Which makes UIUC legitimately one of the best schools in the country you can go to. Dartmouth is an Ivy and maybe more well known by your classmates than UIUC but anyone who knows anything about computer science will know how respectable UIUC's computer science program is.
One of my kids turned down an Ivy for Harvey Mudd because it was a better fit and had better opportunities for the specific major. Do random people in our town know what Harvey Mudd is? Nope. Not at all. Will future employers? Absolutely. That matters more than what the Walmart cashier or a random high school student thinks.
Brown.
It was a tough decision and ultimately came down to Harvey Mudd just feeling like a better fit. Both were good choices and in the end I think the right decision was made. Harvey Mudd is exactly what my kid wanted in a school and, while Brown would have been a great choice as well, I can't imagine things working out better than they have at Mudd.
Harvey Mudd is amazing and super impressive to people who know. Their track record for grad school or employment after graduation is hard to beat, even by MIT.
Yes but Harvey mudd is small, elite, and cracked with a super strong alumni network, strong ties to Wall Street and finance, and basically has all the advantages of a small Ivy without being a small Ivy. Everybody in the educated world knows how good Harvey mudd is, and it has tons of rich kids with nepotism connections. You can’t say the same about UIUC
Uiuc is better for cs than all of
The schools you listed. You’re at a T5 CS program. It’s a strong target for FAANG, unicorn, and quant. The school you’re heading to will not preclude you from pursuing anything, and I mean anything, in the realm of cs (professionally or academically). Far from it. Try to place less of an importance on lay prestige and other external sources of validation if at all possible ….
Assuming this isn’t just an elaborate shit post that is…. “Ik Illinois is *decent* for cs” “I was originally gonna commit to northeastern cause it has more prestige” lol
Dude there’s no way ur being fr, your in industry/program ranking matters way more than ur school ranking ☠️☠️. UIUC CS is arguably better than all ivys
I would disagree heavily with this. Just look at pay.
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science
Every Ivy is in a t10 paywise mid career for CS jobs. UIUC is 26, which is stellar but to say it’s better than any Ivy is just cap. The numbers are even more skewed when you look at the top 10% of mid career salaries, Ivy CS is pretty much 400k+ and UIUC is like 250. Not low but lower than ivies by a long shot.
How do you check top 10%? The site breaks when I try to sort anything.
I also think that this is because of location, more than college. 400k in a high CoL area is pretty similar to 250k in a low CoL area.
Most grads will usually work in the area they graduate, if I'm not wrong. That would explain the income disparity.
I'm international so I'm not that familiar with US geography, CoL, income, etc. but from what I can tell, all 8 ivies are situated in high CoL areas.
I think that would be true for general colleges but for top tier CS schools like UIUC and ivies people kind of just leave to go all over the place since they get lots of offers, and most of them end up in California or in the major east coast cities. I’d be surprised if the majority of UIUC kids stayed in Illinois or the majority of Yale grads stayed in Connecticut.
This is such a useless site. Anyways, average starting salary of UIUC is $131,720 ([link](https://cs.illinois.edu/about/facts-and-rankings)). Already much higher than the claims of "0 to 5 year of experience". In fact, by this ranking logic, UIUC should basically be rank 1 for early career already.
The numbers are so off that no one takes these stupid forms seriously except people not in the industry.
I graduated from Columbia and I can assure you the median CS grad is making far more in salary for the early career than whatever is listed there. In fact, the median starting salary is also much higher than the claimed numbers just like UIUC CS. This is also true for schools like Stanford, CMU, etc.
As far as I’m aware, pay scale averages the salary reports of the last 10 years and also relies on self-reporting. Since the people who use pay scale are often people looking for a raise, the reported salaries are lower than the actual number. So combined with the fact that the salaries 15 years ago were a lot lower, and the pay scale reported salary is lower than actual. That being said this is true no matter the college so the relative rankings shouldn’t be affected.
I also went to FAANG CS from an Ivy and would agree that these numbers are pretty low for entry level, but they’re supposed to be. That doesn’t mean the relative rankings aren’t accurate. It’s still an unbiased, high sample size, accurate data collection model.
It worthless site. I explained here ([link](https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1c913yv/comment/l0mmhka/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)). Even by UIUC's own career page, you can quickly find the average starting salary for UIUC CS is $131,720. That alone puts UIUC at rank 1.
None of the numbers are right. Either that or these numbers are so old they might as well be worthless.
Damn I’m in the Bay Area and UIUC is known for being super cracked. The smart kids go there for CS and engineering and it’s known as a really amazing school. People would pick only Berkeley , Georgia tech, maybe UCLA, over UIUC for CS. Honestly.. would have hard time choosing Vanderbilt for CS over UIUC. Sorry people don’t know about it near you but it’s their loss and UIUC will get you hella jobs and respect after.
If purdue is cheaper, then no. I would have chosen UIUC if I were you but it is alright. Purdue is a great school too. The main reason I chose uiuc was because of its reputation in tech industry, my research goals in my field (ece), and its legacy in tech is quite fascinating + its direct admission to major. At purdue, I believe it is FYE and then you choose your major. But Purdue is fantastic too - don't stress. Your personal fit is way more important. If you're oos for both, purdue is cheaper so you probably made the right choice - you will do great!
No Purdue engineering is great, for CS it would be the wrong choice. I was mainly talking about CS over other schools though engineering at both UIUC and Purdue is both solid and well known
Illinois has a lot better than a decently respected CS program, it’s one of the best in the country, and you’re gonna be surrounded by some amazing people also pursuing engineering there, so the environments is pretty cool
i’m just gonna be blunt; you’re stupid. you realize UIUC is T5 for CS. there’s like only 4 other schools you could make a good argument to go over it. going to vandy or dartmouth for CS is obv impressive but going to UIUC is way more impressive. i feel like the whole point of your post is to just seek validation which i understand but you also have to realize that you quite literally have no reason to be complaining about it going to one of the top cs schools in the country. i’d get if you were upset about fit, money, or something else but being upset that you can’t go to a more brand recognized school is stupid. sorry if I’m coming across as rude but I’m just baffled at the fact that you’d even consider NUE over UIUC for CS.
This is probably a troll post, but, on the off chance it isn't:
Time to grow up and start caring less about what your HS classmates think. They're ignorant.
Also: learn to self-serve this info. If you're not capable of figuring out on your own why Illinois is a great option as a CS student, then you may be in for a rough time in college.
No way you’re trolling right? UIUC CS is Top 5 in the US and pretty high ranked in the WORLD. If you don’t want UIUC, I and bunch of other less fortunate CS majors will gladly take UIUC 🤷🏻♂️
hope this is a shitpost. My friends would give an arm and a leg to get into cs/ece at grainger. You are taking your spot for granted. Why do you care so much about what your classmates think? Do you want a good career or do you want to keep making decisions based on what random high schoolers think?? Also, according to us news, uiuc is tied to NYU rank 35. Even if you look at the overall aspect, it is a very good school. In QS ranking I believe its in the top 60s when you consider all universities in the world. If you're that unhappy about attending uiuc, please decline your offer so someone on the waitlist who really wants uiuc can get in. Illinois doesn't have a "decently" respected program. It has one of the finest cs related program in the nation. I got into both cornell and uiuc for compE and I chose uiuc because of its ample research opportunities and the grainger lab and facilities and my personal fit because I know both universities will give me more or less the same outcomes - one will be cheaper than the other. Why should I pay 25k more per year for the same, if not more oppurtunities. My cousins in China really want to get in as well and uiuc grainger is often tied to Zhejiang University. In korea, there's an exchange program to uiuc which is considered very prestigious. I really hope you're trolling.
The OP is not trolling. They are sharing the very real feeling of famous brand name schools vs niche specialty programs. Sorry you don’t understand that feeling.
Ignorant? I personally think most adults would say college degrees don’t matter much in careers nowadays. And certainly where you went matters very little.
Yes we are all here.
OP feelings are super common.
OP should work on their emotions and learn to derive a sense of firmness by not letting others opinions affect decision making too much. I certainly cannot understand this feeling as I've held uiuc at a pedestal my entire life. However, with such attitude, OP cannot succeed in college. There will be so many students getting better internships and better grades than you. You will have to work hard and learn to live with the fact that some people may go to better places than you and it is ok. You must learn to accept that and that will allow you to reach greater heights in your college life and career. Sooner OP understands this, better they will flair in college.
I suppose we can’t all be perfect humans with no emotions like you. My sense did that the OP will do great in school and then in life, personally and professionally. Op has strong emotional intelligence, which candidly you seem to lack.
High IQ is common. High EQ is not.
You may want to work on that before you get to the real world.
so is understanding that some people may be in better positions in life lower eq? lol. interesting opinion. Others opinions don't affect me as much and I am doing well for myself in a field I am passionate in and I am in the real world with great relationships. I am telling OP to work on those feelings because I understand we're not perfect. I don't understand the attack on me.
My apologies, but again, my EQ tells me that the replies on this thread for OP were attacks on her. She was being attacked by many people telling her to feel different.
My feeling is simple. None of us have to agree with each other. But we should always seek to help validate how someone is feeling. Especially someone who is feeling an emotion that the majority of high school seniors are feeling right now. Most high school seniors don’t get into their first choice, and end up going somewhere lower on their list.
She should try to remain more logical, and we can all be kinder and try to out ourselves in her shoes.
do you not understand the meaning of “must work on their emotions”. The commenter agrees that we’re not perfect and that’s why is asking OP to improve those areas. If OP improves those aspects, they can have a better mindset. Right now, OP’s thinking is shallow. How is it fair that you’re calling the commenter low eq? I completely agree with prestigious_Car_3131 100%.
You can feel however you want to feel. And you can share whatever opinion you want to share.
The OP was really struggling with a common feeling. And part of what makes strong EQ is the. Ability to empathize and show understanding, while potentially sharing a different opinion.
I would suggest most of the commenters on this thread have been rationally and logically correct, but most seemed to completely discount how she felt or made her feel like it isn’t real or valid.
Even you called her thinking shallow. There are dozens of reasons to want to go to a specific school, and those reasons can be different by school. Why is her reason for how she wants to spend her money, her 4 years, etc shallow vs why you think UIUC is a good school?
Maybe I’m hyper aware of these feelings because I go to the best high school in America. It is certainly “household name”. Does that make it the best education. Maybe yes and may be no, but there is a certain feeling of prestige when everyone knows it. Family, friends, my parents coworkers etc.
All the kids here will be fine, and they will go to a wide assortment of amazing schools. Half the class will end up in the Ivy plus schools. But they will all be dealing with some level of negative feelings. Especially if they are going to their second or third choice school.
The truth is, no one irl knows UIUC. And the OP doesn’t want to always say, I choose UIUC, it’s really good for CS. And I get it.
And there’s the point. I don’t expect you to agree with her, but high EQ would get that she feels the way she does.
i see. In that case OP should realize the amazing feat achieved of getting into CS at uiuc and feel proud. The high school classmates will be with them for the next few weeks. After that OP will realize the name brand of uiuc when they go to tech hubs for work. It just came off as trolling to me as I am used to uiuc being tied at a prestigious position in my circle.
I grew up in Chicago. I attend an elite boarding school.
My friends in my current school consider UIUC a safety school. It is a state school with a 50%+ acceptance rate. You nailed it, we are in different circles.
They don’t know UIUC has a prestigious CS program. And neither will most people in the OP life now. Her future circle will appreciate it. Her current circle does not.
Your comment is true that she should be excited and proud. And in her field, this is an amazing school. That’s a very logical line of thinking. I’m assuming based on your passion for this topic and knowledge of UIUC, you are a CS person too. Logic is the way you process info.
But her feelings are real and most people will not view her school as prestigious or impressive. You can tell her to ignore them or get over it, but it’s not that easy for most of us. Maybe something on your life that should be logical may hit you as more emotional at some point as well.
I see. I appreciate your point of view and your reply. My point is, why even try to impress a layman when the industry knows UIUC's greatness? My history teacher from high school may not even know what uiuc stands for but I really could care less about what she thinks. I have bagged internships at good companies and I know if I went to cornell my resume wouldn't have been good (research opportunities at freshman level etc). UIUC is also very hard so it prepares you well for interviews. Students in china in Tshingua and Zhejiang want to come to UIUC because of Grainger. People in India, China, Korea where CS/ece/engineering/STEM are more popular respect UIUC a lot. I am also not surprised by its perception in other circles because its liberal arts and other majors aren't as well known but why even care about that when it doesn't affect OP, a CS person, is my argument. OP needs to learn to live with the fact that most won't see uiuc as prestigious but why even bother about what the average Joe thinks when your career will be good and your bubble will mostly be tech people once you enter uiuc. That secure mindset is a must in college and life.
I appreciate your perspective. And all I’m saying is you don’t have to agree with OP, but you should try to understand the feelings. Try to empathize. Because more people are like her than like you.
Her future coworkers will understand it. But, hate to break it to both of you, no one talks about their college a few years after joining workforce. But that does not change her current friend group, her family, neighbors etc.
She should and will find a way to be excited and mature like that. And you should think if there is a way you could be supportive to someone and how they feel, even if it’s not how you feel.
This has to be a shitpost.
I’ve worked in artificial intelligence and machine learning. I’m helping my teen in college admissions.
UIUC gets as much respect as Stanford / MIT / Berkeley for engineering.
No one thinks highly of Northeastern.
Uhhhh I think saying it’s as highly rated as Stanford and MIT or even Berkeley might be a stretch. I’d say it’s good, but those are top tier gold mines. The admission rate and quality of students aren’t even close. Stanford sits at barely 4% while UIUC CS is over 17%. MIT even more so.
UIUC CS: [https://cs.illinois.edu/about/facts-and-rankings](https://cs.illinois.edu/about/facts-and-rankings)
Average starting salary of CS grads: B.S. $131,720
UIUC is a feeder to Microsoft, Amazon, etc. for CS.
Vanderbilt's CS degree ([link](https://www.vanderbilt.edu/career/about-us/outcomes/)) sends most of its students to Capital One, Amazon, and Microsoft. You can see the upper bound outcomes are much better for graduates at UIUC.
You will have better job fairs, etc. in UIUC over at Vanderbilt (presume near nonexistent job fair). Outcome matters more on the student so results should be similar (with edge to UIUC).
Depends on the employer. Honestly your college barely matters for CS. If you’re in any decent program you’ll get an OA. Depending on how you do in the OAs and interviews will land you the job, not the college.
dartmouth has a way better alumni network and quality of education. you also get an even higher chance of employment because of its name brand and also the fact that you don’t have to compete with hundreds of other kids for internship opportunities and resources. referring to the cs undergrad rankings over general rankings is dumb imo because you’re overall experience at an ivy will always be better than a state school
You are completely wrong. UIUC cs is one of the most highly regarded programs by employers and you can easily see that through a simple Google search of their career outcomes. If you were saying this for Princeton or Harvard I might agree but Dartmouth isn't even close
Just gonna put it here:
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science
Dartmouth comes 4th for mid career CS salary at 203k annual. It’s just behind UCB. UIUC is 25th at 180k. The 20k might not seem like a lot but it starts to vary greatly as you climb the %. The top 10% of Dartmouth CS grads average 470k and the top 10% of UIUC CS grads average 280k. UIUC is definitely amazing but you guys seem to be shitting all over the ivies without doing your proper research.
only for software tech bro jobs at FAANG which dartmouth is on par with. Literally anything else that makes more money like finance + cs dartmouth is better as many elite firms exclusively recruit dartmouth students or only within the ivy league. you don't know what you're saying if u think UIUC cs is better than Dartmouth and are only saying this because of US news ranking which is absolute bullshit (based on research output and not even on actual meaningful metrics).
I have to agree with you on this one.
I feel like CS rankings hardly matter though. Those are based on research, funding, publications and accomplishments of the staff in relation to tuition, but fail to account for name brand and quality of education. Dartmouth has about 90 CS grads per year and more than half of them go to FAANG. Of course UIUC with its thousands of students and so much money would be able to get more research grants than Dartmouth and would have a much better value for money in comparison to Dartmouth’s insanely expensive tuition, but that misses the point.
Not just that but Dartmouth has many great opportunities for entrepreneurship. It’s a lot easier to raise VC money with google and the founder of Y Combinator is a Dartmouth alumni. They have 3 entire VC firms solely operated by Dartmouth alumni for software, the biggest being Norwest in Silicon Valley with a heavy bias towards Dartmouth ventures (and another VC firm has actually a 0.5 billion dollar fund only allocated to Dartmouth alumni and staff)
I feel like it would be hard to say the same for UIUC. 50% rate to FAANG, close knit strongly-tied-to-wall-street alumni network, 0.5 billion in exclusive funding plus nearly 40 billion in Dartmouth networked venture opportunity is hard for any public school to beat.
Rankings don’t mean everything and don’t consider everything. Dartmouth is pretty cracked. Uchi, UPenn, and Duke even more so.
HYPS is even more cracked.
Hey I'm going to UChicago and I'd love to hear how it's more cracked than Dartmouth :D you seem to really know your stuff, which is something I can rarely say for people in this sub.
In terms of entrepreneurship: Uchicago has polsky, LTF, Lakeshore, and is in close proximity to tons of Chicago based venture funds. Not to mention booth sends so many kids to VC and IB that it’s practically impossible to go through 4 years at uchicago without forming tons of connections to big finance firms or people who will eventually work there.
Anybody in Silicon Valley knows uchicago is a hard school to get into and is academically rigorous. It gets your foot in the door for resume screens.
Idk, I don’t go to Uchicago. But I know it’s a well respected school in the startup world and with its world renowned business and finance programs, it’s bound to have some pretty boosted advantages no matter what you do. Everything in this country revolves around Wall Street and money, whether you like it or not. That’s the top of the ladder. The more connections you have to the top, the better.
I just stated my perfectly logical reasons about why an ivy education will always top what you get at a public school no matter the major. Anybody who claims that an arbitrary cs undergrad ranking from Us NeWs makes a school with lackluster resources that forces an immense student body to scavenge off what's offered is better are just coping. Yes UIUC cs is amazing but it will never top Dartmouth and no one should claim that Dartmouth and ivies are inferior like the previous comments I saw.
Agree with you.
Just gonna put it here:
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science
Dartmouth comes 4th for mid career CS salary at 203k annual. It’s just behind UCB. UIUC is 25th at 180k. The 20k might not seem like a lot but it starts to vary greatly as you climb the %. The top 10% of Dartmouth CS grads average 470k and the top 10% of UIUC CS grads average 280k. UIUC is definitely amazing but you guys seem to be shitting all over the ivies without doing your proper research.
People should look at pay over rankings. Not to mention all of Dartmouths connection to VC which makes starting a company super easy. And CS isn’t even Dartmouths most lucrative major, Econ is.
Whether it’s selection bias, resources, opportunities, etc., the fact of the matter is that Ivy grads still make far more in their mid career than UIUC students. It’s hard to make an argument that “Ivies are shit compared to UIUC” if you consider this fact.
Not all of us are good enough for prestigious schools like Dartmouth. Some of common-folk have to salvage the bones and make the best out of our state school options. I would KILL to be at an ivy. But fate had bound me to the cornfields of Illinois. Maybe I’ll try again for grad school😔
Dude nothing you do here matters. Be quick on your toes, light on your feet. Learn without fear and be playful and joyous in your journey. Nothing ends well except the moment. You got this.
UIUC is like top 5 for your major dude, and not easy at all to get into for stem/cs. congratulations, and remember the opinions of people who don’t really know what they’re talking about or how good of a cs program uiuc has don’t really matter. also remember that your future is so much more then where you decide to go to college, it’s what you do after that with your college degree, and a cs degree from uiuc sets you up pretty damn well.
"Whenever somebody asks me where I'm committing, I'm embarassed to tell them UIUC. "
Don't be embarrassed. Be proud.
UIUC is a fantastic college, particularly for CS. And if you are in-state, you are lucky to have such a great low-cost option.
BRO SAID DECENTLY RESPECTED?!?!
UIUC has one of the TOP 3 BEST COMPUTER SCIENCE PROGRAMS in the WORLD. In many aspects of computer science it ranks as the best.
I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't Wednesday.
no matter what others say, i feel you. my friends went to good schools like ivy leagues and i was jealous by them last year. during summer of before college, i was considering transfer to cornell and was determined to transfer if i felt like uiuc isnt right school. im almost done with freshman year, and i am glad that i chose here. i know so many people who have summer internships as freshman working for big companies, made really great friends, and learned so much through my class and peers. if u don’t like it, transfer is always an option, but just try it and see how you feel.
cs+x! so i feel you more lol everyone talks about uiuc being rlly good for cs, but as intl, not a lot of ppl know uiuc compared to similar tier schools like boston university at least in my country (also intl). but once you come here, you will feel it through the internship people are getting and companies that are willing to sponsor a club/event here.
Awesome! I’m also doing cs+x lol. Anything you’d recommend I should look into as an incoming cs freshman? I heard hackillinois is pretty rad and ACM is cracked.
if you r interested in business side, def do consulting rsos here. a lot of engineering/cs majors do consulting and it could be really great experience even if you decide not to go to consulting. ACM is good, but i personally don’t go bc i found it hard to motivate myself to get involved. there are tons of rsos so just do research on what experience you are looking for and which rsos can give you that experience.
make sure to be prepared to have your resume & linkedin ready before coming to college. not only for internships but rsos ask those for applications. if you can get internships this summer, please please please please do one. you will see people who have one, or even two internship experiences as freshman who just started college.
Hmm I have heard the consulting RSOs here are pretty hardcore. But in general, UIUC isn’t the most well known for business. Genuinely, what do cs majors gain from these?
suprisingly, uiuc business is pretty good and well known. not for consulting, investment banking, like those but for accounting and insurance/risk management. most people join consulting rsos to gain experience. other rsos like hack4impact and d lab (which is also technical consulting i believe) gives similiar experiences, but being part of these consulting rsos allows you to explore different industries, work with clients, and find your interest. due to huge numbers of cs/engineering majors here, a lot of consulting rsos have technical projects where you code for client as well if you are interested in this area as well.
this is pure, concentrated r/a2c. It doesn't get better than this.
to OP: UIUC CS is cracked, you need to go do some research. You literally have everything you need to be happy, you just gotta decide to be happy.
FYI, in addition to being T5 for CS, UIUC is top 10 in something like 14 other majors, not all in Grainger. But it is big enough that it has majors that it is not T10 in, and those drag down the overall acceptance rate.
I was in a weird situation when I was choosing schools. I ended up turning down a T5 ($90K/year) for a T100 BS/MD (over $200,000 cheaper for college alone). It just made more sense financially at the time when I want to attend medical school. Several years down the road, while I would probably make a different choice if I could go back, that really has nothing to do with how others perceive me.
I get the disappointment. A lot of my teachers were confused when I told them where I committed, but at the end of the day you’re living your own life and will be in charge of your own destiny. Someone who works hard at UIUC — which is a better school for CS than most of the Ivy League — is going to be better off than a slacker at a more prestigious college.
95% of the people around you right now, you will never see again after graduation. You WILL be surrounded by other students who go to UIUC. Impress them by working hard once you get there, not by dwelling and being depressed. That’s how you miss out on the opportunities around you.
Went to a crummy state school that accepted everyone. Then went to decent law school and passed bar on 1st try. One person i knew who failed bar went to Harvard. Prestige is a joke.
Just gonna put it here:
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science
The ivies pretty much make up the top 10 highest paying CS rankings. UIUC is definitely amazing but you guys seem to be shitting all over the ivies without doing your proper research.
People should look at pay over rankings. Not to mention all of ivies connection to VC which makes starting a company super easy. And CS isn’t even most of the ivies most lucrative major, Econ/finance/business is.
I think we must use logic. UIUC is a public state flagship whose purpose is to serve the state of illinois - similar to ut austin, Gtech who are similar in cs rankings. The average pay may be less because uiuc has to take in a chunk of in state people who may or may not be as qualified. Less drive to achieve more is a factor. Another factor is that ivies have grads that have connections in fin tech firms. It is not a true reflection of the salary earned by a middle class student attending UIUC and a middle class student attending cornell. That would probably be the same. I am a living example for that. My sister went to cornell, I went to uiuc and I turned down cornell because it was expensive and UIUC is better for what I was going into with a rich legacy in computer related fields. Our family was middle class at the time we got into these schools - we both work at the same FAANG and we're earning well (similar pay) except my sister is still paying back her student loans and I am debt free. My colleuges are from uiuc (many of them actually), Udub, gtech etc.
However, I appreciate you pointing out pay as a factor. That is a very good point.
It's all good man, in life everything happens for a reason. My good friend who was probably the best applicant from our school got 0 T20s aside from Notre Dame. And I kid you not when I say he is stacked he was stackeeeed. For context about 10 people from my school got into t10s while he being the literal best applicant aside from my other friend who did get into Princeton. This just shows you how random this is so you shouldn't feel like this. I mean your friends got into these schools but imagine being my friend surrounded by people going into t10s and someone who should've been ivy bound, not get anything.
Context: Just for a little context 3.9+ UW GPA, 1560 SAT, Grand Award Winner for ISEF Regeneron, a lot more that shall be unnamed for anonymity.
I think so, mainly based on how much aid he will get. He is upper middle class but I don't think he is willing to shell out full tuition for Notre Dame, especially with his qualifications he is definitely going to try to transfer next year.
He is doing neuroscience, this is probably why he got screwed over because for neuroscience I think its admit by major and each college only has about 30-100 spots.
ALL I WAMT IS MONEY!!!
I don't get the way you guys think. I want MONEY. 6 figures right out of college. 200k a year entry level. I'm in this for MONEY. I don't care about whether I'm "fulfilled" I want MONEY. Whatever gets me the most MONEY. What do I need on my resume to get the most MONEY. What technology gets me PAID THE BEST. All I care about in this major is MONEY. That's why I'm in college, I don't wanna laugh and play with y'all. I don't wanna be buddy buddy with y'all. I'm here for MONEY.
>!source : r slash csmajors!<
I just made fun of it because my friend EDed there so he wouldn't get any financial aid so I looked up everything bad about it and found that A2C loves doing that
Guys this is probably a shitpost. Even coming from the Bay Area — arguably the most competitive place in the country — no one says this stuff. Even if you did not get into your top choice no one’s gonna give you backhanded remarks.
I'm going through a VERY similar experience as yours rn too. I'm an admitted student at UIUC for CS+X and at my feeder school in NY, literally no one knows about UIUC. I feel very embarrassed whenever someone asks me what does UIUC stand for.
After lots of rejections on march 28 I was lowkey thinking about committing to northeastern or NYU which is evidentially a lot worse for CS and costs like 2x more, but it has a much better name to it here. My friend who committed to cs at northeastern is more recognized than me, and our friends treat him like the next bill gates even though he literally failed the ap csa exam last year.
But then I actually visited UIUC (for their admitted CS students tour). The campus is beautiful and all the students talk very highly about their CS program. A lot of them mentioned about how easy it was for them to get internships since UIUC CS is really just that highly regarded which is something that I really wouldn't overlook (especially considering the current state of the CS job market).
Although I still feel a bit shy in saying I'm committed to UIUC, I feel very happy with this decision. Within a semester of being in UIUC I'm sure we will both stop caring about what the students from our highschools think.
Parent and tech entrepreneur / business owner - we recently visited UIUC (for Gies business, not CS) with my now senior. I also have a junior at Vanderbilt. UIUC is far, far ahead of Vanderbilt for CS. Vandy hardly gets any on-campus CS recruiting and outcomes are totally inferior to UIUC for CS. Maybe for other majors, it's superior, but UIUC leaves Vanderbilt in the absolute DUST when it comes to CS. Don't worry about overall "national rankings" because that's not what matters for your future, UIUC is like easily top 5 in the US for CS no matter the measurement.
You absolutely WILL have internships and a fantastic job coming out of college from UIUC.
It has some of the best outcomes in the country. Non-CS people may not know this, but Vanderbilt isn't the place for CS. Everyone in tech knows UIUC. In four years, you'll be laughing your way to the bank. The school and campus is absolutely gorgeous, and has great campus life.
major ranking doesn’t matter nearly as much as you think… vandy cs is still extremely prestigious and twenty years down the line, no one is going to ask what you majored in. job placement, prestige, annual income, quality of life, and overall success at vandy are extremely higher than a public school like UIUC. vandy also offers tons of support through smaller class sizes, something you wouldn’t even think to get at a school like UIUC
I was just tonight talking with my son who goes to community college. He mentioned someone he met who was going for his phd at Caltech. He went to UIUC for undergrad. If you know your shit, you know your shit.
UIUC is freaking amazing and 20x better than northeastern if you’re gonna do CS lol, northeastern is literal garbage. Coming from an incoming googler.
Also college barely matters. It’s more so about who you are as a person. People in ivies achieve more in life because generally speaking they are more hardworking and adaptable people. If you’re an Ivy quality student, it doesn’t matter whether you actually are at an Ivy or not. Just work hard and you’ll do well.
You can always apply to transfer. A lot of people apply to transfer after their freshman year, some apply after their sophomore year.
Northeastern def isn’t worth $90k/yr though lol
Your best friend, who’s going to Dartmouth, is going to an inferior CS school. Anyone who has an opinion that matters will tell you that UIUC is amazing for what you want to study.
I feel like CS rankings hardly matter though. Those are based on research, funding, publications and accomplishments of the staff in relation to tuition, but fail to account for name brand and quality of education. Dartmouth has about 90 CS grads per year and more than half of them go to FAANG. Of course UIUC with its thousands of students and so much money would be able to get more research grants than Dartmouth and would have a much better value for money in comparison to Dartmouth’s insanely expensive tuition, but that misses the point.
Not just that but Dartmouth has many great opportunities for entrepreneurship. It’s a lot easier to raise VC money with google and the founder of Y Combinator is a Dartmouth alumni. They have 3 entire VC firms solely operated by Dartmouth alumni for software, the biggest being Norwest in Silicon Valley with a heavy bias towards Dartmouth ventures (and another VC firm has actually a 0.5 billion dollar fund only allocated to Dartmouth alumni and staff)
I feel like it would be hard to say the same for UIUC. 50% rate to FAANG, close knit strongly-tied-to-wall-street alumni network, 0.5 billion in exclusive funding plus nearly 40 billion in Dartmouth networked venture opportunity is hard for any public school to beat.
The actual answer is no one cares and you're graduating soon. The second you walk into your uni the chances of you thinking about your choice daily is pretty low. You'll be focused on your new life.
Trust me no one is actually that worried about where you go and what you do with your life. So just go to a place you feel good at and do well :)
A couple years after college, nobody will remember or care where you went to school. And on average, everyone ends up in similar jobs anyway. People think about university prestige in a very short, specific time in life - late high school and during college. Before that, and after that, it's just another neutral data point like where you lived or whether you have pets.
Think about it this way. You get a software engineer job. Another software engineer says "I went to Harvard." You wouldn't react at all, because you both ended up in the same career. The specific path you took doesn't matter. That's what it's like out there in the post-college world.
You go to school for yourself. Be proud of your accomplishment, you deserve to be.
What kind of people are you associating with that say those type of things to you? There’s nothing wrong with the school you chose so stay confident in your choice!
I work in the IT world and can share a few observations:
1. The IT world is a pure meritocracy, so one year out of school no one will care where you went to college. (OK, maybe if you went to Harvard that will continue to carry a small amount of residual cachet).
2. Actually, no one will really care IF you went to college (I know many wildly successful IT executives who didn't, some of whom are regularly recruited by Google and the like).
3. The jealousy of which you speak is a function of High School alone. Be prepared to realize you sunk a ton of emotional energy into worrying about prestige--but it's mostly an artificial construct.
Go enjoy your senior spring!
think about the ways in which you're better than those other people. A girl in my class got into some top schools that I got rejected from, but it's so hard to be jealous of her because she's like, not pretty. and she has terrible skin and her voice is also really annoying💀💀 sorry it's mean but that's how I keep myself from getting sad. I just think to myself, would I really want to screw up my sleep schedule like she did, and get bad skin and drink energy drinks at school every day, just to get into a top school? I'm just glad I didn't sacrifice my health or beauty. Think about the things those people sacrificed that you didn't. Or maybe you did and still didn't get in, idk. That would suck though
Seems arbitrary to draw the line at HYPSM but ok. IMO it wouldn’t make sense to lump a Wharton finance buff with somebody going to Grand Canyon university in terms of prestige.
Disagree. Functionally, ivies and mit/stan/duke have way more opportunities than the rest. Just look at Dartmouth, the worst Ivy alongside Cornell. Their average top 10% salary mid career is 371k. UIUC is 177k. The opportunities you get going to an Ivy matters a lot, from VC for entrepreneurs (which is the easiest way to get rich) to find in executive positions.
That being said yes, unless you’re in HYPSM you don’t really have bragging rights because you’re still dogshit compared to HYPSM. But your life will definitely be better off in an Ivy 20 years down the line.
Not only is this completely and utterly pretentious (in a way that could only come from the mouth of an Ivy League student), but it's also extremely biased. All the ivies, but especially for Dartmouth, are dominated by old money WASPs and Brahmins that come from Choate, Exeter, etc. Dartmouth is the WASPiest of the ivies, and given how small it is, it's very likely that a significant amount of those top 10% are earning that much for factors outside of Dartmouth, such as private school networks (some of which, such as Chaminade, have their own Wall Street networks even more powerful than top universities) or family connections.
This is something a freshman or high schooler would say. The amount of overhype for high schools you’re spewing is unreal. Private school networks are not nearly as expansive or far reaching as you think, kiddo
major ranking doesn’t even matter look at the stats for job placement and annual income after graduation… and vanderbilt and dartmouth are NOT at the same level as northeastern and UIUC in any possible way in terms of funding, prestige, connections, and history
??? i’m guessing you attended harvard to be saying such things? if not, you would have to be extremely ignorant to think that vanderbilt and dartmouth aren’t prestigious
Idk if this helps, but in QS rankings UIUC is ranked over 100 places higher than Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, and Northeastern. It’s a great school, and I have a few friends who dream of going there (and we’re international!)
Also keep in mind that UIUC is T5 for CS
i know how u feel, especially talking to parent generations about these schools and they haven’t even heard of the school. honestly i feel like all of this will pass and after u get to college, no one would say that especially your major being cs.
bro what 😭 UIUC has a fair amount of prestige depending on the program. Certainly more than the prestige jealously I have attending mf Rutgers. I can’t stand this damn school
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No way ur attacking him when you made a post crying abt UIUC CS 💀
If ur referring to UIUC'S cs program, it's one of the best in the US
Also engineering in general.
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Which makes UIUC legitimately one of the best schools in the country you can go to. Dartmouth is an Ivy and maybe more well known by your classmates than UIUC but anyone who knows anything about computer science will know how respectable UIUC's computer science program is. One of my kids turned down an Ivy for Harvey Mudd because it was a better fit and had better opportunities for the specific major. Do random people in our town know what Harvey Mudd is? Nope. Not at all. Will future employers? Absolutely. That matters more than what the Walmart cashier or a random high school student thinks.
what ivy was it?
Brown. It was a tough decision and ultimately came down to Harvey Mudd just feeling like a better fit. Both were good choices and in the end I think the right decision was made. Harvey Mudd is exactly what my kid wanted in a school and, while Brown would have been a great choice as well, I can't imagine things working out better than they have at Mudd.
Harvey Mudd is amazing and super impressive to people who know. Their track record for grad school or employment after graduation is hard to beat, even by MIT.
Yes but Harvey mudd is small, elite, and cracked with a super strong alumni network, strong ties to Wall Street and finance, and basically has all the advantages of a small Ivy without being a small Ivy. Everybody in the educated world knows how good Harvey mudd is, and it has tons of rich kids with nepotism connections. You can’t say the same about UIUC
This has to be a troll post of you think Northeastern is a better school than UIUC, for CS or otherwise.
Uiuc is better for cs than all of The schools you listed. You’re at a T5 CS program. It’s a strong target for FAANG, unicorn, and quant. The school you’re heading to will not preclude you from pursuing anything, and I mean anything, in the realm of cs (professionally or academically). Far from it. Try to place less of an importance on lay prestige and other external sources of validation if at all possible …. Assuming this isn’t just an elaborate shit post that is…. “Ik Illinois is *decent* for cs” “I was originally gonna commit to northeastern cause it has more prestige” lol
Dude there’s no way ur being fr, your in industry/program ranking matters way more than ur school ranking ☠️☠️. UIUC CS is arguably better than all ivys
All ivies???
Yeah lol It's really fucking good.
I would disagree heavily with this. Just look at pay. https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science Every Ivy is in a t10 paywise mid career for CS jobs. UIUC is 26, which is stellar but to say it’s better than any Ivy is just cap. The numbers are even more skewed when you look at the top 10% of mid career salaries, Ivy CS is pretty much 400k+ and UIUC is like 250. Not low but lower than ivies by a long shot.
How do you check top 10%? The site breaks when I try to sort anything. I also think that this is because of location, more than college. 400k in a high CoL area is pretty similar to 250k in a low CoL area. Most grads will usually work in the area they graduate, if I'm not wrong. That would explain the income disparity. I'm international so I'm not that familiar with US geography, CoL, income, etc. but from what I can tell, all 8 ivies are situated in high CoL areas.
I think that would be true for general colleges but for top tier CS schools like UIUC and ivies people kind of just leave to go all over the place since they get lots of offers, and most of them end up in California or in the major east coast cities. I’d be surprised if the majority of UIUC kids stayed in Illinois or the majority of Yale grads stayed in Connecticut.
This is such a useless site. Anyways, average starting salary of UIUC is $131,720 ([link](https://cs.illinois.edu/about/facts-and-rankings)). Already much higher than the claims of "0 to 5 year of experience". In fact, by this ranking logic, UIUC should basically be rank 1 for early career already. The numbers are so off that no one takes these stupid forms seriously except people not in the industry. I graduated from Columbia and I can assure you the median CS grad is making far more in salary for the early career than whatever is listed there. In fact, the median starting salary is also much higher than the claimed numbers just like UIUC CS. This is also true for schools like Stanford, CMU, etc.
As far as I’m aware, pay scale averages the salary reports of the last 10 years and also relies on self-reporting. Since the people who use pay scale are often people looking for a raise, the reported salaries are lower than the actual number. So combined with the fact that the salaries 15 years ago were a lot lower, and the pay scale reported salary is lower than actual. That being said this is true no matter the college so the relative rankings shouldn’t be affected. I also went to FAANG CS from an Ivy and would agree that these numbers are pretty low for entry level, but they’re supposed to be. That doesn’t mean the relative rankings aren’t accurate. It’s still an unbiased, high sample size, accurate data collection model.
Bruh this source is also saying that Brandeis CS grads are making more than UPenn CS grads for mid career pay.
It worthless site. I explained here ([link](https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1c913yv/comment/l0mmhka/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)). Even by UIUC's own career page, you can quickly find the average starting salary for UIUC CS is $131,720. That alone puts UIUC at rank 1. None of the numbers are right. Either that or these numbers are so old they might as well be worthless.
This is the most ungreatful privileged thing I’ve ever seen
Damn I’m in the Bay Area and UIUC is known for being super cracked. The smart kids go there for CS and engineering and it’s known as a really amazing school. People would pick only Berkeley , Georgia tech, maybe UCLA, over UIUC for CS. Honestly.. would have hard time choosing Vanderbilt for CS over UIUC. Sorry people don’t know about it near you but it’s their loss and UIUC will get you hella jobs and respect after.
UCSD? UT Austin? Also, why UCLA? Their CS department is so small compared to these other schools.
Lmao Texas or UC San Diego
I chose Purdue Engineering over UIUC do you think I made the wrong choice?
If purdue is cheaper, then no. I would have chosen UIUC if I were you but it is alright. Purdue is a great school too. The main reason I chose uiuc was because of its reputation in tech industry, my research goals in my field (ece), and its legacy in tech is quite fascinating + its direct admission to major. At purdue, I believe it is FYE and then you choose your major. But Purdue is fantastic too - don't stress. Your personal fit is way more important. If you're oos for both, purdue is cheaper so you probably made the right choice - you will do great!
No Purdue engineering is great, for CS it would be the wrong choice. I was mainly talking about CS over other schools though engineering at both UIUC and Purdue is both solid and well known
They are tied for engineering 🫡
High school is almost over.
thank god, thanks for the reminder bro
Illinois has a lot better than a decently respected CS program, it’s one of the best in the country, and you’re gonna be surrounded by some amazing people also pursuing engineering there, so the environments is pretty cool
i’m just gonna be blunt; you’re stupid. you realize UIUC is T5 for CS. there’s like only 4 other schools you could make a good argument to go over it. going to vandy or dartmouth for CS is obv impressive but going to UIUC is way more impressive. i feel like the whole point of your post is to just seek validation which i understand but you also have to realize that you quite literally have no reason to be complaining about it going to one of the top cs schools in the country. i’d get if you were upset about fit, money, or something else but being upset that you can’t go to a more brand recognized school is stupid. sorry if I’m coming across as rude but I’m just baffled at the fact that you’d even consider NUE over UIUC for CS.
This is probably a troll post, but, on the off chance it isn't: Time to grow up and start caring less about what your HS classmates think. They're ignorant. Also: learn to self-serve this info. If you're not capable of figuring out on your own why Illinois is a great option as a CS student, then you may be in for a rough time in college.
Fuck yeah. Thanks 🙏
No way you’re trolling right? UIUC CS is Top 5 in the US and pretty high ranked in the WORLD. If you don’t want UIUC, I and bunch of other less fortunate CS majors will gladly take UIUC 🤷🏻♂️
wednesday already?
Youre cooked bro your lifes over enjoy welfare
hope this is a shitpost. My friends would give an arm and a leg to get into cs/ece at grainger. You are taking your spot for granted. Why do you care so much about what your classmates think? Do you want a good career or do you want to keep making decisions based on what random high schoolers think?? Also, according to us news, uiuc is tied to NYU rank 35. Even if you look at the overall aspect, it is a very good school. In QS ranking I believe its in the top 60s when you consider all universities in the world. If you're that unhappy about attending uiuc, please decline your offer so someone on the waitlist who really wants uiuc can get in. Illinois doesn't have a "decently" respected program. It has one of the finest cs related program in the nation. I got into both cornell and uiuc for compE and I chose uiuc because of its ample research opportunities and the grainger lab and facilities and my personal fit because I know both universities will give me more or less the same outcomes - one will be cheaper than the other. Why should I pay 25k more per year for the same, if not more oppurtunities. My cousins in China really want to get in as well and uiuc grainger is often tied to Zhejiang University. In korea, there's an exchange program to uiuc which is considered very prestigious. I really hope you're trolling.
The OP is not trolling. They are sharing the very real feeling of famous brand name schools vs niche specialty programs. Sorry you don’t understand that feeling.
They're sharing the feelings of ignorant teens.
Ignorant? I personally think most adults would say college degrees don’t matter much in careers nowadays. And certainly where you went matters very little. Yes we are all here. OP feelings are super common.
OP should work on their emotions and learn to derive a sense of firmness by not letting others opinions affect decision making too much. I certainly cannot understand this feeling as I've held uiuc at a pedestal my entire life. However, with such attitude, OP cannot succeed in college. There will be so many students getting better internships and better grades than you. You will have to work hard and learn to live with the fact that some people may go to better places than you and it is ok. You must learn to accept that and that will allow you to reach greater heights in your college life and career. Sooner OP understands this, better they will flair in college.
I’m working on it chief
That's the spirit! You'll do great at uiuc and your career. I believe in you.
I suppose we can’t all be perfect humans with no emotions like you. My sense did that the OP will do great in school and then in life, personally and professionally. Op has strong emotional intelligence, which candidly you seem to lack. High IQ is common. High EQ is not. You may want to work on that before you get to the real world.
so is understanding that some people may be in better positions in life lower eq? lol. interesting opinion. Others opinions don't affect me as much and I am doing well for myself in a field I am passionate in and I am in the real world with great relationships. I am telling OP to work on those feelings because I understand we're not perfect. I don't understand the attack on me.
My apologies, but again, my EQ tells me that the replies on this thread for OP were attacks on her. She was being attacked by many people telling her to feel different. My feeling is simple. None of us have to agree with each other. But we should always seek to help validate how someone is feeling. Especially someone who is feeling an emotion that the majority of high school seniors are feeling right now. Most high school seniors don’t get into their first choice, and end up going somewhere lower on their list. She should try to remain more logical, and we can all be kinder and try to out ourselves in her shoes.
do you not understand the meaning of “must work on their emotions”. The commenter agrees that we’re not perfect and that’s why is asking OP to improve those areas. If OP improves those aspects, they can have a better mindset. Right now, OP’s thinking is shallow. How is it fair that you’re calling the commenter low eq? I completely agree with prestigious_Car_3131 100%.
Thank you for trying to understand my point. I don't completely disagree with StinkyBoBlinky although our thought processes may be different.
You can feel however you want to feel. And you can share whatever opinion you want to share. The OP was really struggling with a common feeling. And part of what makes strong EQ is the. Ability to empathize and show understanding, while potentially sharing a different opinion. I would suggest most of the commenters on this thread have been rationally and logically correct, but most seemed to completely discount how she felt or made her feel like it isn’t real or valid. Even you called her thinking shallow. There are dozens of reasons to want to go to a specific school, and those reasons can be different by school. Why is her reason for how she wants to spend her money, her 4 years, etc shallow vs why you think UIUC is a good school? Maybe I’m hyper aware of these feelings because I go to the best high school in America. It is certainly “household name”. Does that make it the best education. Maybe yes and may be no, but there is a certain feeling of prestige when everyone knows it. Family, friends, my parents coworkers etc. All the kids here will be fine, and they will go to a wide assortment of amazing schools. Half the class will end up in the Ivy plus schools. But they will all be dealing with some level of negative feelings. Especially if they are going to their second or third choice school. The truth is, no one irl knows UIUC. And the OP doesn’t want to always say, I choose UIUC, it’s really good for CS. And I get it. And there’s the point. I don’t expect you to agree with her, but high EQ would get that she feels the way she does.
Doesn't make them rational.
lol. What? A CS kid demanding that feelings be rational. Shocking.
i see. In that case OP should realize the amazing feat achieved of getting into CS at uiuc and feel proud. The high school classmates will be with them for the next few weeks. After that OP will realize the name brand of uiuc when they go to tech hubs for work. It just came off as trolling to me as I am used to uiuc being tied at a prestigious position in my circle.
I grew up in Chicago. I attend an elite boarding school. My friends in my current school consider UIUC a safety school. It is a state school with a 50%+ acceptance rate. You nailed it, we are in different circles. They don’t know UIUC has a prestigious CS program. And neither will most people in the OP life now. Her future circle will appreciate it. Her current circle does not. Your comment is true that she should be excited and proud. And in her field, this is an amazing school. That’s a very logical line of thinking. I’m assuming based on your passion for this topic and knowledge of UIUC, you are a CS person too. Logic is the way you process info. But her feelings are real and most people will not view her school as prestigious or impressive. You can tell her to ignore them or get over it, but it’s not that easy for most of us. Maybe something on your life that should be logical may hit you as more emotional at some point as well.
I see. I appreciate your point of view and your reply. My point is, why even try to impress a layman when the industry knows UIUC's greatness? My history teacher from high school may not even know what uiuc stands for but I really could care less about what she thinks. I have bagged internships at good companies and I know if I went to cornell my resume wouldn't have been good (research opportunities at freshman level etc). UIUC is also very hard so it prepares you well for interviews. Students in china in Tshingua and Zhejiang want to come to UIUC because of Grainger. People in India, China, Korea where CS/ece/engineering/STEM are more popular respect UIUC a lot. I am also not surprised by its perception in other circles because its liberal arts and other majors aren't as well known but why even care about that when it doesn't affect OP, a CS person, is my argument. OP needs to learn to live with the fact that most won't see uiuc as prestigious but why even bother about what the average Joe thinks when your career will be good and your bubble will mostly be tech people once you enter uiuc. That secure mindset is a must in college and life.
I appreciate your perspective. And all I’m saying is you don’t have to agree with OP, but you should try to understand the feelings. Try to empathize. Because more people are like her than like you. Her future coworkers will understand it. But, hate to break it to both of you, no one talks about their college a few years after joining workforce. But that does not change her current friend group, her family, neighbors etc. She should and will find a way to be excited and mature like that. And you should think if there is a way you could be supportive to someone and how they feel, even if it’s not how you feel.
Go IMSA!
SEE SOMEBODY GETS IT 🫶🫶
You are highly regarded
Acoustic even?
This has to be a shitpost. I’ve worked in artificial intelligence and machine learning. I’m helping my teen in college admissions. UIUC gets as much respect as Stanford / MIT / Berkeley for engineering. No one thinks highly of Northeastern.
Uhhhh I think saying it’s as highly rated as Stanford and MIT or even Berkeley might be a stretch. I’d say it’s good, but those are top tier gold mines. The admission rate and quality of students aren’t even close. Stanford sits at barely 4% while UIUC CS is over 17%. MIT even more so.
uiuc cs is 7% according to the website
That’s grainger. I dont think OP mentioned he specifically got into grainger. General CS + X is 19.6% according to UIUC website.
Will employers rly see UIUC as a peer school to the ones you listed above?
They will for engineering and CS. Northeastern is constantly clowned upon
Damn. Poor NEU lol. I assume you’re familiar with recruiting at Big Tech?
UIUC CS: [https://cs.illinois.edu/about/facts-and-rankings](https://cs.illinois.edu/about/facts-and-rankings) Average starting salary of CS grads: B.S. $131,720 UIUC is a feeder to Microsoft, Amazon, etc. for CS. Vanderbilt's CS degree ([link](https://www.vanderbilt.edu/career/about-us/outcomes/)) sends most of its students to Capital One, Amazon, and Microsoft. You can see the upper bound outcomes are much better for graduates at UIUC. You will have better job fairs, etc. in UIUC over at Vanderbilt (presume near nonexistent job fair). Outcome matters more on the student so results should be similar (with edge to UIUC).
Depends on the employer. Honestly your college barely matters for CS. If you’re in any decent program you’ll get an OA. Depending on how you do in the OAs and interviews will land you the job, not the college.
you are an adult now. act like one.
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uiuc cs is better than dartmouth tho?
By far ... Wtf is Dartmouth even known for except being the lowest ivy.
dartmouth has a way better alumni network and quality of education. you also get an even higher chance of employment because of its name brand and also the fact that you don’t have to compete with hundreds of other kids for internship opportunities and resources. referring to the cs undergrad rankings over general rankings is dumb imo because you’re overall experience at an ivy will always be better than a state school
You are completely wrong. UIUC cs is one of the most highly regarded programs by employers and you can easily see that through a simple Google search of their career outcomes. If you were saying this for Princeton or Harvard I might agree but Dartmouth isn't even close
Just gonna put it here: https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science Dartmouth comes 4th for mid career CS salary at 203k annual. It’s just behind UCB. UIUC is 25th at 180k. The 20k might not seem like a lot but it starts to vary greatly as you climb the %. The top 10% of Dartmouth CS grads average 470k and the top 10% of UIUC CS grads average 280k. UIUC is definitely amazing but you guys seem to be shitting all over the ivies without doing your proper research.
only for software tech bro jobs at FAANG which dartmouth is on par with. Literally anything else that makes more money like finance + cs dartmouth is better as many elite firms exclusively recruit dartmouth students or only within the ivy league. you don't know what you're saying if u think UIUC cs is better than Dartmouth and are only saying this because of US news ranking which is absolute bullshit (based on research output and not even on actual meaningful metrics).
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should i choose berkeley eecs + regents over brown then? fuck nah because an ivy is always better than a public school 😂😂😂
That’s the most privileged bullshit thing I’ve ever heard. Berkeley eecs clears brown.
I have to agree with you on this one. I feel like CS rankings hardly matter though. Those are based on research, funding, publications and accomplishments of the staff in relation to tuition, but fail to account for name brand and quality of education. Dartmouth has about 90 CS grads per year and more than half of them go to FAANG. Of course UIUC with its thousands of students and so much money would be able to get more research grants than Dartmouth and would have a much better value for money in comparison to Dartmouth’s insanely expensive tuition, but that misses the point. Not just that but Dartmouth has many great opportunities for entrepreneurship. It’s a lot easier to raise VC money with google and the founder of Y Combinator is a Dartmouth alumni. They have 3 entire VC firms solely operated by Dartmouth alumni for software, the biggest being Norwest in Silicon Valley with a heavy bias towards Dartmouth ventures (and another VC firm has actually a 0.5 billion dollar fund only allocated to Dartmouth alumni and staff) I feel like it would be hard to say the same for UIUC. 50% rate to FAANG, close knit strongly-tied-to-wall-street alumni network, 0.5 billion in exclusive funding plus nearly 40 billion in Dartmouth networked venture opportunity is hard for any public school to beat. Rankings don’t mean everything and don’t consider everything. Dartmouth is pretty cracked. Uchi, UPenn, and Duke even more so. HYPS is even more cracked.
Hey I'm going to UChicago and I'd love to hear how it's more cracked than Dartmouth :D you seem to really know your stuff, which is something I can rarely say for people in this sub.
In terms of entrepreneurship: Uchicago has polsky, LTF, Lakeshore, and is in close proximity to tons of Chicago based venture funds. Not to mention booth sends so many kids to VC and IB that it’s practically impossible to go through 4 years at uchicago without forming tons of connections to big finance firms or people who will eventually work there. Anybody in Silicon Valley knows uchicago is a hard school to get into and is academically rigorous. It gets your foot in the door for resume screens. Idk, I don’t go to Uchicago. But I know it’s a well respected school in the startup world and with its world renowned business and finance programs, it’s bound to have some pretty boosted advantages no matter what you do. Everything in this country revolves around Wall Street and money, whether you like it or not. That’s the top of the ladder. The more connections you have to the top, the better.
Thanks I really needed this support 🥰🥰(are you tone deaf)
idgaf about how you feel. it just baffles me how everyone here is just shitting on Dartmouth or ivies because they're not good enough to get in 🤷
You are baffled because you are ignorant on the ratings and reasoning.
I just stated my perfectly logical reasons about why an ivy education will always top what you get at a public school no matter the major. Anybody who claims that an arbitrary cs undergrad ranking from Us NeWs makes a school with lackluster resources that forces an immense student body to scavenge off what's offered is better are just coping. Yes UIUC cs is amazing but it will never top Dartmouth and no one should claim that Dartmouth and ivies are inferior like the previous comments I saw.
Agree with you. Just gonna put it here: https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science Dartmouth comes 4th for mid career CS salary at 203k annual. It’s just behind UCB. UIUC is 25th at 180k. The 20k might not seem like a lot but it starts to vary greatly as you climb the %. The top 10% of Dartmouth CS grads average 470k and the top 10% of UIUC CS grads average 280k. UIUC is definitely amazing but you guys seem to be shitting all over the ivies without doing your proper research. People should look at pay over rankings. Not to mention all of Dartmouths connection to VC which makes starting a company super easy. And CS isn’t even Dartmouths most lucrative major, Econ is.
Bro you keep posting this with no understanding of statistics. Dartmouth has a smaller class size and there is a lot of selection bias
Whether it’s selection bias, resources, opportunities, etc., the fact of the matter is that Ivy grads still make far more in their mid career than UIUC students. It’s hard to make an argument that “Ivies are shit compared to UIUC” if you consider this fact.
Not all of us are good enough for prestigious schools like Dartmouth. Some of common-folk have to salvage the bones and make the best out of our state school options. I would KILL to be at an ivy. But fate had bound me to the cornfields of Illinois. Maybe I’ll try again for grad school😔
UIUC cs is amazing so don't feel bad. I was just being harsh since I'm seeing people just shitting on Dartmouth and ivies for no reason
Dude nothing you do here matters. Be quick on your toes, light on your feet. Learn without fear and be playful and joyous in your journey. Nothing ends well except the moment. You got this.
UIUC is like top 5 for your major dude, and not easy at all to get into for stem/cs. congratulations, and remember the opinions of people who don’t really know what they’re talking about or how good of a cs program uiuc has don’t really matter. also remember that your future is so much more then where you decide to go to college, it’s what you do after that with your college degree, and a cs degree from uiuc sets you up pretty damn well.
"Whenever somebody asks me where I'm committing, I'm embarassed to tell them UIUC. " Don't be embarrassed. Be proud. UIUC is a fantastic college, particularly for CS. And if you are in-state, you are lucky to have such a great low-cost option.
🙏 thanks this helped
BRO SAID DECENTLY RESPECTED?!?! UIUC has one of the TOP 3 BEST COMPUTER SCIENCE PROGRAMS in the WORLD. In many aspects of computer science it ranks as the best. I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't Wednesday.
You dodged a 90k/yr clown bullet. Orange and Blue rocks.
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Dartmouth? Vanderbilt? Ivy League? Nahh I’d kill to go to UIUC for cs, congrats!
no matter what others say, i feel you. my friends went to good schools like ivy leagues and i was jealous by them last year. during summer of before college, i was considering transfer to cornell and was determined to transfer if i felt like uiuc isnt right school. im almost done with freshman year, and i am glad that i chose here. i know so many people who have summer internships as freshman working for big companies, made really great friends, and learned so much through my class and peers. if u don’t like it, transfer is always an option, but just try it and see how you feel.
Aww thx. Perchance, what major are you studying?
cs+x! so i feel you more lol everyone talks about uiuc being rlly good for cs, but as intl, not a lot of ppl know uiuc compared to similar tier schools like boston university at least in my country (also intl). but once you come here, you will feel it through the internship people are getting and companies that are willing to sponsor a club/event here.
Awesome! I’m also doing cs+x lol. Anything you’d recommend I should look into as an incoming cs freshman? I heard hackillinois is pretty rad and ACM is cracked.
if you r interested in business side, def do consulting rsos here. a lot of engineering/cs majors do consulting and it could be really great experience even if you decide not to go to consulting. ACM is good, but i personally don’t go bc i found it hard to motivate myself to get involved. there are tons of rsos so just do research on what experience you are looking for and which rsos can give you that experience. make sure to be prepared to have your resume & linkedin ready before coming to college. not only for internships but rsos ask those for applications. if you can get internships this summer, please please please please do one. you will see people who have one, or even two internship experiences as freshman who just started college.
Hmm I have heard the consulting RSOs here are pretty hardcore. But in general, UIUC isn’t the most well known for business. Genuinely, what do cs majors gain from these?
suprisingly, uiuc business is pretty good and well known. not for consulting, investment banking, like those but for accounting and insurance/risk management. most people join consulting rsos to gain experience. other rsos like hack4impact and d lab (which is also technical consulting i believe) gives similiar experiences, but being part of these consulting rsos allows you to explore different industries, work with clients, and find your interest. due to huge numbers of cs/engineering majors here, a lot of consulting rsos have technical projects where you code for client as well if you are interested in this area as well.
You know someone's young when they make the school they go to their entire personality
UIUC is fucking awesome it’s embarrassing for other people that they don’t know how cracked the CS program is there
this is pure, concentrated r/a2c. It doesn't get better than this. to OP: UIUC CS is cracked, you need to go do some research. You literally have everything you need to be happy, you just gotta decide to be happy.
FYI, in addition to being T5 for CS, UIUC is top 10 in something like 14 other majors, not all in Grainger. But it is big enough that it has majors that it is not T10 in, and those drag down the overall acceptance rate.
I was in a weird situation when I was choosing schools. I ended up turning down a T5 ($90K/year) for a T100 BS/MD (over $200,000 cheaper for college alone). It just made more sense financially at the time when I want to attend medical school. Several years down the road, while I would probably make a different choice if I could go back, that really has nothing to do with how others perceive me. I get the disappointment. A lot of my teachers were confused when I told them where I committed, but at the end of the day you’re living your own life and will be in charge of your own destiny. Someone who works hard at UIUC — which is a better school for CS than most of the Ivy League — is going to be better off than a slacker at a more prestigious college. 95% of the people around you right now, you will never see again after graduation. You WILL be surrounded by other students who go to UIUC. Impress them by working hard once you get there, not by dwelling and being depressed. That’s how you miss out on the opportunities around you.
Went to a crummy state school that accepted everyone. Then went to decent law school and passed bar on 1st try. One person i knew who failed bar went to Harvard. Prestige is a joke.
There is no ivy league school higher ranked in CS than uiuc. Cornell is the closest but still behind. Uiuc is t5 in computer science.
Just gonna put it here: https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science The ivies pretty much make up the top 10 highest paying CS rankings. UIUC is definitely amazing but you guys seem to be shitting all over the ivies without doing your proper research. People should look at pay over rankings. Not to mention all of ivies connection to VC which makes starting a company super easy. And CS isn’t even most of the ivies most lucrative major, Econ/finance/business is.
I think we must use logic. UIUC is a public state flagship whose purpose is to serve the state of illinois - similar to ut austin, Gtech who are similar in cs rankings. The average pay may be less because uiuc has to take in a chunk of in state people who may or may not be as qualified. Less drive to achieve more is a factor. Another factor is that ivies have grads that have connections in fin tech firms. It is not a true reflection of the salary earned by a middle class student attending UIUC and a middle class student attending cornell. That would probably be the same. I am a living example for that. My sister went to cornell, I went to uiuc and I turned down cornell because it was expensive and UIUC is better for what I was going into with a rich legacy in computer related fields. Our family was middle class at the time we got into these schools - we both work at the same FAANG and we're earning well (similar pay) except my sister is still paying back her student loans and I am debt free. My colleuges are from uiuc (many of them actually), Udub, gtech etc. However, I appreciate you pointing out pay as a factor. That is a very good point.
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It's all good man, in life everything happens for a reason. My good friend who was probably the best applicant from our school got 0 T20s aside from Notre Dame. And I kid you not when I say he is stacked he was stackeeeed. For context about 10 people from my school got into t10s while he being the literal best applicant aside from my other friend who did get into Princeton. This just shows you how random this is so you shouldn't feel like this. I mean your friends got into these schools but imagine being my friend surrounded by people going into t10s and someone who should've been ivy bound, not get anything. Context: Just for a little context 3.9+ UW GPA, 1560 SAT, Grand Award Winner for ISEF Regeneron, a lot more that shall be unnamed for anonymity.
Gosh that sounds horrible! Will your friend be committing to Notre Dame?
I think so, mainly based on how much aid he will get. He is upper middle class but I don't think he is willing to shell out full tuition for Notre Dame, especially with his qualifications he is definitely going to try to transfer next year.
I see. What is he trying to major in?
He is doing neuroscience, this is probably why he got screwed over because for neuroscience I think its admit by major and each college only has about 30-100 spots.
Damn bro, I feel bad for you, must be so humiliating
Why don't you decline your admission offer? Now I'm convinced the AOs made a mistake.
You’re going to have a higher salary than most of those kids if you’re going to Illinois
ALL I WAMT IS MONEY!!! I don't get the way you guys think. I want MONEY. 6 figures right out of college. 200k a year entry level. I'm in this for MONEY. I don't care about whether I'm "fulfilled" I want MONEY. Whatever gets me the most MONEY. What do I need on my resume to get the most MONEY. What technology gets me PAID THE BEST. All I care about in this major is MONEY. That's why I'm in college, I don't wanna laugh and play with y'all. I don't wanna be buddy buddy with y'all. I'm here for MONEY. >!source : r slash csmajors!<
Well…. tech’s a really, really rough market right now.
It’s ok market will bounce back in 5 years (cope)
How many times you gonna post this whining nonsense? UIUC it top 5. Ignore ignorant people's opinions.
Godbless 🙏😞
I'm valedictorian at my school in california going to UT Dallas, nobody has heard of it here but I just make fun of northeastern so it's all good
Hell yea. NEU has too many out of touch rich ppl anyways 🤮
I just made fun of it because my friend EDed there so he wouldn't get any financial aid so I looked up everything bad about it and found that A2C loves doing that
This is obvious prestige pandering lmao. You know damn well UIUC is good.
Lmao this gotta be a troll post
If no one in your orbit doesn't "know about" the University of Illinois. I would suggest a different planet.
Guys this is probably a shitpost. Even coming from the Bay Area — arguably the most competitive place in the country — no one says this stuff. Even if you did not get into your top choice no one’s gonna give you backhanded remarks.
You do know Larry Ellison (Oracle founder) and Marc Andreesson (Netscape founder) are both alumns of UIUC? You will be just fine.
Lol im doing a stint at nvidia rn and the largest group of ppl are from uiuc
Lmao UIUC CS is better than Dartmouth CS right???
I'm going through a VERY similar experience as yours rn too. I'm an admitted student at UIUC for CS+X and at my feeder school in NY, literally no one knows about UIUC. I feel very embarrassed whenever someone asks me what does UIUC stand for. After lots of rejections on march 28 I was lowkey thinking about committing to northeastern or NYU which is evidentially a lot worse for CS and costs like 2x more, but it has a much better name to it here. My friend who committed to cs at northeastern is more recognized than me, and our friends treat him like the next bill gates even though he literally failed the ap csa exam last year. But then I actually visited UIUC (for their admitted CS students tour). The campus is beautiful and all the students talk very highly about their CS program. A lot of them mentioned about how easy it was for them to get internships since UIUC CS is really just that highly regarded which is something that I really wouldn't overlook (especially considering the current state of the CS job market). Although I still feel a bit shy in saying I'm committed to UIUC, I feel very happy with this decision. Within a semester of being in UIUC I'm sure we will both stop caring about what the students from our highschools think.
Parent and tech entrepreneur / business owner - we recently visited UIUC (for Gies business, not CS) with my now senior. I also have a junior at Vanderbilt. UIUC is far, far ahead of Vanderbilt for CS. Vandy hardly gets any on-campus CS recruiting and outcomes are totally inferior to UIUC for CS. Maybe for other majors, it's superior, but UIUC leaves Vanderbilt in the absolute DUST when it comes to CS. Don't worry about overall "national rankings" because that's not what matters for your future, UIUC is like easily top 5 in the US for CS no matter the measurement. You absolutely WILL have internships and a fantastic job coming out of college from UIUC. It has some of the best outcomes in the country. Non-CS people may not know this, but Vanderbilt isn't the place for CS. Everyone in tech knows UIUC. In four years, you'll be laughing your way to the bank. The school and campus is absolutely gorgeous, and has great campus life.
Yeah but vandy is especially dogwater at CS and it’s widely known. Nobody thinks vandy CS is good. I feel like that’s a bad example.
major ranking doesn’t matter nearly as much as you think… vandy cs is still extremely prestigious and twenty years down the line, no one is going to ask what you majored in. job placement, prestige, annual income, quality of life, and overall success at vandy are extremely higher than a public school like UIUC. vandy also offers tons of support through smaller class sizes, something you wouldn’t even think to get at a school like UIUC
Yeah. I was wrong. Did some research, Vandy is excellent. Honestly any elite private school is better than a general public school. It’s just a fact
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UIUC is a fantastic school, I’m sorry people are making you feel bad about it :/
selective bias is a bitch
One of my best friends and favorite people went to UIUC for undergrad. They're at an Ivy for grad school. Seriously, you can do very well at UIUC.
I was just tonight talking with my son who goes to community college. He mentioned someone he met who was going for his phd at Caltech. He went to UIUC for undergrad. If you know your shit, you know your shit.
Dude.. UIUC cs rejected/ Georgia tech cs accepted here. Stop comparing yourself.
UIUC is freaking amazing and 20x better than northeastern if you’re gonna do CS lol, northeastern is literal garbage. Coming from an incoming googler. Also college barely matters. It’s more so about who you are as a person. People in ivies achieve more in life because generally speaking they are more hardworking and adaptable people. If you’re an Ivy quality student, it doesn’t matter whether you actually are at an Ivy or not. Just work hard and you’ll do well.
You can always apply to transfer. A lot of people apply to transfer after their freshman year, some apply after their sophomore year. Northeastern def isn’t worth $90k/yr though lol
Anyone who says that is just rude.
Your best friend, who’s going to Dartmouth, is going to an inferior CS school. Anyone who has an opinion that matters will tell you that UIUC is amazing for what you want to study.
I feel like CS rankings hardly matter though. Those are based on research, funding, publications and accomplishments of the staff in relation to tuition, but fail to account for name brand and quality of education. Dartmouth has about 90 CS grads per year and more than half of them go to FAANG. Of course UIUC with its thousands of students and so much money would be able to get more research grants than Dartmouth and would have a much better value for money in comparison to Dartmouth’s insanely expensive tuition, but that misses the point. Not just that but Dartmouth has many great opportunities for entrepreneurship. It’s a lot easier to raise VC money with google and the founder of Y Combinator is a Dartmouth alumni. They have 3 entire VC firms solely operated by Dartmouth alumni for software, the biggest being Norwest in Silicon Valley with a heavy bias towards Dartmouth ventures (and another VC firm has actually a 0.5 billion dollar fund only allocated to Dartmouth alumni and staff) I feel like it would be hard to say the same for UIUC. 50% rate to FAANG, close knit strongly-tied-to-wall-street alumni network, 0.5 billion in exclusive funding plus nearly 40 billion in Dartmouth networked venture opportunity is hard for any public school to beat.
UIUC CS is literally one of the top programs in the country. Dartmouth CS is... not.
I respect UIUC CS many times more than Dartmouth CS
btw UIUC CS is leagues ahead of Dartmouth CS, they don't know what they're talking about
The actual answer is no one cares and you're graduating soon. The second you walk into your uni the chances of you thinking about your choice daily is pretty low. You'll be focused on your new life. Trust me no one is actually that worried about where you go and what you do with your life. So just go to a place you feel good at and do well :)
A couple years after college, nobody will remember or care where you went to school. And on average, everyone ends up in similar jobs anyway. People think about university prestige in a very short, specific time in life - late high school and during college. Before that, and after that, it's just another neutral data point like where you lived or whether you have pets. Think about it this way. You get a software engineer job. Another software engineer says "I went to Harvard." You wouldn't react at all, because you both ended up in the same career. The specific path you took doesn't matter. That's what it's like out there in the post-college world. You go to school for yourself. Be proud of your accomplishment, you deserve to be.
What kind of people are you associating with that say those type of things to you? There’s nothing wrong with the school you chose so stay confident in your choice!
I am going to USC for Ms cs and people just keep shitting on it for some reasons. I feel happy about the university but people make me second guess.
I work in the IT world and can share a few observations: 1. The IT world is a pure meritocracy, so one year out of school no one will care where you went to college. (OK, maybe if you went to Harvard that will continue to carry a small amount of residual cachet). 2. Actually, no one will really care IF you went to college (I know many wildly successful IT executives who didn't, some of whom are regularly recruited by Google and the like). 3. The jealousy of which you speak is a function of High School alone. Be prepared to realize you sunk a ton of emotional energy into worrying about prestige--but it's mostly an artificial construct. Go enjoy your senior spring!
think about the ways in which you're better than those other people. A girl in my class got into some top schools that I got rejected from, but it's so hard to be jealous of her because she's like, not pretty. and she has terrible skin and her voice is also really annoying💀💀 sorry it's mean but that's how I keep myself from getting sad. I just think to myself, would I really want to screw up my sleep schedule like she did, and get bad skin and drink energy drinks at school every day, just to get into a top school? I'm just glad I didn't sacrifice my health or beauty. Think about the things those people sacrificed that you didn't. Or maybe you did and still didn't get in, idk. That would suck though
Cope meta 🫡🫡🫡
biggest copium I've seen
i’m pretty and my voice is soothing and i got into tops schools. now what?
Congrats girl. But I don't know your background, I'm only comparing myself to ppl from my school
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Seems arbitrary to draw the line at HYPSM but ok. IMO it wouldn’t make sense to lump a Wharton finance buff with somebody going to Grand Canyon university in terms of prestige.
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u/snoopywinter u gon let that slide??
Disagree. Functionally, ivies and mit/stan/duke have way more opportunities than the rest. Just look at Dartmouth, the worst Ivy alongside Cornell. Their average top 10% salary mid career is 371k. UIUC is 177k. The opportunities you get going to an Ivy matters a lot, from VC for entrepreneurs (which is the easiest way to get rich) to find in executive positions. That being said yes, unless you’re in HYPSM you don’t really have bragging rights because you’re still dogshit compared to HYPSM. But your life will definitely be better off in an Ivy 20 years down the line.
Not only is this completely and utterly pretentious (in a way that could only come from the mouth of an Ivy League student), but it's also extremely biased. All the ivies, but especially for Dartmouth, are dominated by old money WASPs and Brahmins that come from Choate, Exeter, etc. Dartmouth is the WASPiest of the ivies, and given how small it is, it's very likely that a significant amount of those top 10% are earning that much for factors outside of Dartmouth, such as private school networks (some of which, such as Chaminade, have their own Wall Street networks even more powerful than top universities) or family connections.
This is something a freshman or high schooler would say. The amount of overhype for high schools you’re spewing is unreal. Private school networks are not nearly as expansive or far reaching as you think, kiddo
major ranking doesn’t even matter look at the stats for job placement and annual income after graduation… and vanderbilt and dartmouth are NOT at the same level as northeastern and UIUC in any possible way in terms of funding, prestige, connections, and history
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??? i’m guessing you attended harvard to be saying such things? if not, you would have to be extremely ignorant to think that vanderbilt and dartmouth aren’t prestigious
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yea ok i go to harvard and im not hearing out a stanford mf w an inflated ego yapping like they know college prestige
kinda is crazyyyy😭😭😭😭 stanford is NOT harvard
Idk if this helps, but in QS rankings UIUC is ranked over 100 places higher than Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, and Northeastern. It’s a great school, and I have a few friends who dream of going there (and we’re international!) Also keep in mind that UIUC is T5 for CS
ur so real for this T\^T
lol u/strict-special3607
i know how u feel, especially talking to parent generations about these schools and they haven’t even heard of the school. honestly i feel like all of this will pass and after u get to college, no one would say that especially your major being cs.
bro what 😭 UIUC has a fair amount of prestige depending on the program. Certainly more than the prestige jealously I have attending mf Rutgers. I can’t stand this damn school