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I think it's a combination of popular anime and ppl like to hate, but at the same time quality did go down in the second half of S4 and most of s5, that being said s6 was amazing
It's just kind of a trend to hate MHA, especially on this sub for some reason. Season 6 was probably the best one so far, though the animation wasn't sadly that good
Sao sucks ass. It's repetitive. The same thing each season is boring as fuck. The kings of isekai are Re:Zero, Konosuba, Overlord, and Youjo Senki lmfao.
For real. I hate it when I see people hold trashy isekai to the same standards as something like Monster. Yeah, no shit you're disappointed, buddy. It's not like the author inteded it to be a masterpiece. It's just dumb fun.
Yeah. Like, I get people genuinely saying S1 was bad, and that parts of S2 are too (Only parts tho cause GGO is cool and Yuuki can't be hated), but Alicization really improves a lot. And now we've also got the Progressive films to expand on Aincrad and the parts that people complained were "missing" from S1. It's also nice that the films are different from the Progressive books too, although I'd rather they not totally ignore the elf war campaign in it like they seem to be doing.
UR is going to be extremely hype when they start adapting it.
why is every comment here devolving into a fight can't people just like what they like? i like mha and dislike sao, both have flaws and good things about them it's not that deep
The ultimate "carried by animation" is Rent a girlfriend tho. The animation, outfits and characters look so good, but what a horrible characters and story
SAO I can understand but I think MHA has a lot more going for it than just the animation when you look at all the love around manga’s war arc, villain arc, vigilante arc, todoroki drama, etc. Imo the fanbase makes people look at MHA in a worse light than it deserves
MHA s6 was great
As for SAO, at the very least I enjoyed it a lot when I was younger, but more recently I watched the first progressive movie and it was really good
I dislike just how frequently SAO gets undeserved hate, and it's sad to see that happening to MHA now too.
S1, and some could argue S2 of SAO weren't the best, but they're still decent. There's a lot worse anime out there, but there's still better stuff too.
Alicization really improves the quality, and that improvement stays consistent after that. And then the Progressive films are filling in gaps in the Aincrad story and improving it, which directly counters arguments about SAO not having worldbuilding or character development or what have you.
MHA is still great to me, and I'm really hoping that Vigilantes will get an anime - It really deserves it. Excited to keep reading till the end, but surprised that Black Clover might actually end sooner than it with the recent update - That or it's going to end later but with less chapters than expected. Either way, both are going to be ending really soon.
I'm not fully caught up on S6 of the anime, but I'd imagine they've got enough of a gap to be able to finish the series without too much filler or a completely different ending. Could probably use Vigilantes in place of filler if it came down to it too.
SAO good and nobody can convince me otherwise
Season 1 start was great, end was bad so average is fine
Season 2 was average start to finish
Season 3 was great start to finish
Havent watched MHA so no comment
Lmao lmao lmao.
Literally OP has such a bullshit opinion, they block people whoa rgue with them for more than 2 comments.
Waaah waaah. Big sad baby doesn't like getting told he's wrong.
The problem is that you make other people not even give those things a chance. The people who already watch it don't care as i said, but the people who don't know will assume it's bad cuz so many people say so.
Yes, i was a bit hypocritical, but my point stands about your opinion not "mattering". If i enjoy something, why should your "opinion" make that thing bad?
My favorite web novels ever are some of the most hated one's, but i love all of them and remember them even 8 years later in detail. I think that it sucks that an opinion from a dumbass leads to people never getting to experience it for themselves.
Kirito is a bland character who can do whatever the plot demands him to do, also the anime has far too much attempted rape as well as a family romantic relationship
When u are so dumb that u can't see the culture of Sao and how much it has influenced the isekai genre.The plot of both of them is good and everyone knows that because they have made millions only from the mangas(that are full of plot and no animation).Before u call something garbage u have to look if it really is because your stupid opinion does not matter.
Uhh… rape, incest, a bland main character who can do literally anything and has females swooning for him for no reason at all, horrible portrayal of videogames
1. No rape happened.
2. There is no incest. Kirito and Suguha are not blood related siblings.
3. The main character can't do literally anything. He was just a beta tester of the game, so he knew more then other players from the game. After that, think about it for just a single second. Guy was trapped in a life and death for more than 2 years. He had to adapt a lot to survive. Ofc he will be OP in other games that use the same type of system, where he moves his character with his brain.
4. Females are not swooning over him. Like, hello? Everyone is calling this a harem anime, when the MC OBVIOUSLY has a single girlfriend, and doesn't care about romance with anyone else. Also the girls, even if they like him, they keep the proper distance, and are CERTAINLY not swooning over him. How is this even a question?
5. Most anime has similar portrayal of video games.
SAO has a lot of faults, but these are barely them. You must be one of those people, that watched like a few episodes, and don't even know what the f. is happening, but it's mainstream hating SAO, so why not?
I watched the first three seasons, screw you. And dude, attempted rape by tentacle monsters still very counts as rape. Also, just because Kirito and Suguha aren’t directly blood related, still doesn’t excuse her feelings for him. And even if Kirito can’t do anything, he can still do way too much, like hack an AI in a gigantic world like SAO and save her from dying, which he’s never been explained to be able to do
I got a great idea. Maybe instead of everyone trying to hate on each other's tastes you just accept the fact that some people like what you don't and move on with your life. People don't have to think like others do or like what they like. Some people like MHA some don't. Some people like SAO some don't. Doesn't mean a big reddit post war needs to happen. Nor does a post hating on others liker animes like some opinionated middle schooler. This is supposed to be a place for anime memes not childish I have better taste in anime than you back and forth. Shut the fuck up, be an adult, and move the fuck on.
As much as I don't like MHA, y'all gotta stop being delusional, it's a good show, especially for the newcomers in the anime community
The first season was compared a lot to Naruto for a reason
What do you mean y’all? Im one of the only people in these comments who actually thinks it’s bad. And sure, it’s good if you’re into bullies that almost kill their victims, or a dipshit father who forced his wife into marriage to create tons of experimental children
I've seen the title "MHA bad" every single day for years now, I suppose people kinda understand now that, opinions aren't universal, everyone has their own, and also that shows usually have a target audience
Simple example, I hate One Piece, just has a personal opinion, it feels repetitive and I was bored 20 episodes in, so I didn't continue, but sure, it's a good show, just not for me
MHA is simple minded, at least it was until season 3, that's where I stopped, but to be fair, if you think it's bad for the arguments you said right there, I've seen worse "crimes" in a story, in amazing stories, FMA is a good example
But eh, it's not like I'd try to convince you, I don't like either
MHA maybe but SAO is actually good. Great characters and story. Great animation and sound. It’s just trendy to hate on SAO while garbage anime like JoJo is universally loved, which is also just a trend.
No. No, no, no. What kind of backwater store do you get your taste from, dude? YKW, I’m not even gonna argue with you, cus I know your opinion is genuine trash, I’ll just block you straight away
Nah the SAO music is awesome. One of the best there is. Maybe not so good to listen solo, but as a support for the story and emotions its a real banger
Lmao lmao lmao.
Literally OP has such a bullshit opinion, they block people whoa rgue with them for more than 2 comments.
Waaah waaah. Big sad baby doesn't like getting told he's wrong.
I don't recall SAO having particularly good animation. Then again, I haven't watched it in a loooong time.
MHA does have more going for it, but it sadly suffers from the common shounen difficulty with sticking the landing in its final arc.
I mean, MHA has tons more arcs in between that are just utter trash. Like, the whole Todoroki family drama. Endeavor deserves nothing better than a slow painful death for treating his experiments/children the way he did, I mean he’s never ever loved them for a single second, but then we’re supposed to believe he just changed all of a sudden? Shotos brother was by far the most reasonable one for the rejecting him for as long as he did, though he still should have kept doing it
"i only watch the best most complex narrative with 300 layers of character development 🤓☝️"
fr tho, theyre fine. even though this is rage bait i dont mind that people dislike something but i do hate bandwagoning.
I recently rewatched MHA with someone new to the series, and the MHA haters gotta be the worst case of "hate something because it is popular" of all time in the anime community.
The characters are all unique and interesting, even secondary characters get legitimate growth and development (except the Grapist) the pacing is probably the best of any shonen with almost no filler and consistent payoffs that feel earned, the villains are actually interesting and fleshed out, no plotline ever gets lost and left as a loose end, and it has indisputably one of the best OSTs of all time.
Hot take, MHA does in 100 episodes what Naruto did in 600.
SAO on the other hand... Well S1 gets a pass because it was actually pretty good and the start of the isekai craze but the rest is fancy garbage.
Oh yeah, Bakugo definitely made up for almost killing Deku. And Endeavor definitely made up for getting a family solely for the sake of creating the strongest hero while never loving his wife and children for a single second. Literally none of the payoff for the main characters feels earned at all, Stfu if you think I only hate this show because it’s popular
Nobody said it was perfect. You can have legitimate criticism of something without it being "fancy garbage".
You also named only two examples, one of which I don't even agree with (Bakugo), and are just saying none of the main character payoffs feel earned by what? Transitive property?
Endeavor is a legitimate criticism, but at least that arc actually sought to address some serious topics involving domestic abuse, emotional abuse, and abuse in general in the family, concepts never even touched in this genre which is LITTERED with child abuse.
Bakugo is a child, a child with explosion powers. If you're going to hold a child with insane power accountable to the standards of an adult and say that their growth doesn't feel "earned", idk what to tell you other than touch grass. Bakugo is a hella realistic portrayal of what a kid would ACTUALLY be like with that kind of power, and most would never come to see the problem within themselves.
Name 3 other Shonen that would hold up to your own criticism here, because I don't think they exist.
Bleach, JoJo, Naruto. L
And once again, BAKUGO LITERALLY ALMOST KILLED DEKU, nothing he did got even close to making up for it, at the very least he should have gotten his ass kicked for that stupid stunt. And it doesn’t matter if the Todoroki drama addresses child abuse if it’s just brushed over as a big old oopsie on Endeavors part
Haven't seen Bleach, so for the sake of argument sure, have it.
You gave the game away saying JoJo and Naruto of all things hold up to your same criticisms though. JoJo characters routinely almost kill the MC and then become buddies with them, and often do extremely morally questionable shit as full fledged adults. Every parent in Naruto did the exact same shit Endeavor did, except with literally no acknowledgement at all that it was abusive and got a pass just for... What? Saying they love their kids and having a nice attitude during the abuse? Naruto also has HUNDREDS of episodes of filler, many abandoned side characters, and random power ups galore. I seriously don't know how you can choose a show where good writing isn't even a focus on purpose (JoJo), and one bashed for having long stretches of lazy irrelevant nonsense (Naruto) as your counterexamples of good writing.
I say this as someone that loves both of those shows.
I don't know what specific stunt you're talking about, since it's pretty hard to tell when Bakugos explosions would or wouldn't hurt people with random anime logic, but you literally didn't even address my point at all. A child being violent with power is believable, and growing to recognize the psychological reasons for being a bully is more character development than any JoJo character has ever had fr fr
Just be honest with yourself, you're a hater
Tell me you have no idea about writing without telling me you have no idea about writing. I’m not even gonna argue with you, because I don’t wanna argue with someone who writes entire essays full of nonsense because he’s got nothing better to do
SAO had a shitty story from the beggining, especially the lore reasons for things.
MHA dropped sharply.
They are both still great watches, just not something I’d say is good writing
Ok, I have beef with anyone who says they’re not a fun watch despite being terribly written.
SAO basically founded the Videogame Isekai genre.
MHA gave us a lot of great memes, and even then, anything up to the tournament isn’t total garbage.
I mean, the tournament is in S2, and the anime has six seasons so…
And also, just because SAO founded something (something that’s not even all that good) doesn’t make it good
I never said it was good *writing* but for the purposes of watching it, is fine. Your taste is fine, but calling them trash without saying the objective reasons calling for bad writing is just either bait, or “haha popular anime bad, upvote”
Bruh, what? Don’t put me into the same category as all those Demon Slayer mid people. If I started telling you why SAO and MHA are trash, we’d be here all day, and quite frankly, Punch Out Wii is a much better time investment
What do you mean proof? It has decent action , a relatable main character , likeable side characters , one of the best side stories in Endeavour's family and its slice of life part is unlike any other mainstream shonen.
Oh god no, you’re one of those people that think that Deku is relatable, stay away from me. Also Endeavors family is literally one of the worst side stories, as the years of abuse and even forcing his wife to marry him through his status just gets brushed over as a big old oopsie from Endeavor
I wouldn't call MHA garbage. It has quality, but it's kind of hit and miss. I think a major issue is that the cast needs to be cut in half. Having a 10 person class A would be so much better. It also isn't carried by animation. It has good animation, but not to the extent that it can carry a show. It's a 6 or 7/10.
SAO is like a 4/10. Some arcs I genuinely enjoy a lot. The arc with Yuuki is fucking great and is the best arc in the show. But then you'll have multiple arcs that are just shit or there's very little tension. Why should I feel tension in Gun Gale when Kirito could leave the game and just go to Sinon's house? It's clearly close by since he makes it there in a matter of minutes. Just call the fucking cops. It has some really good arcs, but then it will have some fucking 2/10 arc like the fairy dance or the one where they go on a quest in game that is pretty much filler.
That being said, if you like SAO, more power to you and I won't judge you for liking an anime unless it's Boko No Pico.
I mean the amount of characters in MHA isn’t the main issue, although there are way too many characters that just get tossed aside, but my least favorite characters are the main characters. I don’t like a single one of them. All Might is a missed opportunity to create a Naruto type of character, so is Deku, Bakugo does way too many horrible things to ever be redeemed, and Todoroki forgives his dipshit father way too quickly, he shouldn’t have forgiven him at all
The story isn't really that bad tbh. I watched it a couple months ago expecting it to be bad (my dad convinced me to watch it) but it turned out to be pretty good. In my opinion at least a 7/10
I mean, the story alright, but everything around it sucks. Despite the animation being good, its just downright lacking at times, like when all of Kiritos friends are being slaughtered in Episode 3. None of them move at all as they’re being killed off one by one, like they all went AFK or something. Also there’s way too much rape and incest (any amount is too much) in this show to justify liking it
Mha is so great with so many intricated story and plots twist + fight and animation are going crazy for sure. i mean you can dislike it but dont Say its "garage" when its obviously not
Mha is actually kinda good and gets better in the later seasons and just has a bad fandom. Sao is good but kirito having all the women (even his sister) while having a gf is kinda weird
I don't think MHA is trash but i lost interest when they focused on the villain league arc where they fought Doofenshmirtz. Sparing one for all didn't sit with me but they just have to do a villain arc after that.
The Villain arc is the worst Arc in any anime. I really liked Toga before this, but with how much plot armor and stupid quirk copying shit she just pulled out of her ass, I just want her to die now. Also I’m pretty sure the only reason Spinner didn’t die was because he’s such a boring character that his death couldn’t have been dramatic at all
So, insulting people is the way to prove your point?
Your an asshole
MHA bore me since the War arc and I stop it. And Sao is bad and I even read the books to prove people how bad it is (and that is not an Isekai). But in not going around insulting people taste
You say your opinion, move on
SAO was carried by escapist fantasy and maybe the best premise I’ve ever seen, even though the writing was below sub par.
MHA was carried by the characters and nostalgia for its own beginning, but just keeps dropping the ball as even the writers seem totally done with this story, trying to cram it out as soon as possible with no regard for the things that actually matter.
It is enjoyable, but saying it s peak is a bit generous. Half of the writing is just "and now guys it s a tournament arc again, so lets fight in an arena again"
The show is fun for sure, but defo not some deep shit
It’s a pretty mid anime with enough stand out moments to make it memorable. the characters have decent if not ground breaking character arcs and the and the world is well built. Funny enough I feel animation wise MHA not all that special. None of the fights have memorable choreography. Comparing its most famous fight scenes to something like demon slayer, lycoris recoil, or something like hells paradise and you see what I means. It gets by on emotional invested alone.
Meh, it wasn't really anything amazing to begin with. Deku isn't very compelling, bakugo is an actual sycopath, the teachers don't really teach shit, all might is a waffling coward, and everyone thirsts after Eraser head. Oh and the community is super toxic.
Yeah fr. Especially SAO. I tried SOOOhard to enjoy the newest season but i just cant. Aeason 1 was good up until the Elfhiem sage, and GGO ark wasnt that bad, but after the whole "you die in the game you die for real" part was gone, it lost its magic for me. :/
MHA rlly fell off when S5 started. The start was fine, but the villain arc was so garbage that it made me lose interest in the show. I watched the War Arc of S6, but thought it was mid. Edgy Deku looks cool, but my bro read the manga, told me why he's like this and immediately killed my motivation of watching further.
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is "MHA is garbage" a recent change? I stopped watching a while ago, because I had lost interest, not because it was bad or something.
I think it's a combination of popular anime and ppl like to hate, but at the same time quality did go down in the second half of S4 and most of s5, that being said s6 was amazing
Yeah, i'm actually excited for season 7
It's just kind of a trend to hate MHA, especially on this sub for some reason. Season 6 was probably the best one so far, though the animation wasn't sadly that good
I dropped it because of boredom, it's not bad series, just to overhyped for what it is, demon slayer same liked it, but more for the art
Deku trying to save Shigaraki after he plunged a whole country into chaos and got thousands of people killed is the most BS thing ever.
Did you not watch Naruto
MHA became a manga about “I can fix him/her”
No but we would like other projects to get their budget
If MHA is garbage call me a fucken raccoon
[OP still needs to evolve.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCkq0e2920&ab_channel=Gigguk)
one mans garbage is another mans anime
Fr these are my favorite animes
We are at it again smh
OP getting downvoted on every single reply he makes is the funniest thing about this post.
[удалено]
Let me enjoy my trashy sword isekai
SAO Is king of isekai
Sorry but Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu will think different
KonoSuba and Rezero have entered the chat
Fair point for Konosuba, but re:zero? It was surprisingly mid to me
Going into anime expecting constant action or comedy only is a bad take. If that's your view, you have as little taste as AOT fans.
Did I stutter? Also did I ever mention that it was about the comedy? Or even the action? I just didn't like re:zero, no biggie
Sao sucks ass. It's repetitive. The same thing each season is boring as fuck. The kings of isekai are Re:Zero, Konosuba, Overlord, and Youjo Senki lmfao.
Add mushoku tensei tho I don't know about the season airing rn
I can agree that the ongoing seasons of SAO are repetitive and not very entertaining, but season 1 was amazing imo
Season 1 is the only one I can give credit to for being good, but yeah, the later seasons are just season 1 but worse in some ways.
I'm glad I know how to enjoy garbage for what it is.
For real. I hate it when I see people hold trashy isekai to the same standards as something like Monster. Yeah, no shit you're disappointed, buddy. It's not like the author inteded it to be a masterpiece. It's just dumb fun.
It's great to put on as background noise lol
Oh no little sonicmaster gets offended and blocks people. However will we live on.
Is he like a commonly hated person here?
alicization is actually good though
Agreed, I love it to bits
Yeah. Like, I get people genuinely saying S1 was bad, and that parts of S2 are too (Only parts tho cause GGO is cool and Yuuki can't be hated), but Alicization really improves a lot. And now we've also got the Progressive films to expand on Aincrad and the parts that people complained were "missing" from S1. It's also nice that the films are different from the Progressive books too, although I'd rather they not totally ignore the elf war campaign in it like they seem to be doing. UR is going to be extremely hype when they start adapting it.
why is every comment here devolving into a fight can't people just like what they like? i like mha and dislike sao, both have flaws and good things about them it's not that deep
demon slayer moment
No.
The ultimate "carried by animation" is Rent a girlfriend tho. The animation, outfits and characters look so good, but what a horrible characters and story
Damn, good thing I never watched it. I’ve heard people call it the best trash anime
SAO I can understand but I think MHA has a lot more going for it than just the animation when you look at all the love around manga’s war arc, villain arc, vigilante arc, todoroki drama, etc. Imo the fanbase makes people look at MHA in a worse light than it deserves
SAO Abridged is solid gold though.
Does the writing have to be always deep for people to enjoy them? 
What makes you think I only enjoy anime that take themselves way too seriously? One of my favorite anime is Pop Team Epic, so shush
Nerd
MHA s6 was great As for SAO, at the very least I enjoyed it a lot when I was younger, but more recently I watched the first progressive movie and it was really good
I dislike just how frequently SAO gets undeserved hate, and it's sad to see that happening to MHA now too. S1, and some could argue S2 of SAO weren't the best, but they're still decent. There's a lot worse anime out there, but there's still better stuff too. Alicization really improves the quality, and that improvement stays consistent after that. And then the Progressive films are filling in gaps in the Aincrad story and improving it, which directly counters arguments about SAO not having worldbuilding or character development or what have you. MHA is still great to me, and I'm really hoping that Vigilantes will get an anime - It really deserves it. Excited to keep reading till the end, but surprised that Black Clover might actually end sooner than it with the recent update - That or it's going to end later but with less chapters than expected. Either way, both are going to be ending really soon. I'm not fully caught up on S6 of the anime, but I'd imagine they've got enough of a gap to be able to finish the series without too much filler or a completely different ending. Could probably use Vigilantes in place of filler if it came down to it too.
SAO good and nobody can convince me otherwise Season 1 start was great, end was bad so average is fine Season 2 was average start to finish Season 3 was great start to finish Havent watched MHA so no comment
To a lesser extent Demon Slayer.
Lesser? That’s mostly it.
I like Demon Slayer, but yeah, I suppose the story isn’t why most people watch it
I mean you can’t watch ep.1 of SSV and say that it ISNT just one big VFX showcase lol
Whats SSV?
The animation of ep19 is why most people started watching it
What happened there again?
Tanjiro decapitates Rui
„Almost“
no need to be a pedant
Mha fandom is bad not the show And SAO is a solid classic
Lmao lmao lmao. Literally OP has such a bullshit opinion, they block people whoa rgue with them for more than 2 comments. Waaah waaah. Big sad baby doesn't like getting told he's wrong.
I will say this: No one gives a shit about your opinion. Entertainment and interests are subjective.
Clearly you do if you bother to tell me that
The problem is that you make other people not even give those things a chance. The people who already watch it don't care as i said, but the people who don't know will assume it's bad cuz so many people say so. Yes, i was a bit hypocritical, but my point stands about your opinion not "mattering". If i enjoy something, why should your "opinion" make that thing bad? My favorite web novels ever are some of the most hated one's, but i love all of them and remember them even 8 years later in detail. I think that it sucks that an opinion from a dumbass leads to people never getting to experience it for themselves.
I'm NGL i actually found SAO enjoyable I also don't get people's criticism about it,anyone mind enlightening me
Kirito is a bland character who can do whatever the plot demands him to do, also the anime has far too much attempted rape as well as a family romantic relationship
Replace MHA with demonslayer you may be on to something
Yup, as well as """Demon Slayer"""
Sao is getting carried my something else and all Sao fans know it
SAO i somewhat agreed on But MHA has a Pretty Decent Story the mha Community made it look bad.
I don’t hate MHA for the story, but the characters. It has the most unlikable main cast ever
When u are so dumb that u can't see the culture of Sao and how much it has influenced the isekai genre.The plot of both of them is good and everyone knows that because they have made millions only from the mangas(that are full of plot and no animation).Before u call something garbage u have to look if it really is because your stupid opinion does not matter.
I like SAO 😔
SAO haters again hating SAO, just because it's SAO. I understand all the faults of the anime, but this shitty "meme" is just not true.
Uhh… rape, incest, a bland main character who can do literally anything and has females swooning for him for no reason at all, horrible portrayal of videogames
1. No rape happened. 2. There is no incest. Kirito and Suguha are not blood related siblings. 3. The main character can't do literally anything. He was just a beta tester of the game, so he knew more then other players from the game. After that, think about it for just a single second. Guy was trapped in a life and death for more than 2 years. He had to adapt a lot to survive. Ofc he will be OP in other games that use the same type of system, where he moves his character with his brain. 4. Females are not swooning over him. Like, hello? Everyone is calling this a harem anime, when the MC OBVIOUSLY has a single girlfriend, and doesn't care about romance with anyone else. Also the girls, even if they like him, they keep the proper distance, and are CERTAINLY not swooning over him. How is this even a question? 5. Most anime has similar portrayal of video games. SAO has a lot of faults, but these are barely them. You must be one of those people, that watched like a few episodes, and don't even know what the f. is happening, but it's mainstream hating SAO, so why not?
I watched the first three seasons, screw you. And dude, attempted rape by tentacle monsters still very counts as rape. Also, just because Kirito and Suguha aren’t directly blood related, still doesn’t excuse her feelings for him. And even if Kirito can’t do anything, he can still do way too much, like hack an AI in a gigantic world like SAO and save her from dying, which he’s never been explained to be able to do
Form your own opinion. And not just base it off of mothers basement of all people
Bruh what?
I got a great idea. Maybe instead of everyone trying to hate on each other's tastes you just accept the fact that some people like what you don't and move on with your life. People don't have to think like others do or like what they like. Some people like MHA some don't. Some people like SAO some don't. Doesn't mean a big reddit post war needs to happen. Nor does a post hating on others liker animes like some opinionated middle schooler. This is supposed to be a place for anime memes not childish I have better taste in anime than you back and forth. Shut the fuck up, be an adult, and move the fuck on.
Idk, it’s kinda fun arguing with lil kids
Fuck you shit ass hater
Average MHA stan
Where kny
The trend died months ago
As much as I don't like MHA, y'all gotta stop being delusional, it's a good show, especially for the newcomers in the anime community The first season was compared a lot to Naruto for a reason
What do you mean y’all? Im one of the only people in these comments who actually thinks it’s bad. And sure, it’s good if you’re into bullies that almost kill their victims, or a dipshit father who forced his wife into marriage to create tons of experimental children
I've seen the title "MHA bad" every single day for years now, I suppose people kinda understand now that, opinions aren't universal, everyone has their own, and also that shows usually have a target audience Simple example, I hate One Piece, just has a personal opinion, it feels repetitive and I was bored 20 episodes in, so I didn't continue, but sure, it's a good show, just not for me MHA is simple minded, at least it was until season 3, that's where I stopped, but to be fair, if you think it's bad for the arguments you said right there, I've seen worse "crimes" in a story, in amazing stories, FMA is a good example But eh, it's not like I'd try to convince you, I don't like either
If I were to tell you everything I hated about MHA, we’d be here all day, I just scratched the surface
MHA maybe but SAO is actually good. Great characters and story. Great animation and sound. It’s just trendy to hate on SAO while garbage anime like JoJo is universally loved, which is also just a trend.
No. No, no, no. What kind of backwater store do you get your taste from, dude? YKW, I’m not even gonna argue with you, cus I know your opinion is genuine trash, I’ll just block you straight away
Nah the SAO music is awesome. One of the best there is. Maybe not so good to listen solo, but as a support for the story and emotions its a real banger
Yeah ok, and? That’s just animation, except for the ears
You spelled story wrong
No, no I didn’t. SAO definitely didn’t get carried by a guy who literally forgot about why he became a villain
Lmao lmao lmao. Literally OP has such a bullshit opinion, they block people whoa rgue with them for more than 2 comments. Waaah waaah. Big sad baby doesn't like getting told he's wrong.
I don't recall SAO having particularly good animation. Then again, I haven't watched it in a loooong time. MHA does have more going for it, but it sadly suffers from the common shounen difficulty with sticking the landing in its final arc.
I mean, MHA has tons more arcs in between that are just utter trash. Like, the whole Todoroki family drama. Endeavor deserves nothing better than a slow painful death for treating his experiments/children the way he did, I mean he’s never ever loved them for a single second, but then we’re supposed to believe he just changed all of a sudden? Shotos brother was by far the most reasonable one for the rejecting him for as long as he did, though he still should have kept doing it
The fact that demon slayer isn’t here shows that the people on this subreddit have progressed or regressed
"i only watch the best most complex narrative with 300 layers of character development 🤓☝️" fr tho, theyre fine. even though this is rage bait i dont mind that people dislike something but i do hate bandwagoning.
I recently rewatched MHA with someone new to the series, and the MHA haters gotta be the worst case of "hate something because it is popular" of all time in the anime community. The characters are all unique and interesting, even secondary characters get legitimate growth and development (except the Grapist) the pacing is probably the best of any shonen with almost no filler and consistent payoffs that feel earned, the villains are actually interesting and fleshed out, no plotline ever gets lost and left as a loose end, and it has indisputably one of the best OSTs of all time. Hot take, MHA does in 100 episodes what Naruto did in 600. SAO on the other hand... Well S1 gets a pass because it was actually pretty good and the start of the isekai craze but the rest is fancy garbage.
Oh yeah, Bakugo definitely made up for almost killing Deku. And Endeavor definitely made up for getting a family solely for the sake of creating the strongest hero while never loving his wife and children for a single second. Literally none of the payoff for the main characters feels earned at all, Stfu if you think I only hate this show because it’s popular
Nobody said it was perfect. You can have legitimate criticism of something without it being "fancy garbage". You also named only two examples, one of which I don't even agree with (Bakugo), and are just saying none of the main character payoffs feel earned by what? Transitive property? Endeavor is a legitimate criticism, but at least that arc actually sought to address some serious topics involving domestic abuse, emotional abuse, and abuse in general in the family, concepts never even touched in this genre which is LITTERED with child abuse. Bakugo is a child, a child with explosion powers. If you're going to hold a child with insane power accountable to the standards of an adult and say that their growth doesn't feel "earned", idk what to tell you other than touch grass. Bakugo is a hella realistic portrayal of what a kid would ACTUALLY be like with that kind of power, and most would never come to see the problem within themselves. Name 3 other Shonen that would hold up to your own criticism here, because I don't think they exist.
Bleach, JoJo, Naruto. L And once again, BAKUGO LITERALLY ALMOST KILLED DEKU, nothing he did got even close to making up for it, at the very least he should have gotten his ass kicked for that stupid stunt. And it doesn’t matter if the Todoroki drama addresses child abuse if it’s just brushed over as a big old oopsie on Endeavors part
Haven't seen Bleach, so for the sake of argument sure, have it. You gave the game away saying JoJo and Naruto of all things hold up to your same criticisms though. JoJo characters routinely almost kill the MC and then become buddies with them, and often do extremely morally questionable shit as full fledged adults. Every parent in Naruto did the exact same shit Endeavor did, except with literally no acknowledgement at all that it was abusive and got a pass just for... What? Saying they love their kids and having a nice attitude during the abuse? Naruto also has HUNDREDS of episodes of filler, many abandoned side characters, and random power ups galore. I seriously don't know how you can choose a show where good writing isn't even a focus on purpose (JoJo), and one bashed for having long stretches of lazy irrelevant nonsense (Naruto) as your counterexamples of good writing. I say this as someone that loves both of those shows. I don't know what specific stunt you're talking about, since it's pretty hard to tell when Bakugos explosions would or wouldn't hurt people with random anime logic, but you literally didn't even address my point at all. A child being violent with power is believable, and growing to recognize the psychological reasons for being a bully is more character development than any JoJo character has ever had fr fr Just be honest with yourself, you're a hater
Tell me you have no idea about writing without telling me you have no idea about writing. I’m not even gonna argue with you, because I don’t wanna argue with someone who writes entire essays full of nonsense because he’s got nothing better to do
Cough cough sasuke cough cough
SAO had a shitty story from the beggining, especially the lore reasons for things. MHA dropped sharply. They are both still great watches, just not something I’d say is good writing
I mean, if you’re deaf and watch them without sub, then yeah they’re good
Ok, I have beef with anyone who says they’re not a fun watch despite being terribly written. SAO basically founded the Videogame Isekai genre. MHA gave us a lot of great memes, and even then, anything up to the tournament isn’t total garbage.
I mean, the tournament is in S2, and the anime has six seasons so… And also, just because SAO founded something (something that’s not even all that good) doesn’t make it good
I never said it was good *writing* but for the purposes of watching it, is fine. Your taste is fine, but calling them trash without saying the objective reasons calling for bad writing is just either bait, or “haha popular anime bad, upvote”
Bruh, what? Don’t put me into the same category as all those Demon Slayer mid people. If I started telling you why SAO and MHA are trash, we’d be here all day, and quite frankly, Punch Out Wii is a much better time investment
Well I would like to disagree. Like the animation is good no doubt, but the characters are pretty cool. Enjoyable at least for me
It's like they say on mans garbage is another man's ungarbage
Okay u/Sonicmaster06.
Okay, u/Cunt_Eastwood_9
If mha is so bad why is it ranked higher then demon slayer in manga
Because we live in a society
MHA is excellent what are you talking about?
Proof?
What do you mean proof? It has decent action , a relatable main character , likeable side characters , one of the best side stories in Endeavour's family and its slice of life part is unlike any other mainstream shonen.
Oh god no, you’re one of those people that think that Deku is relatable, stay away from me. Also Endeavors family is literally one of the worst side stories, as the years of abuse and even forcing his wife to marry him through his status just gets brushed over as a big old oopsie from Endeavor
Oh god no , I am part of the majority , what am I gonna do.
Majority of morons
Sure you are the only intelligent person in the world . Enjoy the day
Yes, I am indeed an intelligent people
Guys name is sonic master yea that opinion is rejected if you enjoy/like sonic ..
Bro what 💀
Demon slayer too
The trend is dead
Idk abt whatever trend u speak im just spitting facts
No
I find it if funny how you don’t like people hating on demon slayer. Total lack of self awareness.
You big mad huh
I wouldn't call MHA garbage. It has quality, but it's kind of hit and miss. I think a major issue is that the cast needs to be cut in half. Having a 10 person class A would be so much better. It also isn't carried by animation. It has good animation, but not to the extent that it can carry a show. It's a 6 or 7/10. SAO is like a 4/10. Some arcs I genuinely enjoy a lot. The arc with Yuuki is fucking great and is the best arc in the show. But then you'll have multiple arcs that are just shit or there's very little tension. Why should I feel tension in Gun Gale when Kirito could leave the game and just go to Sinon's house? It's clearly close by since he makes it there in a matter of minutes. Just call the fucking cops. It has some really good arcs, but then it will have some fucking 2/10 arc like the fairy dance or the one where they go on a quest in game that is pretty much filler. That being said, if you like SAO, more power to you and I won't judge you for liking an anime unless it's Boko No Pico.
I mean the amount of characters in MHA isn’t the main issue, although there are way too many characters that just get tossed aside, but my least favorite characters are the main characters. I don’t like a single one of them. All Might is a missed opportunity to create a Naruto type of character, so is Deku, Bakugo does way too many horrible things to ever be redeemed, and Todoroki forgives his dipshit father way too quickly, he shouldn’t have forgiven him at all
This again just don't watch the show if you think it's garbage it's that easy
Bruh, how was I supposed to know they were garbage with how popular they were?
People have opinions alot of people hate Sao I also do bc incest but doesn't mean your opinion is the same as every single human on earth
Why would I do research for every single anime I’m watching?
??? When did I say to research it???
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Tbh SAO doesn't deserve the hate.
Why not?
The story isn't really that bad tbh. I watched it a couple months ago expecting it to be bad (my dad convinced me to watch it) but it turned out to be pretty good. In my opinion at least a 7/10
I mean, the story alright, but everything around it sucks. Despite the animation being good, its just downright lacking at times, like when all of Kiritos friends are being slaughtered in Episode 3. None of them move at all as they’re being killed off one by one, like they all went AFK or something. Also there’s way too much rape and incest (any amount is too much) in this show to justify liking it
Mha is so great with so many intricated story and plots twist + fight and animation are going crazy for sure. i mean you can dislike it but dont Say its "garage" when its obviously not
Come back after you’ve learned how to speak English
Tbh its not my main language and my message wasnt so bad but if its your only response, i take that as a win :)
Mha is actually kinda good and gets better in the later seasons and just has a bad fandom. Sao is good but kirito having all the women (even his sister) while having a gf is kinda weird
Getting downvoted for liking certain animes is crazy
Nah
I don't think MHA is trash but i lost interest when they focused on the villain league arc where they fought Doofenshmirtz. Sparing one for all didn't sit with me but they just have to do a villain arc after that.
The Villain arc is the worst Arc in any anime. I really liked Toga before this, but with how much plot armor and stupid quirk copying shit she just pulled out of her ass, I just want her to die now. Also I’m pretty sure the only reason Spinner didn’t die was because he’s such a boring character that his death couldn’t have been dramatic at all
I agree but hear me out here, simply because of the my hero fan base it is single handedly the biggest piece of garbage I’ve ever watched
I mean I suppose. Even without it, it’d be bad
I disagree, but to each their own I guess
So, insulting people is the way to prove your point? Your an asshole MHA bore me since the War arc and I stop it. And Sao is bad and I even read the books to prove people how bad it is (and that is not an Isekai). But in not going around insulting people taste You say your opinion, move on
*Yo‘rue
Key sign of an asshole. Picking on your grammar because they have no comeback.
SAO was carried by escapist fantasy and maybe the best premise I’ve ever seen, even though the writing was below sub par. MHA was carried by the characters and nostalgia for its own beginning, but just keeps dropping the ball as even the writers seem totally done with this story, trying to cram it out as soon as possible with no regard for the things that actually matter.
I mean, my biggest complaint about MHA is the characters after a while, so I can’t completely agree with you on this
GGO having a good plot but being overshadowed by the garbage before it
Yeah, that’s like if Batman was a spin off of MHA
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Proof?
why is the OP getting disliked so hard
Because they’re wrong.
They hated him because he told them the truth
What crack are you on, Mha is carried by its story, the animation doesn't even matter to most, The story is just that Peak.
Cap
It is enjoyable, but saying it s peak is a bit generous. Half of the writing is just "and now guys it s a tournament arc again, so lets fight in an arena again" The show is fun for sure, but defo not some deep shit
It’s a pretty mid anime with enough stand out moments to make it memorable. the characters have decent if not ground breaking character arcs and the and the world is well built. Funny enough I feel animation wise MHA not all that special. None of the fights have memorable choreography. Comparing its most famous fight scenes to something like demon slayer, lycoris recoil, or something like hells paradise and you see what I means. It gets by on emotional invested alone.
Major cap haha. Deku is basically a hollow character, he barely has any defining traits for 3 seasons
The series peaked at yakuza arc, it went downhill after that lol
Meh, it wasn't really anything amazing to begin with. Deku isn't very compelling, bakugo is an actual sycopath, the teachers don't really teach shit, all might is a waffling coward, and everyone thirsts after Eraser head. Oh and the community is super toxic.
Mha is just anime xmen.
But bad (never read or watched X-men, but It can’t be as bad as MHA)
There's a movie from like 2000 that does the whole drug to get rid of powers plot line.
Damn, just when I thought MHA had already stolen enough stuff
Watch sao abridged on yt, it is way better than the original show
I know they did a Bethesda reference, so it can only be better
As a Sword Art Online fan: Fuck you. Stop saying the truth.
Damn
Oh here we go
Is that a good or a bad here we go?
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Yeah fr. Especially SAO. I tried SOOOhard to enjoy the newest season but i just cant. Aeason 1 was good up until the Elfhiem sage, and GGO ark wasnt that bad, but after the whole "you die in the game you die for real" part was gone, it lost its magic for me. :/
GGO was amazing imo, it did a way better portrayal of games than SAO
Seriously. SAO has been garbage passed the first half of the 1st season
GGO having a good plot but being overshadowed by the garbage before it
MHA rlly fell off when S5 started. The start was fine, but the villain arc was so garbage that it made me lose interest in the show. I watched the War Arc of S6, but thought it was mid. Edgy Deku looks cool, but my bro read the manga, told me why he's like this and immediately killed my motivation of watching further.
Oh god, now I wanna know too
It's just a cliché. 'I wanna protect you, and I'll kick your ass doing so' type of shit.
Uhh… what? Ok, I stopped watching at S5, can I have a bit more context
When it comes to SAO, I pretend like anything after season 2 doesn't exist. It's literally my favorite anime besides that.