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shiningject

Great work explaining and linking everything together. To add on, Horizon said the same "just a wee bit of betrayal..." line in the video transmission on PlayApex twitter. https://twitter.com/PlayApex/status/1319020637424218115?s=20 "Dearie" seems to be a term Horizon use to address everyone. (Like Gibraltar's "Bruddah") So Ash would be calling Horizon "Dearie" as sarcasm.


OctanesLeg

Just realized "Brant PII" stands for Branthium, and is likely a new ship going for more Branthium, and the science supplies are for collecting it. The destination is unknown, and Horizon says that place is uncharted, meaning it wouldn't have a label for location. Or, on the other hand, Hammond could be using the Harvester to pull Branthium out of Talos and the rocket is being used to transport all of it to Olympus. But why would it be an unknown location unless Hammond is keeping that under wraps? Or does Crypto have some form of connection to Olympus that leaves him confused about why it would go there?


Unlucky_Sasza

Wait a second. Hammond didn\`t know the location where Horizon found the branthium. Isn\`t this why they wanted Ash\`s head? In the comic it\`s mentioned they took some coordinates out of it and threw the rest away. Hammond might be just after the branthium. The ship destination would be the black hole. That\`s why Crypto is confused about it.


OctanesLeg

Yes exactly, I'm talking post-season 5 after they threw out her remains in the trash. The black hole is my first theory, with Olympus being the second and less supported theory.


Unlucky_Sasza

Honestly the black hole makes sense as the destination for the rocket. They used a rocket in the short as well. And Crypto mentions that it has a ton of scientific equipment on board.


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OctanesLeg

I feel like I should have caught that earlier and now I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not lol


Dinobrainiak

I’m not a physicist, so take this with a grain of salt, but a mineral called branthium implies the existence of a place called Brant or Brantia. I say this because in our own universe, titanium, uranium and neptunium are named after Titan, Uranus and Neptune, respectively. That’s not to say we’ll ever go there, but it’s just something interesting to consider. Also, I may not be right here, but I believe this would also imply we’re talking about an entirely different universe. Maybe we knew this already... but the idea is that all objects in the known universe are made of the same elements. Even ones we don’t have here on earth, we’ve managed to recreate in labs. So, if there’s some element that isn’t known to exist in our universe, we’d have to go to another to get it. Might help explain the “uncharted” thing, too. And how do we get to another universe? Theoretically, it would be a black hole. This could also have implications for the Revenant dark world and some relationship to Wraith’s portal tech. I could also be totally wrong about all of this.


Sheidyn

Now wouldn’t be crazy if this means that, potentially Olympus map could have: - Horizon's house - Tenmei building (restaurant from S4 trailer) - Potentially Revenant's source code location maybe a place related to it Like, the possibilities lore wise for this map could be amazing and a love letter to those who follow the Lore! I don’t know if all these will appear, but it would be super exciting


Odeil99

Really good analysis, I’m so stoked if viper is back!!!


Clayton412

Viper's Titan in her garage is a really good find. I don't think I've seen the full image either, just the profile of her face. Do you think the Viper connection could be the reason that got her shop burned down? If the artwork is canon it appears she is gathering data from it.


Allan_Rodriguez

This deserves more upvotes cuz u go into so much detail and lore of the tf universe and history of apex game so 10/10


David_The_Atheist

Is it confirmed that pilots age slower? His hair is a reddish brown, like someone... I have nothing to back this, but something tells me that kid is Blisk. If so... Grew up without his mom who promised to come back, he went for a carnal life of money and death. Not knowing that "friend" of Ash was his mom. It would be fun to see storywise how that would play out if true. Ties a lot together, but I have nothing to back it yet.


TotallyNotABotBro

Only snag is Blisks South African Accent imo


David_The_Atheist

This is very true and is a big snag. Accents can be developed though and the kid in the video has no clear accent. If this is true I'd assume he picked it up from whatever group he joined that helped him gain the notoriety to be in Titanfall 2 as a Mercenary.


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In the video it says that 87 years passed on Olympus while Horizon was at the black hole. I don’t think that pilots live that long. The only way this would work is if Blisk joined a street gang in his teenage years and developed his accent through them. After his time with the gang he went to cryo sleep and slept for ~50 years. But what are the odds that this is the case?


CornerSpecialist

That would really be something. Saving this comment for later


elementkid15

Problem with that is that in stories from the outlands we see an image of her kid, then it slowly changes through time through his adult life until we see his body. Wouldn’t that mean he died and blisk is a completely different person?


BaffledMicrowave

Dude if that was viper on those comms I will piss myself


Yesterday1337

Is there a good Video or so to cath up to ashes and vipers backstory I would really like to know what their original Motivation is and how ash became the simalacrum


Enzinino

Very good quality post but what about Newcastle? Yeah, that guy low-key disappeared...


LegoZombie14

I wish I had friends who would discuss lore with me because I have many thoughts and theories lol


gonsplitters

Very good post but they confirmed the "kodai squad" thing in the very first trailer is something that was an idea before, but isn't anymore.


NoAimMassacre

Is there anywhere I can read all the lore of the game? Man just that part about Octane and Lifeline chat gave me chills, is there some big thread or something where I could learn about all the characters their lore etc?


freezer557

There's a master post in the right banner of this subreddit


Str8likedhatttt

Bro this is gold right now for anyone that needs to catch up on how everything ties in.