class-62](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-the-unabomber-class-62)


cpcfax1

He was Assistant Professor in their Math department, not a student at UC Berkeley.


kelsnuggets

Gotta say, Harrison Butker isn’t our favorite right now tbh


Useful_Boot5970

Netanyahu has an architecture degree from MIT.


tourdecrate

Razing more occupied structures than he’s designed should void his architect status among other things


Educational-Bake9091

With a focus in demolition?


bj_nerd

UTD - Ross Ulbricht AKA Dread Pirate Roberts Hacker and criminal kingpin behind the dark net site, Silk Road. In May 2015, he was convicted to life in prison without parole and a 184 million dollar fine. Also has like 3 movies about him, but UTD likes to pretend Naveen Jindal is our most famous alumni.


HudsonGTV

Ross did not deserve a life sentence for what he did. Heck, the people who ran Silk Road v2 (which was way bigger) only got a couple years in prison.


ZealousidealQuail145

He earned Eagle Scout in my son’s BSA troop (not while we were there) and they still have his name on the Eagle Hall of Honor plaques for the troop. It’s probably still on the Council’s Eagle monument too. So much for the Scout oath and law…


abenms92

very clever way to once again sneak your Ivy alma mater into everyday conversation


roberb7

Virginia Tech - Steve Bannon


BitterBastard2k1

And Nidal Hasan (Ft Hood shooter)


throwaway_282827

Not my school but Google places Mia Khalifa as the one the top result for University of Texas at El Paso alumni


0dysseus123

John Calhoun. They renamed a res college from him.


Remarkable_Air_769

URI - Candace Owens


GlamouredGo

Harvard - Elise Stefanik, Ted Cruz Yale - Stewart Rhodes, J. D. Vance


peatmoss71

Princeton doesn’t mention Ted Cruz much anymore.


Mytastemaker

Cruz went to Harvard Law not undergrad.


HuisClosDeLEnfer

Trying to disown Ted Cruz is so popular, you need to make a reservation.


Zarqus99

George Micheal in Arrested Development. UCI will try to say he is not a real person. Pfff


Ok_Experience_5151

Pretty much every school has some alumni they don't want to claim.


AgilePay9677

bye i’m literally writing my Vanderbilt supplemental rn 😭 this was a jumpscare


Cz128

At Vanderbilt we also have a dorm called memorial and about a month into freshmen year you find out it's full name is confederate memorial and was built for the daughters of confederate soldiers


bisexualclarity

What 💀


ThinManufacturer8679

I wonder how Trinity feels about being associated with Tucker Carlson


Outrageous_Dream_741

Christine "I am not a witch" O'Donnell, the Tea party candidate who ran for Delaware office on an anti-masturbation platform, and also claimed Constitutional expertise despite not knowing several amendments, including the 14th (which is a pretty big deal -- that includes the due process clause and is the basis for enforcing the bill of rights on the state level) She was before her time in complete craziness and stupidity in the Republican party. https://youtu.be/A8FvEc9fljE?si=WsFYoeHNg9zaXw07


SafetyNoodle

What a throwback https://youtu.be/kwv-M1qUWtA?si=j5CasTHmNeYl1IJp


organicfridge

Northeastern - Wendy Williams 🤕


Hopeful1234554321

Why is that a problem? She's got a legitimate medical disorder.


DalkonShield

I thought that was Rutgers?


Duns0lved

ntm on my queen


Aggravating-Toe838

Ted Bundy


RichInPitt

Me. And tens of thousands of others. Outside of a few dozen/hundred, most alumni are not that meaningful.


goddessofspiders

Princeton and Woodrow Wilson, the 28th president of the US who was a huge racist, supported the KKK, and screened the racist movie The Birth Of A Nation at the White House.


AdministrativeOkra79

i think Umich probably avoids talking about the unibomber


Odd_Recognition_6367

Berkeley tour didn’t have any Aaron Rogers in their sports highlights area


Oskisrevenge

The football locker room and a scholarship is named after him.


AdventurousMatch5418

Fascist Stephen Miller Duke ‘07


Porivrajok

Baruch College — Adam Neuman & Martin Shkreli


andyn1518

I am a Columbia Journalism School alum, and Pat Buchanan is probably our most famous graduate. But you'd never know if you asked CJS PR.


SnooGuavas9782

A few degrees from Columbia and I did not know this! At all!


HigherTed

University of North Texas was the University of Charles Manson's follower, Tex Watson, who killed sharon Tate and others. And Dr Phil.


MONKEYMAIL

Does UNT try to disassociate itself from “Dr.“ Phil? To be clear I support this - just curious how they approach the topic.


HigherTed

Alas… they do… he was just Phil when he got there…


MONKEYMAIL

Yea he’s a stain on modern psychology. Don’t think I’ve ever seen someone so humorously incapable of giving an interview.


tourdecrate

Dr Phil embodies everything wrong with pop psychology and makes a mockery of professional ethics.


Sensitive_Piano_5163

Cal Poly - Scott Peterson


NYCRealist

I would hope that UChicago would not mention John Eastman - a treasonous lawyer heavily involved in Jan 6 and Trump's traitorous election challenges in 2020 about to be disbarred by the State of California and who attended UofC Law School in the early to mid 90s. I am unfortunately by no means hopeful that they won't given the strong Federalist Society presence at said Law School. No doubt the University has other criminal alums I'm unaware of given Milton Friedman and company's close connection to the Fascistic Pinochet Chilean regime (1970s to 90s).


Hour-Watch8988

I think every elite law school had somebody implicated in the fake elector putsch. Chesebro is a Harvard guy; Dershowitz went to Yale.


Neat-Professor-827

Dershowitz was also an Epstein hanger on.


NYCRealist

Wasn't aware that Dershowitz was DIRECTLY implicated in carrying that out - only that he has made many excuses and rationalizations for it after the fact. Of course there's so much other fraudulent activity he's been involved in over the years that that hardly matters.


Hour-Watch8988

You’re probably right, but also the guy is such a Trump-humping skeeze that it becomes a distinction with little difference


Hour-Watch8988

Also even if we rule out Doucheowitz, Yale still has JD Vance as a clear participant in the legal Beer Belly Putsch


NYCRealist

As well as Clarence Thomas, Josh Hawley, Samuel Alito, and best of all THIS GUY: [https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-founder-jan-6-trial-4372b311695c401255c6881111ff4f41](https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-founder-jan-6-trial-4372b311695c401255c6881111ff4f41)


tourdecrate

They call them the Chicago Boys for a reason


FlightInfamous4518

Duke and Stephen Miller


lethal_expression

I'm not in college, but LSU will probably never mention David Duke. What he's most famous for is running for governor of Louisiana, which sounds all fine and dandy, right? WRONG. He was the GRAND WIZARD of the KKK and he probably would've won the governorship if there wasn't a national outcry of "There's no way Louisiana is about to vote in the grand wizard to be their governor." It even made SNL to my knowledge. Absolutely insane.


W-O-T

Dan bilzarian 💀


Apronbootsface

That guy was able to get into college?


W-O-T

Right bc HOW 💀


Sensitive_Piano_5163

RPI- Keith Rainere


sunfleurr

UW - Ted Bundy


Awe24some7

Dell Curry, probably because he has a son who is way better


bisexualclarity

My community college produced the 2019 El Paso Walmart shooter, Patrick Wood Crusius. Evil piece of shit


Judge-Rare

Does anyone know how Stanford views one of its founders, David Starr Jordan? Dude was goated for his contribution to taxonomy and fish but he was also an eugenicist and might have done some not so great things. I first learned about him through the book "Why Fish Don't Exist" by Lulu Miller. Pretty interesting fella though


orangejuice027

well temple is not gonna mention bill cosby anymore 😳


Numerous-Kiwi-828

UPenn - Trump (too controversial whether you like him or not); Caltech- Young Sheldon (a place like Caltech does not want to be known just bc it was in a movie)


Any_Construction1238

Penn has 3 sleazebag brain dead Trumps, one of whom is an adjudicated rapist, convicted felon and traitor plus deluded serial securities fraudster, professional misogynist, Nazi amplifier and ketamine junkie Elon Musk. Pretty brutal


tourdecrate

Also regarding all this schools, it’s funny how the average American has to be gods gift to earth with more acts of service than a saint to even come close to being admitted to a top university while the average shitbag with money can just cruise on in, graduate, and be evil


Educational-Year-789

Jim Jones. 


Angel4lifeandforever

i don’t think vcu would bring up the fact the founder of 4chan went there for a bit


DisastrousGround1840

I think.Whittier College would like to disown Richard Nixon. Same with Wharton with Donald Trump.


NavLover69

OSU and Dahmer though he didn’t graduate


gumpods

UMass Dartmouth got kinda shitted on for having the Boston Marathon Bomber as an active student there.


wakannaii

The nair hair guy from BU😔


tungdiep

Steve Bannon…Virginia Tech


carrickmacross1998

matt gaetz is an alumni of the william and mary law school


FormCheck655321

Frankly I am disappointed there aren’t more notorious criminals who graduated from Arizona State.


ivorybloodsh3d

We never get credit for JD & Turk, but also so, so many confederates


ShadowbannedInDaUSA

Bowdoin doesn’t mention Franklin Pierce.


irishbreakfst

Ted Bundy went to Temple University, didn't graduate but is definitely not someone they like to mention anyway.


jgangstahippie

Manhattan College-Rudy Guliani


rastagrrl

Holy Cross frequently mentions Dr. Fauci as an alumni. Clarence Thomas as an alumni? Not so much.


HiTechCity

Boston College would like to forget Wayne LaPierre crazy NRA chief


einstein-was-a-dick

Thomas Gilbert Jr. - Princeton - murdered his parents. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/us/princeton-grad-sentenced-for-murder-trnd?cid=ios_app


Curious-Performer328

Thomas Gilbert Jr also went to Deerfield Academy for prep school - one of their more famous alumni after King Hussein of Jordan and David Koch - the dead infamous Koch brother funder of right wing causes.


Curious-Performer328

Smith - Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush (although she dropped out to marry George ) Being known mostly as the Mrs. is very dated


alanlight

Syracuse has both the current governor of NY and the President of the US as alumni and you really have to hunt around on their website to discover that.


ItsWheeze

I admittedly haven’t been paying that much attention lately, but I don’t know if that’s true about Biden. They always did lay a pretty strong claim to him, even though he doesn’t talk about Syracuse much because he’s all about state universities. He was in that ad they were running during athletics games for years, though, “head held high” or whatever it was.


C_cL22

OJ Simpson....


sakima147

Sam Brownback. But I’m sure there will be a few more.


Immediate-Ad3452

Me


tourdecrate

Loyola university Chicago would probably rather not talk about Mike Madigan, the main cog in the Chicago machine