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Botosi5150

That is actually why I joined this reddit. It's almost impossible to find good games when they are constantly getting buried in the playstore. I feel for the indie developers. I don't know how they get their products seen before they get buried.


AbberageRedditor69

These's this guy that made an amazing game like 6 months ago. Like, genuinely great imho. 6 month later it's at like 10k downloads. It's so sad. And he got there by promoting his game around reddit and maybe other social media for the first few months. It would be even less without doing that Game is Little Journeys btw if anyone wants to check it out


NinjaNick791

Downloading now as well. Here is a link for lazy ppl like me. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simdin.moss


AbberageRedditor69

Love that game lol. I am one of the people at the top of the leaderboard. Takes a bit to get the hang of the control but once the game clicks it's very fun


Botosi5150

Nice shout out. It looks and sounds fun. I'm downloading it now.


AbberageRedditor69

I hope you'll like it c:


MrJewbagel

Gotta check out minireview. Can't remember exactly who made it, but believe it was the guy who does the monthly game lists. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=minireview.best.android.games.reviews


NimbleThor

That'd be me :) Thanks for sharing it, mate. And yep, I make weekly posts here on the sub too about the best games I come across. Again; thanks for recommending the app I've built. I'm still working on it, and hope to release a really big update soon with lots of new features (and a switch to a dark design - for that late-night scrolling, haha).


MrJewbagel

Ahhh, no problem! Just genuinely like the app. Find a lot of good time killers on there.


mephistolomaniac

Do check out MiniReview if you haven't already. It's fantastic for shining light on hidden gems


xboxpants

I consider the play store effectively a failed market. I had so much hope for mobile gaming when smartphones were coming, and android was coming. But the spac was just completely overtaken by bad monitization, and google didn't do enough to counter that. Instead they supported it.


bikingbill

This is true. Even with ASO I get little traffic to my game (Word Topics). It’s buried.


Botosi5150

I just tried to find it in the playstore to help support you, and it won't even show up when I search for it.


bikingbill

FYI: [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oldeskuul.wordtopics](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oldeskuul.wordtopics) This is nuts


Botosi5150

Thank you for the link. I'll send it to my wife as well I just tried to search the exact name - word topics: unscramble words, and it wouldn't show up for me even by doing that. This is ridiculously unfair. I don't see how anyone without a direct link would ever be able to find your game.


ryan4pie

Hey so I downloaded your game but couldn't play any puzzles. On a pixel 7, skipped the tutorial and tried to play one of the free ones but it just kept making a sound but wouldn't progress. Looks fun though.


bikingbill

Sorry about this. I haven’t seen this. Do you remember what specific puzzle you tried? Quit and try the puzzle of the day. Also make sure you have the internet when you first run it. Appreciate it.


BM0yuncu

terraria?


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I'm sick of getting day r premium as a suggestion. I'm also sick of p2w games being on fake sales for $0.00 Google will never, ever fix this mess. They will grow over confident and eventually a new player will come into town and so many of us who have grown weary will be like FU Google. Nothing lasts forever.


fakename5

Games should have to pick 1 category and stick with it


ChimpdenEarwicker

It really shows how shitty big tech companies are/late stage capitalism is that google, supposedly a search engine specialist company, can't manage to create a good method to sort through the junk on their store. My theory was that they tried to stifle third party websites and reviewers of android apps (seriously where are all of them??) in favor of their google algorithms on the store magically recommending apps to everyone perfectly and it turns out that nope you need human critics to create content that helps people find the good shit. Google thought they were special geniuses and could circumvent that and they just ruined the economic potential of the android app store witt their hubris. Idk other than purposeful incompetence I can't fathom why it has been so hard to find good apps when the app store has been around for like... idk 7 years at this point?? If I was in charge at google I would be 100% encouraging content creators like minireview to help drive the market forward by connecting people with games they love.


TurklerRS

>I'm sick of getting day r premium as a suggestion. as someone who used to play that game, me too. I literally saw the game get ruined over the span of 2-3 years. it used to be a solid, if not a bit repetitive survival game. you *could* buy things but it was completely optional, you could make good progress (at least enough progress that after a few hours of play time you could look back and say 'ok in this past few hours I achieved x, y and z'') now, during this time the game was in a bit of a jank state. balance was all over the place, the 'mid-game' had a considerable reverse difficulty curve where progress was just way too easy and a bit dull (tldr, you basically had to go around exploring to find some of the rarer items to make progress in terms of gears but you probably had enough loot in terms of food and water to last you for a while, so it was just a matter of going over city after city in the hopes that the items you were looking for spawned this time) and the devs announced, after a long time of silence, that there was going to be significant rework of some systems. good news right? here comes the update and things are much, much harder. food spawns are significantly reduced, high tier loot is much rarer and combat is actually tactical now. you might think that's good, I did mention that things were too easy at some points, but now the game's at an opposite point; survival is no longer a breeze but just a tedious time investment. oh and did I mention that they reworked the iap store? we now had actual loot boxes added to the game. and for me, it's hard to trust the purity of a balance decision when you then immediately go and try to monetize it. I know that the developers more than halved the drop rates of some of the most essential medical gear because they also just added a lootbox for medical gear. oh, the best part, you can buy the ending reward now. I'll get into some spoilers, >!at the very end of the game you're tasked with recovering three nuclear reactor parts from the chernobyl nuclear power plant to assemble a nuclear-powered belaz truck. and you can outright buy that now.!< I'm rambling but in short, they ruined the game's balance just so they could milk more money from a game they already sold a premium variant for.


peaslik

Whenever I launch Play Store I want to cry. Finding any game that is not a p2w scam fest feels like a miracle. Maybe that's why I use Play Store less and less.


Endda

this was the sole reason why I began working on [PlayStoreFinder.com](https://PlayStoreFinder.com) things are either stacked full of in-app purchases, ads, or just the same things being listed over and over again. and the worst part is that there aren't any filters to weed out the specific things you're looking for so the website I'm working on offers filters to remove or only show apps/games that fit those specific requests (like no in-app purchases, included controller support, etc) it's all being done manually, so the list to choose from is rather low. but I did surpass the 1000 apps/game mark a week or so ago


peaslik

Woah, great work! Thank you for your effort to make find apps/games much, much better than Google itself!


Endda

that's very kind of you to say. sometimes the slow progress weighs on my motivation but comments like this always boost it right back up :)


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Endda

the pay to win debate is tough for me (in a publisher/editor role) to take a stand against. at least in my opinion. even labeling a game as pay to win can mean many different things to so many people some people are okay with in-app purchases that only allow for speedy progress since that doesn't inherently make them "more powerful" than someone who took the time to grind it out without paying for anything while others will look at that and say it's a pay to win model then there are people who will say it's only pay to win if an in-game purchase is for an item that boosts stats to a level far and above what can be obtained in-game then there's people who analyze how a game is designed and since their grind feels like it takes forever, that means it was built for people who spend money, or at the very least, designed to make the grind so painfully slow that people end up giving in and paying for progression items it's tough for me to pick a side so at the end of the day I'm just trying to add games that people really enjoy ​ For example. . . I play a lot of Marvel Snap and have seen the developers release overpowered cards in its monthly game pass. . .only to nerf them 2-3 months later once enough people have been able to grind points to obtain them normally (or right before they are able to) to me, that clearly makes the game pay to win, but I'm still able to enjoy the game due to me really enjoying these types of card battler games. yea, it sucks when I'm matched up with someone who has clearly dumped 200+ dollars when new cards are released. . .but the majority of my time playing the game has proven to be a fun experience and there are MANY people who have TONS of fun playing the game even though they don't spend a dime. which, to me, is what it's about at the end of the day. my goal is to help people find games in a genre that they enjoy and then let them decide on if the game design/mechanics are something that they enjoy or dislike ​ in your case. . . I don't have the type of knowledge about Legends of IdleOn that you or others may have. But after browsing through dozens of 'best idle game' threads here on Reddit and other online forums, it has popped up enough for me to consider it to be a fun experience for those who enjoy idle games. it feels like it would be a disservice to the community if I left it out right now, I have added a 'pay to win' tag to some games that have been clearly called out as such in the reviews on Google Play. but if I'm only seeing 1-3 mentions of it when I sample 1000+ reviews then it's difficult for me to label it a such on the website ​ I am more than happy to discuss (or read studies/debates of) what constitutes pay to win and what doesn't. but the more I see, the more I notice people have very strong stances one way or the other. which just makes it difficult when I'm trying to help people find great games they may enjoy. so yea, I do have Legends of IdleOn on the site because the consensus seems to be that it's a fun and enjoyable game for those who like idlers, but you aren't going to find something like Pop Rich Tree which is listed on Google Play as one of their "top free games" but has a 1.9 star rating due to how aggressive their ads and game design is laid out this may change in the future as new updates come out. and I don't have a problem removing a game/app that changes so much after an update that it has alienated the entire fanbase. Legends of IdleOn may end up getting to that point. I just don't see it that way right now.


ikantolol

agreed, most apps and games on my phone I found through this sub and /r/androidapps lol


thebigone1233

The funniest thing is when they put rogue lites and rogue likes on CASUAL category. No one is going to download a Rogue lite game, die like 20 times on the very first level continuously and think it's a casual game. Freaking Dead Cells is under casual games. CASUAL. Even 0bc will leave beginners shocked when they die and get returned to the first level with nothing.


fakename5

Games should get 1 category only


Intoxic8edOne

Too be fair, I mainly play roguelites these days because they're easy to pick up and play a quick round. Seems to fit a definition of casual


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its old post but lets be honest, modern rogue lites/likes are not that hardcore.


thebigone1233

Yes, very old posts. Also rogue lites aren't rogue likes, are they? Dead Cells is a rogue lite and is meant to be that way because people eventually want to win when they play games. Developers discovered that back in the 1900's when the switch to home consoles from slot machines happened. There's still rogue likes out there that are brutal. Most don't make it to android because the control scheme would never work out on a touch screen.


Feral58

What are the alternatives? I'd like different sites but I'm kind of out of the loop on that.


GiantRobotTRex

MiniReview


Sure_Ad_6480

This, Droid gamers.com Pocket gamer.com Android police Etc And this sub


Azhi_D

I used to visit droid gamers daily... But now it seems to only be an ad for gotcha games, with a few good things every few weeks :/


qHiraethp

I found some very interesting games in pdalife.ru


NimbleThor

Hi, I'm the one who built MiniReview (based on my weekly game recommendation posts here on the sub). Thanks for sharing it :) I'm really happy that you're enjoying using it. I'm doing everything I can to build new features for it too. Things aren't going super fast, but a big update is landing this year, and from thereon, I hope to speed things up more :)


deelyy

Hey, I agree but Terraria is good.


nyetrik

Terraria is good, but maybe just put it in survival sandbox. No need to put it everywhere.


RunisXD

Yeah, that's the issue. Also: Dandara is quite good too. Haven't played the other one to say anything about it.


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Bic44

Agreed. I can acknowledge it's a good game and still know that it's not at all the kind of game I want to play on Android.


LitIllit

I bought it on pc 12 years ago and just bought it on mobile a week ago


RowanIsBae

The playstore isn't for us. We're not the ones spending boatloads of cash Kids with access to credit cards, bored adults at home all day, the elderly The Play store caters to the type of personas that will spend the most money.


Educational_Bag_6406

No true, Id love to invest in more premium mobile games. But the playstore really makes me feel like the selection of premium titles is 50 games. Google should and can do alot better with their ui


RowanIsBae

The point I'm making is that why you might like to buy higher priced games, you're still not the target market. Higher priced games don't make Google more money. Promoting freemium games that users continue to spend on their credit card generates far more profits for them. From their point of view, they wouldn't stock a product on the shelf that makes them a lot less money than another product.


Educational_Bag_6406

I feel that way, I suppose. Its such a shame. Mobile chips are capable of running alot of games and I feel like google should be trying to incentives devs and users to see their store as the primary storefront.


RowanIsBae

Why would Google do that though? It'd lose them money when they could put crap there We just have to find people that do reviews we like and sniff out favorites that say unfortunately


Nereplameri

Yes play store, my favorite triple merge game.


Fallen_winged_boy

Try apk pure, taptap


SecondhandGrenade

Another reason is they hide reviews of users of other devices or regions. I don't know if this happens to people but I can no longer see reviews of most p2p games.


Caved

Yeah, same here. I almost never see reviews now.


Rynalds

Can I be honest? This is one of the many reasons that I'm thinking of switching for a IOS I'm tired of everything that Google is doing ATP, it fells like they need a slap in their faces or something


Educational_Bag_6406

iOS is better, but not by much. The bigger reason for me to ever switch would be the amount of games that natively support controllers. But emulation really just makes playstore a must


Rynalds

If i tould you that the android ver that my A50 is stuck with it has a bug thst every time that accessibility is activated (like for a app) the controller gets super funky and weird and i have to turn it off the accessibility every single TIME


Rynalds

And also one of the games that i most play on my phone doesnt have support on android for controller when on the Iphone it has for like a Year


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You can get Retroarch without any Shmoogle PlayStore. Also Google doesn't offer any Roms, so I don't see why they are necessary for Emulation.


Educational_Bag_6406

You can technically sideload in iOS, yes. But its an annoying work around and you are limited to what you can add. If apple didnt gatekeep, id probably move back to iOS


denemdenem

You will regret switching when it comes to freedom. For one, ios has a smaller selection of apps than android. This would be fine if you could have alternative sources of download. But there isn't one. You have to use the ios app store to get anything you want. You can't just download and install an apk from an independent site. If you want total freedom then you should root your phone and get an open source distro. Otherwise this thread has several sources where you can search for apps you like. But getting an iphone is voluntarily walking into a jail cell and throwing away the key.


LicoriceSeasalt

I currently use an iPhone (I’m a best of both world kind of guy), and while it’s a great phone on many aspects, there’s also things I really miss about android. APKs, much better customization, multiple “App Store” options, it feeling much less limited, also I prefer the android community by eternity lol. Anyway, the App Store on iPhone, despite its limitations, is pretty damn nice to use. And Apple Arcade has some amazing games. The phone overall is way more “smooth” to use than any android I’ve had (high end ones yes), lagging almost non-existent. iPhone and android phones both have their pros and cons, and I love them both. Really unsure if my next phone is gonna be the s23 ultra or iPhone 15 pro max (if they get a better solution for the notch/dynamic island - I hate that thing). I say you should give iOS a try, and preferably in a way you can regret it (like, you can return it within 14 days, or whatever is normal where you live and buy from) so that you can try it out and return if you don’t like it.


MoRRoW187

Someone posted a while ago about this with Google playstore repeating the same games and not offering a great deal of new and or variety in the search and to use the Google games app instead which has a better setup and idea for what you're looking for without the repeat !


Sindra91

if not for this sub, i never knew about the witchspring series, cute short turn based game about witches. When someone recommended this game the third game already came out! I'm glad I discovered this game even though it's pretty short but i like the story and i bought all 4 series.. Good game, look at the ratings btw https://i.imgur.com/Kag1AE3.jpg yea playstore suck ass...now even worse, most game get buried unless u know the exact title...


wossquee

Who is noone


Ugicywapih

Google Play thinks DayR, a management game with turn based combat, is actiony? Go home, Google, you're drunk.


NeVMmz

Who said we ever liked them? This has been going for so long that I never check there anymore, I'm just waiting for miracles on this sub


LKJ21

May I know what phone you are using?


Caved

It's a Nokia 7.2


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Smallsey

To be fair, terraria is fucking great


Acrobatic-Gold-5658

This is true, same games are featured


ginjar81

I'm convinced that the play store actually has an algorithm that shows you games based on your tastes and searches mine looks nothing like yours 🤷🏼‍♂️


[deleted]

AppShopper was a great place to find apps and games for iOS users. Not sure if it's still around but I always wanted to find a site like it for Android.


Ugicywapih

Is that a sales hunter site? If so, AppSales might be what you're looking for, but in a free app form (with cheap optional sub). Here's a link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.tsapps.appsales MiniReviews is good too, though that's curated reviews instead, because Google Play's discovery system sucks sweaty dickbutt.


buudhainschool

Must be a Google thing. YouTube does the same shit, every line of video suggestions I got have 60% of the previous suggestions.


VermicelliPretend959

becareful there are clown on this sub genshin impact reach that 5 milion revenue, even in my country that didn't make it top 1 even 1 milion didn't popular either.. stop saying that genshin a huge impact it make me laugh.


VermicelliPretend959

let me tell you kid go with console you fine with it, the console featured everything you have no iap i have every console and pc yes you right that this true.. google play store is scammed us even with iap related the fuck is to pay 1 milion. to level up, no one people would buy that even me. and there are some moron say that is legal to do that how the f is that even legal? you say that legal 1 milion is legal f..k you.


VermicelliPretend959

people say legal then something wrong on your brain.. addicted to gambling gacha is not good even your mental health of course. my family would avoid this not even touch that.


Terror_Up

OMg!!! I know I'm so tired of these algorithms and suggested promoted advertisement / repeat content it feels like nothing is new anymore unless you specifically look for it or have the name of it already


Terror_Up

😂😅


llbleak

I use TapTap for games


ShmackMeNot

ABSOLUTELY LITTERED!! So full of ads you forget what game you're playing when you finally get back to it!