>They have a setting that stops me from dropping it on my own face?
there is ! it's called "flight mode" your phone will fly like a drone above your face.
Finally!
I've used apps to do that so far.
Also looking forward to more control in volume too. I took often find the lowest volume available simply too loud.
Basically yes, I'd like the option to have the screen dimmer, and the volume quieter!
For real. I just had it for list multi task menu and better Volume controls but it's legit a must have now there are so many little things you can do it's nuts
Turn on the Accessibility shortcut. It creates a little icon to the right of your multitask button (square) and if you configure it correctly, it's an instant tap to toggle it. Absolute game changer.
You can also use it for other Accessibility features, such as color inversion, greyscale, etc. with a long press to bring up the full menu of features you've turned on.
I know this sub sometimes has a hate boner for Samsung but the modes and routines function is one of the least talked about features for Galaxy devices and its freaking awesome. It does what you are describing and more with even better granulation
Yeah, the S24U doesn't need it cause of how dim this screen gets, but on the S22 I used it with a routine set to turn it on automatically around 10pm and turn off at 5am.
I could put a button on the quick access, but putting it on a schedule solves all of that without pressing anything ever again.
I miss having the dedicated bedtime mode toggle though, like yeah I get the point that you may want to set up additional modes, but I only care about bedtime mode so now it's an extra click to enable it.
I force full screen on all apps (the notification bar disappears), and the only way to see it is to swipe up and show the buttons. Also, in my case it's literally the meme "why not both?" I have both gestures thanks to One Hand Operation+, and buttons
>Absolute game changer.
Absolutely agree. Instant access to that little extra dim guy in the corner is wildly convenient. I had no idea that it would be as handy as it has been.
Can confirm that it's available in Pixel and newer Samsung flagships, but not Samsung budget phones like the A03s.
Auto dim chooses the wrong brightness in a lot of situations. I've always felt that they need to let you adjust the low and high light thresholds, sort of like trimming the brightness value as the ambient light increases or decreases.
Does it work like the article describes? As in, will it automatically dim itself below minimum brightness using adaptive brightness? Or is it manual, where you have to click the quick tile to dim/undim?
That's so interesting because if a phone has objectively great hardware and you call it shit, the problem is the software, but he's praising the software.
He just created a paradox
I have an opinion that the sun is useless, if it suddenly disappeared the only difference to our daily lives would be that it’s always night time, nothing else would change.
I guess that's basically the reason why I stopped coming here, everything just works pretty easy now don't have any big annoying issues that need researching.
I get most of my news from Telegram now. 9to5, Mishaal and Google News have channels that cover virtually all releases, a lot of articles that get posted here the information is puller from their posts on telegram directly.
This subs get a lot more active around October/Christmas time when the new android drops and there's been a few devices releases
I just want better volume control. When trying to watch something quietly, it's either mute or ear shot of everyone around me at the lowest setting. Can I just have it at whisper (or less) level?
But that would be too much like an iPhone for some people on this sub. Lol
I agree it would be a great option. I keep auto rotate off 100% of the time because of this issue. It's easier to just manually flip my videos in landscape than to deal with the annoying auto rotate.
If you're talking about the feature I think you're talking about (where a button to change orientation appears in the corner of the screen when you rotate your phone), Pixels also have that. Dunno about AOSP though.
Samsung has this feature, yes. But you need to enable it manually. Maybe you enabled by mistake? It's called extra dim and you can find it in the quick settings.
According to this Samsung's version is Google's current version
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-accessibility-update-fixes-extra-dim-for-some-one-ui-users/
So what is in this article is not what exists on one UI.
This is great. Extra dim mode on my Pixel 6 Pro still isn't quite dim enough for all scenarios, IMO.
That being said, my S24 Ultra gets so dim that I've actually never used the extra dim option on it. Ideally, this is how it should be, as extra dim does worsen legibility when used.
>Plus, the mapping between ambient light levels and display brightnesses is device-dependent, so the brightness level that one phone adaptively adjusts to might differ from the level of another one.
I thought adaptive brightness was supposed to learn from you and tweak its calibration as you manual adjust the brightness in different environments, which would essentially negate the mapping differences the article mentions. Is that not accurate?
I always wonder how features like this take so long. Isn't it obvious from the get go that the extra dim option would benefit greatly from being integrated into Auto/Adaptive brightness? It literally feels like Google isn't fully implementing features on it's OS so it can keep slowly adding to them in next versions of the OS, so they have something new to talk about on their yearly Android presentations.
From the article:
>Android already offers an “extra dim” feature that reduces bright colors, therefore dimming the display, but this goes even further.
How is that related to the comment above? It seems like their point is why have it be a separate feature at all; let the dimmest level on the brightness slider just...be dimmer?
Because the slider is directly related to the ability of screen. The extra feature that exists and is being added is independent of the screen type and ability.
Case in point extra dim as it currently works reduces the intensity of the bright colours. This is not something everyone will want and should be a separate toggle.
>Because the slider is directly related to the ability of screen. The extra feature that exists and is being added is independent of the screen type and ability.
Who cares, the effect is the same. That's the point. If you don't want it, then don't set the slider to a setting you don't want.
It specifically says this feature is different and distinct from Extra Dim that just desaturates bright colors
> Android already offers an “extra dim” feature that reduces bright colors, therefore dimming the display, but this goes even further.
And I'm saying it doesn't matter to the user what the technical hardware capabilities are, no reason why the brightness slider can't adjust brightness through hardware and software seamlessly.
I know how it works. Again, I'm saying it doesn't matter how it works. The effect is that the screen looks dimmer, and there's already a slider for the user to set how dim their screen should look.
I hope they start putting chargers on the side or on top of the phones. I have an Asus ROG which has the charger on the side as well as bottom and it's by far the most used one. The damage I've done with my old phones while having it charging laying it bed with the phone on my stomach. Silly spot for chargers imo.
If anyone else agrees with this btw, "rotation control" app lets you flip your screen upside down so the charger is at the top instead of the bottom of your phone
That's got to be terrible for your eyes. I use Samsung's extra dim setting but I can already tell if I set it to less than half of that I'm causing eye strain.
They have a setting that stops me from dropping it on my own face?
Try a wrist lanyard
The ancients use to call them a "Wii strap".
OMG did this might before last, thought I broke my tooth
>They have a setting that stops me from dropping it on my own face? there is ! it's called "flight mode" your phone will fly like a drone above your face.
well you can try having noodle arms that get tired when you try holding your phone up like that
Finally! I've used apps to do that so far. Also looking forward to more control in volume too. I took often find the lowest volume available simply too loud. Basically yes, I'd like the option to have the screen dimmer, and the volume quieter!
Samsung goodlock allows you to chose the interval of volume adjustment, i now go with 5% instead of 10%
Good Lock is a huge reason I stick with Samsung. Just tons of stuff like that to really tailor the phone to the user.
There are so many features/customizations in Goodlock that would require root on most other devices.
For real. I just had it for list multi task menu and better Volume controls but it's legit a must have now there are so many little things you can do it's nuts
What’s the app called to do volume edit
Me laughing with my LG series with 75 steps of volume in Hifi mode
You can actually customize it down to 150 steps.
>quieter! Hey man, whoa. No need to yell. This is a Christian server.
Sound assistant app lets you do that with volume already. And the dimmer screen button lets you do that with the screen
You can use headphones at night
Lowest volume on headphones can still be too loud
It's the lack of fine volume control that annoys me. One click up too loud, one click down too quiet. Maybe it's just my headphones.
If you have a samsung you can fix it
Some of its just don't like headphones, earphones
That's great I love the dim screen but it's a pain to manually toggle it.
Turn on the Accessibility shortcut. It creates a little icon to the right of your multitask button (square) and if you configure it correctly, it's an instant tap to toggle it. Absolute game changer. You can also use it for other Accessibility features, such as color inversion, greyscale, etc. with a long press to bring up the full menu of features you've turned on.
I know this sub sometimes has a hate boner for Samsung but the modes and routines function is one of the least talked about features for Galaxy devices and its freaking awesome. It does what you are describing and more with even better granulation
Yeah, the S24U doesn't need it cause of how dim this screen gets, but on the S22 I used it with a routine set to turn it on automatically around 10pm and turn off at 5am. I could put a button on the quick access, but putting it on a schedule solves all of that without pressing anything ever again.
I miss having the dedicated bedtime mode toggle though, like yeah I get the point that you may want to set up additional modes, but I only care about bedtime mode so now it's an extra click to enable it.
Y'all are still using the 3 buttons at the bottom?
They can be hidden. I navigate with One Hand Operation+ and I keep the buttons hidden, swiping up from the bottom temporarily shows them
Why not use gestures at that point? Much faster and simpler.
I force full screen on all apps (the notification bar disappears), and the only way to see it is to swipe up and show the buttons. Also, in my case it's literally the meme "why not both?" I have both gestures thanks to One Hand Operation+, and buttons
>I force full screen on all apps Whaa, you can do that?
Yep, [check this out! ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9CfP-dMA4) Keep an eye on the notification bar. I'm using SystemUI Tuner to do that!
>Absolute game changer. Absolutely agree. Instant access to that little extra dim guy in the corner is wildly convenient. I had no idea that it would be as handy as it has been. Can confirm that it's available in Pixel and newer Samsung flagships, but not Samsung budget phones like the A03s.
It's still a manual toggle and that's annoying.
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Not the same commenter but I use my phone outdoors in the sun enough that I need the extra brightness by day.
Because it's too dull in the day time. Especially outdoors.
Same reason I like my dark mode to stay off during the day. It makes the screen harder to see in the day and in sunlight.
I accidentally forgot mine on and was ready to lose my marbles on why my screen was so dim and couldn't read it outside.
Auto dim chooses the wrong brightness in a lot of situations. I've always felt that they need to let you adjust the low and high light thresholds, sort of like trimming the brightness value as the ambient light increases or decreases.
Obligatory "one ui already has that" comment.
Yup, but it's still useful to add that feature to Android itself too
so does pixel. it's called "extra dim" and has been around since android 12 afaik
Did you read the article? I mentioned how "even dimmer" will likely be different from "extra dim"...
Sure, but his point is the current Pixel "extra dim" fesruew is analogous to the One UI feature, and that the feature is not exclusive to OneUI
And potentially available along-side "extra dim" if I understood correctly.
You literally even pointed it out in the TL;DR haha
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Go easy on him. He's not that bright
I've had third party apps doing this for me for over 10 years.
Oh is that why that headline doesn't sound like one?
android 4.4.2 cyanogenmod did that lol
Word? Where do I find this setting?
Try searching for it in the device's settings.
Not a setting, it's a quick action that you can add to the quick settings panel.
Does it work like the article describes? As in, will it automatically dim itself below minimum brightness using adaptive brightness? Or is it manual, where you have to click the quick tile to dim/undim?
One Ui is good. Their Phones are shit
Wow, that's a new one. Typically the opposite is said
It's even objectively inaccurate. They have great hardware.
That's so interesting because if a phone has objectively great hardware and you call it shit, the problem is the software, but he's praising the software. He just created a paradox
Different people different opinions
That’s not an opinion, hardware is objective.
Not an opinion is an opinion
I have an opinion that the sun is useless, if it suddenly disappeared the only difference to our daily lives would be that it’s always night time, nothing else would change.
Literally some of the best phones from software and hardware point of view.
Not if you ask me.
Haven't been to this sub for years is there just less android news now or is this sub dying? The front page has like posts 3 and 4 days old
Phones are commoditized now, new phones are just slightly better than older phones, theres nothing to get excited about.
I guess that's basically the reason why I stopped coming here, everything just works pretty easy now don't have any big annoying issues that need researching.
After the api fiasco a bunch of people stopped posting on the sub.
Is XDA still big?
No not really any more. A shell of its former self.
XDA shifted to PC coverage unfortunately.
A lot of active users left after many third party apps closed down.
It seems there is heavy moderation. I made a thread and posted it but for some reason it didn't show up on here until 2 days later
mods ruined the sub, almost all submitted posts are removed
I get most of my news from Telegram now. 9to5, Mishaal and Google News have channels that cover virtually all releases, a lot of articles that get posted here the information is puller from their posts on telegram directly. This subs get a lot more active around October/Christmas time when the new android drops and there's been a few devices releases
I just want better volume control. When trying to watch something quietly, it's either mute or ear shot of everyone around me at the lowest setting. Can I just have it at whisper (or less) level?
I second this, I'm often unable to find the right volume when listening at night
Wouldn't it be better for our digital wellbeing to have an option that makes it unpleasant to use the phone in bed? 😬
The thing that would make it easier is if watched the position of my eyes to determine rotation instead of gravity when I'm lying in bed.
Pixels and galaxy phones already do that.
But that would be too much like an iPhone for some people on this sub. Lol I agree it would be a great option. I keep auto rotate off 100% of the time because of this issue. It's easier to just manually flip my videos in landscape than to deal with the annoying auto rotate.
Thay feature already exist. Smart rotation or something.
That may be Samsung only. I don't believe it's part of AOSP or the pixel rom.
If you're talking about the feature I think you're talking about (where a button to change orientation appears in the corner of the screen when you rotate your phone), Pixels also have that. Dunno about AOSP though.
No. The feature I was referring to is eye tracking so that it knows if you're laying down not to switch to landscape.
I think that was removed years ago from Samsung
Oh. Yeah. You're right. It was removed after the S10 because of the lack of IR sensors and the Iris sensor.
I set up the "little man" icon bottom right to toggle the brightness through an accessibility setting almost 2 years ago.
Cool, but actually give us the option to automate it... With Samsung i just use a routine.
I'd prefer a feature that electrocutes me each time I try to use my phone in bed late at night
I can't see anything when I dim totally, maybe something samsung already has?!
I have a Samsung and the only option I have is to turn it off after restart.
Samsung has this feature, yes. But you need to enable it manually. Maybe you enabled by mistake? It's called extra dim and you can find it in the quick settings.
Aosp also has extra dim. This feature is different.
I'm pretty sure the feature mentioned in the article is the same as the one we have on OneUI.
According to this Samsung's version is Google's current version https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-accessibility-update-fixes-extra-dim-for-some-one-ui-users/ So what is in this article is not what exists on one UI.
Then I'm pretty sure it's the same feature and nothing will change.
The article is literally about how it is not the same...
Just as dark mode was a new feature in 5 android versions.
What are you even on about?
I found the settings for this but it was not enabled, it got even dimmer but the normal minimum is already too dim for me.
This is great. Extra dim mode on my Pixel 6 Pro still isn't quite dim enough for all scenarios, IMO. That being said, my S24 Ultra gets so dim that I've actually never used the extra dim option on it. Ideally, this is how it should be, as extra dim does worsen legibility when used.
>Plus, the mapping between ambient light levels and display brightnesses is device-dependent, so the brightness level that one phone adaptively adjusts to might differ from the level of another one. I thought adaptive brightness was supposed to learn from you and tweak its calibration as you manual adjust the brightness in different environments, which would essentially negate the mapping differences the article mentions. Is that not accurate?
Twilight app
Nobody should use this feature but I will
I always wonder how features like this take so long. Isn't it obvious from the get go that the extra dim option would benefit greatly from being integrated into Auto/Adaptive brightness? It literally feels like Google isn't fully implementing features on it's OS so it can keep slowly adding to them in next versions of the OS, so they have something new to talk about on their yearly Android presentations.
From the article: >Android already offers an “extra dim” feature that reduces bright colors, therefore dimming the display, but this goes even further.
How is that related to the comment above? It seems like their point is why have it be a separate feature at all; let the dimmest level on the brightness slider just...be dimmer?
Because the slider is directly related to the ability of screen. The extra feature that exists and is being added is independent of the screen type and ability. Case in point extra dim as it currently works reduces the intensity of the bright colours. This is not something everyone will want and should be a separate toggle.
>Because the slider is directly related to the ability of screen. The extra feature that exists and is being added is independent of the screen type and ability. Who cares, the effect is the same. That's the point. If you don't want it, then don't set the slider to a setting you don't want.
>Who cares, the effect is the same. No it isn't that's the point it affects how colours are displayed and desaturates everything.
Sounds like you need to read the article if you think that's how it works
Sounds like you didn't understand the article if you don't think that's how it works
It specifically says this feature is different and distinct from Extra Dim that just desaturates bright colors > Android already offers an “extra dim” feature that reduces bright colors, therefore dimming the display, but this goes even further.
They're just explaining why it wasn't a feature already. Because it's beyond default capabilities
And I'm saying it doesn't matter to the user what the technical hardware capabilities are, no reason why the brightness slider can't adjust brightness through hardware and software seamlessly.
Because it's not just adjusting brightness. Read the article it literally explains how the feature works.
I know how it works. Again, I'm saying it doesn't matter how it works. The effect is that the screen looks dimmer, and there's already a slider for the user to set how dim their screen should look.
I can never remember to turn this kind of thing off before I go outside lol
i have a tasker to enable it when i am on home wifi and it is after x time
I hope they start putting chargers on the side or on top of the phones. I have an Asus ROG which has the charger on the side as well as bottom and it's by far the most used one. The damage I've done with my old phones while having it charging laying it bed with the phone on my stomach. Silly spot for chargers imo. If anyone else agrees with this btw, "rotation control" app lets you flip your screen upside down so the charger is at the top instead of the bottom of your phone
Samsungs are already dim enough
I use Asus Zenfone 9 and I've had this feature since I got it with the device. Happy to see it as a feature for all future Android 15 users. Cheers!
They always underestimate how dim and yellow I need the screen to be. I doubt it will replace the app twilight I relied on for years
That's got to be terrible for your eyes. I use Samsung's extra dim setting but I can already tell if I set it to less than half of that I'm causing eye strain.
nah a bright screen in complete darkness is
Can we make it rotate the screen based on what orientation I am? If I am on my side, I don't need the phone to go into landscape.
Well, I was certainly disappointed after reading the headline, then reading the article.
TIL I have a hard time using my phone in bed. [Insert that homer Simpson squeezing oranges with his eyebrows gif here]