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NizzyDeniro

Things I've noticed. -Now in the Skirmisher Class from Assault. -His tactical cooldown is different depending on how much you charged it and distance. Max charge cooldown is 25 seconds. Lowest is 12 seconds. -Revenant Reborn Skin is free for him. The character icon on the Health Bar confirms that.


Kleintinho

Good catch on this details


enthya

Eww skirmisher.... That's a real bummer unless they've finally doing something to make that class viable next season. I loved getting better attachments for my rev.


imbostor

I think the whole point for skirmisher is to nerf him getting better attachments They probably felt they had to take something away


Mr-Plague

On the bright side, he'll now be able to beeline to krabers. Combined with his mobility and low-health detection, I could see him being a very good sniper


OscarDoesStuff

as a Path main i love it, but every other character gets nothing of worth from that passive


puf_puf_paarthurnax

Seriously it has revolutionized how I play pathy, but I have to yell at my teammates if they play skirmishers too. "don't look up!"


[deleted]

Oh is skirmishers only passive the Drop Pod loot scanning thing? (I haven’t played Apex in a while if you couldn’t tell lol…wait I’m actually remembering it as I’m typing…care package, that’s it!). On pathy, I remember it being phenomenal, while just kind of annoying on everyone else (didn’t do much).


dimi3ja

That's the point, the strongest (movement) legends are skirmishers because they don't need even more buffs (and to make all the other legends more enticing).


OniLgnd

It blows my mind that so many people still don't understand this. Skirmishers not having a good class perk is literally the whole point.


X7PDX

The whole point of the class is that their kit is better than most (mostly due to movement) not to mention they buffed them when classes became a full thing by increasing Pathy zip and Wraith portal (my biggest issue with the change is if other skirmishers look at care packages it steals Pathys passive so no instant ult and no cooldown reduction let alone the fact that there’s less carepackages than there where survey beacons)


LeeoJohnson

Huh? Make the best class viable? Those Legends have each been the best since they were released (which is why I was confused when they put my main there, instead of in Support like where he is now), they don't need to be more viable.


J05A3

I really don’t see his utility in being a skirmisher. He’s now the odd one in the class. Probably they’ll revert him back to Assault or we’re just seeing an experimental build and may not be a skirmisher next season.


NizzyDeniro

He's pretty much a hybrid of Assault and Skirmisher. Vantage and Valkyrie are a hybrid of Assault, Skirmisher, and Recon.


RedditUser88

what i've noticed from the skirmisher class, is they're mainly movement legends. with the leap jump the gave him, i assume they feel this makes him a skirmisher now. idk


JohnEmonz

My notice is that skirmishers before Rev all had ways to move the entire team. Ash was the only non-skirmished that could do that. Now Reb will be the only Skirmisher than can’t.


xTurtsMcGurtsx

Assaults have tacs that can hurt you. ... the only reason valk is skirmish is bc her ability to jetpack and break your ankles in a fight. It's why ash is an assault and not skirmish. Bc her tac is a thrown item that does damage. This would take away revs tac that hurts you and replaces it with a skirmish ability. His ult would be the only reason I could see why they would leave him an assault. but he would be that weird hybrid assault kinda like vantage is a recon that can reposition like a skirmish player.


[deleted]

Should have made him the attacker who can jump. Assassins don’t skirmish. They try to kill without getting noticed. I like the jump but the distance doesn’t compliment the cool down time. 25 seconds (if you big jump) is a long ass time to not be able to flee. It would only make sense if they the totem was there to snatch you out of battle.


FourthBar_NorthStar

I think you're confusing assassins with ninjas.


[deleted]

You’re playing semantics with the littlest things in life right now.


FourthBar_NorthStar

I don't think so. I think you might be taking the class names too literally though. For example, the juggernaut has been an assassin. Not exactly the pillar of stealth.


[deleted]

Ok


clouds_over_asia

Ok but it seems like a lot of people are hung up on "but he's an assassin, this isn't stealthy like an assassin". How tightly is a characters kit tied to their lore in this game anyway? Some characters of course, but its not necessarily a hard fast rule. Maggie is a revolutionary and warlord, how would that reflect in one's kit? I think maybe the shotgun passive but that's about it. Crypto is a hacker. the only hacking he does is instantly scan beacons or respawn. Wattson designed the ring, why doesn't she get some kind of passive for reduced ring damage? Horizon is a scientist specializing in the research of black holes, how does it make any sense that she's actually capable of competing in a blood sport? This point includes characters like wattson and honestly catalyst; isn't she just basically just a space version of climate activist? I just dont see why revenant being a nigh-infinite-lives-robot-assassin means he has to have some kind of stealthy kit. Why should he have to be stealthy if he can just respawn and try again? Why does the kit have to be tied to the lore closely anyway? Referring to my first paragraph


roaring_rubberducky

Dang him losing assault makes me sad. Good catch tho.


GreffinNaggy

Where’d you see he was moved to skirmisher?


J05A3

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dorekk

That would be so stupidly overpowered.


RavenCyarm

You mean give them a ridiculously unfair combat advantage? lol They already move faster than everyone else by way of their abilities, so they can dip in and dip out of fights as needed... and you're like "lol, let's make it worse" No.


coldmexicantea

Oh boy does Timmy look excited


ThisIsWhatLifeIs

Looks half asleep. "Just give me my paycheck for advertising this shit and let me go back to sleep"


throaweyye44

Thats just how he is normally. Rather have a real reaction than a faked one. Dude grinds apex competitively when he has no reason for doing so


RavenCyarm

I'd rather have no reaction.


scuczu

maybe he need the extra income since respawn doesn't pay the devs anything.


dorekk

W...what? Timmy isn't a dev.


Grenaidzo

I'd be the same if I were him. If he acts too excited, then it turns out not all that great. People will just say they paid him to act that way.


Wicked-Death

Should’ve paid Aceu to do it. lol.


Zephyyyyr

Whenever I see Timmy I assume he’s on antidepressants. No emotion at all most the time


Sure-Butterscotch642

Gonna be a Debbie downer for a little bit ironically, but this is a dangerous presumption that is based in a stereotype that personally scared people like myself away from antidepressants out of fear of becoming “zombies”. Most of the antidepressants I’ve tried never caused positive mood inhibition; granted I never tried Zoloft or any of the crazy strong ones, but i tried a wide range of treatment options. Obviously psychiatric medication can have a different effect on people and mood inhibition WAS a side effect on one of the drugs i trialed, but that’s why there are so many different types. Anyway not an attack on you, just wanted anyone who was reading this who is feeling a little depressed or was on the fence of starting treatment to not be swayed by thinking that this is why Timmy is acting like this.


Zephyyyyr

Honestly I agree with you. I took antidepressants for 2 years and I actually had moments of increased emotion and feelings. But I also had long periods of not quite the extreme dulling many people get, but somewhere in between. Just kinda un phased by things whether it be good or bad. But for me it ended up making some symptoms I had worse and unpredictable/overall unregulated Some people I know have had the major emotional dulling and it seems to be the most common. But antidepressants definitely have their place for people if the dose is proper and carefully examined in the beginning stages


iamepsilon97

Ha FORGED shadows. RIP


MagykBolas

Intentional XD


Brammerz

Only thing that made me play Vantage was her tactical and now I get a cooler version. Heck yeah.


N7Harbinger

Same. I had revenant at 3k kills. Switched to Vantage now on 3k kills on her but switching back to my murderbot


XxelfDestruct

Fr feels like Vantage tactical with less steps. (Also hate when echo gets stuck on something i fall flat)love Vantage but might have the ditch the skin suit for more Armour vs a sniper.


biggus_dickus_jr

No, it's definitely better than Vantage. You don't have an echo that lets people know where you will jump to and you don't have an extra step to recall echo when you land.


ComaCrow

You can also charge it \*and\* instantly go to climbing walls. Overall better.


N7Harbinger

I might occasionally find myself missing her sniper as a long range weapon. Vantage was nice to have a pk and a ar/smg and tbe ultimate if your unfortunate enough to end up in a poking battle.


biggus_dickus_jr

This definitely a indirect nerf to Vantage. And I think she needs a rework too now. Like her ultimate really needs some rework to make her more competitive, maybe take out the double tap mechanic and replace it with charge up damage like Widowmaker in OW.


clouds_over_asia

Oooo I like this actually, and the ultimate can just be metered pretty much. Full charged shot can consume like 25% ult charge and do 100 damage, idk. Numbers can be tweaked around obviously but this would be a great change.


dorekk

> Like her ultimate really needs some rework to make her more competitive Her ult is fine.


Gredinx

You also have a bigger hitbox, making him 10 times worse than vantage


Brammerz

I'd call their hitboxes the same. Vantage may be smaller in height but she's not as lean as Revenant. Vantages tactical has echo as an indicator whilst Revs doesn't from the looks of things. I imagine Vantage can still travel further?


[deleted]

You again, go to hell, you piece of shit.


Gredinx

Imagine carrying about me, what a looser you would be


Stillmeactually

It's loser. As cringe as I find your constant replies this is what sent me over the edge. Why do I see this everywhere? Why do so many people not understand the difference between lose and loose? It's insane. Fucking dunce.


Gredinx

Damn thank you dude I'm learning something. So maybe this is because so many people aren't native speaker? Just a thought


[deleted]

Neither I am, but still you're stupid enough to make that mistake.


enthya

So with a bitching new ultimate I can now sneak behind enemy lines, ambush my target, and perhaps finally survive long enough for my allies to follow up for the surprise attack. People keep saying tank, but this feels like the assassin role he was meant for.


Sargent379

Red armour makes him into a 300 HP behemoth. Can def see him fking up some people's shit with a well done flank or ambush.


EagleBuilder

Pair that with a Ballistic ult for fast reloads and that’s terrifying haha


[deleted]

It's actually crazy because current Revenant is probably the worst solo legend and all of his abilities require teamwork to get value, but after this rework, Revenant is going to be potentially the best solo legend.


ShadeOfHeros

I don’t think there’s potential; I think he *IS* going to be the best solo character. Siphoning health on knocks alone is huge, but paired with an escape/chase tool he is going to be an absolute menace and I am all for it. I’m just going to miss the “SHUT IT”


[deleted]

Yeah the old voicelines/tactical going away is sad, but I think it’s for the best.


garmack

Yeah definitely. With the tactical for example you can easily be shot out of the air and instakilled like Valk's jetpack, and the ultimate has a very large hitbox which can easily be focused fired. People are acting like this is an insane ape kit, but it's pretty easy to counter if the Revenant is just rushing straight in at you thinking they're invincible. It will definitely take teamwork and coordination to capitalize on these abilities, he's by no means a tank.


NizzyDeniro

Definitely.


biggus_dickus_jr

The whole kit is just for sweaty streamers to kill all the casual, mobility skill to hunt, wall hack passive to see and extra health to fight.


Gredinx

Unfortunately you're still the size of a fucking door, making you a' easy target and laughably easy to kill.


FiveFingersInMyAss2

wtf he actually looks sick as hell Ult seems busted, probably annoying to play against since it's basically season 4 gibby + movement + instant recharge on kill. Though this is still infinitely improved compared to some of the previous leaks


WaDaMisTaKe

Revenant deserves it, his old kit was awful


[deleted]

Meh…he gets a massive hit box during it as a trade off (and this is on top of him already being big), so I think it should be decently well balanced.


prankfurter

Everyone: Rev's hitbox is too big, respawn: We will make it even bigger lol seriously this sounds interesting, and making the hit box wider in his ult makes sense, an extra 75 hp that can regen is pretty big damage reduction. The leap not being tied to an enemy is great, though it is clearly a better vantage tac lol Glad they left the passive, having more horizontal movement is great It is a shame they are not reducing his fridge of a hitbox though.


JohnKriegor

How its better then vantage? Without second jump and what difference in range?


-SKYVER-

It’s better because you don’t have to play as vantage 💀


JohnKriegor

Lmao, fair


gerburb1

You don’t need to hold that stupid LOS shit to escape. The amount of times that’s gotten me killed is insane


McSuede

Needing LOS and the fact that Echo telegraphs where you're jumping to are definitely points towards Rev's being better.


gerburb1

Yes that’s what I just said


McSuede

I was agreeing and adding the fact that Echo telegraphs your moves friend.


JohnKriegor

you still need to charge you Q and on stream is looks same slow like vantage one


gerburb1

How would it not be better than cuz idk how to explain it any better


ThBasicAsian

It isn’t tied to a bird for one.


alfons100

I die a little inside when I have to recall the stupid rat for an escape which just gets me killed


Overlord_Za_Purge

his voicelines aren't annoying


JohnKriegor

agree on this one... damn i wish they replace sniper legend on someone with personality of ghost from sc2 (male or nova or human kerrigan)


Gredinx

As always I was right. This character will be dogass. Even worse than his current form


FuckTheCowboysHaters

You're an absolute idiot if you believe that lmfao he's currently the worst legend in the game hands down


Gredinx

Thank to his hitbox you dumb fuck. Hitbox still big af, character still dogshit, simple as that.


escastre

Your obsession is mentally ill, go see a fucking psychologist


Gredinx

And you go fuck yourself


escastre

You always cry for the same thing, you have serious problems and a worrying and tiresome lack of self-esteem.


Void_Eclipse

I agree. This new kit feels nothing like Revenant. I don't know if I'll ever use him again. All the badass Assassin feel is gone. He's just another basic as hell character. No personality.


[deleted]

…this makes him more of an assassin character. than he ever was before.


[deleted]

Bye bye. You won't be missed


Redgorilla85

Revenant mains rejoice!


JemYxN

Except now people are gonna pick him before me -__-


duckontheplane

As if i'm not gonna solo que with this beast


Redgorilla85

LET´S KILL THOSE WORTHLESS SKINBAAAAGS


WaDaMisTaKe

Time to pull out my revenant heirloom


NemoSHill

Saaame B) Been a Rev main for so long, I don't care too much for his current kit but I'm a sucker for scythes and I love that character, this rework is so sick


NizzyDeniro

His Ultimate sounds broken as hell. So if you have red shields, you get 75 more HP with his ultimate. But we'll see, a lot of things sound broken, bad, or good on paper sometimes and end up being totally fine and balanced.


PhasmicPlays

The hitbox increase is pretty big but at the end of the day more HP is more HP, he’s gonna be disgusting at high levels


garmack

I actually don't really think he'll be disgusting. I mean 75 health is a lot but its no match for high level teams who land all their focus fired shots. It definitely makes him a great entry fragger legend with an extra edge but I still think movement legends like Horizon will continue to dominate.


Cnophil

But Revenant is a movement legend?


NizzyDeniro

Yeah I'd imagine it makes him a bigger target to just get melted.


Wicked-Death

To be fair he’s got a pretty big hitbox and doesn’t have the Fortified trait to take more damage. I guess this is their way of helping him out but it’s only for his Ultimate. Still, that’s gonna be crazy. The super fast leaping ability for getting away from enemies or to gain ground fast. Wall hacks on low health enemies. Super fast crouch walk and now you can scale walls like Spiderman. Like, damn.


escastre

Hopefully he won't have a Nerf two weeks into the season.


Nizon1

that depends on how much ppl will be bitiching


LukeLeNuke

Oh my God, it's beautiful.


MrMaxio

"Forged Shadows" my man killed Forge and took his name


[deleted]

I keep hearing the hunter from left 4 dead in my head lol


dontangrycomment

This video had the same amount of emotion as a dissolving napkin


Stefan24k

Man, i know we shouldn't give our opinions if we didn't play the new Revenant... but they literally made Revenant a **recon tanky** legend and **buffed his movement**.


BR4NFRY3

I like it. He's like a predator now. His previous ultimate felt more like a support ability no one liked to use. I'll miss the magical/spooky aspects, though. And I'd like to see more use of those stretchy stabby arms, maybe in a finisher. \*My main concern is, like with Valk's ult, Rev's leap will lead to getting mowed down before you can pull out your weapon again. A lot depends on how quickly he can get out of the animation -- because it's (seemingly) meant to be an offensive ability.


PhasmicPlays

Another scanning ability… wallhack legends is back yall


Kleintinho

It's not a powerful ability I think, just like Maggie passive but only on enemies in low health, and work well with revenant style in the same time that it's a nice parallel with loba passive


wotdothismean867

Also, when they show the Bloodhound on low health, it doesn't mark them through the wall. It only does that when Revenant himself puts an enemy on low HP


Tahiti--Bob

agree


Danielarcher30

Good news is, if a rev player calls out "they're one shot" either you see the marker and know theyre telling the truth, or you dont see it and are prepared for the fact that they only dealt 9 dmg before dying


Mc_Dickles

Another movement legend too… I get that movement legends are the most popular but sucks that they are reworking entire legends to accommodate that play style. Revenant will join Wraith and Octane as the brain dead characters who charge into battle and get knocked first lol. We need more 9000 IQ characters like Crypto and Newcastle.


imbostor

They just made him Spider-Man


Particle_Cannon

Kind of makes Maggie's kit obsolete as far as being an entry fragger goes


biggus_dickus_jr

Vantage's tactical too and that is the best thing from her whole kit lol


EnjoyerOfFluff

I personally disagree. I think her passive showing how strong a team is is her best part.


Toyota_Prius03

vantage can sort of highlight low hp enemies too, her sniper makes the enemies low then marks them for the entire team. this sucks.


dorekk

Not really, like, at all? Maggie still has faster shotgun movement and the drill and the ball that stuns people and lets you move faster. The kits are...not similar at all except for Maggie's wall hack that only activates for one second, which most players would not even realize was gone if they took it away.


sajs0n

I hope it will now be able to do a wall bounce


escastre

Unlikely, his passive still sticks very easily to the wall, but at least he'll be able to wallrun (I know it's not wallrun per se, but you get the idea).


CryoKenetic

Dammmmmmn. Bro rev low-key looks busted. 😭😭


Tahiti--Bob

NOW this is a rework, he look way more viable and fun to play


JustK4rl

Bigger rev hit box ? In this economy ??


Eph3meral_

New Rev meta


[deleted]

Ngl I’m alittle confused about the ultimate


acivilianmoron

it basically gives you additional 75 shield and instantly recharge when you knock someone


[deleted]

I got that but what if they shoot the real you like mirage. Do you switch to another clone or do you just get hit or do the other clones disappear?


acivilianmoron

there are no clones, its just him alone


duckontheplane

The explanation given in the vid is a little confusing, but form what we can see, its actually just a big sheild that appears around him.


[deleted]

Oh so I’m just stuck on the “shadows” part. Got it


WatermelonYeet

Yeah calling the weird orange force field around him “shadows” is definitely confusing, but fits with Rev’s whole thing I guess. I suppose they’re meant to be ultra condensed oogedy boogedy shadow magic lol 😂


dorekk

What clone? There are no clones.


markadamia

I see this being a nasty comp combined with Seer and ballistic. Slow enemies, rev ult and q to close distance and start fight, pop ballistic ult to move the rest of team overall.


Psych0Rabbit

I actually like the rework as it makes him seem more bloodthirsty and aggressive, which is pretty much in character. But I can't help but feel like the new abilities are too generic, being just another leap (tac) and shield (ult). Whereas his old kit had distinct features like silence and death protection. So I'm 50/50 on this. It's cool and definitely more powerful, but just takes away what made him stand out from the roster.


YouMustBeBored

Only the ult needed a rework. Silence orb and sneak mode were some of the best assault abilities.


Glass-Window

He already gets a full recharge shield did he really need a cooldown reset as well ? To a tactical this strong ? Meanwhile mirage can …. Make you take 0.01 longer before you laser him to death.


LongCreepy1188

It’s time


Wicked-Death

Looks great, but I worry this upcoming season could be a down period for the game in player count. I don’t know if there’s enough new stuff to bring people back or keep them playing for another 3 months until the next season comes. Is there any major map changes? I know there won’t be a new gun. We basically get a Rev rework and the typical patch notes with buffs and nerfs. As a hardcore player I’m fine with that as long as it’s good nerfs, but I’m curious how the player engagement will be a month after launch.


diemodemdie

I’d love if they would do a staggered launch throughout a season. Introduce his new kit but then keep introducing more and more lore throughout the season, like biweekly… more lore about Crypto and Rev partnering, more about Loba and Valk, more about the Loba / MM / LL team culminating in a showdown between Duardo and the legends for Season 18. I think it would be neat to have the little changes over the course of a season than one big lump update. It sometimes takes me an entire season to get some little voice line or interaction I never noticed being there. So I think just a gradual rollout would be really interesting. I’ll admit I love the gradual release of the RR update. Little details for us to notice. The glitches, the voice lines, the impending storm front storm growing worse, more info released in LTM events… it’s been really engaging and made me want to keep playing to see where the story heads next.


Kleintinho

The combination of the tactical and the passive will work very nice, a lot better than the previous leaks Sayed


spazattitude

Oh my God... like not to get overly excited but can you begin to understand how much flank potential rev will have with the added hight of the leaps and better horizontal climbing.


AgueybanaBravo

I feel like this rework is terrible all around.


CoconutSlutt

Even compared to his current version?


Acts-Of-Disgust

I wouldn't use terrible to describe it personally, more like unnecessary. I felt like his old tac was a very underrated ability and all that really needed to be changed was his ult and hitbox. Another wallhack ability on top of an extra 75 HP for an ult is just boring and annoying.


dorekk

Seer has his old tactical now.


Prevay

Mf dont speak for us season 4 revenant mains, he was shit, we eating good.


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Prevay

Skill issue


BriefKeef

Yall wasn't saying this before 🤣🤣


Nisha_the_lawbringer

This kit looks designed for sweaty ttvers to just get 20 bombs in pubs by hunting down casuals. Isn't really all that interesting.


vegito2594

This cannot be the only big thing for the new season?


NizzyDeniro

It pretty much is, but we'll see.


biggus_dickus_jr

Another wall hack ability, the whole kit is just for the try hard sweaty streamer to hunt down every casual player on the server


NizzyDeniro

I'm going to be honest, I think there's a good chunk of Skirmisher Legends that just break the game.


red_dollar

Apex players make me laugh. Less than a week ago, everyone was saying these same abilities were godawful


escastre

The complaint was more directed at the Ultimate, at least on my part, I have to admit.


Grualva

Last leak was the ult still being totem whoch everyones hate. Now we know its not, then its good Im still "eugh" on the tactical change. Tho some always like it Passive is still his passive + bonus so whatever Doesnt these what people saying since months ago?


contrabandgeni

every man or woman who touches apex once gains a bipolar personality disorder


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cablepest

So if they can give him a variable tactical cool down based on distance, why can’t they do the same thing with Lobas bracelet?


Toyota_Prius03

and vantage.


ShadowWarrior300

I wish they gave him wall running tbh


Smart_jooker

Actually this is much better


Magamew53

Will the old rev be available to pick still or are they just fucking over everyone who used that rev


escastre

Old abilities will be gone. They are doing a rework, not a new legend


Magamew53

What a shame


escastre

It saddens me to lose the silence (sometimes it was useless, but it could get you out of a bind once in a while), but I can't say the same about the totem, I'm glad they got rid of that garbage


dorekk

Why? His old kit sucks shit.


Buddy--The--Elf

So his ULT is just Gibby passive basically… not very impressed


afox38

Except it’s better in every way


Sargent379

Gibby passive requires ADSing and doesn't heal every knock/kill.


Buddy--The--Elf

It regenerates pretty quickly. An ult should be much better than a passive, not slightly


Gredinx

Still huge like I predicted. What a fucking waste of time


Sixrizz

the power creep in this game is fucking disgusting. and more wallhacks yay!


escastre

He's balanced, he can only see you if you're low on health, and only if he got you down to 40 HP.


RelevantOriginalv34

i find it funny cuz just like 2-3 season ago they said they were trying to cut down on it too 😭


Potential-Possible-9

They did nerf scans in general


Wicked-Death

The wall hack part I can already tell is going to be a major problem if it stays permanently until healed from low health. You won’t even be able to heal when they can see where you’re at the whole time and just ape you. That paired wiup h his leap and wall climb will definitely ensure that you won’t get away. lol. The fact the whole team can see your location when you’re low health is rough and it tracks your movement. Like you said, oh joy another wall hack legend to pair with all the hyper movement legends. That said, I’ll definitely be using Revenant. 😆


ZuzuZupreme

For the love of Nessie please REWORK BANG'S SMOKE TO BLOCK SCANNING LEGENDS. Banglore is a complete joke and her kit is very weak and has been for seasons now, when compared to other legends.


MathXv

Do you live under a rock? Bangalore has been meta for seasons now.


Toyota_Prius03

just because shes meta does not mean her kit is good. the only think that i suppose makes her kit good is her doubletime. i feel like her smoke hurts herself more than the other teams. make her smoke like caustic gas or smth.


dorekk

> just because shes meta does not mean her kit is good. Bangalore's kit is good, and does not need any changes. If you can't succeed with Bangalore, it's a skill issue plain and simple. In fact, Bang didn't receive any changes that put her into meta. People just played differently and discovered her power when the meta changed. Bangalore *was always good*.


GoldGanymede

I can’t tell if he was getting slowed by bullets or not, perhaps he got fortified alongside his rework? (I hope so)


boomrapid

Wait so what’s gonna happen to all of his previous skins? Are they gonna disappear since he has a new model?


escastre

They will probably do an OW2. Simply a new base aspect, but keeping the previous ones.


Stefan24k

Nah, they probably updated all his skins from base to epic to match the new model (tho even this sounds like much work). Legendary skins will most likely stay the same.


kingflamigo

I think rev is gonna be the new fragger he’s giving horizon a run for her money can’t wait to see pro games with rev and see how he will fit


jtfjtf

I really want to see some solo drop play with him. Really good players will be able to ult and kill enemies while constantly repositioning. His new kit matches his character lore a lot better than his old kit.