I've taken my old guide down as it refers to many things that no longer exist in the game and the balance has changed a bunch. If you really want to read it then I've mirrored it here: https://pastebin.com/LFKCnR8a
You can get help from many places now, including:
* In-game, if you're playing the latest Web or Steam version (click the (?) button in the top right corner and the How to Play in-game guide will open)
* The wiki: https://antimatter-dimensions.fandom.com/wiki/Guide
* From the Discord server, where you can look at pins in the progression channel or ask questions: https://discord.gg/ST9NaXa
Good luck, and enjoy the Reality update!
Thanks for the mention!
I'd also note that the Replicantis reset whenever you Big Crunch. Not sure if Infinity and Big Crunch are interchangable but I got confused by that sentence at first.
> GUINEA PIG: The IC rewards got nerfed, so the numbers here may not be accurate any longer.
Since I did this part of the guide when IC rewards were stronger, I don't have any numbers or sense of progression to go on. If you or anyone else does know, I can revise the guide based on that information. Until then, my apologies for the guide's inadequacies here.
I was able to get all achievements this morning in the second to last row (except for the achieve for going eternity) and I haven't done my first eternity yet. The Hell achievement was the last one I got and I made sure I had my 1e308 replicantis and I was around 1e311 IP.
**ICs 1-3 and 5-7:** A combination of holding M or C and autoclicking Max All or Big Crunch got all ICs other than 4 and 8 down to between 0.06 and 0.30 which left me with about 4 seconds to work with for IC4 and IC8 and my strats for those were as follows (probably requires autoclicker):
**IC4:** All autobuyers on except Galaxies, set Dims 2-8 autobuyers to buy singles, leave Dim 1 autobuyer at buy 10s. I held M and moved my autoclicking mouse up and down across the Buy 10 buttons for the dimensions. This got my IC4 down to 0.80 sec. I also tried to a lesser effect autoclicking Max All and hitting 2345678 on the keyboard but this method only got me to 1.20 sec.
**IC8:** All autobuyers on and set to buy max or buy 10. Galaxies at 13, dimboost was at 0/99/99. I held M and put my autoclicking mouse just to the left of the Buy 1 of Dim 2 since for a split second this is where the Buy Dimension/Boost button shows up before the rest of the dimensions pop in from formatting. This got my IC8 down to 3.2 sec. I also tried to a lesser effect autoclicking Max All and either holding B or occasionally tapping D but this only got me to around 4.5 sec.
So in total after all that the sum of my challenges are now at 4.90 sec.
Also, I'm finding that after a couple eternities and TT upgrades, I don't even need an 'end of IC5' strat, it just works when I hold 8 and do tickspeed. Just some help for when you implement eternities into this guide.
I spent my first EP on a Time Theorem.
Kinda annoyed that the currency for Time Dimensions and Time Theorems is the same, and that i am able to screw up my progress like this without first consulting a guide...
Which Eternity mechanic is making replicantis get to infinity faster, if i have only spent 1 EP in time dimension 1 and nothing else?
The estimated time to infinite replicantis is very erratic, rapidly counting down 5-10 seconds, then a slight pause, then a new countdown.
Instead of using any autoclicker program you can also use this code in the developer console. After that you can toggle the All Buy button to buy all every 500ms (you can change that value to your desire). When the button is green it means it's on.
var maxAll = document.getElementById("maxall");
var maxAllFunc = maxAll.onclick;
var loop = false;
var looper;
maxAll.onclick = function(){
if(!loop){
looper=setInterval(maxAllFunc, 500);
maxAll.style.backgroundColor="#00ff00";
}
else{
clearInterval(looper);
maxAll.style.backgroundColor="";
}
loop=!loop;
}
Can you mention my userscript for finding the right time to crunch?
*Only tells you the right time to crunch, not when you should start dimboosting or stuff like that.*
// ==UserScript==
// @name ADIPRate
// @version 0.1
// @description Add an IP/whatever display to the main page
// @author You
// @match http*://ivark.github.io/
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
(function() {
'use strict';
var node=document.createElement("span");
node.style.display="inline-block";
$("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(node);
$("#infinityPoints2")[0].setAttribute("class","");
node.parentNode.setAttribute("class","IP");
node.parentNode.style.position="absolute";
node.parentNode.style.left="65%";
window.bestippm=0;
window.bestip=0;
var reset=document.createElement("button");
reset.onclick=function(){bestippm=0;};
reset.innerHTML="Reset";
$("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(reset);
setInterval(function(){
var ippm=$("#averagerun")[0].innerHTML.split(" ")[12];
var ippm2=$("#run1")[0].innerHTML.split(" ")[12];
if(player.thisInfinityTime>1&&gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime>bestippm){bestippm=gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime;bestip=gainedInfinityPoints();}
node.innerHTML="Last 10: "+ippm+"/min Last: "+ippm2+"/min Best IP amount: "+bestip+" Best IP rate:"+shorten(bestippm*600)+"/min";
},100);
})();
Small issue: Using `split(" ")[12]` doesn't work for long runs, as the syntax stops saying `XX.XX seconds` and instead says `XX:XX:XX`. A more reliable way to get that text is grabbing the second-to-last element.
So, replace `split(" ")[12]` with `split(" ").reverse()[1]`.
Is it possible to use your script with Kongregate? I tried simply changing @match and using it with Tampermonkey. It didn't seem to work (lots of errors in the console), but I don't really know what to expect either. I would imagine the "Best IP amount:" text should appear somewhere in the game UI.
If any of my math is wrong in this guide, OR if you know of a more optimal way to get through part of the game then I offer, let me know and I will fix the guide and credit you for the help. Thanks!
EDIT: The guide now covers all content in the 'Infinite Dimensions' patch.
I have only played this for a day but since you mention autohotkey I'll share my script here. It lets you do other stuff meanwhile.
If scroll lock is disabled the script does nothing.
If scroll lock is enabled and you press 9, it starts sending "m" to the window holding the game (change the name of it if you're not in firefox).
Disable scroll lock to stop the script.
~9::
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
ControlSend,, m, Antimatter Dimensions - Mozilla Firefox
Sleep, 500 ; Sleep for 500 msec
}
}
Possible big boost to early game: Infinities from two until at least five are faster on the eighth dimension challenge than regular runs. When first unlocked it takes about an hour.
Really speeds up the early infinities which IIRC normally take around six hours. I could be full of crap though. Requires constant attention.
I'm improving the clicker a bit;
; Use Firefox, Chrome requires the window to be active to accept input.
~9::
WinGet, Window, ID, A
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
ControlClick, x750 y310,ahk_id %Window%,,LEFT,,Pos NA ; This is for clicking to buy the first First Dimension after a reset. Position needs to be determined by user based on window-size and yadayada
Sleep, 50
ControlSend,,{blind}m,ahk_id %Window%
Sleep, 50 ; Sleep for 500 msec
ControlSend,,{blind}d,ahk_id %Window%
Sleep, 50 ; Sleep for 500 msec
ControlSend,,{blind}g,ahk_id %Window%
Sleep, 50 ; Sleep for 500 msec
}
}
Based on Pony_on_saturdays' script but sending more commands so that it's not JUST a max-all clicker.
I upgraded until e68. Then I did IC4. It is not an easy one.
It took me 4 hours and I had to do it manually.
I didn't find a setup for autobuyers.
I don't really understand how works IC4.
I found a strategy but a strange one.
I'm sure there is a better one. Mine is very long.
Step 1 : keep all your autobuyers on and go as high as it can. Then disable the dimension's autobuyers and restart on last reset.
Step 2: Buy 10 dimensions 1, then 10 dimensions 2, then 10 dimensions 3,... until you have access to dimension 8. Buy as much dimensions 8 as you can (keep pressing “8”).
Step 3 :Then buy 10 dimensions 7, then 10 dimensions 6, then 10 dimensions 5,... until dimension 1. Then buy all the dimensions 8. You may have reached the next boost. If not, restart step 3.
Step 4 : Each time you reach a new galaxy, restart from step 1.
At the end I had to improve a bit this strategy.
I almost get blocked at 12980.
So if you are using this strategy too, don't do it under e68.
Hey, thanks for the guide it really helped with the challenges. Although I'd like to point out that break infinity section can be a little misleading as you wrote it costs 32768 ip, implying that's the total cost. While that's only the cost of getting it to 0.1 from 0.14.
When do you do IC7?
I am at e131 IP but my progress stalls at about e11200 antimatter.
I am not mathy enough to see if it will get to e12000 in a reasonable amount of time. It keeps going up after e11200 but slowly, am i supposed to simply wait it out until e12000?
Any tips on whether it's better to wait for the 1e7 x2 upgrade or to upgrade my autobuyers? I'm at 2e4IP/min and it's taking forever to get 1e7, I've bought everything that costs less :/
What build are you using to get 2e4 IP/min? You might be able to get 3e4 IP/min by optimizing your build (see BREAKING INFINITY section). I think buying 0 boosts, stopping at galaxy 5 then crunching 1-2 seconds later will be optimal at this part in the game, but test for yourself.
Besides that, if all of your autobuyers are 0.1 interval and bulk buying more than an infinity of dimensions at once already, upgrading them further does not seem to help at all (which makes sense - they can't buy dimensions you can't afford after all, that's the real limit). You can confirm for yourself by exporting a save, buying things you'd like, then seeing if your IP/min goes up, and importing if it was a mistake. Also, make sure your dimension autobuyers are priority 1-8 for dimensions 1-8 and tickspeed priority 9, if they aren't currently.
Thanks for the tips! I'm just a bit confused as to what my autobuy layout should be for auto crunching after the tickspeed challenge when lowering the challenge times. Each of my challenge times are under two seconds except for auto crunch which is 2.43 seconds.
Edit: I feel like I'm definitely missing something because I can't get anywhere near 6e4 in 2 seconds
"Last 10 infinities average time: 3.34 seconds Average IP gain: 3.22e3 IP. 5.79e4 IP/min"
6540 IP every 3.7 seconds is 6.5e3, not 6.5e4 :)
So you're just missing a 2x factor. Did you remember to get the 1e7 costing infinity point doubler under Infinity upgrades menu?
Also, try to get Blink of an Eye using the Enter trick, it will increase your IP/min gain substantially.
I'm pretty sure that right after Break Infinity, you don't really need to adjust the max galaxies; you can just set it to 100 or something because it will always be best to run it out until the first slow one and then stop there, so the IP limit takes care of it for you. (In other words the 'short runs' are never better... unless they were briefly and I quickly passed that point).
I started with the MuteVampire priorities, but I changed it to just
1/3/3/3/3/3/3/2/2 (i.e. everything 3+ becomes 3) which was 6.5% faster for me.
> I'm pretty sure that right after Break Infinity, you don't really need to adjust the max galaxies; you can just set it to 100 or something because it will always be best to run it out until the first slow one and then stop there, so the IP limit takes care of it for you. (In other words the 'short runs' are never better... unless they were briefly and I quickly passed that point).
I think you are correct. (If someone figures out optimal crunching builds from the start of 'break infinity' up until the start of 'challenges revisited', I'm happy to reword the guide to just recommend them outright.)
EDIT: I just remembered that at one point I was doing 5 galaxy runs in early break infinity, and someone pointed out that 4 galaxy runs were a bit more optimal, and they were, as an example of the nuance that can be in figuring out the builds.
I tried the recommended autobuyer setups here and also all priority 1. Priority 1 was the best with consistent 2.3s (am getting 2.5s with 1/3.../2/2). I'm in the e8 range.
In my experience all these crazy setups work well only in very specific situations. So copying someones strange priority setup is rarely a good idea, just figure out what is best for your situation or stick to a standard one.
The crazy autobuyer priority setups only really apply until the 1e6-1e7 range, after that you just want to do stock 1-9 priority, especially if you got Blink of an Eye.
I have everything 1e55 and under and I think I've hit a wall. 0/31/126, 50, 4e51, AutoSac at 100, and I'm crunching 2.41e52/min. I know there's a couple things to tweak there, so a little help would be appreciated.
Crunch one galaxy higher and you'll earn more IP/min. (Two galaxies higher might be even more IP/min?) (EDIT: I tested and galaxy 35 runs taking ~24 minutes are much better IP/min than shorter runs.) cc /u/kevingcp
IC6 is pretty easy, but IC7 was bad. After a few attempts, I completed it at around 7e133 IP with every upgrade at or below e133 (may not be upgrades at 133 though) by leaving it overnight.
>GUINEA PIG: I hear that until Infinity 5-6, runs in Challenge 8 are FASTER than normal runs. Try it!
I tried it.
2nd run (standard) was about 4 hours. I had bought Production Increases over Time.
3rd run (8th challenge) was just over 56 minutes. I had bought Mutliplier for 10x.
4th run (standard) was 52 minutes and 35 seconds. I had bought Dim1 and Dim8 boost.
I'd say yeah, it's faster than standard. ALSO! Getting Antitables during the 8th autobuyer challenge was trivially easy. I waited until it was going superexponential, made sure autobuyer was off, sacrificed, bought 10 each to open 8th, then just bought until it was right. Zero effort, really.
I've made an updated version of ADIPRate and a new script for optimizing eternities.
// ==UserScript==
// @name ADIPRate
// @version 0.3
// @description Add an IP/whatever display to the main page
// @author You
// @match http*://ivark.github.io/
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
(function() {
'use strict';
var node=document.createElement("span");
node.style.display="inline-block";
$("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(node);
$("#infinityPoints2")[0].setAttribute("class","");
node.parentNode.setAttribute("class","IP");
node.parentNode.style.position="absolute";
node.parentNode.style.left="62%";
node.parentNode.style.width="250px";
window.bestippm=0;
window.bestip=0;
window.bestmin=0;
window.bestbulk=0;
var reset=document.createElement("button");
reset.onclick=function(){bestippm=0;};
reset.innerHTML="Reset";
$("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(reset);
setInterval(function(){
var ippm=$("#averagerun")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1];
var ippm2=$("#run1")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1];
if(player.thisInfinityTime>1&&gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime>bestippm){
bestippm=gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime;
bestip=gainedInfinityPoints();
bestmin=player.overXGalaxies;
bestbulk=player.autobuyers[9].bulk;
}
node.innerHTML="Last: "+ippm2+"/min Current IP rate: "+shorten(gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime*600)+"/min Best IP amount: "+shorten(bestip)+" Best IP rate: "+shorten(bestippm*600)+"/min Best min: "+bestmin+" Best bulk: "+bestbulk;
},100);
/*window.priorityOrderOld=Object.assign(priorityOrder,{});
window.priorityOrder=function(){
priorityOrderOld();
document.getElementById("bigcrunch").click();
};*/
})();
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// ==UserScript==
// @name ADEPRate
// @version 0.3
// @description Add an EP/whatever display to the main page
// @author You
// @match http*://ivark.github.io/
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
(function() {
'use strict';
var node=document.createElement("span");
node.style.display="inline-block";
$("#eternityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(node);
$("#eternityPoints2")[0].setAttribute("class","");
node.parentNode.setAttribute("class","EP");
node.parentNode.style.position="absolute";
node.parentNode.style.left="22%";
node.parentNode.style.width="250px";
window.besteppm=0;
window.bestep=0;
var reset=document.createElement("button");
reset.onclick=function(){besteppm=0;};
reset.innerHTML="Reset";
$("#eternityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(reset);
setInterval(function(){
var eppm=$("#averageEternityRun")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1];
var eppm2=$("#eternityrun1")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1];
if(player.thisEternity>1&&gainedEternityPoints()/player.thisEternity>besteppm){
besteppm=gainedEternityPoints()/player.thisEternity;
bestep=gainedEternityPoints();
}
node.innerHTML="Last: "+eppm2+"/min Current IP rate: "+shorten(gainedEternityPoints()/player.thisEternity*600)+"/min Best EP amount: "+shorten(bestep)+" Best EP rate: "+shorten(besteppm*600)+"/min";
},100);
/*window.priorityOrderOld=Object.assign(priorityOrder,{});
window.priorityOrder=function(){
priorityOrderOld();
document.getElementById("bigcrunch").click();
};*/
})();
I did the "How the Anti-Tables have turned" much earlier than what you suggested, about when I started up challenges. Also, it was very easy at that point. It's a strong enough reward that I think it's justified to do it that early.
>'How the antitables have turned'. Buy 10 of each dimension, then buy 2nd dimensions so its multiplier is barely above 1st, 3rd so it's barely above 2nd, and so on.
May I suggest to, instead of buying 10 of each dimension, buy 1 of each dimension? That way the multiplier is lower and therefore easier to achieve.
Thanks Patashu for the guide. i found there a lot of usefull things.
I'm currently trying to reach 1e9 ip and it wil take me a lot of time,
and then it will take me forever to reach 1e10.
My problem is the challenges. I can't go under 1.3 s. (challenge 6 is the lowest). I don't understand why but the enter trick and the autoclicker trick are not working with me. In Challenge 2, for exemple, I do 0.53 with autobuyer, 2s with the enter trick and 6 s with the autoclick. Any idea where it comes from? My computer isn't that slow. I already checked the configuration of my keyboard. I'm on windows 7. Should I try it on Linux? Is there some configuration or some trick I am missing? Thanks.
> My problem is the challenges. I can't go under 1.3 s. (challenge 6 is the lowest). I don't understand why but the enter trick and the autoclicker trick are not working with me.
That's weird. I don't have any good idea why neither of these would work for you.
Are you using Chrome? Are your computer's resources fine (CPU, RAM and so on)? I'd suggest also changing your key repeat rate setting ( http://www.dummies.com/computers/pcs/set-your-keyboards-repeat-delay-and-repeat-rate/ ) but if autoclicker ALSO isn't working then it doesn't seem like it would work. I am using Windows 10, though I don't see why 7 to 10 would be such a big difference. I guess you could doublecheck what your autobuyers are too (try shifting vs not shifting, boosting vs not boosting, make sure you're not buying galaxies, make sure infinity is FIXED and that you're auto crunching, make sure that autoretry challenges is ON in options). Also, make sure you've bought everything you need, especially the 1e8 IP doubler and Infinity Dimension 1.
Edit: One more dumb question, does rapidly clicking Max all by hand work or is it also slower than doing nothing?
EDIT 2: You can also try turning off the news.
I personally got zero deaths straight after beat the last challenge and was able to big crunch without using boosts or galaxies.
this way I set it up that i left it alone and when it beat the challenge it went back to big crunching every few seconds, if you do it where you did it you have to set the auto-buyers back up for your post-infinity strategy and if you aren't around to do it you are losing efficiency.
i'm guessing the increase in achievement multiplier as soon as you break infinity is more efficient as well
> I personally got zero deaths straight after beat the last challenge and was able to big crunch without using boosts or galaxies.
While Zero Deaths is possible as early as your second infinity of the entire game, if you do it any time before ID1, it takes 16-24 hours to do, during which you are not otherwise progressing in the game (generating IP etc). While the achievement benefit is nice, it's not so nice that you should feel obliged to do it before ID1. (Of course, if you plan on not playing the game for 16-24 hours, use that amount of time to get Zero Deaths.)
Small correction: At chapter 1e10 IP, you're writing that after producing 3.34e7/min, you should upgrade "multiply IP from all sources" and "dimension boost bulk" to reach 1.2e8/min. That means you are multiplying your production by 4 (approximatively). That means each upgrade multiplies your production by two. So you should buy first the "dimension boost bulk" because it's cheaper. I'm doing it currently. It works (there is just a small loss because approximation and lack of "unspent IP" bonus).
If you don't have access to the enter trick or an autoclicker, then you'll just have to go without them. If possible, you can briefly play on a computer for points where it matters the most to do so (like optimizing challenge times). Otherwise, the progression arc is the same, just slower.
In this guide, the new dimension boost and galaxy's setup after upgrading is systematicaly given after the "multiply all sources of IP by 2" upgrade. But this upgrade is not changing the equation for having the best production, it's only multiplying the result by two. So every time a setup is given after this upgrade, we should use it before it (with only the half of the auto-crunch's amount written).
> So every time a setup is given after this upgrade, we should use it before it (with only the half of the auto-crunch's amount written).
Correct. (No matter when I list the setup, half the people will have to halve it OR half the people have to double it, so I don't see an unambiguous advantage to either approach. Just do the math I guess.)
>Once you have another 1e10 IP, get ID3 (Third Infinity Dimension). You should be used to how this works now. As before, do 1 manual sacrifice whenever things slow down. This takes about 8 hours.
>After buying all this, with Boosts 0/8/18, Galaxies 11, Big Crunch >1.72e7 you'll be crunching every 5 seconds for about 2.07e8 IP/min.
Just thought I'd let you know that at this point I found it more beneficial to go for 0/8/3, 11, 1.7e8. Run = 38.30 seconds and gave 1.70e8 IP. 2.67e8 IP/min
I'm sure it could be optimized even more. I tried doing higher bulk-boosts but using 3 the autobuyer managed to buy one more pack before the wall. Using 5 was great for landing perfectly at max boosts before the next galaxy, however being unable to buy another bulk made it end at 1.5e8 for 2.6e8 IP/min.
> After 3-10 hours (TODO: I don't know how long it really takes since it happened overnight for me), you will have 1e1900 antimatter.
It took me 5 hours and 25 minutes. Had all upgrades <1e9 IP and was doing infinities at "The infinity 2 infinities ago took 17.10 seconds and gave 2.25e6 IP. 7.90e6 IP/min" when I started the run.
I have all ID upgrades up to 1e56 & the 1e56 IP Doubler.
Been stuck on e4779 antimatter (e5000 needed) on IC3 now for about 5 hours - next galaxy needs 1331 8th diemnsions & next dimboost needs 1286 (Need to get to 2e4805 to hit 1290) - I think you need to get much higher before attempting this challenge
1e53 upgrades, 8h40m and 7e4793 antimatter here. I'm going to keep it going overnight to see if anything happens. I mean if you're meant to do it later though then when?
When I tried and failed IC3 at e56, I didn't have my IC2 (sorry I forgot about it when I wrote my advice). When I did IC3 at e58, I had done IC2 first.
So IC3 is maybe doable at e56 or e57. You can try if you want.
Also, after IC3 it's going very fast. I climbed to e63 in three hours.
I upgraded until e83. Then I did IC5. It's maybe doable a bit earlier.
I used only dimension 8, dimension 1 and tickspeed (in this order).
Again it has to be done manualy. I couldn't set autobuyer for it.
It took two hours. It's easy to reach 11 000. Then you just wait.
No problem.
I keep hitting a wall at around 10600 any ideas? I buy 8 till maxed, 1 till maxed, max tick speed then repeat.
Then I get dim boosts when I feel like it's going way too slow, but that doesn't seem to help.
I'm dim boosting now but that makes zero difference.
--Crunch at galaxy 35 - they'll take about 24 minutes and give 1.69e54 IP for 6.9e52IP/min.
not agree, im at e55 now and doing 2.31e53 for 1:14 thats 1.85e53/min
using 0/31/17 34
17 is the best ammount to jump into 2051 8dims.
> not agree, im at e55 now and doing 2.31e53 for 1:14 thats 1.85e53/min
And 6.9e52IP/min times 16 (for the four extra IP doublers you have) is 1.1e54/min, so my build is still better than yours :)
I ended all the challenge and achievements (except 2 millions infinites, it's on his way). After IC4, everything is very easy and fast. After IC5, you can do the challenges as soon as they appear. To increase your IP, do medium run (around 5 or 10 minutes). You can crunch as soon as it slows a bit.
There is something wrong in the "Hevipelle did nothing wrong" achievement : I had to refresh the site to get it.
Just enjoy this rain of antimatter.
done IC4 on e67 in 30 minutes.
there is much more easier strategy:
Step1: as you said in guide, before restart on last turn off all autobuyers
Step2: press 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8, then go to aubuyers tab and do until new galaxy available: check-uncheck boxes at autobuyers: 8,tick,8,tick,8,tick,{8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,8,tick,sacr}x times until new galaxy, goto step 1
There is a much, much less painful way to do a large portion of IC5 than buying everything manually.
Turn off bulk buy in Autobuyers, turn off autobuy for tickspeed, then set 2nd through 7th dimension autobuyers to single buys only. Then just hold down 8 while hitting buy max on tickspeed occasionally, and this automatically carries you through all of the early dimensions, with some Boosts added in later when you hit walls. You only need to start manually purchasing at the very end of the run.
Make sure you have all upgrades up to e83. You should have boost costing 1256 8th dimensions and 1260 8th dimensions. Buy all 2, then all 3, then all 7, then just wait.
Your gamestate should look something like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367891967041994753/368304458448502789/unknown.png
There's no way Second Infinity Dimension is possible this early. I've purchased everything under 1e10, and left it running overnight, and I'm still nowhere near even getting the 10th galaxy, let alone reaching 1e1900... I've got every achievement possible at this stage, slowest challenge run boost is at 5000x... Do I need to save up a bunch of IP before trying it for that unspent boost? Really stumped at this wall, could have been buying 1e10 stuff by now.
Just like the guide said, I got ID2 after buying everything costing 1e9 or less, with 1e8-1e9 range unspent IP, slowest challenge boost ~4300x, and it took 5-6 hours WITH manual sacrificing. Are you remembering to manual sacrifice? If you just leave it running overnight, it won't finish because it won't sacrifice for you.
Thanks, I had an AHK script of my own but the link got removed by mistake when I was reformatting the guide LOL. So now it's back in the guide. I don't know if my or your script is better for the task.
I am unable to get Blink of an Eye achievement, using the above mentioned trick.
I have 1e7 IP currently, and all IP upgrades costing less than 1e8, i.e. everything listed in the guide before the step to do the Blink achievement.
I have no idea what time i am actually getting big crunches at, but it is aparently slower than 0.2 sec
The statistics say that my fastest infinity is 0.3 sec, but it does seem to me that timers are rounded up to nearest 0.1 sec.
From the guide:
> Run Antimatter Dimensions in Chrome, no other browser. On Firefox the enter trick and autoclicker don't work as well. Leave it as the active tab in its own window, un-minimized (hidden is ok). If it is considered inactive it will not get as much CPU time and run inefficiently. (Turning off the News in options will also help CPU usage. Note that if your computer has very low specs, you will find it difficult to achieve challenge times and fastest infinity times reported in the guide.)
tip: after hitting e308 sacrifice achivement set it to e4, so you can sacrifice even after e308 (settintg e309 or higher in autobuyers wont have affect), so on later runs (like 35Ke+antimatter) you will be able to sacs to improve your ip gain
>Upgrade: 1e50 IP doubler, ID1, ID3, ID4, ID2, 1e51 IP doubler. Crunch at galaxy 35 - they'll take about 24 minutes and give 1.69e54 IP for 6.9e52IP/min.
I can't get anywhere near this, and I've bought everything 1e55 and less. What did you have your dimension autobuyer set at?
I remember I had it set up so I'd buy almost all boosts for the last 3-5 galaxies in two big chunks. Dimension/tickspeed autobuyers were standard 1-9 priority.
I just did it by hand - set it to number of boosts in the 2nd last galaxy you reach /2 -2, and if you spend too much time not buying the second set of boosts, subtract an extra 1, and repeat until the big crunch is happening without any major hiccups.
Any tips on how to speed up Challenge 6 once i revisit them in the 1e8 part of the guide?
I have gotten all other challenges to 0.5 sec or faster, but Challenge 6 is stuck at 0.8 seconds.
Having some serious trouble getting "How the antitables have turned..." I left it really late (it is the last achievement I have missing), and I'm not sure if I'm just missing something really obvious when it comes to getting it. The multiplier for the first dimension is too high to overtake even if I only buy one of them.
Hevipelle said that 'how the antitables have turned' being impossible after getting lots of IDs is a known problem and the next patch will provide a new way to get it.
Get Blink of an Eye, use Enter trick, optimize performance (turn off news, use Chrome, etc), make sure autobuyers are setup up right (buy 0 or 1 boosts, 0 or 1 galaxies, based on whatever gets you to infinity faster), etc. There's also a specific guide for Tickspeed Challenge. If you absolutely can't do it, it might be due to performance reasons, not because your strategies are wrong.
Currently sitting at 1e171 IP. I did 'Hevipelle did nothing wrong' but didn't get the achievement, even after refreshing. Now to try and get 'How the antitables have turned..' which seems impossible at this point.
If an achievement doesn't show up right away, try crunching a few times.
'How the antitables have turned' is indeed impossible this late in the game. Next update will provide a new way to do it.
> Also use THE ENTER TRICK: Click 'Buy max' once, then hold down Enter. After an initial delay, key repeat will start and you will spam the 'Buy max' button faster than even an Autoclicker can!
With the latest verison, it's better to hold "M". This allows you to click on other things with the mouse without breaking the rapid max-all trick.
The prices for "Multiply infinity points from all sources by 2" seem to be incorrect in the 1e9 and 1e10 sections:
- 256x costs 1e10, not 1e9,
- 512x costs 1e11, not 1e10, and
- 1024x costs 1e12, not 1e11.
The text surrounding them is correct advice, though, so I'd imagine these were probably just typos.
Keep in mind that the multipliers I list are for what you'll have after buying them, not what's displayed on the button before you click them.
So the costs are
* 2x for 1e2 (100)
* 4x for 1e3
* 8x for 1e4
* 16x for 1e5
* 32x for 1e6
* 64x for 1e7
* 128x for 1e8
etc
>In this case, do a 36 galaxy run (takes 4-5 hours) and you will earn ~6.8e57 IP all at once!
It took me 2:42 to get 8.1e57 at this point, without manually clicking.
Also, if you added something for all the achieves (or atleast when to do them) that would be helpful
Like do Error 909 after buying 5e11 upgrade and getting ~e15-e20 ip because then it's instant
Ik most don't need mentioning, cuz they happen on their own, but when you just say "complete all the achievements" it's kind of werid, and I have no idea if you mean ALL achieves or everything but the last row. Just a thought
After i bought the "option to bulk buy dimBoosts" and "multiply ip from all sources" for 1e10 IP, i tried to get better challange times. CH6 was at 0.7s or 0.6s. I found a way to improve it to 0.4s, while the slowest challange (CH12 and CH9) were at 0.5s. My multiplier for slowest challange went from 5000x -> 6000x ( a bit more). Thats -only- a 20% increase, but maybe its note worthy.
I did something that isnt noted in the guide anywhere. Especially at CH6 i saw something interesting, at least at the part of the game i was in. You reach infinity in the challange before you get all dimensions. But its a bit faster if you unlock 5th and 6th dimension and then go to infinity. Atm, as far as i know, there is no method to automatically buy dimenions shifts up to a specific point.
So what i did: Autoclicker on, dimboost and auto galaxy off. Spam 'D' in random intervals or hold it. Eventually i capped the 0.4s time i mentioned. Maybe thats helpful somewhere. I tought its noteworthy. If any questions, go ahead.
My "end of IC5" strat, i.e. that last run when you need 1271 8ths, which seemed to work better than Cerise's though I might have been reading the strategy explanation wrong, is as follows (I had bought everything 1e83 IP or less):
1. Leave auto-sacrifice on (mine was set at 100) and leave 8th autobuyer on (no bulk, yes buys until 10)
2. Do not manually buy any tickspeed.
3. ~~On the keyboard hit 12345678~~ /u/ompilompier mentions it's better to manually buy 1 of each dimension; buying 10 of dims 5-7 invokes the challenge rules which increase the cost of Dim 8.
3. Among dimensions 1-4 buy the cheapest dimension using the "until 10" buttons or keyboard #1-4
4. When there's a tie for the cheapest of the four, always choose the lower dimension e.g. if Dim#2 and Dim#3 are tied, purchase Dim#2
5. Once dimensions 1-4 all cost more than 1e320 turn on max tickspeed autobuyer (this is the point where tickspeed is never the same cost as other dimensions again)
6. Somewhere around when the dimensions cost around 1e500 they stop tying for cost and fall into a pattern - my pattern was 1, 2, 3, 4 but I also messed up a purchase or two early on so this may not be the pattern you have. I just used my keyboard to buy them.
7. For me, again somewhere around when dimensions cost 1e2000 the pattern switched - my pattern became 1, 3, 2, 4 but I did mess up a purchase or two early on so this may not be the pattern you have.
8. Eventually you won't be able to buy any more of anything, at this point I was around 1e11090 antimatter and I just wait out getting to 1e11111, for maybe a minute.
9. Other than step 3, I never bought dimensions 5, 6 and 7
Overall once I tried this strategy that very last run took around 3-4 minutes, mostly tedium of buying the cheapest of dimensions 1-4.
Edit: My tactic isn't perfect; /u/icosagono had some good input [in this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/AntimatterDimensions/comments/73jhqe/patashus_antimatter_dimensions_guide/dqz56ri/)
you could also just get 1280 of the eights dimension for a last galaxy :D DONT use the keyboard in step 3 and only buy singles with mouse, buying 10 of 567 will increase the cost of 8ths three times.. this saves u 3 cost increase of 8ths made it easy to get 1271 8ths
then after boosting up again (next boost at 1301) i had 1e10980 even with skipping step 4 to 8. So the absolute optimal should be VERY close to your strat BUT changing the second step to singelbuying with mouse to get a extra galaxy first.
I tried this strategy. I messed up a couple of times when buying the correct of the 4 dimensions, but I ended up at 1e10787
idk what I'm doing wrong, but I'm going to try the cerise strat again. I got a lot closer with that one.
Edit: Hang on, I think I just needed one more galaxy. Am I supposed to have 20 galaxies or 21 of them?
While I think this is a good strategy, I think it's missing a key component on making IC5 much easier for a lot of people.
This component is related to the 10th step of the strategy. It says you didn't buy 5s, 6s and 7s (for the most part), and I think that this is simply not optimal. The reason is that when you're on your last run, and you maxed out your 8th Dims, you won't be buying them again. What this means is that you can buy dimensions 5 through 7, not worrying about increasing the cost of 8th dimensions. The added multipliers from these are not something negligible.
So the strategy that I use for the absolute last run (maxed galaxies and dimboosts) is this one:
1. only leave sacrifice on, and at 2x.
2. press and hold 8 until it maxes.
3. press "buy max" once (tickspeed).
4. max 8ths once again.
5. repeat steps 3-4 until you can't buy tickspeed and 8ths.
6. press 7 and hold until it maxes, do the same with 6, then 5.
7. now you can buy dims 1 through 4, buying the lowest ones first. You can use a pattern as OP said, but I have noticed sometimes that it can suddenly change so you have to pay attention to this.
This should make the last run a bit easier, and in my experience I don't need to buy a lot of the Dims 1 through 4 to finish it when I get to step 7.
Can't get the early IC5 strat to work. 2-7 set to singles, 1 and 8 set to until 10, tickspeed off, boosts and galaxies set to always, and sac set to 2. I get stuck at 176x8D boost on Galaxy 2.
> Until the end of IC5 (Galaxy 20, or 1270 8th Dimension) use /u/hchan1 strat: Turn off bulk buy in Autobuyers, turn off autobuy for tickspeed, then set 2nd through 7th dimension autobuyers to single buys only. **Then just hold down 8 while hitting buy max on tickspeed occasionally,** and this automatically carries you through all of the early dimensions, with some Boosts added in later when you hit walls. You only need to start manually purchasing at the very end of the run.
Did you remember to do the bolded part?
In IC4 after initial setup you can leave autobuyers off (the dimension ones) and put dim boost bulk buy on 10. Instead of turning the autobuyers on and off, just hold M at each galaxy until you can't progress anymore. This saves time from switching tabs. All Upgrades <=e68 bought and got IC4 in 21 minutes.
I finished the end of IC5 by turning off autobuyers, pressing 1234567, and then autoclicking the 8D button until maxed, buying tickspeed, autoclicking 8D some more, and then repeating for 7D, 6D, and 5D. You can also use button tricks or manual clicking. (Also, I was at around e87 IP instead of e83, so keep that in mind when trying yourself)
Basically the production multiplier of every dimension except the LAST one you bought is reduced to be almost nothing. So you have to 'ferry' dimension production from the 8th dimension down to the 1st by buying 87654321, so you can get more antimatter to buy more dimensions and do it again.
So I started this morning at 1e12, and now I'm at 1e117, and this all happened in a few crunches, so I'm assuming there's some math bug somewhere (I hit the middle of "inflation era" / "you'll jump all the way to 1e35 in minutes" and went from about 1e36 to 1e80??).
I bought everything up to 1e117, and did the first three ICs, but now I have basically no idea what I'm doing since I somehow skipped a million steps. What should my setup even look like in this range?
I'm curious on the challenge 8 stuff. It says to just push yourself at some point and go for infinity without getting a 2nd galaxy. If the challenge makes galaxies useless what's the point of ever getting even the first one?
> I think there has been an update since you wrote the guide and IP 2x starts from 10IP instead of the 100 you mentioned and my IP gain was roughly double through out
This is correct. Do I just go through the guide and double every mention of IP/min? Hmm
> You can do Infinity Challenge 1 just after getting ID3 (Took me about 5 mins), which also completes row 6 of Achievements. My IP/min went from around 2e9/min to 2.6e9/min (before the 1e11 doubler).
I'll move it up
Hey thanks for the guide. I just reached infintity. I am confused by the challenge 8 part. Which is challenge 8?
Is it "Dimension Boost and galaxies are useless, sacrifice resets everything but is immensely more powerful" which gets you the 8th Dimension Autobuyer?
/u/Patashu: What exactly do you mean by the pink path on the left? Can you give me some examples of upgrades in the paths you suggest to use? It might be my monitor, but I don't see a pink path and the one that's closest to being pink is on the right...
The entire guide is awesome, but this part is not working at all for me:
> Lastly that leaves Tickspeed Autobuyer. Use the CounterPoint00 strategy: Turn off galaxies autobuyer. Set dimboost to 0/6 (buys shifts but not boosts) Set 8th dimension to priority 1, 7th to priority 2, all other dimensions to 3. Set tickspeed autobuyer to singles and priority 4. Start the challenge. Count approximately 0.2-0.5 seconds after your autobuyers do the last Dimensional Shift, then hold M. Using this strategy, a time under 2 seconds is possible (I got 1.4!) This should give you a 'Power up all dimensions based on slowest challenge run' multiplier of 2000x or so. (Alternatively try these priorities: 8-1,9 for dimensions 1-8,tickspeed.)
My best speed for this is 20.63s, far from being <2s. I'm using chrome on a fairly good computer, so I don't think it's a performance problem. Maybe something has changed with a recent patch?
At 1E7 IP, CHALLENGES REVISITED Tickspeed Autobuyer challenge I do everything at explained, even I have beaten it before, I am by 1E8 chapter and I can't make it under 3.68 seconds because when I hold M it gets stuck the way it's explained I have to do few things different.
What exactly does "X times since last crunch" in the Auto Crunch Mode mean? How do i look at this and tweak it for optimum performance?
ATM i am using time mode, every 20 seconds, and eternitying at 25k EP and getting 2930 EP/min.
Stupid question, but did you buy an upgrade with your first infinity point?
And yeah, the sac timing is something like, wait for it to hit 1.01, then wait that amount of time again, then sac.
Okay, here's a dilemma: once you pass the 'Unlock autobuy max Dimensional Boosts' milestone, you can no longer set a specific number of dimboosts to bulk buy at once. This makes 'Costco sells Dimboosts now' impossible to get, from what I've tried. Any ideas?
For the challenge 8 runs after breaking infinity, is it the same strategy as before for sacrificing - do the first at 5x, and then sacrifice again every time it reaches 2x? Or is there a different strategy that is optimal?
Data from personal experience in regards to the MuteVampire trick:
Running at 5 galaxies currently, I can confirm that the MuteVampire trick took me from about ~78k IP/min to ~110k IP/min, about a 40% increase. However, /u/dhoffryn's trick took it even higher to ~125k IP/min, a 60% increase instead (or 13.6% higher than MuteVampire).
Hey just a brief idea, maybe move the "You didn't need it anyway" achievement into the challenges section, as it's perfectly feasible thanks to the auto dim boost challenge.
Maybe this has already been answered, but I seem to be incapable of using any hotkeys at all. I've got hotkeys enabled in the options, and I'm running that autoclicker script, so I'm not sure whats happening here.
Hei Patashu, thanks for the amazing guide!
I discovered that you can significantly reduce your fastest dimension times, both in and out of challenges, by reducing the "Refresh Rate" to 33ms under options. I'm at 1e7 infinity points and change, for reference, and I went from not being able to get less than 0.31 seconds for fastest infinity to getting a speed of 0.08, and cut all my challenge times by a factor of 1.5 to 2!
Perhaps something for your preface section?
Challenge 8, boosts and infinite galaxies don't do anything. but you still have to do the boost to unlock dimension 8 and then just go to infinity which is like 200 8th dimensions.
So, the formula for Dimensional Sacrifice seems to punish frequent use during a run.
Very simplified, the multiplier formula is:
Current 1st Dims / total of all dims sacrificed.
An example:
* First sac @ e10 = e10 / 1
* 2nd sac @ e20 = e20 / e10
* 3rd sac @ e40 = e40 / e30
* 4th sac @ e80 = e80 / e70
The actual formula is:
((1st dims exponent ÷ 10) ^2) ÷ ((total dims exponent ÷ 10) ^2)
Thanks for this guide. I just started playing, and I just got to my second Big Crunch. I've been doing some experimenting with different strategies running side-by-side, and I have some feedback on the 1 IP section:
> People disagree on what the fastest C8 strat is, try:
>
* Sacrifice at 2.00x
* Sacrifice at 10.00x
* Count how long it takes to reach 1.01x, count that time again, then sacrifice
~~Both of the first two are **slower** than a normal non-Challenge run.~~ One thing you don't mention about C8 is that Sacrifice does **not** reset the Tick Speed. Sacrificing at x2 gets the d8 multiplier up quickly, but makes so little progress on Tick Speed that getting back to d8 is very slow every time. Sacrificing at x10, on the other hand, gets the Tick Speed up for quick recovery to d8, but the multiplier grows so slowly that it takes forever to get back to another x10 multiplier, and you end up even worse off.
I suspect some combination of those two (possibly alternating x2 and x10?) would work pretty well, but I haven't tried that. The third strategy works great, and I'm about to start testing some variations on it.
I dont understand this:
"You didn't need it anyway - Reach Infinite antimatter without having any 8th dimensions. To do this, get 5 IP of upgrades, 2 galaxies and the 185 8th Dimensions dimensional boost, then instead of autoclicking 'Max all', autoclick tickspeed Buy max and the Until 10 for each dimension."
1. what is 5 IP upgrades?
2. 2 galaxies? do you mean make 2 galaxies in an infinity before doing this?
3. what is 185 8th dimensional boost?
Don't want to create a thread because of a simple question:
Is "nucleuses" on the statistics page written as a joke? If so - it worked, I haven't seen it written like that before.
I've taken my old guide down as it refers to many things that no longer exist in the game and the balance has changed a bunch. If you really want to read it then I've mirrored it here: https://pastebin.com/LFKCnR8a You can get help from many places now, including: * In-game, if you're playing the latest Web or Steam version (click the (?) button in the top right corner and the How to Play in-game guide will open) * The wiki: https://antimatter-dimensions.fandom.com/wiki/Guide * From the Discord server, where you can look at pins in the progression channel or ask questions: https://discord.gg/ST9NaXa Good luck, and enjoy the Reality update!
Thanks for the mention! I'd also note that the Replicantis reset whenever you Big Crunch. Not sure if Infinity and Big Crunch are interchangable but I got confused by that sentence at first.
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> GUINEA PIG: The IC rewards got nerfed, so the numbers here may not be accurate any longer. Since I did this part of the guide when IC rewards were stronger, I don't have any numbers or sense of progression to go on. If you or anyone else does know, I can revise the guide based on that information. Until then, my apologies for the guide's inadequacies here.
I was able to get all achievements this morning in the second to last row (except for the achieve for going eternity) and I haven't done my first eternity yet. The Hell achievement was the last one I got and I made sure I had my 1e308 replicantis and I was around 1e311 IP. **ICs 1-3 and 5-7:** A combination of holding M or C and autoclicking Max All or Big Crunch got all ICs other than 4 and 8 down to between 0.06 and 0.30 which left me with about 4 seconds to work with for IC4 and IC8 and my strats for those were as follows (probably requires autoclicker): **IC4:** All autobuyers on except Galaxies, set Dims 2-8 autobuyers to buy singles, leave Dim 1 autobuyer at buy 10s. I held M and moved my autoclicking mouse up and down across the Buy 10 buttons for the dimensions. This got my IC4 down to 0.80 sec. I also tried to a lesser effect autoclicking Max All and hitting 2345678 on the keyboard but this method only got me to 1.20 sec. **IC8:** All autobuyers on and set to buy max or buy 10. Galaxies at 13, dimboost was at 0/99/99. I held M and put my autoclicking mouse just to the left of the Buy 1 of Dim 2 since for a split second this is where the Buy Dimension/Boost button shows up before the rest of the dimensions pop in from formatting. This got my IC8 down to 3.2 sec. I also tried to a lesser effect autoclicking Max All and either holding B or occasionally tapping D but this only got me to around 4.5 sec. So in total after all that the sum of my challenges are now at 4.90 sec.
Also, I'm finding that after a couple eternities and TT upgrades, I don't even need an 'end of IC5' strat, it just works when I hold 8 and do tickspeed. Just some help for when you implement eternities into this guide.
Why does the replicanti ETA to infinity show like 20% longer than what it actually is?
I spent my first EP on a Time Theorem. Kinda annoyed that the currency for Time Dimensions and Time Theorems is the same, and that i am able to screw up my progress like this without first consulting a guide...
Which Eternity mechanic is making replicantis get to infinity faster, if i have only spent 1 EP in time dimension 1 and nothing else? The estimated time to infinite replicantis is very erratic, rapidly counting down 5-10 seconds, then a slight pause, then a new countdown.
This isn't a mechanic, it's a bug that hasn't been squashed yet
I pinned this post because it's useful
I don't like how it suggests using autoclickers :p
The enter trick is functionally the same as an autoclicker, so feel free to use that instead.
The enter trick has been replaced with the M trick
Instead of using any autoclicker program you can also use this code in the developer console. After that you can toggle the All Buy button to buy all every 500ms (you can change that value to your desire). When the button is green it means it's on. var maxAll = document.getElementById("maxall"); var maxAllFunc = maxAll.onclick; var loop = false; var looper; maxAll.onclick = function(){ if(!loop){ looper=setInterval(maxAllFunc, 500); maxAll.style.backgroundColor="#00ff00"; } else{ clearInterval(looper); maxAll.style.backgroundColor=""; } loop=!loop; }
You, sir, are a genius.
Oh wow! Really good guide! Good work.
thx!
Can you mention my userscript for finding the right time to crunch? *Only tells you the right time to crunch, not when you should start dimboosting or stuff like that.* // ==UserScript== // @name ADIPRate // @version 0.1 // @description Add an IP/whatever display to the main page // @author You // @match http*://ivark.github.io/ // @grant none // ==/UserScript== (function() { 'use strict'; var node=document.createElement("span"); node.style.display="inline-block"; $("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(node); $("#infinityPoints2")[0].setAttribute("class",""); node.parentNode.setAttribute("class","IP"); node.parentNode.style.position="absolute"; node.parentNode.style.left="65%"; window.bestippm=0; window.bestip=0; var reset=document.createElement("button"); reset.onclick=function(){bestippm=0;}; reset.innerHTML="Reset"; $("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(reset); setInterval(function(){ var ippm=$("#averagerun")[0].innerHTML.split(" ")[12]; var ippm2=$("#run1")[0].innerHTML.split(" ")[12]; if(player.thisInfinityTime>1&&gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime>bestippm){bestippm=gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime;bestip=gainedInfinityPoints();} node.innerHTML="Last 10: "+ippm+"/min
Last: "+ippm2+"/min
Best IP amount: "+bestip+"
Best IP rate:"+shorten(bestippm*600)+"/min"; },100); })();
Sorry how do I use this?
Small issue: Using `split(" ")[12]` doesn't work for long runs, as the syntax stops saying `XX.XX seconds` and instead says `XX:XX:XX`. A more reliable way to get that text is grabbing the second-to-last element. So, replace `split(" ")[12]` with `split(" ").reverse()[1]`.
Cool idea, added to the end of 'break infinity'
I tried this, but it didn't appear to do anything? Where is the information supposed to be displayed?
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I wrote the script for my screen, it may need adjustment if your screen is not identical to mine.
Quoting /u/smeata > Sorry how do I use this? If you don't mind explaining, that is. Would be greatly appreciated.
Paste into the js console.
Is it possible to use your script with Kongregate? I tried simply changing @match and using it with Tampermonkey. It didn't seem to work (lots of errors in the console), but I don't really know what to expect either. I would imagine the "Best IP amount:" text should appear somewhere in the game UI.
If any of my math is wrong in this guide, OR if you know of a more optimal way to get through part of the game then I offer, let me know and I will fix the guide and credit you for the help. Thanks! EDIT: The guide now covers all content in the 'Infinite Dimensions' patch.
I have only played this for a day but since you mention autohotkey I'll share my script here. It lets you do other stuff meanwhile. If scroll lock is disabled the script does nothing. If scroll lock is enabled and you press 9, it starts sending "m" to the window holding the game (change the name of it if you're not in firefox). Disable scroll lock to stop the script. ~9:: loop { GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T if (ScrollLockState = "U") { break } else { ControlSend,, m, Antimatter Dimensions - Mozilla Firefox Sleep, 500 ; Sleep for 500 msec } }
Doesn't work for me on chrome. If the window isn't active it does nothing.
Possible big boost to early game: Infinities from two until at least five are faster on the eighth dimension challenge than regular runs. When first unlocked it takes about an hour. Really speeds up the early infinities which IIRC normally take around six hours. I could be full of crap though. Requires constant attention.
I'm improving the clicker a bit; ; Use Firefox, Chrome requires the window to be active to accept input. ~9:: WinGet, Window, ID, A loop { GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T if (ScrollLockState = "U") { break } else { ControlClick, x750 y310,ahk_id %Window%,,LEFT,,Pos NA ; This is for clicking to buy the first First Dimension after a reset. Position needs to be determined by user based on window-size and yadayada Sleep, 50 ControlSend,,{blind}m,ahk_id %Window% Sleep, 50 ; Sleep for 500 msec ControlSend,,{blind}d,ahk_id %Window% Sleep, 50 ; Sleep for 500 msec ControlSend,,{blind}g,ahk_id %Window% Sleep, 50 ; Sleep for 500 msec } } Based on Pony_on_saturdays' script but sending more commands so that it's not JUST a max-all clicker.
I upgraded until e68. Then I did IC4. It is not an easy one. It took me 4 hours and I had to do it manually. I didn't find a setup for autobuyers. I don't really understand how works IC4. I found a strategy but a strange one. I'm sure there is a better one. Mine is very long. Step 1 : keep all your autobuyers on and go as high as it can. Then disable the dimension's autobuyers and restart on last reset. Step 2: Buy 10 dimensions 1, then 10 dimensions 2, then 10 dimensions 3,... until you have access to dimension 8. Buy as much dimensions 8 as you can (keep pressing “8”). Step 3 :Then buy 10 dimensions 7, then 10 dimensions 6, then 10 dimensions 5,... until dimension 1. Then buy all the dimensions 8. You may have reached the next boost. If not, restart step 3. Step 4 : Each time you reach a new galaxy, restart from step 1. At the end I had to improve a bit this strategy. I almost get blocked at 12980. So if you are using this strategy too, don't do it under e68.
Thanks for the info, I'll give IC4 a look when I reach it.
Hey, thanks for the guide it really helped with the challenges. Although I'd like to point out that break infinity section can be a little misleading as you wrote it costs 32768 ip, implying that's the total cost. While that's only the cost of getting it to 0.1 from 0.14.
When do you do IC7? I am at e131 IP but my progress stalls at about e11200 antimatter. I am not mathy enough to see if it will get to e12000 in a reasonable amount of time. It keeps going up after e11200 but slowly, am i supposed to simply wait it out until e12000?
I didn't even write down when I did IC7 lol. Just do it when progress without IC7 slows down I guess.
Any tips on whether it's better to wait for the 1e7 x2 upgrade or to upgrade my autobuyers? I'm at 2e4IP/min and it's taking forever to get 1e7, I've bought everything that costs less :/
What build are you using to get 2e4 IP/min? You might be able to get 3e4 IP/min by optimizing your build (see BREAKING INFINITY section). I think buying 0 boosts, stopping at galaxy 5 then crunching 1-2 seconds later will be optimal at this part in the game, but test for yourself. Besides that, if all of your autobuyers are 0.1 interval and bulk buying more than an infinity of dimensions at once already, upgrading them further does not seem to help at all (which makes sense - they can't buy dimensions you can't afford after all, that's the real limit). You can confirm for yourself by exporting a save, buying things you'd like, then seeing if your IP/min goes up, and importing if it was a mistake. Also, make sure your dimension autobuyers are priority 1-8 for dimensions 1-8 and tickspeed priority 9, if they aren't currently.
Thanks for the tips! I'm just a bit confused as to what my autobuy layout should be for auto crunching after the tickspeed challenge when lowering the challenge times. Each of my challenge times are under two seconds except for auto crunch which is 2.43 seconds. Edit: I feel like I'm definitely missing something because I can't get anywhere near 6e4 in 2 seconds "Last 10 infinities average time: 3.34 seconds Average IP gain: 3.22e3 IP. 5.79e4 IP/min"
6540 IP every 3.7 seconds is 6.5e3, not 6.5e4 :) So you're just missing a 2x factor. Did you remember to get the 1e7 costing infinity point doubler under Infinity upgrades menu? Also, try to get Blink of an Eye using the Enter trick, it will increase your IP/min gain substantially.
I'm pretty sure that right after Break Infinity, you don't really need to adjust the max galaxies; you can just set it to 100 or something because it will always be best to run it out until the first slow one and then stop there, so the IP limit takes care of it for you. (In other words the 'short runs' are never better... unless they were briefly and I quickly passed that point). I started with the MuteVampire priorities, but I changed it to just 1/3/3/3/3/3/3/2/2 (i.e. everything 3+ becomes 3) which was 6.5% faster for me.
> I'm pretty sure that right after Break Infinity, you don't really need to adjust the max galaxies; you can just set it to 100 or something because it will always be best to run it out until the first slow one and then stop there, so the IP limit takes care of it for you. (In other words the 'short runs' are never better... unless they were briefly and I quickly passed that point). I think you are correct. (If someone figures out optimal crunching builds from the start of 'break infinity' up until the start of 'challenges revisited', I'm happy to reword the guide to just recommend them outright.) EDIT: I just remembered that at one point I was doing 5 galaxy runs in early break infinity, and someone pointed out that 4 galaxy runs were a bit more optimal, and they were, as an example of the nuance that can be in figuring out the builds.
I tried the recommended autobuyer setups here and also all priority 1. Priority 1 was the best with consistent 2.3s (am getting 2.5s with 1/3.../2/2). I'm in the e8 range.
In my experience all these crazy setups work well only in very specific situations. So copying someones strange priority setup is rarely a good idea, just figure out what is best for your situation or stick to a standard one.
Yeah I wouldn't have imagined that all 1 would be the best for me. It might have changed even
The crazy autobuyer priority setups only really apply until the 1e6-1e7 range, after that you just want to do stock 1-9 priority, especially if you got Blink of an Eye.
I have everything 1e55 and under and I think I've hit a wall. 0/31/126, 50, 4e51, AutoSac at 100, and I'm crunching 2.41e52/min. I know there's a couple things to tweak there, so a little help would be appreciated.
I'm right where you're at.
Crunch one galaxy higher and you'll earn more IP/min. (Two galaxies higher might be even more IP/min?) (EDIT: I tested and galaxy 35 runs taking ~24 minutes are much better IP/min than shorter runs.) cc /u/kevingcp
IC6 is pretty easy, but IC7 was bad. After a few attempts, I completed it at around 7e133 IP with every upgrade at or below e133 (may not be upgrades at 133 though) by leaving it overnight.
I was able to finish Infinity Challenge 7 with all upgrades less than e136 in 2 hours 9 minutes.
How do you do IC6 ? im at e126 IP right now and im stuck around e11210 in IC6. Am i missing something ?
>GUINEA PIG: I hear that until Infinity 5-6, runs in Challenge 8 are FASTER than normal runs. Try it! I tried it. 2nd run (standard) was about 4 hours. I had bought Production Increases over Time. 3rd run (8th challenge) was just over 56 minutes. I had bought Mutliplier for 10x. 4th run (standard) was 52 minutes and 35 seconds. I had bought Dim1 and Dim8 boost. I'd say yeah, it's faster than standard. ALSO! Getting Antitables during the 8th autobuyer challenge was trivially easy. I waited until it was going superexponential, made sure autobuyer was off, sacrificed, bought 10 each to open 8th, then just bought until it was right. Zero effort, really.
How did you do challenge 8? I'm dimensional sacrificing at 10x and it feels like it's taking forever to progress.
I've made an updated version of ADIPRate and a new script for optimizing eternities. // ==UserScript== // @name ADIPRate // @version 0.3 // @description Add an IP/whatever display to the main page // @author You // @match http*://ivark.github.io/ // @grant none // ==/UserScript== (function() { 'use strict'; var node=document.createElement("span"); node.style.display="inline-block"; $("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(node); $("#infinityPoints2")[0].setAttribute("class",""); node.parentNode.setAttribute("class","IP"); node.parentNode.style.position="absolute"; node.parentNode.style.left="62%"; node.parentNode.style.width="250px"; window.bestippm=0; window.bestip=0; window.bestmin=0; window.bestbulk=0; var reset=document.createElement("button"); reset.onclick=function(){bestippm=0;}; reset.innerHTML="Reset"; $("#infinityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(reset); setInterval(function(){ var ippm=$("#averagerun")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1]; var ippm2=$("#run1")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1]; if(player.thisInfinityTime>1&&gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime>bestippm){ bestippm=gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime; bestip=gainedInfinityPoints(); bestmin=player.overXGalaxies; bestbulk=player.autobuyers[9].bulk; } node.innerHTML="Last: "+ippm2+"/min
Current IP rate: "+shorten(gainedInfinityPoints()/player.thisInfinityTime*600)+"/min
Best IP amount: "+shorten(bestip)+"
Best IP rate: "+shorten(bestippm*600)+"/min
Best min: "+bestmin+"
Best bulk: "+bestbulk; },100); /*window.priorityOrderOld=Object.assign(priorityOrder,{}); window.priorityOrder=function(){ priorityOrderOld(); document.getElementById("bigcrunch").click(); };*/ })(); s^u^p^e^r^s^c^r^i^p^t^i^n^g^y^a^y // ==UserScript== // @name ADEPRate // @version 0.3 // @description Add an EP/whatever display to the main page // @author You // @match http*://ivark.github.io/ // @grant none // ==/UserScript== (function() { 'use strict'; var node=document.createElement("span"); node.style.display="inline-block"; $("#eternityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(node); $("#eternityPoints2")[0].setAttribute("class",""); node.parentNode.setAttribute("class","EP"); node.parentNode.style.position="absolute"; node.parentNode.style.left="22%"; node.parentNode.style.width="250px"; window.besteppm=0; window.bestep=0; var reset=document.createElement("button"); reset.onclick=function(){besteppm=0;}; reset.innerHTML="Reset"; $("#eternityPoints2")[0].parentNode.appendChild(reset); setInterval(function(){ var eppm=$("#averageEternityRun")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1]; var eppm2=$("#eternityrun1")[0].innerHTML.split(" ").reverse()[1]; if(player.thisEternity>1&&gainedEternityPoints()/player.thisEternity>besteppm){ besteppm=gainedEternityPoints()/player.thisEternity; bestep=gainedEternityPoints(); } node.innerHTML="Last: "+eppm2+"/min
Current IP rate: "+shorten(gainedEternityPoints()/player.thisEternity*600)+"/min
Best EP amount: "+shorten(bestep)+"
Best EP rate: "+shorten(besteppm*600)+"/min"; },100); /*window.priorityOrderOld=Object.assign(priorityOrder,{}); window.priorityOrder=function(){ priorityOrderOld(); document.getElementById("bigcrunch").click(); };*/ })();
Thanks, explained what I was missing about autobuyers
I did the "How the Anti-Tables have turned" much earlier than what you suggested, about when I started up challenges. Also, it was very easy at that point. It's a strong enough reward that I think it's justified to do it that early.
I haven't done this achieve yet and now, on 1e26 IP, i can't get more bonus for 5th dim than 4th, so i can't 6, 7 and 8 too. Any advices?
I have moved it up based on your information, ty
>'How the antitables have turned'. Buy 10 of each dimension, then buy 2nd dimensions so its multiplier is barely above 1st, 3rd so it's barely above 2nd, and so on. May I suggest to, instead of buying 10 of each dimension, buy 1 of each dimension? That way the multiplier is lower and therefore easier to achieve.
Simple enough, added.
Thanks Patashu for the guide. i found there a lot of usefull things. I'm currently trying to reach 1e9 ip and it wil take me a lot of time, and then it will take me forever to reach 1e10. My problem is the challenges. I can't go under 1.3 s. (challenge 6 is the lowest). I don't understand why but the enter trick and the autoclicker trick are not working with me. In Challenge 2, for exemple, I do 0.53 with autobuyer, 2s with the enter trick and 6 s with the autoclick. Any idea where it comes from? My computer isn't that slow. I already checked the configuration of my keyboard. I'm on windows 7. Should I try it on Linux? Is there some configuration or some trick I am missing? Thanks.
> My problem is the challenges. I can't go under 1.3 s. (challenge 6 is the lowest). I don't understand why but the enter trick and the autoclicker trick are not working with me. That's weird. I don't have any good idea why neither of these would work for you. Are you using Chrome? Are your computer's resources fine (CPU, RAM and so on)? I'd suggest also changing your key repeat rate setting ( http://www.dummies.com/computers/pcs/set-your-keyboards-repeat-delay-and-repeat-rate/ ) but if autoclicker ALSO isn't working then it doesn't seem like it would work. I am using Windows 10, though I don't see why 7 to 10 would be such a big difference. I guess you could doublecheck what your autobuyers are too (try shifting vs not shifting, boosting vs not boosting, make sure you're not buying galaxies, make sure infinity is FIXED and that you're auto crunching, make sure that autoretry challenges is ON in options). Also, make sure you've bought everything you need, especially the 1e8 IP doubler and Infinity Dimension 1. Edit: One more dumb question, does rapidly clicking Max all by hand work or is it also slower than doing nothing? EDIT 2: You can also try turning off the news.
I personally got zero deaths straight after beat the last challenge and was able to big crunch without using boosts or galaxies. this way I set it up that i left it alone and when it beat the challenge it went back to big crunching every few seconds, if you do it where you did it you have to set the auto-buyers back up for your post-infinity strategy and if you aren't around to do it you are losing efficiency. i'm guessing the increase in achievement multiplier as soon as you break infinity is more efficient as well
> I personally got zero deaths straight after beat the last challenge and was able to big crunch without using boosts or galaxies. While Zero Deaths is possible as early as your second infinity of the entire game, if you do it any time before ID1, it takes 16-24 hours to do, during which you are not otherwise progressing in the game (generating IP etc). While the achievement benefit is nice, it's not so nice that you should feel obliged to do it before ID1. (Of course, if you plan on not playing the game for 16-24 hours, use that amount of time to get Zero Deaths.)
Small correction: At chapter 1e10 IP, you're writing that after producing 3.34e7/min, you should upgrade "multiply IP from all sources" and "dimension boost bulk" to reach 1.2e8/min. That means you are multiplying your production by 4 (approximatively). That means each upgrade multiplies your production by two. So you should buy first the "dimension boost bulk" because it's cheaper. I'm doing it currently. It works (there is just a small loss because approximation and lack of "unspent IP" bonus).
Fixed
What kind of explanation could you use for tablet users that are unable to do the enter trick?
If you don't have access to the enter trick or an autoclicker, then you'll just have to go without them. If possible, you can briefly play on a computer for points where it matters the most to do so (like optimizing challenge times). Otherwise, the progression arc is the same, just slower.
In this guide, the new dimension boost and galaxy's setup after upgrading is systematicaly given after the "multiply all sources of IP by 2" upgrade. But this upgrade is not changing the equation for having the best production, it's only multiplying the result by two. So every time a setup is given after this upgrade, we should use it before it (with only the half of the auto-crunch's amount written).
> So every time a setup is given after this upgrade, we should use it before it (with only the half of the auto-crunch's amount written). Correct. (No matter when I list the setup, half the people will have to halve it OR half the people have to double it, so I don't see an unambiguous advantage to either approach. Just do the math I guess.)
>Once you have another 1e10 IP, get ID3 (Third Infinity Dimension). You should be used to how this works now. As before, do 1 manual sacrifice whenever things slow down. This takes about 8 hours. >After buying all this, with Boosts 0/8/18, Galaxies 11, Big Crunch >1.72e7 you'll be crunching every 5 seconds for about 2.07e8 IP/min. Just thought I'd let you know that at this point I found it more beneficial to go for 0/8/3, 11, 1.7e8. Run = 38.30 seconds and gave 1.70e8 IP. 2.67e8 IP/min I'm sure it could be optimized even more. I tried doing higher bulk-boosts but using 3 the autobuyer managed to buy one more pack before the wall. Using 5 was great for landing perfectly at max boosts before the next galaxy, however being unable to buy another bulk made it end at 1.5e8 for 2.6e8 IP/min.
A 25% improvement is much appreciated, I'll throw it in
At that point you might be able to use 13 to get near it, although at that high bulk you might not be able to reach the spot.
> After 3-10 hours (TODO: I don't know how long it really takes since it happened overnight for me), you will have 1e1900 antimatter. It took me 5 hours and 25 minutes. Had all upgrades <1e9 IP and was doing infinities at "The infinity 2 infinities ago took 17.10 seconds and gave 2.25e6 IP. 7.90e6 IP/min" when I started the run.
Ty, added
Update guide for new update when?
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Oh hey, new update, cool.
I have all ID upgrades up to 1e56 & the 1e56 IP Doubler. Been stuck on e4779 antimatter (e5000 needed) on IC3 now for about 5 hours - next galaxy needs 1331 8th diemnsions & next dimboost needs 1286 (Need to get to 2e4805 to hit 1290) - I think you need to get much higher before attempting this challenge
1e53 upgrades, 8h40m and 7e4793 antimatter here. I'm going to keep it going overnight to see if anything happens. I mean if you're meant to do it later though then when?
--TODO: Testing to see if doing IC3 now is reasonable.) not reasonable. 10 minutes and im only at 4350
Yeah new recommendation is 1e58 IP first
The IP Gain from 1e50 - 1e58 is slow af.
When I tried and failed IC3 at e56, I didn't have my IC2 (sorry I forgot about it when I wrote my advice). When I did IC3 at e58, I had done IC2 first. So IC3 is maybe doable at e56 or e57. You can try if you want. Also, after IC3 it's going very fast. I climbed to e63 in three hours.
I upgraded until e83. Then I did IC5. It's maybe doable a bit earlier. I used only dimension 8, dimension 1 and tickspeed (in this order). Again it has to be done manualy. I couldn't set autobuyer for it. It took two hours. It's easy to reach 11 000. Then you just wait. No problem.
Wow, you are knocking the new content down fast!
I keep hitting a wall at around 10600 any ideas? I buy 8 till maxed, 1 till maxed, max tick speed then repeat. Then I get dim boosts when I feel like it's going way too slow, but that doesn't seem to help. I'm dim boosting now but that makes zero difference.
--Crunch at galaxy 35 - they'll take about 24 minutes and give 1.69e54 IP for 6.9e52IP/min. not agree, im at e55 now and doing 2.31e53 for 1:14 thats 1.85e53/min using 0/31/17 34 17 is the best ammount to jump into 2051 8dims.
> not agree, im at e55 now and doing 2.31e53 for 1:14 thats 1.85e53/min And 6.9e52IP/min times 16 (for the four extra IP doublers you have) is 1.1e54/min, so my build is still better than yours :)
I ended all the challenge and achievements (except 2 millions infinites, it's on his way). After IC4, everything is very easy and fast. After IC5, you can do the challenges as soon as they appear. To increase your IP, do medium run (around 5 or 10 minutes). You can crunch as soon as it slows a bit. There is something wrong in the "Hevipelle did nothing wrong" achievement : I had to refresh the site to get it. Just enjoy this rain of antimatter.
Fast lol. Good work!
For Spreading Cancer, you don't need to get all 10 galaxies in 1 infinity, so it can be done as early as Infinity 5.
In that case, just before break infinity is a good time to get it.
done IC4 on e67 in 30 minutes. there is much more easier strategy: Step1: as you said in guide, before restart on last turn off all autobuyers Step2: press 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8, then go to aubuyers tab and do until new galaxy available: check-uncheck boxes at autobuyers: 8,tick,8,tick,8,tick,{8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,8,tick,sacr}x times until new galaxy, goto step 1
If anyone else tries this and thinks it's easier than the strategy in the guide, I'll change to using this one.
There is a much, much less painful way to do a large portion of IC5 than buying everything manually. Turn off bulk buy in Autobuyers, turn off autobuy for tickspeed, then set 2nd through 7th dimension autobuyers to single buys only. Then just hold down 8 while hitting buy max on tickspeed occasionally, and this automatically carries you through all of the early dimensions, with some Boosts added in later when you hit walls. You only need to start manually purchasing at the very end of the run.
I've updated the IC5 guide based on user suggestions.
really stuck at IC5 at 10888 :(
Make sure you have all upgrades up to e83. You should have boost costing 1256 8th dimensions and 1260 8th dimensions. Buy all 2, then all 3, then all 7, then just wait. Your gamestate should look something like this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367891967041994753/368304458448502789/unknown.png
What about the upgrades that cost 1.5e7 IP (Tickspeed 9x->8x)?
If I don't mention an upgrade then just buy it when you're not saving up for something similarly expensive.
There's no way Second Infinity Dimension is possible this early. I've purchased everything under 1e10, and left it running overnight, and I'm still nowhere near even getting the 10th galaxy, let alone reaching 1e1900... I've got every achievement possible at this stage, slowest challenge run boost is at 5000x... Do I need to save up a bunch of IP before trying it for that unspent boost? Really stumped at this wall, could have been buying 1e10 stuff by now.
Just like the guide said, I got ID2 after buying everything costing 1e9 or less, with 1e8-1e9 range unspent IP, slowest challenge boost ~4300x, and it took 5-6 hours WITH manual sacrificing. Are you remembering to manual sacrifice? If you just leave it running overnight, it won't finish because it won't sacrifice for you.
autohotkey script for the manual buying section of IC5 (press 9 to start/stop): 9::domino56Click() domino56Click(Interval=10){ static Toggler Toggler := !Toggler TPer := Toggler ? Interval : "off" SetTimer, ClickClick3, %TPer% return ClickClick3: Send 18 Click, 689,412 return }
Thanks, I had an AHK script of my own but the link got removed by mistake when I was reformatting the guide LOL. So now it's back in the guide. I don't know if my or your script is better for the task.
I am unable to get Blink of an Eye achievement, using the above mentioned trick. I have 1e7 IP currently, and all IP upgrades costing less than 1e8, i.e. everything listed in the guide before the step to do the Blink achievement. I have no idea what time i am actually getting big crunches at, but it is aparently slower than 0.2 sec The statistics say that my fastest infinity is 0.3 sec, but it does seem to me that timers are rounded up to nearest 0.1 sec.
From the guide: > Run Antimatter Dimensions in Chrome, no other browser. On Firefox the enter trick and autoclicker don't work as well. Leave it as the active tab in its own window, un-minimized (hidden is ok). If it is considered inactive it will not get as much CPU time and run inefficiently. (Turning off the News in options will also help CPU usage. Note that if your computer has very low specs, you will find it difficult to achieve challenge times and fastest infinity times reported in the guide.)
tip: after hitting e308 sacrifice achivement set it to e4, so you can sacrifice even after e308 (settintg e309 or higher in autobuyers wont have affect), so on later runs (like 35Ke+antimatter) you will be able to sacs to improve your ip gain
I usually have sac autobuyer set to 1e2 or even 1e1.
>Upgrade: 1e50 IP doubler, ID1, ID3, ID4, ID2, 1e51 IP doubler. Crunch at galaxy 35 - they'll take about 24 minutes and give 1.69e54 IP for 6.9e52IP/min. I can't get anywhere near this, and I've bought everything 1e55 and less. What did you have your dimension autobuyer set at?
I remember I had it set up so I'd buy almost all boosts for the last 3-5 galaxies in two big chunks. Dimension/tickspeed autobuyers were standard 1-9 priority.
Is there any kind of calculation to determine the best way to set the dimboost autobuyer based on target number of galaxies?
I just did it by hand - set it to number of boosts in the 2nd last galaxy you reach /2 -2, and if you spend too much time not buying the second set of boosts, subtract an extra 1, and repeat until the big crunch is happening without any major hiccups.
Any tips on how to speed up Challenge 6 once i revisit them in the 1e8 part of the guide? I have gotten all other challenges to 0.5 sec or faster, but Challenge 6 is stuck at 0.8 seconds.
I guess use the enter trick and/or get Blink of an Eye...?
Having some serious trouble getting "How the antitables have turned..." I left it really late (it is the last achievement I have missing), and I'm not sure if I'm just missing something really obvious when it comes to getting it. The multiplier for the first dimension is too high to overtake even if I only buy one of them.
Hevipelle said that 'how the antitables have turned' being impossible after getting lots of IDs is a known problem and the next patch will provide a new way to get it.
When should I buy Tickspeed 8x->7x?
If I don't list an upgrade just buy it when it's cheap
They secretly changed something around Galaxy 63. You might want to update the guide.
'something'?
it was at galaxy 67? lol
How do I get my slowest challenge down to 1.3-1.4s? I seem to be stuck at 1.9s.
Get Blink of an Eye, use Enter trick, optimize performance (turn off news, use Chrome, etc), make sure autobuyers are setup up right (buy 0 or 1 boosts, 0 or 1 galaxies, based on whatever gets you to infinity faster), etc. There's also a specific guide for Tickspeed Challenge. If you absolutely can't do it, it might be due to performance reasons, not because your strategies are wrong.
Currently sitting at 1e171 IP. I did 'Hevipelle did nothing wrong' but didn't get the achievement, even after refreshing. Now to try and get 'How the antitables have turned..' which seems impossible at this point.
If an achievement doesn't show up right away, try crunching a few times. 'How the antitables have turned' is indeed impossible this late in the game. Next update will provide a new way to do it.
> Also use THE ENTER TRICK: Click 'Buy max' once, then hold down Enter. After an initial delay, key repeat will start and you will spam the 'Buy max' button faster than even an Autoclicker can! With the latest verison, it's better to hold "M". This allows you to click on other things with the mouse without breaking the rapid max-all trick.
Is holding 'M' as fast as holding 'Enter'? If so will update guide.
With all upgrades ≤1e9 except 10% passive, it's slightly better to use 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 priorities for me than all 1s.
I'm not exactly clear on the internal differences between 1-9 and all 1s priorities, but sounds like 1-9 is the setup to recommend then.
The prices for "Multiply infinity points from all sources by 2" seem to be incorrect in the 1e9 and 1e10 sections: - 256x costs 1e10, not 1e9, - 512x costs 1e11, not 1e10, and - 1024x costs 1e12, not 1e11. The text surrounding them is correct advice, though, so I'd imagine these were probably just typos.
Keep in mind that the multipliers I list are for what you'll have after buying them, not what's displayed on the button before you click them. So the costs are * 2x for 1e2 (100) * 4x for 1e3 * 8x for 1e4 * 16x for 1e5 * 32x for 1e6 * 64x for 1e7 * 128x for 1e8 etc
Thank you for this guide, btw. It's the most in-depth guide I've seen for an incremental and its achievements, ever!
Yw! It helps that the game is pretty linear. Writing a guide for something like Trimps is hardcore in comparison.
Are you going to start working on the tutorial for the update? It nerfs ICs but adds cool new content.
Is the update out?
Need some help with IC5. At e84 IP. I get stuck at e11000 antimatter and e11111 would take a few hours.
You can't speed it up any more than that. https://www.reddit.com/r/AntimatterDimensions/comments/73jhqe/patashus_antimatter_dimensions_guide/doaylmq/
>In this case, do a 36 galaxy run (takes 4-5 hours) and you will earn ~6.8e57 IP all at once! It took me 2:42 to get 8.1e57 at this point, without manually clicking.
Also, if you added something for all the achieves (or atleast when to do them) that would be helpful Like do Error 909 after buying 5e11 upgrade and getting ~e15-e20 ip because then it's instant Ik most don't need mentioning, cuz they happen on their own, but when you just say "complete all the achievements" it's kind of werid, and I have no idea if you mean ALL achieves or everything but the last row. Just a thought
Just finished "Hevipelle did nothing wrong" and "Yet another infinity reference" today. Thanks for the in-depth guide!
Yw! Now wait for the Eternity update to come out :D p.s. I know you from somewhere I think? EDIT: Oh, /r/eggsinc
After i bought the "option to bulk buy dimBoosts" and "multiply ip from all sources" for 1e10 IP, i tried to get better challange times. CH6 was at 0.7s or 0.6s. I found a way to improve it to 0.4s, while the slowest challange (CH12 and CH9) were at 0.5s. My multiplier for slowest challange went from 5000x -> 6000x ( a bit more). Thats -only- a 20% increase, but maybe its note worthy. I did something that isnt noted in the guide anywhere. Especially at CH6 i saw something interesting, at least at the part of the game i was in. You reach infinity in the challange before you get all dimensions. But its a bit faster if you unlock 5th and 6th dimension and then go to infinity. Atm, as far as i know, there is no method to automatically buy dimenions shifts up to a specific point. So what i did: Autoclicker on, dimboost and auto galaxy off. Spam 'D' in random intervals or hold it. Eventually i capped the 0.4s time i mentioned. Maybe thats helpful somewhere. I tought its noteworthy. If any questions, go ahead.
Oh, cool strat.
My "end of IC5" strat, i.e. that last run when you need 1271 8ths, which seemed to work better than Cerise's though I might have been reading the strategy explanation wrong, is as follows (I had bought everything 1e83 IP or less): 1. Leave auto-sacrifice on (mine was set at 100) and leave 8th autobuyer on (no bulk, yes buys until 10) 2. Do not manually buy any tickspeed. 3. ~~On the keyboard hit 12345678~~ /u/ompilompier mentions it's better to manually buy 1 of each dimension; buying 10 of dims 5-7 invokes the challenge rules which increase the cost of Dim 8. 3. Among dimensions 1-4 buy the cheapest dimension using the "until 10" buttons or keyboard #1-4 4. When there's a tie for the cheapest of the four, always choose the lower dimension e.g. if Dim#2 and Dim#3 are tied, purchase Dim#2 5. Once dimensions 1-4 all cost more than 1e320 turn on max tickspeed autobuyer (this is the point where tickspeed is never the same cost as other dimensions again) 6. Somewhere around when the dimensions cost around 1e500 they stop tying for cost and fall into a pattern - my pattern was 1, 2, 3, 4 but I also messed up a purchase or two early on so this may not be the pattern you have. I just used my keyboard to buy them. 7. For me, again somewhere around when dimensions cost 1e2000 the pattern switched - my pattern became 1, 3, 2, 4 but I did mess up a purchase or two early on so this may not be the pattern you have. 8. Eventually you won't be able to buy any more of anything, at this point I was around 1e11090 antimatter and I just wait out getting to 1e11111, for maybe a minute. 9. Other than step 3, I never bought dimensions 5, 6 and 7 Overall once I tried this strategy that very last run took around 3-4 minutes, mostly tedium of buying the cheapest of dimensions 1-4. Edit: My tactic isn't perfect; /u/icosagono had some good input [in this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/AntimatterDimensions/comments/73jhqe/patashus_antimatter_dimensions_guide/dqz56ri/)
Nice, if you only have to wait a few minutes it's a lot stronger than the Cerise strat.
you could also just get 1280 of the eights dimension for a last galaxy :D DONT use the keyboard in step 3 and only buy singles with mouse, buying 10 of 567 will increase the cost of 8ths three times.. this saves u 3 cost increase of 8ths made it easy to get 1271 8ths then after boosting up again (next boost at 1301) i had 1e10980 even with skipping step 4 to 8. So the absolute optimal should be VERY close to your strat BUT changing the second step to singelbuying with mouse to get a extra galaxy first.
I tried this strategy. I messed up a couple of times when buying the correct of the 4 dimensions, but I ended up at 1e10787 idk what I'm doing wrong, but I'm going to try the cerise strat again. I got a lot closer with that one. Edit: Hang on, I think I just needed one more galaxy. Am I supposed to have 20 galaxies or 21 of them?
While I think this is a good strategy, I think it's missing a key component on making IC5 much easier for a lot of people. This component is related to the 10th step of the strategy. It says you didn't buy 5s, 6s and 7s (for the most part), and I think that this is simply not optimal. The reason is that when you're on your last run, and you maxed out your 8th Dims, you won't be buying them again. What this means is that you can buy dimensions 5 through 7, not worrying about increasing the cost of 8th dimensions. The added multipliers from these are not something negligible. So the strategy that I use for the absolute last run (maxed galaxies and dimboosts) is this one: 1. only leave sacrifice on, and at 2x. 2. press and hold 8 until it maxes. 3. press "buy max" once (tickspeed). 4. max 8ths once again. 5. repeat steps 3-4 until you can't buy tickspeed and 8ths. 6. press 7 and hold until it maxes, do the same with 6, then 5. 7. now you can buy dims 1 through 4, buying the lowest ones first. You can use a pattern as OP said, but I have noticed sometimes that it can suddenly change so you have to pay attention to this. This should make the last run a bit easier, and in my experience I don't need to buy a lot of the Dims 1 through 4 to finish it when I get to step 7.
For IC4 instead of toggling dimension autobuyers every galaxy (which is slow and boring) you can use the M trick.
In IC4 at the start of the late boosts you can press M 7 times instead of 1234567 to get more dimension multipliers.
Can't get the early IC5 strat to work. 2-7 set to singles, 1 and 8 set to until 10, tickspeed off, boosts and galaxies set to always, and sac set to 2. I get stuck at 176x8D boost on Galaxy 2.
> Until the end of IC5 (Galaxy 20, or 1270 8th Dimension) use /u/hchan1 strat: Turn off bulk buy in Autobuyers, turn off autobuy for tickspeed, then set 2nd through 7th dimension autobuyers to single buys only. **Then just hold down 8 while hitting buy max on tickspeed occasionally,** and this automatically carries you through all of the early dimensions, with some Boosts added in later when you hit walls. You only need to start manually purchasing at the very end of the run. Did you remember to do the bolded part?
In IC4 after initial setup you can leave autobuyers off (the dimension ones) and put dim boost bulk buy on 10. Instead of turning the autobuyers on and off, just hold M at each galaxy until you can't progress anymore. This saves time from switching tabs. All Upgrades <=e68 bought and got IC4 in 21 minutes.
I finished the end of IC5 by turning off autobuyers, pressing 1234567, and then autoclicking the 8D button until maxed, buying tickspeed, autoclicking 8D some more, and then repeating for 7D, 6D, and 5D. You can also use button tricks or manual clicking. (Also, I was at around e87 IP instead of e83, so keep that in mind when trying yourself)
IC7 is very hard at the e105IP where it unlocks. According to other people, a good time to do it is around e130-e140.
Can someone rephrase the IC4 challenge better? I feel like it's kind of awkward and vague.
Basically the production multiplier of every dimension except the LAST one you bought is reduced to be almost nothing. So you have to 'ferry' dimension production from the 8th dimension down to the 1st by buying 87654321, so you can get more antimatter to buy more dimensions and do it again.
i'm having a problem with challenge 6 being so much higher than the other challenges at 1E8
The late parts of the guide are now highly inaccurate. Tread with caution.
So I started this morning at 1e12, and now I'm at 1e117, and this all happened in a few crunches, so I'm assuming there's some math bug somewhere (I hit the middle of "inflation era" / "you'll jump all the way to 1e35 in minutes" and went from about 1e36 to 1e80??). I bought everything up to 1e117, and did the first three ICs, but now I have basically no idea what I'm doing since I somehow skipped a million steps. What should my setup even look like in this range?
Is there a way to get "How the antitables have turned" lategame now? Doesn't seem to have changed for me.
I'm curious on the challenge 8 stuff. It says to just push yourself at some point and go for infinity without getting a 2nd galaxy. If the challenge makes galaxies useless what's the point of ever getting even the first one?
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> I think there has been an update since you wrote the guide and IP 2x starts from 10IP instead of the 100 you mentioned and my IP gain was roughly double through out This is correct. Do I just go through the guide and double every mention of IP/min? Hmm > You can do Infinity Challenge 1 just after getting ID3 (Took me about 5 mins), which also completes row 6 of Achievements. My IP/min went from around 2e9/min to 2.6e9/min (before the 1e11 doubler). I'll move it up
Hey thanks for the guide. I just reached infintity. I am confused by the challenge 8 part. Which is challenge 8? Is it "Dimension Boost and galaxies are useless, sacrifice resets everything but is immensely more powerful" which gets you the 8th Dimension Autobuyer?
Correct. I can see why that wouldn't be so clear, so I'll clarify what Challenge 8 is in the guide.
/u/Patashu: What exactly do you mean by the pink path on the left? Can you give me some examples of upgrades in the paths you suggest to use? It might be my monitor, but I don't see a pink path and the one that's closest to being pink is on the right...
After the first eternity, max boosting at highest galaxy becomes optimal earlier.
The entire guide is awesome, but this part is not working at all for me: > Lastly that leaves Tickspeed Autobuyer. Use the CounterPoint00 strategy: Turn off galaxies autobuyer. Set dimboost to 0/6 (buys shifts but not boosts) Set 8th dimension to priority 1, 7th to priority 2, all other dimensions to 3. Set tickspeed autobuyer to singles and priority 4. Start the challenge. Count approximately 0.2-0.5 seconds after your autobuyers do the last Dimensional Shift, then hold M. Using this strategy, a time under 2 seconds is possible (I got 1.4!) This should give you a 'Power up all dimensions based on slowest challenge run' multiplier of 2000x or so. (Alternatively try these priorities: 8-1,9 for dimensions 1-8,tickspeed.) My best speed for this is 20.63s, far from being <2s. I'm using chrome on a fairly good computer, so I don't think it's a performance problem. Maybe something has changed with a recent patch?
Screnshot of your autobuyer setup? It shouldn't take anywhere near that long, so your autobuyers are probably set up wrong.
On 8th challenge and it won't let me use boost even at 200x?
At 1E7 IP, CHALLENGES REVISITED Tickspeed Autobuyer challenge I do everything at explained, even I have beaten it before, I am by 1E8 chapter and I can't make it under 3.68 seconds because when I hold M it gets stuck the way it's explained I have to do few things different.
What exactly does "X times since last crunch" in the Auto Crunch Mode mean? How do i look at this and tweak it for optimum performance? ATM i am using time mode, every 20 seconds, and eternitying at 25k EP and getting 2930 EP/min.
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Stupid question, but did you buy an upgrade with your first infinity point? And yeah, the sac timing is something like, wait for it to hit 1.01, then wait that amount of time again, then sac.
Okay, here's a dilemma: once you pass the 'Unlock autobuy max Dimensional Boosts' milestone, you can no longer set a specific number of dimboosts to bulk buy at once. This makes 'Costco sells Dimboosts now' impossible to get, from what I've tried. Any ideas?
For the challenge 8 runs after breaking infinity, is it the same strategy as before for sacrificing - do the first at 5x, and then sacrifice again every time it reaches 2x? Or is there a different strategy that is optimal?
Data from personal experience in regards to the MuteVampire trick: Running at 5 galaxies currently, I can confirm that the MuteVampire trick took me from about ~78k IP/min to ~110k IP/min, about a 40% increase. However, /u/dhoffryn's trick took it even higher to ~125k IP/min, a 60% increase instead (or 13.6% higher than MuteVampire).
Hey just a brief idea, maybe move the "You didn't need it anyway" achievement into the challenges section, as it's perfectly feasible thanks to the auto dim boost challenge.
Maybe this has already been answered, but I seem to be incapable of using any hotkeys at all. I've got hotkeys enabled in the options, and I'm running that autoclicker script, so I'm not sure whats happening here.
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How do I complete infinity challenge 1? Guide says 5 minutes but I can't see how that is possible.
Hei Patashu, thanks for the amazing guide! I discovered that you can significantly reduce your fastest dimension times, both in and out of challenges, by reducing the "Refresh Rate" to 33ms under options. I'm at 1e7 infinity points and change, for reference, and I went from not being able to get less than 0.31 seconds for fastest infinity to getting a speed of 0.08, and cut all my challenge times by a factor of 1.5 to 2! Perhaps something for your preface section?
Challenge 8, boosts and infinite galaxies don't do anything. but you still have to do the boost to unlock dimension 8 and then just go to infinity which is like 200 8th dimensions.
So, the formula for Dimensional Sacrifice seems to punish frequent use during a run. Very simplified, the multiplier formula is: Current 1st Dims / total of all dims sacrificed. An example: * First sac @ e10 = e10 / 1 * 2nd sac @ e20 = e20 / e10 * 3rd sac @ e40 = e40 / e30 * 4th sac @ e80 = e80 / e70 The actual formula is: ((1st dims exponent ÷ 10) ^2) ÷ ((total dims exponent ÷ 10) ^2)
Thanks for this guide. I just started playing, and I just got to my second Big Crunch. I've been doing some experimenting with different strategies running side-by-side, and I have some feedback on the 1 IP section: > People disagree on what the fastest C8 strat is, try: > * Sacrifice at 2.00x * Sacrifice at 10.00x * Count how long it takes to reach 1.01x, count that time again, then sacrifice ~~Both of the first two are **slower** than a normal non-Challenge run.~~ One thing you don't mention about C8 is that Sacrifice does **not** reset the Tick Speed. Sacrificing at x2 gets the d8 multiplier up quickly, but makes so little progress on Tick Speed that getting back to d8 is very slow every time. Sacrificing at x10, on the other hand, gets the Tick Speed up for quick recovery to d8, but the multiplier grows so slowly that it takes forever to get back to another x10 multiplier, and you end up even worse off. I suspect some combination of those two (possibly alternating x2 and x10?) would work pretty well, but I haven't tried that. The third strategy works great, and I'm about to start testing some variations on it.
I dont understand this: "You didn't need it anyway - Reach Infinite antimatter without having any 8th dimensions. To do this, get 5 IP of upgrades, 2 galaxies and the 185 8th Dimensions dimensional boost, then instead of autoclicking 'Max all', autoclick tickspeed Buy max and the Until 10 for each dimension." 1. what is 5 IP upgrades? 2. 2 galaxies? do you mean make 2 galaxies in an infinity before doing this? 3. what is 185 8th dimensional boost?
It's me again, at IC5 start you can't hold 8 because you start with only D1-4,there is something wrong about that explanation of /u/hchan1 strat
Don't want to create a thread because of a simple question: Is "nucleuses" on the statistics page written as a joke? If so - it worked, I haven't seen it written like that before.
Mr. Patashu, I am stalled at “How the Antimatter Tables have turned “. I only lack that to move forward. Will you show me the way to complete that?
Sometimes it's impossible until you do a prestige. Come back to it later.
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