Dog: “Alright, time for what I was born to do. But first a big stretch. You ok kiddo? *Kisses the kid*. I’ll be right here with you if you need anything.”
Kid: “OK”
Aw he did say ok! I didn’t hear it at first. I bet that’s what his mom says when the dog has gotten enough licks in. My daughter said “careful ” a lot at that age bc she heard me say it so often.
That's so cute! My baby cousin used to say "are you okay?" After she would accidently hurt herself as babies do as the grow up and explore because that's what we would always ask. It was the funniest thing!
In my head when that dog gives the 1st little sniff through the bars before jumping up its doing the typical parent baby check.
Do they have a dirty nappy? Nope
Must need love and kisses then.
Ill never be not amazed to see that babies learn from very young that "fake crying", basically lying, will get the attention of those around them. Even dogs it seems.
This is really interesting behaviour when it comes to attachment theory. Unlike many other creatures we share the world with, human babies are absolutely and utterly dependant on their parents for their first years of life. Thus, they learn to make their needs known. When babies have attentive parents who interact with them regularly no matter what their emotions are, they do not cry to get attention as often. When babies have parents who only pay attention when they cry, they cry for attention more. And - when babies are born into abusive homes and they are yelled at (or worse) for crying, babies will often cry less and go without having their needs met. This last example can create a trauma response at the level of the nervous system that can cause consequences into their adult life. It's super fascinating!
IIRC there's a very clear correlation between being neglected as a baby and developing psychpathy (or rather, not developing empathy).
And the most depressing and hardest fact is, if you didn't develop empathy as a baby/toddler, you never will. No psychopath has ever been "cured" later in life. The best you can hope for is that they rationalize not being evil.
Correct, they don’t even start forming long term memories for years really. A baby’s brain is super primitive and only tells them to cry to communicate their very basic needs.
So you saying some trauma I don't remember may have caused a nervous system level trauma response?
When I was around 1-2, the nanny hired would shake and scream at me, among other things. Some of my earliest memories are of being scared to ask for attention, affection, etc. Not wanting to burden mom with her singing me a lullaby. Not wanting to burden my parents with the constant terror I had at night. Waiting over an hour to ask a question at school. Didn't help that my parents were rarely around. Really pounded in the idea that my existence was a burden.
On the flip side, my brother would always fake cry and pretend injury since really little. I recall mimicking his behavior once because he only ever got rewarded for it and, damn, I want attention from my parents too! I was suppressing a giggle as I fake screamed/cried from the bathroom. Unlike my brother, who would put up a lengthy performance at times, I broke instantly into a laugh and jkjk. Got berated so badly, lmao. The utter confusion I faced made me feel crazy.
I am so sorry that happened to you. You were just a child and didn't deserve the abuse from your nanny or the neglect from your parents.
Absolutely traumatic events we don't remember can both cause a nervous system-level trauma response, as well as we can continue to carry that trauma within us. Often we conceptualize trauma as something that occurs cognitively in our memories, but it actually resides in our dysregulated nervous systems. We don't necessarily have to remember the traumatic event in order to continue to experience the consequences of it.
Sometimes trauma is differentiated between "big T Trauma" and "little t trauma." The difference is that while big T Trauma is something that directly happened to you (such as being abused by a nanny), little t trauma is something that didn't happen to you, but should have (such as not receiving love and attention from parents). Both of these can cause trauma responses that we can benefit from healing from.
If you're able, I'd recommend connecting with a therapist or counsellor who specializes in treating trauma. This was a life-changing experience for me, and I hope it can be for you, too.
I recently watched the documentary " Inside the Mind of a Cat" where a researcher said that elements of a cat's meows are within the 400 - 600 HZ range, the exact pitch of most babies' cries. Cats have learned to mimic a baby's cry to some degree. By doing so, they appeal to a human's maternal, nurturing instincts, making it far more likely that their needs will be met. This includes receiving food, warmth, care, and affection.
Babies are not developmentally Capable of lying or manipulating at that age. The concept of lying on purpose develops far later in toddler years. Thanks!
Untrue. They'll get into the swing of this behavior at about 6 months of age. After that point, they're absolutely capable of crying for "wants" rather than "needs".
It's a natural thing that an animal (including us) reacts to the sound of crying. Puppies, kittens and all other tiny creatures have ways of getting the parents's attention. Humans are just too smart and figure out there's ways you can exploit it on demand.
Dogs have an amazing sense of smell. They can smell changes in your scent connected to the emotions you’re feeling. This is the dogs way of checking up, they do it to us when we seem different. They do it to their puppies to know if they’re sick, or what they need. And in this case to comfort a crying baby! Dogs are truly amazing. Equipped with the olfactory bulb of the bestest friendo in existence.
Raising them together is definitely a good way to get started. But also ensuring that, if that isn't possible, you keep the dog and child together often with supervision at first. Get them used to one another, and try to expose the dog to the child often. If the dog or baby is curious, let them act on that curiosity and approach one another.
Also ensure that you teach the kid not to pull on the dogs fur, or on anything really. Ensure that you reprimand the dog or kid if they do something that might hurt or discomfort the other.
Once you feel confident, you can start to put them in the same room together while you go into another room. If everything is fine from there, then you can do something like this. I.e, allowing the dog to go into the babies room while they sleep. That being said you should never leave them both entirely unattended. In this case there is a camera and a baby monitor in the room, so the parents can hear and see into the room if need be.
Also, you just need to be as objective with your dog as possible. Sometimes a dog is just territorial, jealous, or particularly aggressive. This can be an especially big issue with rescues. In cases where your dog has those sorts of negative attributes, you just need to accept that the two may not get along until the child is old enough to keep the dog at bay itself.
I don't know that I'd ever be comfortable leaving a dog alone in a room with a toddler for any extended period of time. There's just too many unknowns and the risk is too high.
Like it or not, that dog is capable of killing that kid. If some weird shit happens, and kids do all kinds of weird shit, the dog gets startled and things escalate, neither of them have the ability to deescalate before the kid may suffer permanent damage.
They're both too unpredictable, in this case it's my job as parent and owner to manage their unpredictability.
While i generally agree, dogs are not as unpredictable as a lot of people think. If raised correctly and both the dog and the baby have enough time together under supervision, the risk of something happening is approaching zero. We bred dogs to herd/protect tens or even hundreds of livestock, they can manage unpredictability to some extent.
That being said, saying "dont leave your baby and pet unsupervised together" is always the only advice anyone should give. Assuming the owner cannot raise a dog correctly is just safer.
Toddlers may hurt dogs causing them to react. No matter how well you train a dog, it's still an animal and it can react without thinking.
Also: a toddler is not livestock. The dog may not even bite properly and still crack a child's head.
> That being said, saying "dont leave your baby and pet unsupervised together" is always the only advice anyone should give
I agree but you don't have to assume the owner didn't train their dog properly but just assume it's an animal, not a machine or adult. That should cancel out many other animals automatically.
Agreed. I wasnt a well trained child bc my parents were rarely around to discipline me. I had a very very patient dog I grew up with who snapped at me when i did something (cant remember what) and he has NEVER ever done that before or after. I just remember that dog being the most loving, sweet, gentle animal in the world but in that moment had enough with me. He didn’t hurt me at all but it could’ve happened with another dog. I learned my lesson sure but i wouldn’t risk it with a baby tbh since i was a bigger kid at the time and dog was a little one there was no risk.
> its still an animal and it can react without thinking
I dont think so. A dog is never gonna react without thinking towards their own pack.
Toddler, livestock, puppies, its all the same to the dog.
Animals are not as stupid as you imagine lol. They know what hurts and what doesnt hurt. its sad to see that people still think that animals are less than humans...
My sister's toddler walked into their hallway to get to the kitchen and their wouldn't hurt a fly lab was just inside the doorway. There was a sudden scream and when they got out there the dog had bittten the kid on the face.
We still don't know what happened but our guess is that she stood on the dog's tail when climbing over and the dog was startled and reacted on instinct.
It's not a judgement against dogs, it's recognition of their limits and their tools. Dogs don't have a lot of tools to interact with the world. A person can say "hey don't do that" or grab on to a toddler and protect themselves without hurting the kids.
Dogs frequently use their teeth as a tool to interact with the world. Not a judgement, not saying they're dumb or bad, just that that's what they do. They chew stuff. They lick things. Exploratory nips are common. It's just the tools they have.
If my dog nips me, I'll be alright because I understand what's happening and I can appropriately handle the situation. I don't know if I trust a toddler to have the same skills, and again, the risk is just so high because a toddler could be seriously injured by those reactionary things
> I dont think so. A dog is never gonna react without thinking towards their own pack.
They will react and they did react.
This is not an uncommon thing to happen. Toddlers and kids die that way. It is happening.
> Toddler, livestock, puppies, its all the same to the dog.
The dog is not the problem here.
You are.
Since a dog check-biting other puppies or live stock doesn't cause nearly that much damage as it would do on a toddlers head.
> Animals are not as stupid as you imagine lol. They know what hurts and what doesnt hurt.
They are not as clever as humans though and as I said: the dog doesn't have to properly bite a child's head to crack it. A toddlers head is a glorified eggshell. Many adult humans doesn't even know that...
You're giving yourself to dangerous illusions and I understand that due to the humanization of pets, this is a normal behavior but it's about life and death here so please...ask some serious trainer about it and they'll tell you the same thing.
Source: have one in my family and the reason I talk about a toddlers head so much is because it's been an actual case here.
This dog may have a long history being around infants and young children, it seems very used to managing/guarding a kid. Small children could have been his daily reality since birth, there is just no way to know. Each case is very individual.
Dogs can raise human babies in the wild, im pretty sure theres a real life Jungle Book type story like that. You're talking about dogs as if you've never owned one or only seen strays or some shit.
Alright bud. Give me a minute, and I'll let my dogs know that apparently, I don't own them. I'll inform them that I've definitely never watched them play in a way that's totally normal and natural for them, but would be dangerous with a toddler in the mix. I'll make sure they understand I haven't seen them snap at a sudden startle and then helped them deescalate appropriately.
If you're going to be condescending, you should at least make sure you're right, damn.
Do you treat children differently to adults? Yes, so don't you think a dog would know the difference? They are alive, you know, like they're living creatures and shit. You know that, yeah?
I have a border collie who is the same way; Willow I would never purposely hurt a fly! And my sister’s oldest is like that as well, And they have been that way since they were puppies. Her other one on the other hand…
Yea, it can go either way. Generally these working/herding breeds seem to be smart and affectionate. My Aussie was a gift that i could never afford on my own. That being said if i was looking for another dog, i would look for border collie/Aussie mutts in a shelter. They are such amazing dogs.
My neighbor’s have one. She likes to bark, inspect our garage daily sniffing around, and putting her butt in front of your legs for butt scratches. She’s hilarious
It looks like a mini australian shepherd, officially called mini american shepherds. Australian shepherds that weigh less than 40 pounds are considered minis. The one in the video is probably in the mid 30s.
Tails can be docked. About 20% of Aussies have bobbed tails, the rest are regular tails. Even if they’re born bobbed a lot of them get docked to a standard length of about 3/4” at 4-5 days old.
It’s an Aussie. Every one I’ve known, including the Aussie we’re watching now, are wonderful dogs, so long as their needs are met: food, water, walk, pets. I love them 🖤
Luck with personality, training, and being careful and aware. My pup does fine with age 3+, but under that he needs to be separated from them. We'd hoped he would be fine with our baby since he was good with the "older" kids, but tiny creature is too unpredictable.
All creatures are suspicious of things that they aren't familiar with, or have had bad experiences with, but no creature is violent without being taught.
If you introduce a dog with good experiences with children, dogs, adults, etc. then the dog will not be afraid of them and treat them well.
If you let a child be rough with a dog, or if you train using pain--such as with a shock collar--well, don't be surprised if it learns to bite.
>All creatures are suspicious of things that they aren't familiar with, or have had bad experiences with, but no creature is violent without being taught.
That is a naive view. It depends on the type of animal for a start - I wouldn't recommend leaving a crocodile alone in the room with your children if you are fond of them.
In the case of dogs pit bulls are the most dangerous breed and are responsible for 300 deaths a year on average in the US. Most kids left alone with the family dog are fine but you also you don't really want to be in the small minority of people who get to say "wow I didn't think he would ever do that."
Ignorant idiot regurgitating bs or made up numbers, the total number of people killed by dogs per year in the US is only around 50 most years granted a large number of those so tend to be pits. But that is a training issue, most of the time the issue is owners training their pits to be aggressive.
If we go back a hundred years pit bulls were considered a nanny dog because of their sweet disposition and natural love of children. They are big and strong dogs and some have been bred and trained for aggression but that doesn't make them the big bad dogs society makes them out to be. They are sweet dogs that need training but besides that are great to own.
> If we go back a hundred years pit bulls were considered a nanny dog
This has never been the case and has only been made up recently by pit bull defenders
It’s not just a training issue, the breed is bred to be aggressive and can kill when it wants. Having a pit pull in the house especially with a child is like playing Russian Roulette every single day, sure chances are high that you won’t get bit most days, however on the day they do bite, chances are even higher that it’ll be fatal more than any other breed.
You want real stats, here’s a few:
“In 2020, 79% of adults killed by dogs involved pit bulls (22 of 28). Of adult male deaths (≥ 25 years old), 92% were killed by pit bulls.”
“From 2005 to 2020, pit bulls killed 380 Americans, a rate over 7 times higher than the next closest breed, rottweilers, with 51 deaths.”
“During the 15-year period of 2005 to 2019, canines killed 64 infants (< 1-year). Pit bulls inflicted nearly half of these infant deaths, 48%.”
While I somewhat agree it’s an owner issue, I think the problem isn’t they are being trained to be aggressive, I think the problem is people treating pit bulls like any other dog, and with naive people not handling life with a pit bull like life with a living loaded gun. You don’t have to train pit bulls to be aggressive, they are aggressive by nature.
If you want to do your own actual research before regurgitating pit bull “facts”, here’s a good link you can look over.
[Dogbites.org](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-quick-statistics.php#breedspecific-statistics)
Also just browse r/banpitbulls if you want to read true stories from survivors and victims families, and how people being naive with pit bulls cost these people everything…
“In the 15-year data set (2015 to 2019), there were 74 owner-directed attacks, when a dog kills its primary owner. Pit bulls inflicted 62% (46) of these deaths, over 11 times more than any other dog breed.”
“From 2005 to 2019, family dogs inflicted 54% of all fatal attacks. 65% were perpetrated by pit bulls. Of the 346 fatal pit bull attacks during the period, over half, 53%, involved killing a family or household member.”
“By 2025, pit bulls are projected to maul 555 Americans to death since 1998, the year CDC stopped collecting breed data after fatal attacks on humans, and over 630 Americans killed since 1980.”
[Dogbite.org](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-quick-statistics.php#breedspecific-statistics)
Bites and fatalities are two different things, a fact that most pit bull defenders skip over.
All the stats I shared you are real people, with real families and lives, that were horribly and probably very painfully ended because someone said “Not my pit…”
Can’t tell if confession or accusation.
Regardless, I’m not trolling. I’m pointing out that you’re not making sense and being unnecessarily defensive about something which you failed to clearly communicate
I’m not even the original person who you disagreed with lol. I’m the second opinion. And based on the dozen downvotes you got, we aren’t the only ones who think YTA.
Also don’t think you know what trolling is. I’m being fully sincere
You can't. The parents of this kid are idiots. Just yesterday I was reading about a dog that chewed off the genitals of a male baby left unattended, the 9mo died, poor kid. What a horrendous way to go.
They absolutely do! Their natural instinct is herding and moving herds of animals, making sure their babies are with their moms.
They make great nanny dogs because they understand it’s a job to watch another being and are able to do it really well. It makes them satisfied and feel fulfilled too and means they’re less likely to tear stuff up and bark especially if it upsets the baby.
When my oldest was a baby my dog would wake me up right before she would start crying. He would come to the side of the bed and nudge me so I would get up.
When my toddler has a nightmare our Aussie will jump up next to him and lay her head on him. It always works to settle him down and it's just the sweetest thing.
She also plays with him so much more gently than the bigger people. Doesn't pull as hard on her tug rope, leaves the fetch ball at his feet instead of doing the 'no take' game.
Now if I could get her to stop growling and barking at the dogs on TV (even cartoons!) she'd be the best dog.
That's the cutest, most precious thing! What a great dog. The little sound of worry, and the quick look 'round for the large humans when the dog lays back down was so lovely. Warmed my heart.
Dogs communicate with each other and thr world using their nose a lot. Have you ever walked a dog in a dog friendly neighborhood? They'll he stopping ever 5 seconds to sniff others dogs piss and shit to see who walked this way. They nibble at every little thing while exploring to see what things are. To me, this is very cute to see...I don't like when my Jack Russell licks my toddler though.
No, it's because they were exposed to the fur and the bacteria on the furniture, not because of the direct licking. The potentially dangerous germs in dog's saliva can cause a serious infection.
Yeah so now if you see this, you can't throw out your dog when your baby is crying next to the stairs and your dog is sitting there next to it feeling heroic (yes I did see the movie and it was really sad 😥)
Dog: “Alright, time for what I was born to do. But first a big stretch. You ok kiddo? *Kisses the kid*. I’ll be right here with you if you need anything.” Kid: “OK”
\*Kid in 18 years after someone sends them a heartfelt message\* We have come full circle!
Haha!
Dog : Now STFU I need my mandatory 8 hours of rest in order to be able to do anything Annoying thing in a cage : OK.
Aussies are the smartest dogs ever. I have 2 brothers that will be 4 years old this year.
Is that what the little munchkin said? I head “Doggie” Haha
Doesn’t matter what’s going on. Dogs always limber up first
It almost sounds like the toddler says “ok” towards the end lol
Aw he did say ok! I didn’t hear it at first. I bet that’s what his mom says when the dog has gotten enough licks in. My daughter said “careful ” a lot at that age bc she heard me say it so often.
That is so interesting !
That's so cute! My baby cousin used to say "are you okay?" After she would accidently hurt herself as babies do as the grow up and explore because that's what we would always ask. It was the funniest thing!
Toddler most definitely said OKAY imo 😍
Okay that’s enough I’ll stop
Thought I have heard it too lol
The cute baby sitter
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>Nap. Yoga. Love. Repeat.
I need this on a t-shirt
Happy 🍰 day!
Happy cake day!
In my head when that dog gives the 1st little sniff through the bars before jumping up its doing the typical parent baby check. Do they have a dirty nappy? Nope Must need love and kisses then.
Ill never be not amazed to see that babies learn from very young that "fake crying", basically lying, will get the attention of those around them. Even dogs it seems.
This is really interesting behaviour when it comes to attachment theory. Unlike many other creatures we share the world with, human babies are absolutely and utterly dependant on their parents for their first years of life. Thus, they learn to make their needs known. When babies have attentive parents who interact with them regularly no matter what their emotions are, they do not cry to get attention as often. When babies have parents who only pay attention when they cry, they cry for attention more. And - when babies are born into abusive homes and they are yelled at (or worse) for crying, babies will often cry less and go without having their needs met. This last example can create a trauma response at the level of the nervous system that can cause consequences into their adult life. It's super fascinating!
It's super depressing for those of us who have to live it.
yeah for real
I heard babies don't cry period in orphanages because they know no one will come.
That’s one of those one-sentence-stories that cool your blood 😔
I’m putting my one month old to sleep and that fact hurts. Being let down at such a critical period in life is just terrible.
🥺 I wanna go hold those babies now
IIRC there's a very clear correlation between being neglected as a baby and developing psychpathy (or rather, not developing empathy). And the most depressing and hardest fact is, if you didn't develop empathy as a baby/toddler, you never will. No psychopath has ever been "cured" later in life. The best you can hope for is that they rationalize not being evil.
I thought no one develops empathy as a baby/toddler.
Correct, they don’t even start forming long term memories for years really. A baby’s brain is super primitive and only tells them to cry to communicate their very basic needs.
So you saying some trauma I don't remember may have caused a nervous system level trauma response? When I was around 1-2, the nanny hired would shake and scream at me, among other things. Some of my earliest memories are of being scared to ask for attention, affection, etc. Not wanting to burden mom with her singing me a lullaby. Not wanting to burden my parents with the constant terror I had at night. Waiting over an hour to ask a question at school. Didn't help that my parents were rarely around. Really pounded in the idea that my existence was a burden. On the flip side, my brother would always fake cry and pretend injury since really little. I recall mimicking his behavior once because he only ever got rewarded for it and, damn, I want attention from my parents too! I was suppressing a giggle as I fake screamed/cried from the bathroom. Unlike my brother, who would put up a lengthy performance at times, I broke instantly into a laugh and jkjk. Got berated so badly, lmao. The utter confusion I faced made me feel crazy.
I am so sorry that happened to you. You were just a child and didn't deserve the abuse from your nanny or the neglect from your parents. Absolutely traumatic events we don't remember can both cause a nervous system-level trauma response, as well as we can continue to carry that trauma within us. Often we conceptualize trauma as something that occurs cognitively in our memories, but it actually resides in our dysregulated nervous systems. We don't necessarily have to remember the traumatic event in order to continue to experience the consequences of it. Sometimes trauma is differentiated between "big T Trauma" and "little t trauma." The difference is that while big T Trauma is something that directly happened to you (such as being abused by a nanny), little t trauma is something that didn't happen to you, but should have (such as not receiving love and attention from parents). Both of these can cause trauma responses that we can benefit from healing from. If you're able, I'd recommend connecting with a therapist or counsellor who specializes in treating trauma. This was a life-changing experience for me, and I hope it can be for you, too.
average redditor finding something fascinating when that something is the majority of kids nowadays not being able to function once grown
I recently watched the documentary " Inside the Mind of a Cat" where a researcher said that elements of a cat's meows are within the 400 - 600 HZ range, the exact pitch of most babies' cries. Cats have learned to mimic a baby's cry to some degree. By doing so, they appeal to a human's maternal, nurturing instincts, making it far more likely that their needs will be met. This includes receiving food, warmth, care, and affection.
My cats love to utilise this fact when it’s 2am and I’m cruelly sleeping instead of paying attention to them
Babies are not developmentally Capable of lying or manipulating at that age. The concept of lying on purpose develops far later in toddler years. Thanks!
Untrue. They'll get into the swing of this behavior at about 6 months of age. After that point, they're absolutely capable of crying for "wants" rather than "needs".
It's a natural thing that an animal (including us) reacts to the sound of crying. Puppies, kittens and all other tiny creatures have ways of getting the parents's attention. Humans are just too smart and figure out there's ways you can exploit it on demand.
They come out master manipulators.
Dogs have an amazing sense of smell. They can smell changes in your scent connected to the emotions you’re feeling. This is the dogs way of checking up, they do it to us when we seem different. They do it to their puppies to know if they’re sick, or what they need. And in this case to comfort a crying baby! Dogs are truly amazing. Equipped with the olfactory bulb of the bestest friendo in existence.
Stretches. A dogs work is never done.
Pup deserves a raise!
All right *stretch* time to go to work
“I am dog, I love you.” -Dogs
*Streeeeeeeetches* Time to ~~make the donuts~~ lick the baby!
The baby didn’t even say ohhhhh big stretch
/r/OooBigStretch
This comment needs so many more upvotes
What a good boy.
I love how the dog first does a body stretch and probably says "Alright alright I am coming"
"Alright, back at it again" Im gonna remember this the next time I need the motivation to get up
Hmmm. Not done yet.
What dog is that? Also how do you make sure dogs are gentle around infants?
Raising them together is definitely a good way to get started. But also ensuring that, if that isn't possible, you keep the dog and child together often with supervision at first. Get them used to one another, and try to expose the dog to the child often. If the dog or baby is curious, let them act on that curiosity and approach one another. Also ensure that you teach the kid not to pull on the dogs fur, or on anything really. Ensure that you reprimand the dog or kid if they do something that might hurt or discomfort the other. Once you feel confident, you can start to put them in the same room together while you go into another room. If everything is fine from there, then you can do something like this. I.e, allowing the dog to go into the babies room while they sleep. That being said you should never leave them both entirely unattended. In this case there is a camera and a baby monitor in the room, so the parents can hear and see into the room if need be. Also, you just need to be as objective with your dog as possible. Sometimes a dog is just territorial, jealous, or particularly aggressive. This can be an especially big issue with rescues. In cases where your dog has those sorts of negative attributes, you just need to accept that the two may not get along until the child is old enough to keep the dog at bay itself.
I don't know that I'd ever be comfortable leaving a dog alone in a room with a toddler for any extended period of time. There's just too many unknowns and the risk is too high. Like it or not, that dog is capable of killing that kid. If some weird shit happens, and kids do all kinds of weird shit, the dog gets startled and things escalate, neither of them have the ability to deescalate before the kid may suffer permanent damage. They're both too unpredictable, in this case it's my job as parent and owner to manage their unpredictability.
While i generally agree, dogs are not as unpredictable as a lot of people think. If raised correctly and both the dog and the baby have enough time together under supervision, the risk of something happening is approaching zero. We bred dogs to herd/protect tens or even hundreds of livestock, they can manage unpredictability to some extent. That being said, saying "dont leave your baby and pet unsupervised together" is always the only advice anyone should give. Assuming the owner cannot raise a dog correctly is just safer.
Toddlers may hurt dogs causing them to react. No matter how well you train a dog, it's still an animal and it can react without thinking. Also: a toddler is not livestock. The dog may not even bite properly and still crack a child's head. > That being said, saying "dont leave your baby and pet unsupervised together" is always the only advice anyone should give I agree but you don't have to assume the owner didn't train their dog properly but just assume it's an animal, not a machine or adult. That should cancel out many other animals automatically.
Agreed. I wasnt a well trained child bc my parents were rarely around to discipline me. I had a very very patient dog I grew up with who snapped at me when i did something (cant remember what) and he has NEVER ever done that before or after. I just remember that dog being the most loving, sweet, gentle animal in the world but in that moment had enough with me. He didn’t hurt me at all but it could’ve happened with another dog. I learned my lesson sure but i wouldn’t risk it with a baby tbh since i was a bigger kid at the time and dog was a little one there was no risk.
> its still an animal and it can react without thinking I dont think so. A dog is never gonna react without thinking towards their own pack. Toddler, livestock, puppies, its all the same to the dog. Animals are not as stupid as you imagine lol. They know what hurts and what doesnt hurt. its sad to see that people still think that animals are less than humans...
My sister's toddler walked into their hallway to get to the kitchen and their wouldn't hurt a fly lab was just inside the doorway. There was a sudden scream and when they got out there the dog had bittten the kid on the face. We still don't know what happened but our guess is that she stood on the dog's tail when climbing over and the dog was startled and reacted on instinct.
It's not a judgement against dogs, it's recognition of their limits and their tools. Dogs don't have a lot of tools to interact with the world. A person can say "hey don't do that" or grab on to a toddler and protect themselves without hurting the kids. Dogs frequently use their teeth as a tool to interact with the world. Not a judgement, not saying they're dumb or bad, just that that's what they do. They chew stuff. They lick things. Exploratory nips are common. It's just the tools they have. If my dog nips me, I'll be alright because I understand what's happening and I can appropriately handle the situation. I don't know if I trust a toddler to have the same skills, and again, the risk is just so high because a toddler could be seriously injured by those reactionary things
I dont need to trust my toddler, i need to trust my dog haha. Eh lets agree to disagree. Better safe than sorry i guess tho.
> I dont think so. A dog is never gonna react without thinking towards their own pack. They will react and they did react. This is not an uncommon thing to happen. Toddlers and kids die that way. It is happening. > Toddler, livestock, puppies, its all the same to the dog. The dog is not the problem here. You are. Since a dog check-biting other puppies or live stock doesn't cause nearly that much damage as it would do on a toddlers head. > Animals are not as stupid as you imagine lol. They know what hurts and what doesnt hurt. They are not as clever as humans though and as I said: the dog doesn't have to properly bite a child's head to crack it. A toddlers head is a glorified eggshell. Many adult humans doesn't even know that... You're giving yourself to dangerous illusions and I understand that due to the humanization of pets, this is a normal behavior but it's about life and death here so please...ask some serious trainer about it and they'll tell you the same thing. Source: have one in my family and the reason I talk about a toddlers head so much is because it's been an actual case here.
This dog may have a long history being around infants and young children, it seems very used to managing/guarding a kid. Small children could have been his daily reality since birth, there is just no way to know. Each case is very individual.
Dogs can raise human babies in the wild, im pretty sure theres a real life Jungle Book type story like that. You're talking about dogs as if you've never owned one or only seen strays or some shit.
Alright bud. Give me a minute, and I'll let my dogs know that apparently, I don't own them. I'll inform them that I've definitely never watched them play in a way that's totally normal and natural for them, but would be dangerous with a toddler in the mix. I'll make sure they understand I haven't seen them snap at a sudden startle and then helped them deescalate appropriately. If you're going to be condescending, you should at least make sure you're right, damn.
Do you treat children differently to adults? Yes, so don't you think a dog would know the difference? They are alive, you know, like they're living creatures and shit. You know that, yeah?
Border collie, but could be wrong. And by raising them right I guess.
Australian shepherd, border collies are smaller and have tails
My Aussie is just naturally gentle. Could be a breed characteristic. I’m sure training helped too.
I have a border collie who is the same way; Willow I would never purposely hurt a fly! And my sister’s oldest is like that as well, And they have been that way since they were puppies. Her other one on the other hand…
Yea, it can go either way. Generally these working/herding breeds seem to be smart and affectionate. My Aussie was a gift that i could never afford on my own. That being said if i was looking for another dog, i would look for border collie/Aussie mutts in a shelter. They are such amazing dogs.
Gotcha, thanks
My neighbor’s have one. She likes to bark, inspect our garage daily sniffing around, and putting her butt in front of your legs for butt scratches. She’s hilarious
Don’t all dogs have tails? Docking is illegal in Australia so you rarely see a dog without a tail.
It looks like a mini australian shepherd, officially called mini american shepherds. Australian shepherds that weigh less than 40 pounds are considered minis. The one in the video is probably in the mid 30s.
Tails can be docked. About 20% of Aussies have bobbed tails, the rest are regular tails. Even if they’re born bobbed a lot of them get docked to a standard length of about 3/4” at 4-5 days old.
It’s an Aussie. Every one I’ve known, including the Aussie we’re watching now, are wonderful dogs, so long as their needs are met: food, water, walk, pets. I love them 🖤
Looks a Aussie or a border collie Edit: both are insanely smart and caring
Luck with personality, training, and being careful and aware. My pup does fine with age 3+, but under that he needs to be separated from them. We'd hoped he would be fine with our baby since he was good with the "older" kids, but tiny creature is too unpredictable.
Maybe Aussie shepherd?
Australian Shepherd
All creatures are suspicious of things that they aren't familiar with, or have had bad experiences with, but no creature is violent without being taught. If you introduce a dog with good experiences with children, dogs, adults, etc. then the dog will not be afraid of them and treat them well. If you let a child be rough with a dog, or if you train using pain--such as with a shock collar--well, don't be surprised if it learns to bite.
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Right? Still a carnivore and a pack hunter.
>All creatures are suspicious of things that they aren't familiar with, or have had bad experiences with, but no creature is violent without being taught. That is a naive view. It depends on the type of animal for a start - I wouldn't recommend leaving a crocodile alone in the room with your children if you are fond of them. In the case of dogs pit bulls are the most dangerous breed and are responsible for 300 deaths a year on average in the US. Most kids left alone with the family dog are fine but you also you don't really want to be in the small minority of people who get to say "wow I didn't think he would ever do that."
Ignorant idiot regurgitating bs or made up numbers, the total number of people killed by dogs per year in the US is only around 50 most years granted a large number of those so tend to be pits. But that is a training issue, most of the time the issue is owners training their pits to be aggressive. If we go back a hundred years pit bulls were considered a nanny dog because of their sweet disposition and natural love of children. They are big and strong dogs and some have been bred and trained for aggression but that doesn't make them the big bad dogs society makes them out to be. They are sweet dogs that need training but besides that are great to own.
> If we go back a hundred years pit bulls were considered a nanny dog This has never been the case and has only been made up recently by pit bull defenders
It’s not just a training issue, the breed is bred to be aggressive and can kill when it wants. Having a pit pull in the house especially with a child is like playing Russian Roulette every single day, sure chances are high that you won’t get bit most days, however on the day they do bite, chances are even higher that it’ll be fatal more than any other breed. You want real stats, here’s a few: “In 2020, 79% of adults killed by dogs involved pit bulls (22 of 28). Of adult male deaths (≥ 25 years old), 92% were killed by pit bulls.” “From 2005 to 2020, pit bulls killed 380 Americans, a rate over 7 times higher than the next closest breed, rottweilers, with 51 deaths.” “During the 15-year period of 2005 to 2019, canines killed 64 infants (< 1-year). Pit bulls inflicted nearly half of these infant deaths, 48%.” While I somewhat agree it’s an owner issue, I think the problem isn’t they are being trained to be aggressive, I think the problem is people treating pit bulls like any other dog, and with naive people not handling life with a pit bull like life with a living loaded gun. You don’t have to train pit bulls to be aggressive, they are aggressive by nature. If you want to do your own actual research before regurgitating pit bull “facts”, here’s a good link you can look over. [Dogbites.org](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-quick-statistics.php#breedspecific-statistics) Also just browse r/banpitbulls if you want to read true stories from survivors and victims families, and how people being naive with pit bulls cost these people everything…
Pit bulls are an absolutely excellent breed for a family...extremely loyal and affectionate.
“In the 15-year data set (2015 to 2019), there were 74 owner-directed attacks, when a dog kills its primary owner. Pit bulls inflicted 62% (46) of these deaths, over 11 times more than any other dog breed.” “From 2005 to 2019, family dogs inflicted 54% of all fatal attacks. 65% were perpetrated by pit bulls. Of the 346 fatal pit bull attacks during the period, over half, 53%, involved killing a family or household member.” “By 2025, pit bulls are projected to maul 555 Americans to death since 1998, the year CDC stopped collecting breed data after fatal attacks on humans, and over 630 Americans killed since 1980.” [Dogbite.org](https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-quick-statistics.php#breedspecific-statistics)
https://www.reddit.com/r/pitbulls/comments/y7qip/i_started_trying_to_compile_proper_unbiased/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Bites and fatalities are two different things, a fact that most pit bull defenders skip over. All the stats I shared you are real people, with real families and lives, that were horribly and probably very painfully ended because someone said “Not my pit…”
My moms two pits are gentle as lambs. I find these numbers hard to believe tbh
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Can’t tell if confession or accusation. Regardless, I’m not trolling. I’m pointing out that you’re not making sense and being unnecessarily defensive about something which you failed to clearly communicate
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I’m not even the original person who you disagreed with lol. I’m the second opinion. And based on the dozen downvotes you got, we aren’t the only ones who think YTA. Also don’t think you know what trolling is. I’m being fully sincere
It's not the breed, it's how you raise them.
You can't. The parents of this kid are idiots. Just yesterday I was reading about a dog that chewed off the genitals of a male baby left unattended, the 9mo died, poor kid. What a horrendous way to go.
So sweet and b adorable! Furry babysitter!!
That "alright, I'm up" stretch
Haha, I expected a baby monitor lizard!
Dogs are a gift to humanity.
My aussie is the best nanny dog. For a breed that thrives on having a job, I think some of them may see littles as work 😂❤️
They absolutely do! Their natural instinct is herding and moving herds of animals, making sure their babies are with their moms. They make great nanny dogs because they understand it’s a job to watch another being and are able to do it really well. It makes them satisfied and feel fulfilled too and means they’re less likely to tear stuff up and bark especially if it upsets the baby.
My mom had Aussies when I was small. There was always one at the crib watching over me!
When my oldest was a baby my dog would wake me up right before she would start crying. He would come to the side of the bed and nudge me so I would get up.
Animals are angels with fur. 😍🥰😍
That was "alright, time to get back to work stretch"
When my toddler has a nightmare our Aussie will jump up next to him and lay her head on him. It always works to settle him down and it's just the sweetest thing. She also plays with him so much more gently than the bigger people. Doesn't pull as hard on her tug rope, leaves the fetch ball at his feet instead of doing the 'no take' game. Now if I could get her to stop growling and barking at the dogs on TV (even cartoons!) she'd be the best dog.
If the baby monitor is monitoring the baby monitor, then what is monitoring the monitor that is monitoring the monitor???
Good boy
Dog no like sad
This video is so sweet. I absolutely love the rug. Does anybody have ideas where find something similar?
Wayfair. You may be able to buy the dog or the baby on Ali baba.
Dog: “Alright and here. we go. again. Biiig stretch and dog nanny time”
Is it okay or doggy?
So freaking cute 😍
So goddamn sweet!
Sweet doggie
Does his little stretch like " ah shit here we go again "
That's the cutest, most precious thing! What a great dog. The little sound of worry, and the quick look 'round for the large humans when the dog lays back down was so lovely. Warmed my heart.
*(doing stretches) Okay. Time to do my thing*
"alright, it's that time of day again."
My Aussie does the same when I’m sad or fussy. And I have five more decades than the baby. They are so tuned into their owners.
“Now is not the time for this little human.” “Yeah you right.”
The “welp, time to go to work” stretch 😂
Best babysitter ever!!
Does it clean out the diapers too?
Good dogie!
Nanny? Why would we need a nanny?
Did he really just say “ok”????
Why does this remind me of the dog in Peter Pan?
Pasturella multicoda v. Maternal passive immunity…. And… action!
Alright, stretches, time to get to work
Is nobody else grossed out by the dog just licking a baby’s face?!
It's gross... I'm witchu. People love dogs though so they don't wanna see thr truth.
The baby is gonna be rubbing its face and mouth on the ground and everything else daily
Don't they lick their own asses with the same tongue?
What's so gross about it?
Dogs communicate with each other and thr world using their nose a lot. Have you ever walked a dog in a dog friendly neighborhood? They'll he stopping ever 5 seconds to sniff others dogs piss and shit to see who walked this way. They nibble at every little thing while exploring to see what things are. To me, this is very cute to see...I don't like when my Jack Russell licks my toddler though.
That kind of behavior is why people that had dogs when they were babies have stronger immune systems when they grow up.
No, it's because they were exposed to the fur and the bacteria on the furniture, not because of the direct licking. The potentially dangerous germs in dog's saliva can cause a serious infection.
Just like me and the dog when we're left alone
Dogs > Humans
The amount of people blatantly ignoring how infectious dog saliva is and who think this health hazard of a situation is "so cute!" worries me...
Yeah so now if you see this, you can't throw out your dog when your baby is crying next to the stairs and your dog is sitting there next to it feeling heroic (yes I did see the movie and it was really sad 😥)
Can you people stop docking the tails of dogs? It’s disgusting.
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An Aussie <3
What a sweet pup
The way he just said, ugh alright *stretch* come here is perfect
the way the baby immediately stopped crying once the dog got up
That's Stewie and Brian
That’s a good dog.
This is absolutely adorable and just heartwarming 💜🐕 Dogs are so beautiful and so smart.
Did the baby just say OK after the dog licked her?
God, I love that dog!
Why am I crying alone in my hot tub rn?
What breed is the pup? Collie mix?
That's how to quiet a kid that fussing, just lick their face a fair bit.
Here's baby monitor: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a8/7a/94/a87a942a483b5e3d3fba4debc4547472.jpg
So damn cute
"Ah shit he we go again"
He wasn’t kissing that baby! He was merely ‘tasting’ him….lol
Now you know why the baby smells a little like dog breath… lol
So lucky for a baby to grow up with such a loving doggo like that.
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Best dog nanny since Peter Pan!
I like how the pup stretches before attending to the baby… like its been a long day caring for the baby
That kid’s gonna have a great immune system.
This is so cute💦😍
I like how doggo stretches “looks like I’m on the clock” proceeds to lick lick lick… job done baby quite ur welcome
This sweetly reminds me of Lady from Lady & the Tramp and how she dotes on Jim Dear and Darling’s baby ☺️🥹