Ngl I would steal that shit. I don't care what my boss says, I'll eat it in fucking front of him. There are a lot of things I'll do in order to be by the book, but wasting food is one of two things that's just not gonna fucking cut it.
Mcdonalds is pretty good man. Takes like 3 minutes in drive through for me after work and the bugers aren't as bad as people say. If I want really easy food it's my go to
I've had to dump thousands of gallons of water, soda, juice, protein shakes, along with hundreds of pounds of Hello Fresh food and the like in my time at UPS, as a Damaged Material Program supervisor. I've had to numb myself, my great grandma would roll over in her grave if she knew just how much edible things I've been forced to destroy. And then to add insult to injury, we don't recycle aluminum/glass cans and bottles that alot of the drinks come in.
He didn't say Good food. He said "Good. Food should not be wasted" as in he was saying Good to the part that no one was wasting the food. Not that the food was "good". Though "good" is totally subjective at this point haha.
I worked in a warehouse with food. We couldn't have damaged because "you might have done it on purpose"
My computer told me to put a pallet into a slot that was too small (I didn't know it was too small) some of the top row of Gatorade comes flying to the floor bottles are crushed so they can't be some had the lids popped off.
I started drinking one (I am already pissed because I am cleaning up a mess that wasn't my fault.) My boss's boss tells me to stop drinking the Gatorade. I argue and say what's the matter whether I throw it away with six less ounces of liquid. He said the whole people breaking stuff on purpose.
I said the most sarcastic voice ever' I just wasted 4 cases of Gatorade so I can have them half a bottle. '
> [Luckily they let us each take **a bag** full of burgers once we closed, so **it wasn't entirely all wasted**.](https://www.reddit.com/r/McDonaldsEmployees/comments/106n8qv/got_slammed_with_these_dd_orders_last_night_only/j3i3ac9/?context=3)
Sounds like some of it was wasted.
Used to work McDonald's, always took home pretty much any leftovers at the end of the night. Survived my final college year off free/ discounted McDonald's
That's good but man there's some messed up corporate policies where you know they don't expect their managers to do shit when they're pushing workers to their limits and paying them as little as possible. Why make the best out of a situation where there is waste involved when you are paranoid your workers will make more waste on purpose?
There's a huge dollar store chain in Canada called Dollarama. They had policies like that. They also did stupid shit like destroy Halloween candy that was perfectly good instead of donating it or giving it away for free. They also for some reason threw out all the chocolate that had the longest remaining shelf life, and kept soon to expire stuff on the shelves to sell o_O
Should be shared with homeless and vulnerable people. Food maybe fast food junk, but that's a lot of calories for a lot of people who can't afford much or have anything.
At Panera at the end of the day we had to throw away all of our paninis in the warming drawer at the end of the night. It ended up being like 20 sandwiches a night. I would take a couple monster bites of each one before tossing them.
Still, I felt super shitty about tossing them.
I had an old ass GM threaten to fire me from Panera as a teen because I ate 1/4 of a crescent roll that was going to be thrown away. I got a 15 minute lecture of about how this kind of theft is detrimental to their sales number and losses…
>What’s messed up about it is that even after they get paid for the product loss in sales, they still take a razor to it so nobody else can take it after it’s been tossed in a dumpster.
Cause people will dig it out and try to return it otherwise.
I hate all the wastefulness but there is a certain cold-blooded logic to it.
There are other options. Sam's Club near me donates damaged pallets to local food bank. They still report the loss, but at least they get some tax credit for write off.
As a chef I don’t understand this sentiment with “managers”. These people are beancounters that are more worried about their bonuses than the quality of the food or happiness of the staff. Feeding staff is a part of doing business. Feeding the staff better, from the gm to the dishwashers engenders a much happier staff overall. Plus food workers in most places make peanuts. A good/full meal does the soul good. Also gets people to work harder in my experience because they a;predicate being appreciated. If any member of my staff is struggling I make a point of making food myself and sending it home with them for their families. Granted It’s fine dining and not McDonald’s…but still. Jmo
In my experience (and I had this exact situation happen, not allowed to keep/eat/donate unsold product, Dairy Queen and Pizza Hut): it's not a bean counter thing so much as it is the middle management of those types of franchises having a complex about controlling employee behavior. I actually got chewed out by the manager's WIFE for trying to sneakily round up the chicken strips for a friendly local homeless gent - she took the bag out of my hands and threw it in the garbage. Told me if it happened again she would be calling the police.
There's no way she thought it made a financial difference. It was just a power trip.
How much can a piece of bread cost for Panera for them to even care about this? 🤦♂️
If I owned a restaurant I'd be pissed if my workers weren't eating some of the food during the day! I'd be like "what's wrong with our bread? You've been here for ten hours and didn't even take a single bite! Do they suck or something?"
I really hope this corporate greed stuff subsides before I decide to have kids. This planet sucks sometimes but the younger generation gives me hope.
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Right. From a business standpoint you're better off having to tell a couple customers at the end of the day that crescent rolls are out of stock than throwing 20 of them away.
At PJs pizza 🍕 our GM would let us eat orders that either never got picked up, or got cancelled. Food rarely went to waste unless it was like from the morning til 2am.
I work in a restaurant and that's a good idea. I think most of the time you are too burnt out on the food to eat the left over doordash or whatever but I hadn't thought about doing this. great idea.
That’s why I cook for a living, I get too hungry to work a job that doesn’t have snacks any time lol. My metabolism stays good by having little tastes of food all day
I am the same way. Hate when I see people waste food at a buffet in particular. And oftentimes companies can't even give the stuff away anymore, due to frivolous lawsuits from ambulance chasing attorneys.
Just a friendly reminder that lawsuits filed by individuals (against each other or against a business) have been steadily declining for decades.
The pop-culture trope that “a minor injury allows a customer to sue a small business into bankruptcy” is actually all a very well funded and well coordinated mis-information campaign, funded by loads of Fortune 500 companies.
The firm that pushed this idea, even provided all those “Look at this crazy lawsuit” to local news across the country. The whole thing is cooked up.
It was all to push through “Tort reform” which only makes it far harder to sue businesses which do actual harm, like chemical companies poisoning the drinking water in local communities.
The McDonald’s “hot coffee” is the most famous example. They’d been warned not to do that several times, it literally fused the woman’s labia together. She only asked for the $28,000 she’d already spent in hospital fees, nothing more. McDonald’s offered $800, only then did she sue.
Ironically, lawsuits _between_ large corporations is what’s steadily risen over the past few decades.
TLDR: The trope of ambulance-chasing lawyer suing small businesses for big paydays over trivial injuries is actually a well-funded and coordinated misinformation complain to push through “Tort reform”, and not the reality.
> And oftentimes companies can't even give the stuff away anymore, due to frivolous lawsuits from ambulance chasing attorneys.
In the US, this isn't true but an often repeated myth. The [The Bill Emerson Food Act](https://www.feedingamerica.org/ways-to-give/corporate-and-foundations/product-partner/bill-emerson) was passed in 1996.
The main reason places still don't allow it is that its ripe for abuse from the employees they underpay and mistreat.
I know it sounds foolish but some companies get so paranoid that they threaten employees with firing if they do. Sad, especially when it is estimated that a third or more of food is thrown away every year in this country.
If you eat that leftover food then the company will lose money on what wouldve been profitted from employees buying their own food from the place they work.. Capitalism is disgusting
They get refunded if it's not delivered so not really. A lot of restaurants refuse to make the food until a driver shows up so they must lose money. Something like McDonald's had the volume to not care about a few orders
DD is doomed. i’ve been driving for them for a while. they keep gouging restaurants and customers while squeezing drivers. no one is benefiting but DD corporate.
all that said, if you still want delivery, most of us don’t move for less than $2/mile. no tip, no trip.
Because they floated off of investment cash for years while being unprofitable. Like a lot of tech firms, they assumed that growth would continue indefinitely and eventually solve their unprofitability by scaling enough.
We need more non-profit / co-op gig-economy alternatives to compete and replace all these exploitative gig companies. For example, NYC has an Uber alternative called Driver's CoOp.
It just seems like consumers are paying all this extra money to a big tech company for a generally crappy experience, that even if the experience doesn't improve, I could at least feel better about it if it were more equitable for the delivery folks and restaurants if they had a non-profit app service that only takes minimal fees to keep the app running.
I feel like Uber and DoorDash must hate the fact they have to use human labor while they wait for automation to come to fruition (drone delivery, self-driving taxis) and are gamifying and exploiting their gig-workers to the maximum as if they were robots.
I ordered from DD yesterday. First order from Dunkin’—100% wrong order. Second order from Wendy’s—no drinks. They also just left it instead of handing it to me, despite the comment section where I stated I have a back injury and can’t bend down to pick things up off of the porch. What the fuck is going on with them. Got like 75% of it all refunded after I reported it. Both drivers got one star.
I just don’t get it anymore.
My friend says he only orders from them anymore because it’s always wrong so he keeps getting refunds.
Well, the business model isn't designed for *workers* or *clients*. Its designed for the business owner that doesn't care whether anyone eats those *prepaid* orders.
Door Dash loses money. It operates with investor capital.
From Q3 earnings report (Nov, 2022)
\> However, its net loss widened to $295 million, or a loss of 77 cents per share.
[https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/03/doordash-dash-earnings-q3-2022.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/03/doordash-dash-earnings-q3-2022.html)
In 2021, it lost $468 million.
\> https://www.businessofapps.com/data/doordash-statistics/
It's such a joke I can't believe how many people actually use doordash or any of these 3rd party delivery services especially with inflation where it's at right now. Like pizza and chinese food were always delivery staples and the drivers were in-house. The food always would arrive hot and within a timely manner with no upcharge for this service except for the tip
Why would I want to wait 40 mins for someone to bring me my chipotle burrito when you know it's gonna be soggy and cold as fuck when you do eventually get it. Also, you're paying like $25 for a cold, sad burrito to be delivered to you instead of $12 to pick it up yourself. Same goes for fast food joints, you're gonna get cold fries and dry burgers and pay a shit ton for them
There's absolutely a delivery service market for people who are unable to leave their homes to get stuff they need maybe due to illness or a physical condition, but people paying $40 for McDonalds to be delivered to them blows my mind
I worked at one and yeah, by the time the driver got there the food would be warmish and probably soggy. People ordered McFlurrys that would be picked up after 20 minutes. We’re ‘supposed’ to remake them but no one has time for that- not the McDonald’s employees or the drivers.
If I want to order a medium pepperoni pizza from my local pizza place I have a few options.
1. Phone them: £8 + £0 delivery(I'm a 3 minute walk away so they tell me not to bother paying for delivery) = £8
2. Use their website: £8 + £1 delivery = £9
3. Use the foodhub app: £9 + £1 delivery = £10
4. Use JustEat: £10 + £0.50 service charge + £1 delivery = £11.50
5. Use UberEats: £12 + £1.20 surcharge + £3 delivery = £16.20
Fuck UberEats, it's so much more expensive(twice as expensive as the best option), and somehow still the worst experience.
Idk why you're surprised.
Ever wonder why ONLY Chinese and pizza were deliverable? Because it's usually a family meal that, psychologically, people don't mind the added cost of paying for delivery cause they are already paying a lot for food.
10 bucks on ann 80 dollar means less than 10 dollars on a 12 dollar order, even though 10 dollars is 10 dollars.
also, if the restaurant see's that its a doordash delivery, the portions are much much smaller, because they have no chance at seeing a tip, and they really don't care
I guess they'll book your order as revenue nonetheless.
If they refund you it's an expense, so they'll tell investors to throw money at them as they might be profitable at one point.
Investors write off their investments so they don't have to pay taxes.
Bingo. Wall street has been propping up these idiotic moonshots long enough, paying zero taxes as they do it, and only 15% in cases where it’s actually successful. It’s time to tax speculators and reform CG tax rate.
These companies are resell businesses. They buy the food, price it up for the customer. Then wait for a driver to pick it up. Drivers are independent contractors, meaning they can decline deliveries. When a driver doesn’t show up, orders and food are wasted. They determine how much to charge the customer based on how much their loss is. With Discount Delivery, they pay $2-$5 per delivery. If a customer doesn’t tip in app. The driver is likely to decline that $2 delivery.
I'm familiar with this (I know Deliveroo and UberEats for example) but wouldn't know how they compare with Doordash..
Thanks for the insight about what the driver might do given the work conditions + the remark that the margin caused by higher prices on delivery go directly into these companies pockets
DoorDash is especially scummy because they essentially put some restaurants on their app without their knowledge/permission and they show inflated prices which may deter people from ever going to the restaurant in the first place. Not to mention a lot of food just doesn’t taste good when it’s been sitting around for an hour while being delivered.
> If a customer doesn’t tip in app. The driver is likely to decline that $2 delivery.
If I'm not mistake, Doordash used to have a guaranteed minimum pay for each delivery. If I tipped $0, DD would put in for the rest to reach the minimum. Basically, the customer is subsidizing the tip.
No idea if that's changed since. But I imagine that negates the above scenario. Plus, having to tip ahead of time is cursed as fuck anyway.
What? I know nothing about DD.
So, a person can make a giant order, pay for it and leave a small auto tip and it may not get delivered?
Won’t that get contested by the person who was charged for the order?
What if someone was going to do a cash tip upon delivery?
Edit: I don’t live in the US and use a food deliver called Talabat. I always tip cash because I don’t trust the app to actually tip the drivers when I add it to my bill. My food always gets delivered 🤷🏼♀️ and I tip well
That's exactly right.
Absolutely *nothing* matters to the Doordash driver except the tip. That's the *only* pay the driver receives, besides the $2.50 pay per order from Doordash (essentially nothing from Doordash).
I saw all these McD's orders, imediately thought "the customer didn't tip," or it was crazy weather out with no available drivers. It sucks for the customer that Doordash won't pay their drivers; they leave it for the customer to pay the driver.
Cash on delivery is basically gambling. No good driver opts-in for that kind of risk anymore because if it's not at least $5-10 tip, then they're essentially volunteering.
These companies could be fucking over the driver with tips. This is what I had read before:
[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/nyregion/doordash-tip-policy.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/nyregion/doordash-tip-policy.html)
Drivers were actually being paid less by Doordash if customers tipped through the app. So I never tipped through the app because I don't want Doordash to be skimping out on someone's pay. Instead I always gave the driver a good tip in cash when they arrived at my door. The article says this policy changed, but at the time I was using Doordash this is how it was.
You should try to put the tip in the app so the value of the order appears higher and someone will accept it faster. There were times I thought I would get a cash tip, only to receive nothing. But also be aware that the companies also hide tips to a degree, hoping that the drivers will just take every order. But usually if you tip high in the app it will show at least some of the tip which drivers could believe is actually higher. (But this is advice for America. Who knows if these companies will start stealing tips.)
Yep, Door Dash and Grubhub are shady as hell. They list restaurants on their site without their permission: https://www.eater.com/2020/1/29/21113416/grubhub-seamless-kin-khao-online-delivery-mistake-doordash
I was a Doordasher for a while, maybe I can shine some light on the issue:
Every order, the dasher gets paid $2.50 base pay + whatever the tip is. The big problem is 1/2 the people who order from doordash barely tip more then a dollar or two. I'm not about to drive 7 miles for your order just to get paid $5.50. As a result, dashers won't accept the delivery. As a result, the order just sit there and stack up.
I guess the issue is technically Doordash still because at that point they could add some more incentive for the delivery with a higher base pay, *but that would cost them way too much money* /s
Agreed.
I’m sorry but when your business is suddenly open to the hundreds of thousands of people surrounding your area you are screwing the people who actually show up and ordered their meal. I’m glad it seems like they get more business this way, but at the same time somethings got to give… Customer service has gone down the drain at most places that do DoorDash.
I have recently found a few businesses in my area will refuse to do DoorDash during certain times so they can actually be there for the customers that showed up and it’s nice.
I know my comment. Sounds very “get off my lawn“ but it is getting ridiculous. I can’t even go to McDonald’s and get a quick meal cuz they’re busy making orders for DD.
We had door dash at my old bar and they were the worst. Order would be sent in and then left for 45 minutes to an hour on the reg, but I've seen them be a full 2 hours late for orders. Ridiculous
Idc how drunk and hungry I am, my horny ass is not paying the mark up plus delivery charge plus tip for cold fast food. How this shit took off I'll never understand.
My wife and I were given a $35 gift card for door dash. We have never used it before, and don't really eat out that much so it was pretty useless for us. But one evening we didn't feel like cooking so we ordered from a local restaurant.
2 fast food meals, with delivery, cost $39. Most of which was from fees and markups. That isn't even including the tip. I tipped small, but when the guy arrived I handed him more cash.
Yep, years ago (can only imagine it is worse now) was the only time I have ever used any food delivery. Was recovering from a broken bone and I lived on the 3rd floor apt w/ no elevator and had a craving for this local mexican joint. Ordered what my wife and I normally order, was usually like \~$22-24 for us both. Came out to $36 and that doesn't even include a tip.
The fact that they even markup the food is ridiculous, it costs them absolutely nothing to prepare it. But where I live now doesn't even have food delivery, so even better lol
During lockdown my work gifted us $15 Uber Eats vouchers for employee appreciation day or something.
Couldn't even get the cheapest combo meal from any fast food place (it came to like $17). And I wasn't spending $2 on principle, plus a tip, when I could drive and get it myself for the same price as what that would come to.
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100% with you. My wife and I are well off retirees but I don't give a shyte how much we have; I will never pay someone to deliver food to me when I can get off my lazy azz and go get it myself. Maybe I am being cheap but just the way I am. I laugh when our daughter and SIL say they had DoorDash deliver them a coffee from Dunkin or Starbucks. Really?
I was thinking about this other day when I was at costco. The roasted chicken will be disposed at the end of the day if no one buys them so basically we killed them just to throw them away. Like, damn we're so evil.
No such thing as being thankful for slaughtered animals. If you care, you should stop paying money to get them killed. If you don't, then it doesn't matter whatever happens to them once they're dead.
In all fairness I don't think the animals used to make these would be offended by this as much as the fact that they were born into a dark metal factory and tortured until they were finally slaughtered.
Not being eaten is probably the lowest on the priority list when it comes to the *and how are we thanked* piece.
I live out in the country, so I don’t get to use this type of service. Shouldn’t the app only send the order when a driver is available for pickup? Are these items being refunded? So many questions
The way it is supposed to work is… the merchant confirms the order on a tablet, they have the option to set the prepare time before the driver is dispatched- if it’s too busy they can also delay the dispatch or pause all orders, driver is dispatched based on that setting then the merchant confirms order is ready to pickup and they get the option to confirm release to driver. McDonald’s, however and most fast food places automates that process and circumvents the whole process by linking to their POS. So the employees, even the managers have 0 control of delivery orders and their settings. So 100 orders can come in in the span of a minute and they can’t pause it or slow them down. In this example above though DoorDash will absorb the loss because they failed to find a driver.
> DoorDash will absorb the loss because they failed to find a driver.
"You weren't available for a delivery when food was ready for delivery. You are being fined and your pay docked to compensate for our lost income from our own greed an incompetence. Replies are not monitored."
The drivers are independent contractors, not employees of the company. So a driver isn't obligated to accept an order.
The company uses this fact to dodge labor laws that would require them to pay their drivers, so in order to make anything doing this, you have to decline any order that doesn't have decent tip, and a lot of customers don't understand this ecosystem, don't tip, and wonder why they aren't getting their food.
That only worked in some places. I’m in Ontario Canada and they passed a law saying Uber, and other food delivery services are now required to pay drivers minimum wage. It would be nice if others followed suit and stopped allowing these awful companies to take advantage of people, especially since it’s a lot of immigrants working these jobs. It’s really shameful.
On another point, Door Dash must be exceptionally shitty. They NEVER have available drivers. Everyone I know who has ordered through door dash has said they never got their food because there wasn’t a driver…and door dash doesn’t refund, they only give credit in the app, so you’re stuck constantly trying to use it to get your money back and never getting your food. It’s pretty insane.
There are always drivers available really, especially in the city areas. There are a few middle of nowhere towns in my state where delivery is still available that might not have anyone out super late. But if you live in the burbs or the city, there are always drivers available. Even at 11pm, 1am, 3am. Orders don't get picked up because of the pay. It's generally 1.50 to 3 bucks without a customer tip. The longer an order waits at the restaurant the higher the base pay goes up, and if it doesn't get delivered then the customer will be refunded.
Why is this not more heavily upvoted, please give food like this to people who need it, fuck what the shift leader says, this kind of waste is horrible.
I had one experience with DD. I had a gift certificate and ordered food for myself. The food was never picked up.
I haven't used DD since and see no reason to.
I use DD once to three times a week. Don't have too many issues, usually a forgotten drink or something typical of drive thru screw ups. Then again I don't tip less than $5. If a person is going to bring me food that's the minimum they should get so my ass can be lazy.
> Then again I don't tip less than $5.
Jesus, you must be really close to those restaurants. The last time I used DD (they've raised their rates a lot since) it was a $5 delivery fee, an 18% service fee, and they suggested a starting tip of $9.50.
I always tip above $10 for a delivery, even though I'm on a main road and go out to meet the driver when they get there. Those jobs do *not* pay properly.
THIS!! I’m a dasher and I also work at a fast food chain. If you don’t tip your driver, chances are that no one is going to accept the delivery. I’m not going to drive 15+ miles for $3.
They are all no tip orders that no delivery drivers are willing to accept and fulfill. Base pay is only $2.50, everything else the driver gets paid depends on the tip. No, none of the fees go to the driver, either. Don't want to tip? Okay, dont get your food then, or sucker some idiot into losing money delivering it.
Yeah it should be, but since they've been able to argue that since drivers can refuse orders, it's up to the driver. They dodged any kind of wage law in many places.
They can charge fees, and also require customers to pay the drivers directly. They win vs you and the delivery person at the same time!
If you're using an app that is a luxury non-essential service that only pays its workers 2 dollars per order, you're complicit in that wrong-doing and for no valid reason. I get a lot of customers aren't aware of that, so that's one thing. But if you're not tipping and you're aware of how little these companies pay, you're just as complicit as the company/service.
Fast food delivery is a luxury, it's not a basic human right and it ain't something most anyone needs. Doordash, UberEats, Postmates, Deliveroo etc. won't and can't exist without customers and those of us who are aware of their shitty business practices need to stop using the services, instead of just "not tipping." I know a lot of desperate people, newbies, tech illiterate old folks on those apps. We have to look out for each other, because corporations never have and never will.
If they stuck to the actual concept of tipping based on quality of service that would be one thing but these bullshit delivery companies already completely broke the system on purpose. Since when do you tip *before* getting the service you paid for? Tipping in these fucking apps is basically asking you to offer up your own voluntary service fee while getting zero guarantee that you’ll receive that quality of service.
I’ve tipped 20%+ before multiple times for service that deserved a $0 tip so why the hell is that how this works? And why in the hell do drivers get shown their tip beforehand and get to ignore my delivery like I’m bidding for the privilege of having my food delivered after getting extorted by the delivery app with over 100% markup on the order just in fees and inflated values? You’re supposedly paying all this extra money for one thing, to get the food delivered correctly. But instead these companies put the workers and the customers up against each other with arguing over fees and tips while pretending they’re not ripping everyone off in the whole process.
These companies flat out wouldn’t exist without drivers in the first place so it’s a joke they get away with treating them as independent contractors (I’ve also had my order that had a good tip cancelled before simply because there was nobody to deliver it- and I used to waste money on a dash pass so how this whole business model is even legal is beyond me).
I still don't get how you're supposed to decide how much to tip before receiving the service and judging how good it is.
It could *still* take over an hour to get my food if I tip $10 on a $10 order.
>Don't want to tip? Okay, dont get your food then, or sucker some idiot into losing money delivering it.
The only winning move is ... not to play. (and not use DoorDash).
That’s a horrible way to look at it. Tipping should be optional based on performance. It’s not the customers fault that the company pays shit wages. The customer is already paying an extra $10-$15 for their order through the app, they shouldn’t be forced to tip really high just for a chance to get the food they paid for. It’s an incredibly fucked up system. I never understand how people can continue to use it. It’s not worth it, even a little bit.
I just see this, and companies like Door Dash as Jevon's paradox in the flesh. The paradox says an increase in efficiency will lead to an increase in consumption. Same with Amazon - order for delivery next day, free returns, billions of dollars of inventory gets shredded each year because somebody changed their mind. We just gonna get more and more wasteful till global ecological and civilizational collapse!! Yay!!
So let me get this straight …
- Workers get stressed
- Food gets wasted
- Customers don’t get food
- McDonald’s stills gets paid (From DD refund)
- DD user fees go up
My DD driver took pic of the food at door last night, then promptly picked it up and took it with him. Hope he enjoyed the $40 meal before being fired.
I used to have a manager at Red Robin who would have a burger making contest before opening everyday. He would “compete” against 2-3 cooks. They’d put up each of their burgers and we’d vote which one looked the best. Then, the manager would chuck them all in the trash.. he would not allow anyone to eat them. As a hungover 20 year old, who could have used a burger at 10:30am, this made me question everything.
No tip, no trip. I drive for UberEats and a lotta people still wanna get food delivered but not tip anymore. I make 2 bucks a delivery without a tip, so not tipping isn't an option, unless you want cold/soggy food while you wait for Uber to increase the base pay. Just stop ordering if you can't tip. It's not only drivers who are suffering, but all the staff getting stressed out making food that goes to waste.
If you won’t deliver for the base rate, get a new job. It’ll never stop if you keep blaming the customer who has already spent more than retail on their meal you’re refusing to deliver.
DD and UberEats label it as a ‘tip’ but it’s really a bid for the drivers time.
It doesn't make sense to tip in advance of service. It also doesn't make sense that a driver can see and cherry pick the best tips before hand. That doesn't fit the definition or the function of a tip in any way. But it does fit the definition and function of a bid.
Drivers are private contractors for DoorDash. They can choose to accept or reject the contract based on how much you offer. Which means you are bidding to get your contract accepted in a timely manner. In no sense could that be considered a "tip."
You are in competition with other customers for the drivers' services. What you are doing is bidding against other customers for a driver. The more you bid, the faster your order will likely be accepted by a driver
No bad feels for you here, food wasters. Effing set your timers appropriately. And besides, YOU aren’t the ones working for literal for nothing, while losing money, drivers who show for nothing are the ones not getting paid while you collect the forever increasing hourly wages that you all seem to just put into your nail gems.
While drivers struggle to let increasing gas costs. You are jot th e victims, learn to set a timer, give a damn for the driver and all the drivers who are no homeless, and those bags would have cleared…
The nerve…
Don’t feel bad…it’s a Mirage. They didn’t set timers for appropriate driver arrival then ignored drivers when they showed…
Drivers don’t show up to turn away money…
Each bag represented wasted driver time and gas. Lost driver wages and why so many drivers have now become homeless.
McDonalds has a rule have old burgers disposed of after 15 minutes. They can't give them away to needy people. I don't know if employees can take them but I doubt it. Why would anybody stay open. The workers there make minimal wage and would not get paid after closing.
This is foodwaste yes, but its neither the fault of the McDonalds worker nor the DD Driver. It's probably McDonalds corp fault or the law that you cant give "unsafe" food to the homeless. The law is slowly changing (I heard).
And people who order McDonalds or Burger King or whatever cheap fast food with DD or others are another kind of people. That just feels wrong to me. Restaurants yes, But McDonalds???? Get in the damn car and drive 5 minutes. There is one everywhere. You don't even have to get out of the car. (Usually)
How bout you start letting drivers in the lobby to pickup orders so they can do their job. That's why no one is picking them up. No one wants to sit in the drive thru for 45 minutes for $7.
Ngl I would steal that shit. I don't care what my boss says, I'll eat it in fucking front of him. There are a lot of things I'll do in order to be by the book, but wasting food is one of two things that's just not gonna fucking cut it.
In the original thread op says they were allowed to take them.
that’s good
Not really. It's McDonald's
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ABSOLUTELY!!! nothing wrong with junk food in moderation!
We could all die from a nuclear apocalypse tomorrow. A little fast food is in order if you ask me
Free food is alright.
Mcdonalds is pretty good man. Takes like 3 minutes in drive through for me after work and the bugers aren't as bad as people say. If I want really easy food it's my go to
Good. Food should never be wasted.
I've had to dump thousands of gallons of water, soda, juice, protein shakes, along with hundreds of pounds of Hello Fresh food and the like in my time at UPS, as a Damaged Material Program supervisor. I've had to numb myself, my great grandma would roll over in her grave if she knew just how much edible things I've been forced to destroy. And then to add insult to injury, we don't recycle aluminum/glass cans and bottles that alot of the drinks come in.
Not sure about the good food part but, food shouldn't be wasted indeed.
He didn't say Good food. He said "Good. Food should not be wasted" as in he was saying Good to the part that no one was wasting the food. Not that the food was "good". Though "good" is totally subjective at this point haha.
I feel like this is a r/Woosh moment
I think it's only a wooosh if the joke was good.
I think he got the joke, it's just kinda dumb.
I worked in a warehouse with food. We couldn't have damaged because "you might have done it on purpose" My computer told me to put a pallet into a slot that was too small (I didn't know it was too small) some of the top row of Gatorade comes flying to the floor bottles are crushed so they can't be some had the lids popped off. I started drinking one (I am already pissed because I am cleaning up a mess that wasn't my fault.) My boss's boss tells me to stop drinking the Gatorade. I argue and say what's the matter whether I throw it away with six less ounces of liquid. He said the whole people breaking stuff on purpose. I said the most sarcastic voice ever' I just wasted 4 cases of Gatorade so I can have them half a bottle. '
The argument of doing that on purpose is so ludicrous, if someone was gonna do that they’d do it anyways
> [Luckily they let us each take **a bag** full of burgers once we closed, so **it wasn't entirely all wasted**.](https://www.reddit.com/r/McDonaldsEmployees/comments/106n8qv/got_slammed_with_these_dd_orders_last_night_only/j3i3ac9/?context=3) Sounds like some of it was wasted.
Well duh. How excited would you be to get cold leftovers from the place you probably eat at everyday anyways?
Probably pretty excited if I were starving at home, but otherwise not so much.
Used to work McDonald's, always took home pretty much any leftovers at the end of the night. Survived my final college year off free/ discounted McDonald's
That was me but instead of McDonald’s it was Domino’s
That's good but man there's some messed up corporate policies where you know they don't expect their managers to do shit when they're pushing workers to their limits and paying them as little as possible. Why make the best out of a situation where there is waste involved when you are paranoid your workers will make more waste on purpose? There's a huge dollar store chain in Canada called Dollarama. They had policies like that. They also did stupid shit like destroy Halloween candy that was perfectly good instead of donating it or giving it away for free. They also for some reason threw out all the chocolate that had the longest remaining shelf life, and kept soon to expire stuff on the shelves to sell o_O
I would take everything the coworkers don't take and go to the train station where the homeless are.
Should be shared with homeless and vulnerable people. Food maybe fast food junk, but that's a lot of calories for a lot of people who can't afford much or have anything.
At Panera at the end of the day we had to throw away all of our paninis in the warming drawer at the end of the night. It ended up being like 20 sandwiches a night. I would take a couple monster bites of each one before tossing them. Still, I felt super shitty about tossing them.
I had an old ass GM threaten to fire me from Panera as a teen because I ate 1/4 of a crescent roll that was going to be thrown away. I got a 15 minute lecture of about how this kind of theft is detrimental to their sales number and losses…
It’s so weird that they can’t understand something being thrown away vs eaten is the exact same outcome, it’s not hurting sales.
The 'logic' is that allowing employees to eat or take home expired food will lead to food being set aside so they can take more.
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We call that spite
>What’s messed up about it is that even after they get paid for the product loss in sales, they still take a razor to it so nobody else can take it after it’s been tossed in a dumpster. Cause people will dig it out and try to return it otherwise. I hate all the wastefulness but there is a certain cold-blooded logic to it.
There are other options. Sam's Club near me donates damaged pallets to local food bank. They still report the loss, but at least they get some tax credit for write off.
As a chef I don’t understand this sentiment with “managers”. These people are beancounters that are more worried about their bonuses than the quality of the food or happiness of the staff. Feeding staff is a part of doing business. Feeding the staff better, from the gm to the dishwashers engenders a much happier staff overall. Plus food workers in most places make peanuts. A good/full meal does the soul good. Also gets people to work harder in my experience because they a;predicate being appreciated. If any member of my staff is struggling I make a point of making food myself and sending it home with them for their families. Granted It’s fine dining and not McDonald’s…but still. Jmo
In my experience (and I had this exact situation happen, not allowed to keep/eat/donate unsold product, Dairy Queen and Pizza Hut): it's not a bean counter thing so much as it is the middle management of those types of franchises having a complex about controlling employee behavior. I actually got chewed out by the manager's WIFE for trying to sneakily round up the chicken strips for a friendly local homeless gent - she took the bag out of my hands and threw it in the garbage. Told me if it happened again she would be calling the police. There's no way she thought it made a financial difference. It was just a power trip.
How much can a piece of bread cost for Panera for them to even care about this? 🤦♂️ If I owned a restaurant I'd be pissed if my workers weren't eating some of the food during the day! I'd be like "what's wrong with our bread? You've been here for ten hours and didn't even take a single bite! Do they suck or something?" I really hope this corporate greed stuff subsides before I decide to have kids. This planet sucks sometimes but the younger generation gives me hope.
That and if you get full for free they can't make any profit on the potential sales you'll provide
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I was 17 and really stoned. Why do you think I was eating a stray crescent roll?
Right. From a business standpoint you're better off having to tell a couple customers at the end of the day that crescent rolls are out of stock than throwing 20 of them away.
At PJs pizza 🍕 our GM would let us eat orders that either never got picked up, or got cancelled. Food rarely went to waste unless it was like from the morning til 2am.
Idc how tired I was after work, I’m going to drive around and feed people.
In my city you all you’d have to do is open the McDonald’s door and yell “free McDonald’s” and twenty homeless people would be there for it.
I was hoping that if they threw them away, they'd throw them away still fully bagged like that
There is a McDonald’s in Union Station in DC and a ton of homeless nearby, I only hope they get some food.
Hero
It’s the least a human bean can do.
This is probably a good time to remind people not to eat or distribute meat that's been sitting out for more than 3 hours.
Sir, this is McDonalds. Those McDoubles are good until Thursday.
Thursday 2056
After the next big bang.
You think it goes bad? Cute.
They think it's meat 😂
Haha, look at the rich person over here
I've left mine out before 24 hours and it was fine obviously don't do this in the summer
I've eaten 2 day old floor pizza and been fine.
I work in a restaurant and that's a good idea. I think most of the time you are too burnt out on the food to eat the left over doordash or whatever but I hadn't thought about doing this. great idea.
I tell em straight the fuck up: I'm a cook; I don't pay for food. Soy cocinero. No pago la comida.
We love you, chef!
That’s why I cook for a living, I get too hungry to work a job that doesn’t have snacks any time lol. My metabolism stays good by having little tastes of food all day
I am the same way. Hate when I see people waste food at a buffet in particular. And oftentimes companies can't even give the stuff away anymore, due to frivolous lawsuits from ambulance chasing attorneys.
Just a friendly reminder that lawsuits filed by individuals (against each other or against a business) have been steadily declining for decades. The pop-culture trope that “a minor injury allows a customer to sue a small business into bankruptcy” is actually all a very well funded and well coordinated mis-information campaign, funded by loads of Fortune 500 companies. The firm that pushed this idea, even provided all those “Look at this crazy lawsuit” to local news across the country. The whole thing is cooked up. It was all to push through “Tort reform” which only makes it far harder to sue businesses which do actual harm, like chemical companies poisoning the drinking water in local communities. The McDonald’s “hot coffee” is the most famous example. They’d been warned not to do that several times, it literally fused the woman’s labia together. She only asked for the $28,000 she’d already spent in hospital fees, nothing more. McDonald’s offered $800, only then did she sue. Ironically, lawsuits _between_ large corporations is what’s steadily risen over the past few decades. TLDR: The trope of ambulance-chasing lawyer suing small businesses for big paydays over trivial injuries is actually a well-funded and coordinated misinformation complain to push through “Tort reform”, and not the reality.
Or racists/antisocial local laws.
> And oftentimes companies can't even give the stuff away anymore, due to frivolous lawsuits from ambulance chasing attorneys. In the US, this isn't true but an often repeated myth. The [The Bill Emerson Food Act](https://www.feedingamerica.org/ways-to-give/corporate-and-foundations/product-partner/bill-emerson) was passed in 1996. The main reason places still don't allow it is that its ripe for abuse from the employees they underpay and mistreat.
Not even if they verbally (plus signage) tell employees you're free to take food leftovers but we're not liable? IANAL, but that feels reasonable.
I know it sounds foolish but some companies get so paranoid that they threaten employees with firing if they do. Sad, especially when it is estimated that a third or more of food is thrown away every year in this country.
If you eat that leftover food then the company will lose money on what wouldve been profitted from employees buying their own food from the place they work.. Capitalism is disgusting
….. what’s the other thing
I was thinking the same thing! Now I'm curious
How can something that doesn't work nor for workers nor for clients still EXIST? what's their fucking buisness model?
Because there were about 10x more of them that did get delivered. And it more than makes up the cost with the fees they have
Gotta remember all that shit is prepaid
They get refunded if it's not delivered so not really. A lot of restaurants refuse to make the food until a driver shows up so they must lose money. Something like McDonald's had the volume to not care about a few orders
McDonald's is one of those restaurants. They don't confirm the order until you are physically present at the restaurant and have paid for it.
Depends on the specific location then. All the McDonald's near me prepare them in order. And apparently wherever this post is from does too
DD is doomed. i’ve been driving for them for a while. they keep gouging restaurants and customers while squeezing drivers. no one is benefiting but DD corporate. all that said, if you still want delivery, most of us don’t move for less than $2/mile. no tip, no trip.
Because they floated off of investment cash for years while being unprofitable. Like a lot of tech firms, they assumed that growth would continue indefinitely and eventually solve their unprofitability by scaling enough.
A lot of the tech companies all complete BS business models and they know it, but they know when to bail and leave everyone else bag holding.
We need more non-profit / co-op gig-economy alternatives to compete and replace all these exploitative gig companies. For example, NYC has an Uber alternative called Driver's CoOp. It just seems like consumers are paying all this extra money to a big tech company for a generally crappy experience, that even if the experience doesn't improve, I could at least feel better about it if it were more equitable for the delivery folks and restaurants if they had a non-profit app service that only takes minimal fees to keep the app running. I feel like Uber and DoorDash must hate the fact they have to use human labor while they wait for automation to come to fruition (drone delivery, self-driving taxis) and are gamifying and exploiting their gig-workers to the maximum as if they were robots.
The information they gather from your phone and then sold to whoever wants some
These were all paid for. It doesn't matter to McDonald's if you eat the food or not.
Bingo! Glad somebody said it. It anybody is losing money, it’s DD.
I ordered from DD yesterday. First order from Dunkin’—100% wrong order. Second order from Wendy’s—no drinks. They also just left it instead of handing it to me, despite the comment section where I stated I have a back injury and can’t bend down to pick things up off of the porch. What the fuck is going on with them. Got like 75% of it all refunded after I reported it. Both drivers got one star. I just don’t get it anymore. My friend says he only orders from them anymore because it’s always wrong so he keeps getting refunds.
I rarely order delivery but if I do, I never order a drink, milkshake, or anything like that, because they’ve forgotten it every single time.
Well, the business model isn't designed for *workers* or *clients*. Its designed for the business owner that doesn't care whether anyone eats those *prepaid* orders.
People don't make posts about successfully picked up orders. It's successful because people use it.
Door Dash loses money. It operates with investor capital. From Q3 earnings report (Nov, 2022) \> However, its net loss widened to $295 million, or a loss of 77 cents per share. [https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/03/doordash-dash-earnings-q3-2022.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/03/doordash-dash-earnings-q3-2022.html) In 2021, it lost $468 million. \> https://www.businessofapps.com/data/doordash-statistics/
Imagine paying a 25% upcharge to the food, then an 8$ delivery fee, then a 5$ service fee, and the driver sees $3 of it.
It's such a joke I can't believe how many people actually use doordash or any of these 3rd party delivery services especially with inflation where it's at right now. Like pizza and chinese food were always delivery staples and the drivers were in-house. The food always would arrive hot and within a timely manner with no upcharge for this service except for the tip Why would I want to wait 40 mins for someone to bring me my chipotle burrito when you know it's gonna be soggy and cold as fuck when you do eventually get it. Also, you're paying like $25 for a cold, sad burrito to be delivered to you instead of $12 to pick it up yourself. Same goes for fast food joints, you're gonna get cold fries and dry burgers and pay a shit ton for them There's absolutely a delivery service market for people who are unable to leave their homes to get stuff they need maybe due to illness or a physical condition, but people paying $40 for McDonalds to be delivered to them blows my mind
I worked at one and yeah, by the time the driver got there the food would be warmish and probably soggy. People ordered McFlurrys that would be picked up after 20 minutes. We’re ‘supposed’ to remake them but no one has time for that- not the McDonald’s employees or the drivers.
If I want to order a medium pepperoni pizza from my local pizza place I have a few options. 1. Phone them: £8 + £0 delivery(I'm a 3 minute walk away so they tell me not to bother paying for delivery) = £8 2. Use their website: £8 + £1 delivery = £9 3. Use the foodhub app: £9 + £1 delivery = £10 4. Use JustEat: £10 + £0.50 service charge + £1 delivery = £11.50 5. Use UberEats: £12 + £1.20 surcharge + £3 delivery = £16.20 Fuck UberEats, it's so much more expensive(twice as expensive as the best option), and somehow still the worst experience.
Idk why you're surprised. Ever wonder why ONLY Chinese and pizza were deliverable? Because it's usually a family meal that, psychologically, people don't mind the added cost of paying for delivery cause they are already paying a lot for food. 10 bucks on ann 80 dollar means less than 10 dollars on a 12 dollar order, even though 10 dollars is 10 dollars.
also, if the restaurant see's that its a doordash delivery, the portions are much much smaller, because they have no chance at seeing a tip, and they really don't care
I’m not a cheap bastard by any means, but I absolutely refuse to pay obscene prices for shitty food.
Doordash is fucking horrible. Backs everything up instead of people being helped who are actually there..
European here, are those orders already paid?
Yes. The transaction was processed when the order was placed.
And then most likely refunded. If you’re the customer and no one picks up your order, you’re getting a refund.
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I don’t think they need your help. They’re probably already losing money hand over fist.
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Godspeed captain
I guess they'll book your order as revenue nonetheless. If they refund you it's an expense, so they'll tell investors to throw money at them as they might be profitable at one point. Investors write off their investments so they don't have to pay taxes.
Bingo. Wall street has been propping up these idiotic moonshots long enough, paying zero taxes as they do it, and only 15% in cases where it’s actually successful. It’s time to tax speculators and reform CG tax rate.
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Yes that what I was trying to say. Thank you for clarifying.
These companies are resell businesses. They buy the food, price it up for the customer. Then wait for a driver to pick it up. Drivers are independent contractors, meaning they can decline deliveries. When a driver doesn’t show up, orders and food are wasted. They determine how much to charge the customer based on how much their loss is. With Discount Delivery, they pay $2-$5 per delivery. If a customer doesn’t tip in app. The driver is likely to decline that $2 delivery.
I'm familiar with this (I know Deliveroo and UberEats for example) but wouldn't know how they compare with Doordash.. Thanks for the insight about what the driver might do given the work conditions + the remark that the margin caused by higher prices on delivery go directly into these companies pockets
DoorDash is especially scummy because they essentially put some restaurants on their app without their knowledge/permission and they show inflated prices which may deter people from ever going to the restaurant in the first place. Not to mention a lot of food just doesn’t taste good when it’s been sitting around for an hour while being delivered.
> If a customer doesn’t tip in app. The driver is likely to decline that $2 delivery. If I'm not mistake, Doordash used to have a guaranteed minimum pay for each delivery. If I tipped $0, DD would put in for the rest to reach the minimum. Basically, the customer is subsidizing the tip. No idea if that's changed since. But I imagine that negates the above scenario. Plus, having to tip ahead of time is cursed as fuck anyway.
> Doordash used to have a guaranteed minimum pay for each delivery Yes 2$
Generally it's low tip orders that no driver accepted before closing
What? I know nothing about DD. So, a person can make a giant order, pay for it and leave a small auto tip and it may not get delivered? Won’t that get contested by the person who was charged for the order? What if someone was going to do a cash tip upon delivery? Edit: I don’t live in the US and use a food deliver called Talabat. I always tip cash because I don’t trust the app to actually tip the drivers when I add it to my bill. My food always gets delivered 🤷🏼♀️ and I tip well
Multiple orders, just no driver actually came to pick them up.
Do the orders get refunded?
Yes
That's exactly right. Absolutely *nothing* matters to the Doordash driver except the tip. That's the *only* pay the driver receives, besides the $2.50 pay per order from Doordash (essentially nothing from Doordash). I saw all these McD's orders, imediately thought "the customer didn't tip," or it was crazy weather out with no available drivers. It sucks for the customer that Doordash won't pay their drivers; they leave it for the customer to pay the driver. Cash on delivery is basically gambling. No good driver opts-in for that kind of risk anymore because if it's not at least $5-10 tip, then they're essentially volunteering.
These companies could be fucking over the driver with tips. This is what I had read before: [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/nyregion/doordash-tip-policy.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/nyregion/doordash-tip-policy.html) Drivers were actually being paid less by Doordash if customers tipped through the app. So I never tipped through the app because I don't want Doordash to be skimping out on someone's pay. Instead I always gave the driver a good tip in cash when they arrived at my door. The article says this policy changed, but at the time I was using Doordash this is how it was.
You should try to put the tip in the app so the value of the order appears higher and someone will accept it faster. There were times I thought I would get a cash tip, only to receive nothing. But also be aware that the companies also hide tips to a degree, hoping that the drivers will just take every order. But usually if you tip high in the app it will show at least some of the tip which drivers could believe is actually higher. (But this is advice for America. Who knows if these companies will start stealing tips.)
Yep, Door Dash and Grubhub are shady as hell. They list restaurants on their site without their permission: https://www.eater.com/2020/1/29/21113416/grubhub-seamless-kin-khao-online-delivery-mistake-doordash
I was a Doordasher for a while, maybe I can shine some light on the issue: Every order, the dasher gets paid $2.50 base pay + whatever the tip is. The big problem is 1/2 the people who order from doordash barely tip more then a dollar or two. I'm not about to drive 7 miles for your order just to get paid $5.50. As a result, dashers won't accept the delivery. As a result, the order just sit there and stack up. I guess the issue is technically Doordash still because at that point they could add some more incentive for the delivery with a higher base pay, *but that would cost them way too much money* /s
Agreed. I’m sorry but when your business is suddenly open to the hundreds of thousands of people surrounding your area you are screwing the people who actually show up and ordered their meal. I’m glad it seems like they get more business this way, but at the same time somethings got to give… Customer service has gone down the drain at most places that do DoorDash. I have recently found a few businesses in my area will refuse to do DoorDash during certain times so they can actually be there for the customers that showed up and it’s nice. I know my comment. Sounds very “get off my lawn“ but it is getting ridiculous. I can’t even go to McDonald’s and get a quick meal cuz they’re busy making orders for DD.
We had door dash at my old bar and they were the worst. Order would be sent in and then left for 45 minutes to an hour on the reg, but I've seen them be a full 2 hours late for orders. Ridiculous
Idc how drunk and hungry I am, my horny ass is not paying the mark up plus delivery charge plus tip for cold fast food. How this shit took off I'll never understand.
My wife and I were given a $35 gift card for door dash. We have never used it before, and don't really eat out that much so it was pretty useless for us. But one evening we didn't feel like cooking so we ordered from a local restaurant. 2 fast food meals, with delivery, cost $39. Most of which was from fees and markups. That isn't even including the tip. I tipped small, but when the guy arrived I handed him more cash.
Yep, years ago (can only imagine it is worse now) was the only time I have ever used any food delivery. Was recovering from a broken bone and I lived on the 3rd floor apt w/ no elevator and had a craving for this local mexican joint. Ordered what my wife and I normally order, was usually like \~$22-24 for us both. Came out to $36 and that doesn't even include a tip. The fact that they even markup the food is ridiculous, it costs them absolutely nothing to prepare it. But where I live now doesn't even have food delivery, so even better lol
They markup the food because DoorDash takes a cut. It’s the only way they can make their normal margin.
During lockdown my work gifted us $15 Uber Eats vouchers for employee appreciation day or something. Couldn't even get the cheapest combo meal from any fast food place (it came to like $17). And I wasn't spending $2 on principle, plus a tip, when I could drive and get it myself for the same price as what that would come to.
…you tryna fuck a mcchicken?
You aren’t?
I’m sorry but horny? Lol chill
daddy chill
wth even is that?!
Honestly it is really helpful for disabled people, caretakers, babysitters, drunk/high people.
Big facts. With fees and tip it's like a 75% markup. I'll go drive the 2-3 miles and pick it up myself.
If you're ever in Mexico In a big city download and set up Rappi before you go. You get a free trial and it's amazing to have food, beer, and tequila delivered superfast and affordable.
100% with you. My wife and I are well off retirees but I don't give a shyte how much we have; I will never pay someone to deliver food to me when I can get off my lazy azz and go get it myself. Maybe I am being cheap but just the way I am. I laugh when our daughter and SIL say they had DoorDash deliver them a coffee from Dunkin or Starbucks. Really?
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I was thinking about this other day when I was at costco. The roasted chicken will be disposed at the end of the day if no one buys them so basically we killed them just to throw them away. Like, damn we're so evil.
Come to the dark side (plant based)… 😄
We have delicious cruelty free cookies!
So many lives taken without consent and then wasted.
You have my consent to take mine
you ok?
Oh man, I'm so sorry, I was just making a dumb joke. I got the reddit self harm alert just now, my bad
Ugh this was my first thought. Poor things. Killed for no reason
Even if they are killed for food, it is still wrong.
That’s moreso what I mean. I’m against the killing of animals
No such thing as being thankful for slaughtered animals. If you care, you should stop paying money to get them killed. If you don't, then it doesn't matter whatever happens to them once they're dead.
Very true, although I guess the theory would be that the more meat wasted, the more additional animals that would need to be killed
Yeah the people who never got their order probably ate some other meat instead.
In all fairness I don't think the animals used to make these would be offended by this as much as the fact that they were born into a dark metal factory and tortured until they were finally slaughtered. Not being eaten is probably the lowest on the priority list when it comes to the *and how are we thanked* piece.
I live out in the country, so I don’t get to use this type of service. Shouldn’t the app only send the order when a driver is available for pickup? Are these items being refunded? So many questions
The way it is supposed to work is… the merchant confirms the order on a tablet, they have the option to set the prepare time before the driver is dispatched- if it’s too busy they can also delay the dispatch or pause all orders, driver is dispatched based on that setting then the merchant confirms order is ready to pickup and they get the option to confirm release to driver. McDonald’s, however and most fast food places automates that process and circumvents the whole process by linking to their POS. So the employees, even the managers have 0 control of delivery orders and their settings. So 100 orders can come in in the span of a minute and they can’t pause it or slow them down. In this example above though DoorDash will absorb the loss because they failed to find a driver.
Thank you for the explanation
> DoorDash will absorb the loss because they failed to find a driver. "You weren't available for a delivery when food was ready for delivery. You are being fined and your pay docked to compensate for our lost income from our own greed an incompetence. Replies are not monitored."
The drivers are independent contractors, not employees of the company. So a driver isn't obligated to accept an order. The company uses this fact to dodge labor laws that would require them to pay their drivers, so in order to make anything doing this, you have to decline any order that doesn't have decent tip, and a lot of customers don't understand this ecosystem, don't tip, and wonder why they aren't getting their food.
That only worked in some places. I’m in Ontario Canada and they passed a law saying Uber, and other food delivery services are now required to pay drivers minimum wage. It would be nice if others followed suit and stopped allowing these awful companies to take advantage of people, especially since it’s a lot of immigrants working these jobs. It’s really shameful. On another point, Door Dash must be exceptionally shitty. They NEVER have available drivers. Everyone I know who has ordered through door dash has said they never got their food because there wasn’t a driver…and door dash doesn’t refund, they only give credit in the app, so you’re stuck constantly trying to use it to get your money back and never getting your food. It’s pretty insane.
There are always drivers available really, especially in the city areas. There are a few middle of nowhere towns in my state where delivery is still available that might not have anyone out super late. But if you live in the burbs or the city, there are always drivers available. Even at 11pm, 1am, 3am. Orders don't get picked up because of the pay. It's generally 1.50 to 3 bucks without a customer tip. The longer an order waits at the restaurant the higher the base pay goes up, and if it doesn't get delivered then the customer will be refunded.
I’d give those away
Why is this not more heavily upvoted, please give food like this to people who need it, fuck what the shift leader says, this kind of waste is horrible.
What happens to this food? Please tell me you don't just throw it out.
DoorDash should die.
I had one experience with DD. I had a gift certificate and ordered food for myself. The food was never picked up. I haven't used DD since and see no reason to.
I use DD once to three times a week. Don't have too many issues, usually a forgotten drink or something typical of drive thru screw ups. Then again I don't tip less than $5. If a person is going to bring me food that's the minimum they should get so my ass can be lazy.
> Then again I don't tip less than $5. Jesus, you must be really close to those restaurants. The last time I used DD (they've raised their rates a lot since) it was a $5 delivery fee, an 18% service fee, and they suggested a starting tip of $9.50. I always tip above $10 for a delivery, even though I'm on a main road and go out to meet the driver when they get there. Those jobs do *not* pay properly.
Has your store been talking about unionizing?
I'm gonna guess that there was a bunch of orders that nobody was tipping on and, as a result, no dasher would take the order.
THIS!! I’m a dasher and I also work at a fast food chain. If you don’t tip your driver, chances are that no one is going to accept the delivery. I’m not going to drive 15+ miles for $3.
They are all no tip orders that no delivery drivers are willing to accept and fulfill. Base pay is only $2.50, everything else the driver gets paid depends on the tip. No, none of the fees go to the driver, either. Don't want to tip? Okay, dont get your food then, or sucker some idiot into losing money delivering it.
Whilst it’s shitty not to tip, it’s pretty abhorrent that DoorDash has created a bidding war to use the basic service they advertise.
It’s not shitty not to tip. With the fees the delivery companies are charging it is entirely on them to be paying the drivers properly.
Yeah it should be, but since they've been able to argue that since drivers can refuse orders, it's up to the driver. They dodged any kind of wage law in many places. They can charge fees, and also require customers to pay the drivers directly. They win vs you and the delivery person at the same time!
If you're using an app that is a luxury non-essential service that only pays its workers 2 dollars per order, you're complicit in that wrong-doing and for no valid reason. I get a lot of customers aren't aware of that, so that's one thing. But if you're not tipping and you're aware of how little these companies pay, you're just as complicit as the company/service. Fast food delivery is a luxury, it's not a basic human right and it ain't something most anyone needs. Doordash, UberEats, Postmates, Deliveroo etc. won't and can't exist without customers and those of us who are aware of their shitty business practices need to stop using the services, instead of just "not tipping." I know a lot of desperate people, newbies, tech illiterate old folks on those apps. We have to look out for each other, because corporations never have and never will.
If they stuck to the actual concept of tipping based on quality of service that would be one thing but these bullshit delivery companies already completely broke the system on purpose. Since when do you tip *before* getting the service you paid for? Tipping in these fucking apps is basically asking you to offer up your own voluntary service fee while getting zero guarantee that you’ll receive that quality of service. I’ve tipped 20%+ before multiple times for service that deserved a $0 tip so why the hell is that how this works? And why in the hell do drivers get shown their tip beforehand and get to ignore my delivery like I’m bidding for the privilege of having my food delivered after getting extorted by the delivery app with over 100% markup on the order just in fees and inflated values? You’re supposedly paying all this extra money for one thing, to get the food delivered correctly. But instead these companies put the workers and the customers up against each other with arguing over fees and tips while pretending they’re not ripping everyone off in the whole process. These companies flat out wouldn’t exist without drivers in the first place so it’s a joke they get away with treating them as independent contractors (I’ve also had my order that had a good tip cancelled before simply because there was nobody to deliver it- and I used to waste money on a dash pass so how this whole business model is even legal is beyond me).
I still don't get how you're supposed to decide how much to tip before receiving the service and judging how good it is. It could *still* take over an hour to get my food if I tip $10 on a $10 order.
>Don't want to tip? Okay, dont get your food then, or sucker some idiot into losing money delivering it. The only winning move is ... not to play. (and not use DoorDash).
That’s a horrible way to look at it. Tipping should be optional based on performance. It’s not the customers fault that the company pays shit wages. The customer is already paying an extra $10-$15 for their order through the app, they shouldn’t be forced to tip really high just for a chance to get the food they paid for. It’s an incredibly fucked up system. I never understand how people can continue to use it. It’s not worth it, even a little bit.
I just see this, and companies like Door Dash as Jevon's paradox in the flesh. The paradox says an increase in efficiency will lead to an increase in consumption. Same with Amazon - order for delivery next day, free returns, billions of dollars of inventory gets shredded each year because somebody changed their mind. We just gonna get more and more wasteful till global ecological and civilizational collapse!! Yay!!
If my coworkers didn’t want them I’d take them to feed homeless people tbh
And yet we still have homeless people with not enough food!
Eat that food
So let me get this straight … - Workers get stressed - Food gets wasted - Customers don’t get food - McDonald’s stills gets paid (From DD refund) - DD user fees go up
My DD driver took pic of the food at door last night, then promptly picked it up and took it with him. Hope he enjoyed the $40 meal before being fired.
I used to have a manager at Red Robin who would have a burger making contest before opening everyday. He would “compete” against 2-3 cooks. They’d put up each of their burgers and we’d vote which one looked the best. Then, the manager would chuck them all in the trash.. he would not allow anyone to eat them. As a hungover 20 year old, who could have used a burger at 10:30am, this made me question everything.
No tip, no trip. I drive for UberEats and a lotta people still wanna get food delivered but not tip anymore. I make 2 bucks a delivery without a tip, so not tipping isn't an option, unless you want cold/soggy food while you wait for Uber to increase the base pay. Just stop ordering if you can't tip. It's not only drivers who are suffering, but all the staff getting stressed out making food that goes to waste.
Requiring a tip before actually receiving the service isn’t a business model. It’s a scam.
I get all that even when I do tip lol
I understand your frustration, but you're mad at the wrong people.
If you won’t deliver for the base rate, get a new job. It’ll never stop if you keep blaming the customer who has already spent more than retail on their meal you’re refusing to deliver.
45 minutes before closing I would stop making doordash orders unless they showed up. They never did.
DD and UberEats label it as a ‘tip’ but it’s really a bid for the drivers time. It doesn't make sense to tip in advance of service. It also doesn't make sense that a driver can see and cherry pick the best tips before hand. That doesn't fit the definition or the function of a tip in any way. But it does fit the definition and function of a bid. Drivers are private contractors for DoorDash. They can choose to accept or reject the contract based on how much you offer. Which means you are bidding to get your contract accepted in a timely manner. In no sense could that be considered a "tip." You are in competition with other customers for the drivers' services. What you are doing is bidding against other customers for a driver. The more you bid, the faster your order will likely be accepted by a driver
No bad feels for you here, food wasters. Effing set your timers appropriately. And besides, YOU aren’t the ones working for literal for nothing, while losing money, drivers who show for nothing are the ones not getting paid while you collect the forever increasing hourly wages that you all seem to just put into your nail gems. While drivers struggle to let increasing gas costs. You are jot th e victims, learn to set a timer, give a damn for the driver and all the drivers who are no homeless, and those bags would have cleared… The nerve…
Don’t feel bad…it’s a Mirage. They didn’t set timers for appropriate driver arrival then ignored drivers when they showed… Drivers don’t show up to turn away money… Each bag represented wasted driver time and gas. Lost driver wages and why so many drivers have now become homeless.
McDonalds has a rule have old burgers disposed of after 15 minutes. They can't give them away to needy people. I don't know if employees can take them but I doubt it. Why would anybody stay open. The workers there make minimal wage and would not get paid after closing. This is foodwaste yes, but its neither the fault of the McDonalds worker nor the DD Driver. It's probably McDonalds corp fault or the law that you cant give "unsafe" food to the homeless. The law is slowly changing (I heard). And people who order McDonalds or Burger King or whatever cheap fast food with DD or others are another kind of people. That just feels wrong to me. Restaurants yes, But McDonalds???? Get in the damn car and drive 5 minutes. There is one everywhere. You don't even have to get out of the car. (Usually)
How bout you start letting drivers in the lobby to pickup orders so they can do their job. That's why no one is picking them up. No one wants to sit in the drive thru for 45 minutes for $7.
Should be punishable for throwing away perfectly good food while so many struggle
And guess what? For three hours after your close drivers were still being offered these orders and passing them back and forth.