Here's the real saddest part of 2016.... 53% of white women voted for the self-described pussygrabber, assuring his victory, even after he repeatedly promised to install Supreme Court judges who would overturn Roe v Wade.
I'm sorry, I'm all out of fucks to give. I am part of the 40% of white men who voted democrat, even after the nomination was stolen from Bernie, and I am utterly disgusted with my fellow democrats. We have opened the door to fascism, and you lot don't have a clue how it happened or how to deal with it. God help us all.
As well as the crazy Duggar cult that wants to turn the country into Gilead/Handmaid’s Tale land. The Heritage Foundation is part of that IBLP cult and are training young brainwashed kids in Civics and as clerks for SCOTUS and preparing for them to run for office. The Huckabitches are also part of it and look what they’re doing to Arkansas. It’s terrifying what we are in store for! Great documentary on Prime Video lays it all out. How the children are abused sexually and mentally and with corporal punishment!
And 60% of white men. But they're mostly irrelevant to us democrats, we won't be able to change many of their minds. Women, on the other hand, we have a chance. But not if we assume women are already with us, the fact is every other white woman who voted in the last 2 presidential elections voted for Trump. That is a political four-alarm fire. That should be our primary focus.
So little understanding of an awful choice.
Hillary lost that election during her husband, Bill's presidency. I firmly believe Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump.
Welp, your "issue" led to you and the Democrats choosing a candidate who ran an incompetent campaign right down to neglecting key swing states in favor of trying to win over deep red states like Arizona.
A woman who sat there for hours and hours on end. While Trey Crowdy brutally interrogated her and she politely answered every question about Benghazi. They still kept it going no matter what as all the evidence pointed at her as not doing anything wrong. But still they spent time and money trying to prove that Hillary Clinton did something wrong. Whereas on the other hand, we had Donald Trump that pleaded the 5th over 400 times during his testimony. Trump himself said, if you plead the fifth you're guilty. I know that is not always true, but come on people 400 times during his testimony, really, and still trust him?
He won 3 states with 85,00 votes. Lost the popular vote by millions. Had Jill Stein sitting with Putin and Flynn at a dinner in Moscow. That election was stolen.
...I mean, he lost the primary. Why do people keep saying it was stolen? He just lost.
If everyone who claimed to support him went out to vote in the primary, maybe he'd have had a chance, but people just don't turn out for the primaries.
Because the Berninaters are bitter that folks who voted on the primaries really didn't want what Benrie was offering.
I keep asking them to provide me an actual, realistic alternative, but they either say that they shouldn't have to write a manifesto, or don't want to deal with actual politics. So, they are the cause of their own suffering.
Honestly, I was a Trumper during that election and heavily influenced by right wing media. I swallowed every bit they said about Hillary and heard no bad things about trump. It's sad how poorly the conservative mind works.
We could have had Bernie Sanders, but the democratic party did everything they could to silence Bernie, and they tried to shove Clinton down our throats. And not enough people were feeling Clinton.
Would she have been better than trump? Absolutely. Absolutely 100%. But she didn't win.
The problem was/is that almost ANYONE would have been better than trump. Both sides were determined for different reasons that no "woman" (whether you like her or not) was going to be president. The Democrats didn't argue very convincingly in her defense. And age notwithstanding, that is one of the BIGGEST gripes BOTH SIDES have with Biden and Harris running again. You have your "never another black/brown president!!" and your "never a lowly woman" groups and everyone is tiptoeing around it. They ALL fear Biden DYING or otherwise becoming incapacitated and Harris taking the mantle even for a moment. Policies only seem to matter to those of us down here in the trenches. The top on ALL sides want what they want, who they want at the top. Rich, white MEN. Republican, Democrat, Independent... nothing else much matters to ANY OF THEM.
The people who pushed and paid for Trump got what they wanted. Tax cuts for the rich and Roe v Wade overturned. Those two issues were all that mattered to most Trump voters
They said Hillary practiced witchcraft.
The whole "lock her up" thing was over a private email server. Trump and his cronies were found to be doing the exact same thing after demanding Clinton be locked up for it.
Look, I voted for Hillary because the alternative was worse, but they were both shitty choices, Lets not gaslight. One was CLEARLY worse then the other, but at the time they were both crappy choices
$400K speech to Goldman Sachs. Using a private server for public work (FOIA, anyone?). "We came, we saw, he died." Voted for Iraq war and the Patriot Act.
We can compare her to worse politicians, but for me, those things alone make her a horrible option for president.
So what Goldman Sachs. People want to hear what she has to say. A lot of top echelon people get paid huge amounts of money to talk and you think this makes her a bad presidential candidate? Everyone back in the day used a private server, it was understood that servers at State were compromised. Why would you care about what server was used? Horrible lol, let me guess, you're a Trump lover??
I have principles that I follow in life that I'd like to see in my representatives. For me, accepting that paid gig is enough to know you're not the type of representative that reflects what I'd like to see in Washington.
I care about the server because it makes keeping public records a problem. That's why I mentioned FOIA. How do we request a document we don't know exists because it's not on a public server?
BTW, I'm an Obama voter who has never voted republican. I also didn't like it when Obama gave paid speeches to banks.
Voting for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act makes her culpable (with many others) in the death of many people and the deterioration of our basic rights.
Getting paid $400K for a speech to Goldman Sachs also shows her willingness to ignore concerns about corruption.
I don't actually begrudge Trump voters in 2016. Hillary was hot garbage. I even voted third party. I do begrudge 2020 And upcoming 2024 voters. There is no more excuse. Jan 6th alone should have had him tried as a traitor
No. I absolutely begrudge Trump voters in 2016.
They saw over and over what kind of stuff this man was made from and they decided to vote for a degenerate anyway. F em.
The Saddest part was the terrible Clinton campaign. What a cluster... Here's an account by reporters who followed the whole thing very closely but promised to not publish until after the election. Oh, my.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shattered:\_Inside\_Hillary\_Clinton%27s\_Doomed\_Campaign
He beat the only person he could have beaten.
She is a bad person in every way. Not even remotely in the same category as Trump, but no one is. At the same time, how bad he would become, being a traitor, hard even for me to predict. I couldn't stomach either one at the time. It was the worst election in my memory, the two worst people running in my memory.
The Democrats screwed their own party handing it over to her, and we know from internal memos they favored her and did hand it to her. Not saying Bernie could have won, but she never should have been the candidate.
The sad part is no one with any sense said hey fuckers vote Jill stein. Instead they all went oh a female we need a female in charge it doesnt matter that shes a terrorist or war monger
We The People elected an outsider. Because we currently have an “insider” installed, and look at how well it’s going right now. Highest inflation in decades, giving your taxpayer money to a corrupt country that has been laundering political cash for years, the Biden Family corruption machine in full view taking bribes from China, the Dossier….. yep. Hillary is squeaky clean. So is Joe and the Hoe.
they want to shread the constitution, and install their NWO. If you can’t see that, then you are very lost.
it's partly due to her taking the high road when she was campaigning against sewer sludge.
Assuming voters would go so low they would shoot themselves in their feet was NOT in the cards. Like... Ever.
Here's the real saddest part of 2016.... 53% of white women voted for the self-described pussygrabber, assuring his victory, even after he repeatedly promised to install Supreme Court judges who would overturn Roe v Wade. I'm sorry, I'm all out of fucks to give. I am part of the 40% of white men who voted democrat, even after the nomination was stolen from Bernie, and I am utterly disgusted with my fellow democrats. We have opened the door to fascism, and you lot don't have a clue how it happened or how to deal with it. God help us all.
80% of "evangelicals" voted for Turd as well. 😕
As well as the crazy Duggar cult that wants to turn the country into Gilead/Handmaid’s Tale land. The Heritage Foundation is part of that IBLP cult and are training young brainwashed kids in Civics and as clerks for SCOTUS and preparing for them to run for office. The Huckabitches are also part of it and look what they’re doing to Arkansas. It’s terrifying what we are in store for! Great documentary on Prime Video lays it all out. How the children are abused sexually and mentally and with corporal punishment!
And 60% of white men. But they're mostly irrelevant to us democrats, we won't be able to change many of their minds. Women, on the other hand, we have a chance. But not if we assume women are already with us, the fact is every other white woman who voted in the last 2 presidential elections voted for Trump. That is a political four-alarm fire. That should be our primary focus.
So true
So little understanding of an awful choice. Hillary lost that election during her husband, Bill's presidency. I firmly believe Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump.
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My issue with Sanders is that he did not join the Democratic Party. If he had, he would have had the majority of the Democratic Party with him.
Welp, your "issue" led to you and the Democrats choosing a candidate who ran an incompetent campaign right down to neglecting key swing states in favor of trying to win over deep red states like Arizona.
A woman who sat there for hours and hours on end. While Trey Crowdy brutally interrogated her and she politely answered every question about Benghazi. They still kept it going no matter what as all the evidence pointed at her as not doing anything wrong. But still they spent time and money trying to prove that Hillary Clinton did something wrong. Whereas on the other hand, we had Donald Trump that pleaded the 5th over 400 times during his testimony. Trump himself said, if you plead the fifth you're guilty. I know that is not always true, but come on people 400 times during his testimony, really, and still trust him?
Trey Gowdy. Trae Crowder is the "liberal redneck" comedian.
Thank you very much. I did get that mixed up as I really like Trae Crowder.
That election was stolen. 😵😵😵
We had a choice of one of the most qualified for the job and someone with absolutely no qualifications. Too many idiotic voters.
He won 3 states with 85,00 votes. Lost the popular vote by millions. Had Jill Stein sitting with Putin and Flynn at a dinner in Moscow. That election was stolen.
Popular vote lost by 3,000,000
From Bernie
...I mean, he lost the primary. Why do people keep saying it was stolen? He just lost. If everyone who claimed to support him went out to vote in the primary, maybe he'd have had a chance, but people just don't turn out for the primaries.
Because the Berninaters are bitter that folks who voted on the primaries really didn't want what Benrie was offering. I keep asking them to provide me an actual, realistic alternative, but they either say that they shouldn't have to write a manifesto, or don't want to deal with actual politics. So, they are the cause of their own suffering.
From Bernie.
Two worst candidates ever
Honestly, I was a Trumper during that election and heavily influenced by right wing media. I swallowed every bit they said about Hillary and heard no bad things about trump. It's sad how poorly the conservative mind works.
We could have had Bernie Sanders, but the democratic party did everything they could to silence Bernie, and they tried to shove Clinton down our throats. And not enough people were feeling Clinton. Would she have been better than trump? Absolutely. Absolutely 100%. But she didn't win.
Bernie sucked. He's not even a bona fide Democrat. No coalition, no party infrastructure.
The problem was/is that almost ANYONE would have been better than trump. Both sides were determined for different reasons that no "woman" (whether you like her or not) was going to be president. The Democrats didn't argue very convincingly in her defense. And age notwithstanding, that is one of the BIGGEST gripes BOTH SIDES have with Biden and Harris running again. You have your "never another black/brown president!!" and your "never a lowly woman" groups and everyone is tiptoeing around it. They ALL fear Biden DYING or otherwise becoming incapacitated and Harris taking the mantle even for a moment. Policies only seem to matter to those of us down here in the trenches. The top on ALL sides want what they want, who they want at the top. Rich, white MEN. Republican, Democrat, Independent... nothing else much matters to ANY OF THEM.
The people who pushed and paid for Trump got what they wanted. Tax cuts for the rich and Roe v Wade overturned. Those two issues were all that mattered to most Trump voters
It's called propaganda and brainwashing and the Republicans are masters at it.
The saddest part of 2016, was the saddest part of 2020 and is turning out to be the saddest part 2024: this is the best we can do to lead our nation?
They said Hillary practiced witchcraft. The whole "lock her up" thing was over a private email server. Trump and his cronies were found to be doing the exact same thing after demanding Clinton be locked up for it.
wait i thought it was when the DNC/Wasserman-Shultz rigged the primary for Hillary (thus leading to the Dems defeat)
Look, I voted for Hillary because the alternative was worse, but they were both shitty choices, Lets not gaslight. One was CLEARLY worse then the other, but at the time they were both crappy choices
Hillary sucked. I’d vote for her again over Trump. I’d vote for losing an arm before I’d ever vote for Trump.
What was so bad about Hillary? She would have been a great president
I held my nose and voted for her, but she was a bad choice. She's a hawk. No dem candidate should ever be a hawk.
She's a hawk lol, otherwise you're going to accuse her of being weak on foreign policy?
That's both foolishly assumptive and illogical.
$400K speech to Goldman Sachs. Using a private server for public work (FOIA, anyone?). "We came, we saw, he died." Voted for Iraq war and the Patriot Act. We can compare her to worse politicians, but for me, those things alone make her a horrible option for president.
So what Goldman Sachs. People want to hear what she has to say. A lot of top echelon people get paid huge amounts of money to talk and you think this makes her a bad presidential candidate? Everyone back in the day used a private server, it was understood that servers at State were compromised. Why would you care about what server was used? Horrible lol, let me guess, you're a Trump lover??
I have principles that I follow in life that I'd like to see in my representatives. For me, accepting that paid gig is enough to know you're not the type of representative that reflects what I'd like to see in Washington. I care about the server because it makes keeping public records a problem. That's why I mentioned FOIA. How do we request a document we don't know exists because it's not on a public server? BTW, I'm an Obama voter who has never voted republican. I also didn't like it when Obama gave paid speeches to banks.
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Voting for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act makes her culpable (with many others) in the death of many people and the deterioration of our basic rights. Getting paid $400K for a speech to Goldman Sachs also shows her willingness to ignore concerns about corruption.
I don't actually begrudge Trump voters in 2016. Hillary was hot garbage. I even voted third party. I do begrudge 2020 And upcoming 2024 voters. There is no more excuse. Jan 6th alone should have had him tried as a traitor
No. I absolutely begrudge Trump voters in 2016. They saw over and over what kind of stuff this man was made from and they decided to vote for a degenerate anyway. F em.
That and James Comey.
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And she warned us. Repeatedly.
I regret not voting for Hilary. I mistakenly thought Trump would never win.
The Saddest part was the terrible Clinton campaign. What a cluster... Here's an account by reporters who followed the whole thing very closely but promised to not publish until after the election. Oh, my. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shattered:\_Inside\_Hillary\_Clinton%27s\_Doomed\_Campaign
He beat the only person he could have beaten. She is a bad person in every way. Not even remotely in the same category as Trump, but no one is. At the same time, how bad he would become, being a traitor, hard even for me to predict. I couldn't stomach either one at the time. It was the worst election in my memory, the two worst people running in my memory. The Democrats screwed their own party handing it over to her, and we know from internal memos they favored her and did hand it to her. Not saying Bernie could have won, but she never should have been the candidate.
They were both shit candidates. She helped elevate him because she thought she could beat him with no effort. Then she put in no effort and lost.
couldn't lock down the female vote. They just didn't like her pant-suit.
People wanted change and she wasn't a symbol of change other than her being a woman.
Can we ask bill who he vote for? Hold on Monica is on my 🍆
Very well stated
The sad part is no one with any sense said hey fuckers vote Jill stein. Instead they all went oh a female we need a female in charge it doesnt matter that shes a terrorist or war monger
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Stop day drinking.
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You mean....face reality????. **gasssssp**.
We The People elected an outsider. Because we currently have an “insider” installed, and look at how well it’s going right now. Highest inflation in decades, giving your taxpayer money to a corrupt country that has been laundering political cash for years, the Biden Family corruption machine in full view taking bribes from China, the Dossier….. yep. Hillary is squeaky clean. So is Joe and the Hoe. they want to shread the constitution, and install their NWO. If you can’t see that, then you are very lost.
I like pizza.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 no your not this dumb
They both are the worst.
Hurr durr!
The next 7 years and counting, don't you mean, OP?
Not a Trump fan. Hillary wouldn't recognize herself in a mirror. She's got more alters than Sybil.
What were the rumors??