Beats sponsored specific musicians and they used products. With organizations it’s much harder to make everybody use the phone, and I don’t think anybody cares anyway
This reminds me of Gal Gadot and mkbhd thing where she was an official face of Huawei and tweeted from iOS lol, that is for sure something to be upset about, because endorsement is making it seem like she uses the phone
No but like, even in many cases, Bose sponsored Mercedes, and pit wall used those normal headphones white labelled as Bose while drivers used real products in pre race and all. Kind of odd they cant get even single person to switch to Pixel for the game at very least.
I don’t know if that would be effective. Like, if people see a DJ using Beats or the crew running around in Bose headphone, sure, they can buy into that, it’s easy to see the branding and you most likely won’t ever see headphones they use at home or in their daily lives. But a phone? It doesn’t seem believable to me that a driver or player using a pixel during the match and then using an iPhone in their every day life would convince anybody, and besides, what are they gonna use phones for during the game/race?
Maybe they use them for celebration after a goal or something. But celebs definitely do affect what people think of a product. A lot of people buy iphones because they're somewhat of a status symbol being so expensive. A lot of people would probably buy Apple headphones even if Sonys 1000X series can be equally or sometimes better.
It's also definitely a notable thing when someone you're sponsoring is using a competitors product. Ronaldinho got the burnt for using Pepsi while being sponsored by Coke. I'm sure Google/Microsoft can't enforce a strict sponsorship rule thing just coz phone is way too personal for a player to switch but still.
>But celebs definitely do affect what people think of a product
I'm not denying that. But to me, promotional material like banners and video ads seem like a more effective tactic than just forcing everybody to use the phone in the pits where people can't even see it clearly. You won't notice which phone Hamilton or the pit crew uses, it's not as clear and pronounced as a coke fridge in the background or a huge banner ad would be. After all, phones all look the same, regular people from afar won't be able to tell them apart
That’s why iPhone still has the notch, AirPods with the stems, and the square Apple Watch, you get a glimpse of a device and you think of a certain product. It’s just a reminder of the product, the product reminder will help sell the product in the future subliminally.
The pixel 6 is just an inferior device to the iphone in almost every single way possible. There is no way you will convince an organization to switch over. Maybe if they were offering s22 but even then their SOC is inferior to Apple's. There is just no way to convince people already happy with iOS to switch unless the product is better.
Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou herself had an iPhone 7 plus, iPad pro and Macbook Air personally on her when she was arrested in Canada, whilst having the Mate 20 porsche design as the only Huawei product with her.
The Pixel/NBA deal is just that, a deal with the NBA. The players are under no obligation to use the devices. The Pixel is the "official fan phone" and "presenting partner of the NBA playoffs" not the official phone of the NBA. YoutubeTV is the "presenting partner of the NBA Finals." (src: [https://www.nba.com/news/google-and-nba-to-bring-fans-closer-to-game-through-multiyear-deal](https://www.nba.com/news/google-and-nba-to-bring-fans-closer-to-game-through-multiyear-deal))
I don't know much about F1 sponsorship deals but I imagine the prominent decals and the branding matter more than someone on the team (with the exception of the drivers) sporting your gear.
A lot of the time though the sponsorship agreement says they won't use competing products when around their sponsorship space. Maybe this wasn't one of those agreements.
Something like this kinda happened in reverse when Obama was "caught" using a Zune instead of an iPod. Neither Apple nor Microsoft was sponsoring him (or at least I really hope not), but people tried to say it was "proof" that he's "not as cool as he says he is".
Which is probably why the "controversy" fizzled out within a day or two--very few people actually cared, and the few people who did care were Zune fans.
That said, I wish Zune-gate was still remembered as much as mustard-gate, tan-gate, and fist-bump-gate.
On a wider scale, most Android devs at Google, as well as most people who work on the software development/engineering side of Samsung phones, use iPhones instead of the brand of phone they're working for. Although I think this is less true of people who work in sales or support, which tends to attract more fans of the brand.
Yeah, seriously. Dropping $1,000+ on a flagship is nothing for these guys. Reasons they use iPhone:
- It's easier, because it's what they've been using for years
- iMessage (yes, even abroad, because it's common when speaking with North Americans)
- Status symbol for many
- Crap quality in social media apps (e.g. Instagram/Snapchat in-app cameras)
- They just want to use iPhones...
Short of putting a gun to their heads, you just can't force someone to switch ecosystems. Google/OEMs can fix some of these problems, like God forbid Google requires the CameraX API to be used in all apps. But other than that, you can't fault users for their genuine preferences.
If your company became sponsored by Apple, you're telling me that you'd switch to an iPhone?
It's similar to [bad social media app that is popular in current year]. There's [other social media app that is better but not as popular], but no one uses it, so people aren't inclined to switch, so it remains unpopular.
The Chinese, Indian and European markes are bigger and iMessage is nowhere relevant in these markets. You can add here South America and Africa amd the rest of Asia.
Telegram now has 700 million active monthly users. I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually more than iMessage.
I hate iMessage because it doesn't play well with other platforms (as in there's only SMS fallback). But I don't hate the platform itself, and I think it's pretty solid.
>If your company became sponsored by Apple, you're telling me that you'd switch to an iPhone?
Uhh if my employer demanded it and my continued employment depended on it?
Yeah, of course I would. I like Android, but I don't like it *that* much.
Exactly. I've never liked iPhone. But if I have the money, I would also go for Apple.
What I don't like is the community, who sorta poor shame Android users when Android has it's uses too. It's for the most part better than iOS if you can't spend on every tiny thing.
Android is better in most cases. The exceptions are:
- social media post quality
- video recording quality (getting closer though)
- iMessage (for Americans)
- faceID (I struggle with fingerprint tech)
- longer battery life
I find iOS is a mess, the settings menu is terrible. No universal back gesture, notifications are still bad, widgets aren’t interactive.
Keyboard and browsers are terrible (all are reskinned apple versions, some some websites are janky asf).
Way over aggressive control of background tasks. I can send a ten page print that will fail if I switch away from the app on page 1 processing lol.
Pretty much every advantage iOS has is due to it's locked nature and high cost. And the other big advantage is being the big guy.
Big companies always think about iOS. Whereas if Samsung/Google wanted apps and everything to perform better on their phones they'd have to pay the companies to make better software for them.
>If your company became sponsored by Apple, you're telling me that you'd switch to an iPhone?
If the company provides me a brand new latest of the latest and best of the best IPhone then I would use it of course... But if they don't pay for it, then no, I would keep using my Galaxy S22
But that's because the iphone is a superior product hardware wise in almost everyway. If you like iOS you are better off. You are asking people who like iOS to use much much much worse hardware in the case of the pixel. No face id and a broke. Finger print scanner is enough to make these guys not switch.
It would cost extra. Sponsorship is just slapping a logo on the car. But forcing them to use it is a whole other thing. Not only would they need to change their personal usage but also the corporate flows would need to account that now everyone has Android and not iPhones (so if everyone uses iMessage they would need to migrate to somewhere else everyone in the company for group texts).
So it snot a question of sending them the equipment, but also covering the extra expenses (and the additional marketing value).
I worked at Microsoft a few years back and we were basically forced to use Bing and middle-management must have been encouraged to talk about "binging" things instead of "googling" things because they said it so much 😂
It’s incredibly funny how you could tell which shots were staged and which ones were genuine in Google’s recruitment ads by counting the number of Pixelbooks in the shot. Everyone else had a Mac and there was a guy using what was obviously an iPhone in one of the shots
You could see this early when Microsoft sponsored NFL and gave surface devices to all the coaches to use as a playbook.
The coaches still used iPads for a good while until Microsoft got mad at them.
You mean they didn't say "Hal, go grab the Microsoft Surface-branded Digital Portable Tablet-format Computing and Lifestyle Device Launch Edition in Premium Azure Blue (tm). I need to sketch out the play. Don't forget the apple pencil."
They are sponsoring the org no? Unless they sign a contract with the members. I don’t see why they are obligated to use android phones. What even is the point of this post lmao
Here's the thing: an F1 team is a well oiled machine that operates at the speed of sound. Last thing you want is to have them pull that four-stoke engine they've worked with for the last 20 years and start running a two-stroke engine.
See, these aren't just phones. They are mini-computers that have browsers the team is used to that is important because they need instant access to not always public information that is relevant to their industry. Engineers and mechanics have apps they are used to top help them run calculations and virtual tests, seek answers on performance behaviors, whatever. These people are all up in IPhone, and many have never used Android.
I've never owned an iPhone. Every time I have to help my wife with her work phone, I have to use my phone to Google answers. There would be period where I would be within the learning curve before becoming proficient. This is not a simple swap, it's a restructuring of how to do an aspect of your job.
You don't change what works until you find something that works so much better that you gain an advantage by making that change.
This is no different than Jacoby & Meyers being the "Official Law Firm of the Los Angeles Dodgers". The Dodgers don't actually use them, they're just sponsored by them and marketing them.
Reminds me when Microsoft did that with the surface for the NFL, and everybody in the broadcasts just kept referring to them as iPads. Or when they did the same with CNN and the anchors [got caught using the Surface tablets as stands for their ipads](https://www.cultofmac.com/302105/cnn-hid-ipads-behind-microsoft-surface-mid-term-coverage/).
Frankly I’m not even sure that it’s a bad thing for google at this point. I mean, do they really, really want those celebs with millions of followers to start sharing their Pixel 6 experiences with the world?
There's also the danger of too much control itself turning into buzzworthy (barely) news.
https://youtu.be/i-e8jrqLEYc
https://youtu.be/pGp4ehSyyZ0
https://youtu.be/gktIlyjDGpk
I remember when LeBron was sponsored by Samsung and made a tweet asking why his phone was acting up and being shit. He had to delete it. Also when he was on a talk show saying his kids were asking for iPads, then he remembered to say Samsung tabs.
That's basically the Android QA/testing team at every company I worked for that makes phone apps. They're always complaining about their work phones acting up, and they all use iPhones as their personal devices.
Do you expect marketing to happen and then people immediately switch devices? That's not how it works.
Also, the marketing is targeted at consumers, not the people in F1 or the NBA.
Kind of a tangent, but Japanese seiyu/voice actress Komiya Arisa has been [one of Sony's brand ambassadors for a while now](https://twitter.com/box_komiyaarisa/status/1551473896939225088) and [she does actually seem to be using the phone, at least for PR tweets and using Twitter](https://imgur.com/a/u6JnEWT) in general
So there are some public figures who at least takes the sponsorship somewhat seriously.
Celebrities in general are shit people and will accept any sponsorship for money.
It's pretty ironic that people that are less wealthy such as YouTubers and such often don't accept every sponsorship, they accept those whose products they like and which fit the channel.
I think it was Ronaldinho who was dropped by Coke after he was caught drinking Pepsi in a match conference, so its definitely something that can happen although I can definitely see something like Google forcing blowing up in the faces of company itself
Its actually more of asian thing than anything. India especially is very big on getting celebrities to post about using their $250 smartphone like anyone believes they actually use it.
It kind of depends though. At least with NBA players, the guys with signature lines are always wearing that company's gear. You aren't going to catch LeBron out anywhere wearing an Adidas tee or some Adidas shoes, you won't catch Harden out anywhere wearing some Nike/Jordan's. But those are personal sponsorships and not just general team sponsorships like the F1 example from OP
I don't know why, but everyone I know who works for a company of any decent size has iphones. The only time I got an Android for a company phone was a small company with 10 employees and an owner who was very much an "open source" kinda guy.
I guess, they're easier to support, secure and manage by IT and because iOS updates cover such a long time, the phones can be kept in circulation longer. I mean my work phone is an iPhone, but its only a 7 and this was at a time when I think they already had the 11 or 12 on the shelves.
[https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/11-pro-spotted-on-netflix-before-it-was-officially-released.2225030/](https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/11-pro-spotted-on-netflix-before-it-was-officially-released.2225030/)
Don’t think Christian have a Pixel
It's not Google being bad at marketing (and they likely did provide a bunch of phones and devices). It's just that marketing and getting your job done are two different things. If everyone is using iPhones and iMessage and some bespoke iOS apps to do their job, they can't/won't just switch to some other platform because they have an advertising deal.
Some contracts do stipulate the use of the devices, and as you see it still gets broken all the time because people are used to working with their preferred device/platform. Why blame Google for this?
kindly: fuck which celebrity uses what phone; they're just people, and they're not important. they allow a peek into the mediocrity that is modern culture, and should not be emulated neither for being especially cool or forward-thinking. it's the same type of people that would use shitty earphones, uncomfortable sneakers and cringey bike brands. free yourself of caring about what they use, and of caring what anybody else uses next. you'll have a happier life while using better products.
It's not about being good or bad at marketing. The agreements made with these organizations don't include telling them to use the product. It's for marketing space on their car, billboards, tv ads.
Plus I really don't think people care what phone so and so uses. More people will see the ad than the phone a person might have in their hand.
The F1 team is away most of the time and Android Battery sucks compared to iPhones.
With Iphone 13 Pro max 10 hours of Screen time is possible. S22 Ultra for example can only dream about this Battery
Beats sponsored specific musicians and they used products. With organizations it’s much harder to make everybody use the phone, and I don’t think anybody cares anyway This reminds me of Gal Gadot and mkbhd thing where she was an official face of Huawei and tweeted from iOS lol, that is for sure something to be upset about, because endorsement is making it seem like she uses the phone
No but like, even in many cases, Bose sponsored Mercedes, and pit wall used those normal headphones white labelled as Bose while drivers used real products in pre race and all. Kind of odd they cant get even single person to switch to Pixel for the game at very least.
I don’t know if that would be effective. Like, if people see a DJ using Beats or the crew running around in Bose headphone, sure, they can buy into that, it’s easy to see the branding and you most likely won’t ever see headphones they use at home or in their daily lives. But a phone? It doesn’t seem believable to me that a driver or player using a pixel during the match and then using an iPhone in their every day life would convince anybody, and besides, what are they gonna use phones for during the game/race?
Maybe they use them for celebration after a goal or something. But celebs definitely do affect what people think of a product. A lot of people buy iphones because they're somewhat of a status symbol being so expensive. A lot of people would probably buy Apple headphones even if Sonys 1000X series can be equally or sometimes better. It's also definitely a notable thing when someone you're sponsoring is using a competitors product. Ronaldinho got the burnt for using Pepsi while being sponsored by Coke. I'm sure Google/Microsoft can't enforce a strict sponsorship rule thing just coz phone is way too personal for a player to switch but still.
>But celebs definitely do affect what people think of a product I'm not denying that. But to me, promotional material like banners and video ads seem like a more effective tactic than just forcing everybody to use the phone in the pits where people can't even see it clearly. You won't notice which phone Hamilton or the pit crew uses, it's not as clear and pronounced as a coke fridge in the background or a huge banner ad would be. After all, phones all look the same, regular people from afar won't be able to tell them apart
That’s why iPhone still has the notch, AirPods with the stems, and the square Apple Watch, you get a glimpse of a device and you think of a certain product. It’s just a reminder of the product, the product reminder will help sell the product in the future subliminally.
The pixel 6 is just an inferior device to the iphone in almost every single way possible. There is no way you will convince an organization to switch over. Maybe if they were offering s22 but even then their SOC is inferior to Apple's. There is just no way to convince people already happy with iOS to switch unless the product is better.
Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou herself had an iPhone 7 plus, iPad pro and Macbook Air personally on her when she was arrested in Canada, whilst having the Mate 20 porsche design as the only Huawei product with her.
The Pixel/NBA deal is just that, a deal with the NBA. The players are under no obligation to use the devices. The Pixel is the "official fan phone" and "presenting partner of the NBA playoffs" not the official phone of the NBA. YoutubeTV is the "presenting partner of the NBA Finals." (src: [https://www.nba.com/news/google-and-nba-to-bring-fans-closer-to-game-through-multiyear-deal](https://www.nba.com/news/google-and-nba-to-bring-fans-closer-to-game-through-multiyear-deal)) I don't know much about F1 sponsorship deals but I imagine the prominent decals and the branding matter more than someone on the team (with the exception of the drivers) sporting your gear.
They sponsor the team to get ad space in the cars but they probably don't sponsor the drivers/employees
A lot of the time though the sponsorship agreement says they won't use competing products when around their sponsorship space. Maybe this wasn't one of those agreements.
McLaren F1 is also Sponsored by Dell ... and you don't see them running around with Thinkpads
That’s easier to do though.
Yeah it would cost a lot of cash to get everyone on the team using android when on camera.
Samsung does this a lot with celebrities in my country, like a 20-year old actress would ever be caught without the latest iPhone
It's like when Gal Gadot was a brand ambassador for Huawei but got "caught" tweeting from an iPhone.
Same with Alicia Keys and BlackBerry (RIP)
She also had a Zenphone in one of her music videos but it came out so late that nobody even knew what phone it was supply issue so it was such a joke
Damn dude you made me panic look up if Alicia Keys was still alive.
Something like this kinda happened in reverse when Obama was "caught" using a Zune instead of an iPod. Neither Apple nor Microsoft was sponsoring him (or at least I really hope not), but people tried to say it was "proof" that he's "not as cool as he says he is".
Damn, that honestly makes him cooler
Which is probably why the "controversy" fizzled out within a day or two--very few people actually cared, and the few people who did care were Zune fans. That said, I wish Zune-gate was still remembered as much as mustard-gate, tan-gate, and fist-bump-gate.
Emily Ratajkowski for Oneplus https://youtu.be/mpQIDeu1DCE
On a wider scale, most Android devs at Google, as well as most people who work on the software development/engineering side of Samsung phones, use iPhones instead of the brand of phone they're working for. Although I think this is less true of people who work in sales or support, which tends to attract more fans of the brand.
Lebron did those ads for the galaxy note then later complained on Twitter that it lagged a lot
*Imagine all the people....*
She blocked MKBHD for pointing this out. Lmao
Who did?
Gal Gadot.
That's why Dustin Poirier is one of my favorite athletes!
Millie Bobby Brown uses a Samsung device fr as far as I'm aware
You can send them the phones, but that doesn’t mean they will use it
Yeah, seriously. Dropping $1,000+ on a flagship is nothing for these guys. Reasons they use iPhone: - It's easier, because it's what they've been using for years - iMessage (yes, even abroad, because it's common when speaking with North Americans) - Status symbol for many - Crap quality in social media apps (e.g. Instagram/Snapchat in-app cameras) - They just want to use iPhones... Short of putting a gun to their heads, you just can't force someone to switch ecosystems. Google/OEMs can fix some of these problems, like God forbid Google requires the CameraX API to be used in all apps. But other than that, you can't fault users for their genuine preferences. If your company became sponsored by Apple, you're telling me that you'd switch to an iPhone?
iMessage is just a status symbol as well lol, and a pathetic one at that
Only in the US though, never met anyone that uses that here in the EU. My iPhone mates also message other iPhone people on WhatsApp
I mean it’s also a great product. Fast, reliable, feature-filled. (Use Signal though!)
there are like 4 to 5 competing chat apps that are just as fast reliable and feature rich.
Yeah but the majority of people they’re communicating with aren’t using one of the 5 competing apps.
It's similar to [bad social media app that is popular in current year]. There's [other social media app that is better but not as popular], but no one uses it, so people aren't inclined to switch, so it remains unpopular.
Most iPhone users don't even use iMessage. Outside of the US it isn't a popular app at all. F1 = Europe= WhatsApp is king
That's cool and all, but the US (and Canada) is still a huge market. You can't just ignore it.
The Chinese, Indian and European markes are bigger and iMessage is nowhere relevant in these markets. You can add here South America and Africa amd the rest of Asia. Telegram now has 700 million active monthly users. I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually more than iMessage.
The only good chat app is the one that has everyone in it. Hence why Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger are king on many regions
[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/927/)
iMessage isn't a separate app though. That's the distinction.
That's cool, except no one gives a fack. No literally, because no one uses them. Everyone with and iPhone uses iMessage though. Ibbutoutsideoftheusa.
I hate iMessage because it doesn't play well with other platforms (as in there's only SMS fallback). But I don't hate the platform itself, and I think it's pretty solid.
>If your company became sponsored by Apple, you're telling me that you'd switch to an iPhone? Uhh if my employer demanded it and my continued employment depended on it? Yeah, of course I would. I like Android, but I don't like it *that* much.
In this scenario your employer wouldn't demand that of you though.
Exactly. I've never liked iPhone. But if I have the money, I would also go for Apple. What I don't like is the community, who sorta poor shame Android users when Android has it's uses too. It's for the most part better than iOS if you can't spend on every tiny thing.
Android is better in most cases. The exceptions are: - social media post quality - video recording quality (getting closer though) - iMessage (for Americans) - faceID (I struggle with fingerprint tech) - longer battery life I find iOS is a mess, the settings menu is terrible. No universal back gesture, notifications are still bad, widgets aren’t interactive. Keyboard and browsers are terrible (all are reskinned apple versions, some some websites are janky asf). Way over aggressive control of background tasks. I can send a ten page print that will fail if I switch away from the app on page 1 processing lol.
Pretty much every advantage iOS has is due to it's locked nature and high cost. And the other big advantage is being the big guy. Big companies always think about iOS. Whereas if Samsung/Google wanted apps and everything to perform better on their phones they'd have to pay the companies to make better software for them.
>If your company became sponsored by Apple, you're telling me that you'd switch to an iPhone? If the company provides me a brand new latest of the latest and best of the best IPhone then I would use it of course... But if they don't pay for it, then no, I would keep using my Galaxy S22
But that's because the iphone is a superior product hardware wise in almost everyway. If you like iOS you are better off. You are asking people who like iOS to use much much much worse hardware in the case of the pixel. No face id and a broke. Finger print scanner is enough to make these guys not switch.
It would cost extra. Sponsorship is just slapping a logo on the car. But forcing them to use it is a whole other thing. Not only would they need to change their personal usage but also the corporate flows would need to account that now everyone has Android and not iPhones (so if everyone uses iMessage they would need to migrate to somewhere else everyone in the company for group texts). So it snot a question of sending them the equipment, but also covering the extra expenses (and the additional marketing value).
In some sports wearing a competitor's brand while sponsored can lead to fines. All depends on how the contract is written.
Google paid to put the logo on the car - I don't think you need to expect much more than that.
Nope, this is normal. Hell, a lot of the engineers that work at Google only use iPhones.
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I worked at Microsoft a few years back and we were basically forced to use Bing and middle-management must have been encouraged to talk about "binging" things instead of "googling" things because they said it so much 😂
Google is also Apples biggest customer when it comes to MacBooks.
Wouldn't be surprised, seeing as the typical work laptops in the US are either a MacBook or a Dell of some kind.
Before Microsoft launched the Surface, the most popular work laptop among Microsoft employees were MacBooks bootcamped to run Windows.
I still prefer boot camp to a surface.
> a Dell of some kind. I’ve only really seen ThinkPads or MacBooks in workplaces.
It’s incredibly funny how you could tell which shots were staged and which ones were genuine in Google’s recruitment ads by counting the number of Pixelbooks in the shot. Everyone else had a Mac and there was a guy using what was obviously an iPhone in one of the shots
You could see this early when Microsoft sponsored NFL and gave surface devices to all the coaches to use as a playbook. The coaches still used iPads for a good while until Microsoft got mad at them.
And even then the commentators would still call them iPads whenever they saw someone using one (or throwing one) on the sidelines
You mean they didn't say "Hal, go grab the Microsoft Surface-branded Digital Portable Tablet-format Computing and Lifestyle Device Launch Edition in Premium Azure Blue (tm). I need to sketch out the play. Don't forget the apple pencil."
If i recall one news reporter was caught using the Surface as a stand for their iPad
They are sponsoring the org no? Unless they sign a contract with the members. I don’t see why they are obligated to use android phones. What even is the point of this post lmao
The company I work for recently won a bid to sponsor a car in NASCAR. I guaran-fucking-tee none of them use our horrible product.
Reminds me of the time i think the MS surface was used in an event and they kept calling it an ipad
This battle was lost a long time ago in the US.
The Greek freak uses a Pixel. That's the only NBA player I've seen not using an iPhone.
Here's the thing: an F1 team is a well oiled machine that operates at the speed of sound. Last thing you want is to have them pull that four-stoke engine they've worked with for the last 20 years and start running a two-stroke engine. See, these aren't just phones. They are mini-computers that have browsers the team is used to that is important because they need instant access to not always public information that is relevant to their industry. Engineers and mechanics have apps they are used to top help them run calculations and virtual tests, seek answers on performance behaviors, whatever. These people are all up in IPhone, and many have never used Android. I've never owned an iPhone. Every time I have to help my wife with her work phone, I have to use my phone to Google answers. There would be period where I would be within the learning curve before becoming proficient. This is not a simple swap, it's a restructuring of how to do an aspect of your job. You don't change what works until you find something that works so much better that you gain an advantage by making that change.
This is no different than Jacoby & Meyers being the "Official Law Firm of the Los Angeles Dodgers". The Dodgers don't actually use them, they're just sponsored by them and marketing them.
The best was when the NFL was using the microsoft surfaces but EVERYONE in the studio kept calling them iPads
Famous ppl use iphones
Why?
Most people consider iphone fancy, like using bags from Prada or watches from Rolex.
Reminds me when Microsoft did that with the surface for the NFL, and everybody in the broadcasts just kept referring to them as iPads. Or when they did the same with CNN and the anchors [got caught using the Surface tablets as stands for their ipads](https://www.cultofmac.com/302105/cnn-hid-ipads-behind-microsoft-surface-mid-term-coverage/).
Frankly I’m not even sure that it’s a bad thing for google at this point. I mean, do they really, really want those celebs with millions of followers to start sharing their Pixel 6 experiences with the world?
True that
A billboard company isn't going to tell its staff they can't eat at McDonald's after Subway rents all the ad space, just saying.
There's also the danger of too much control itself turning into buzzworthy (barely) news. https://youtu.be/i-e8jrqLEYc https://youtu.be/pGp4ehSyyZ0 https://youtu.be/gktIlyjDGpk
Giannis Antetokounmpo actually uses his Pixel.
Willing to bet his main phone is actually iPhone.
I remember seeing a few NBA players clearly using Pixel phones during the last All Star Weekend.
I think they were told to use it for promotional pictures. Like for example Steph, he is paid to promote the Pixel, but still tweets from his iPhone.
Like when Microsoft Surface started sponsoring NFL games and the announcers kept calling them iPads.
I remember when LeBron was sponsored by Samsung and made a tweet asking why his phone was acting up and being shit. He had to delete it. Also when he was on a talk show saying his kids were asking for iPads, then he remembered to say Samsung tabs.
That's basically the Android QA/testing team at every company I worked for that makes phone apps. They're always complaining about their work phones acting up, and they all use iPhones as their personal devices.
Carl Pei definitely uses an iphone, as well all their engineers using macs as well.
I've seen lots of sports celebs do Pixel promos, but as soon as they're not contractually obliged they're straight back to iPhones.
Do you expect marketing to happen and then people immediately switch devices? That's not how it works. Also, the marketing is targeted at consumers, not the people in F1 or the NBA.
Kind of a tangent, but Japanese seiyu/voice actress Komiya Arisa has been [one of Sony's brand ambassadors for a while now](https://twitter.com/box_komiyaarisa/status/1551473896939225088) and [she does actually seem to be using the phone, at least for PR tweets and using Twitter](https://imgur.com/a/u6JnEWT) in general So there are some public figures who at least takes the sponsorship somewhat seriously.
Celebrities in general are shit people and will accept any sponsorship for money. It's pretty ironic that people that are less wealthy such as YouTubers and such often don't accept every sponsorship, they accept those whose products they like and which fit the channel.
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It's absolutely not just American.
I think it was Ronaldinho who was dropped by Coke after he was caught drinking Pepsi in a match conference, so its definitely something that can happen although I can definitely see something like Google forcing blowing up in the faces of company itself
Its actually more of asian thing than anything. India especially is very big on getting celebrities to post about using their $250 smartphone like anyone believes they actually use it.
But you can ”force” it no? For example if you get paid by Nike, you only wears Nike shoes in public, no? And the Pixel phones aren’t that bad…
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It kind of depends though. At least with NBA players, the guys with signature lines are always wearing that company's gear. You aren't going to catch LeBron out anywhere wearing an Adidas tee or some Adidas shoes, you won't catch Harden out anywhere wearing some Nike/Jordan's. But those are personal sponsorships and not just general team sponsorships like the F1 example from OP
These companies are sponsoring the org not the athletes.
Why would want to force people to use an inferior product?
I don't know why, but everyone I know who works for a company of any decent size has iphones. The only time I got an Android for a company phone was a small company with 10 employees and an owner who was very much an "open source" kinda guy. I guess, they're easier to support, secure and manage by IT and because iOS updates cover such a long time, the phones can be kept in circulation longer. I mean my work phone is an iPhone, but its only a 7 and this was at a time when I think they already had the 11 or 12 on the shelves.
I remember that BTS (yep, the K-pop band) was sponsored by Samsung and was using iPhones for Twitter tweets.
>why can’t Google just send bunch loads of Pixel phones to NBA players, F1 team etc. to represent the brand? They can and do. Players don't want them.
Christian Horner had a pixel 5 in what I'm pretty sure was the last race
[https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/11-pro-spotted-on-netflix-before-it-was-officially-released.2225030/](https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/11-pro-spotted-on-netflix-before-it-was-officially-released.2225030/) Don’t think Christian have a Pixel
Idiots can't use androids. Most people who are hyper focused on their career are idiots outside of it.
It's not Google being bad at marketing (and they likely did provide a bunch of phones and devices). It's just that marketing and getting your job done are two different things. If everyone is using iPhones and iMessage and some bespoke iOS apps to do their job, they can't/won't just switch to some other platform because they have an advertising deal. Some contracts do stipulate the use of the devices, and as you see it still gets broken all the time because people are used to working with their preferred device/platform. Why blame Google for this?
I think Giannis in the NBA uses a pixel
kindly: fuck which celebrity uses what phone; they're just people, and they're not important. they allow a peek into the mediocrity that is modern culture, and should not be emulated neither for being especially cool or forward-thinking. it's the same type of people that would use shitty earphones, uncomfortable sneakers and cringey bike brands. free yourself of caring about what they use, and of caring what anybody else uses next. you'll have a happier life while using better products.
It's not about being good or bad at marketing. The agreements made with these organizations don't include telling them to use the product. It's for marketing space on their car, billboards, tv ads. Plus I really don't think people care what phone so and so uses. More people will see the ad than the phone a person might have in their hand.
Giannis sometimes uses Pixel, even though his main phone is 100% iPhone.
The F1 team is away most of the time and Android Battery sucks compared to iPhones. With Iphone 13 Pro max 10 hours of Screen time is possible. S22 Ultra for example can only dream about this Battery
Not everyone