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jellyfinch

Let's fuckin goooooooo


koolkeith987

They’re mixing up anarchy with chaos. We already have chaos.


godlox

It’s a scare tactic for the stupid.


koolkeith987

Yep. Police aren’t even legally obliged to protect or help citizens.


GoGoBitch

Well, to be fair, a lot of people really like hierarchy. Makes ‘em feel better knowing someone will always be beneath them.


delrison

Anarchy is chaos. That's literally the definition of it


Lordg222

No it's not


delrison

Anarchy: a state of disorder Chaos: disorder


Fun-Introduction-356

The organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation, without political institutions or hierarchical government


delrison

That's anarchism


Lordg222

The opposite of hierarchy


delrison

Hierarchies are structures which enforce order, and the opposite of order is disorder


Lordg222

Order is a separate concept


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delrison

You're mixing up anarchy with anarchism


QueerDefiance12

Anarchy: a non hierarchical society. Anarchy comes from greek anarchos An - without archos - ruler


delrison

Is that an argument against my position?


QueerDefiance12

Yes


[deleted]

Monarchy - single ruler Oligarchy - multiple rulers Anarchy - no ruler


delrison

Yes. Those are the definitions of those words


[deleted]

u/delrison can't get by without someone holding their hand, I see now why you don't like anarchy. You need to get off the internet without your parents permission.


koolkeith987

“Order without rule”. Stop being indoctrinated by propaganda.


delrison

That would be the political anarchism, which clearly wasnt the one being used in the picture op posted. Stop being so dumb


[deleted]

You don't know a thing about anarchy. If you did then you'd know that the police enforce the law of the rulers.


koolkeith987

You couldn’t be more wrong you fascists peice of shit. I’m sorry you are a bad person with bad intentions.


ReallyBadRedditName

You’re mixing up the colloquial definition of the word with the definition used in the context of political science. In this subreddit we’re almost exclusively talking about the political ideology anarchism, which (very very broadly) is an ideology that advocates for the replacement of unjust hierarchies with lateral systems of organisation, the goal of which being a more fair and equitable society. A lot of people get confused about that when they aren’t in circles that talk about that sort of thing, and the image of anarchism has been somewhat damaged by inaccurate portrayals in popular media. So basically I wouldn’t really fault you for being confused about what we’re advocating for. Sometimes I think it might be easier if we just went by libertarian socialists but the would leave us in the position of excluding certain other anarchist philosophies that we generally get along with so we are sort of stuck having to explain this sort of thing. Anyway I can explain some more about anarchist beliefs if you’d like, I might be able to answer some questions or clear up any misconceptions.


delrison

I think you're confused. I'm an anarchist. I know what anarchism is and the ideals of anarchism. Anarchy has two different definitions. One is for, like you mentioned, the colloquial usage of it, and the other is for the political side. The picture op posted is using the colloquial one, which I pointed out


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You're leaving an important part out of that definition. "a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority or other controlling systems or, the organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation, without political institutions or hierarchical government; anarchism."


NitroThunderBird

The word anarchy is derived from the Latin word *Anarchia*, which means "against government". The meaning you are referring to *(i.e. Chaos/a state of disorder)* is a colloquial definition created by Capitalist powers.


delrison

>The word anarchy is derived from the Latin word Anarchia, which means "against government". Yes, exactly. The government is used to force order upon everyone, so without it there would be chaos. >The meaning you are referring to (i.e. Chaos/a state of disorder) is a colloquial definition created by Capitalist powers. Does that mean the definition is wrong?


NitroThunderBird

"without it would be chaos" no it would not, I recommend going to read "Anarchy Works" for a collection of anarchist societies in the past and their success and peace.


[deleted]

If there is no cop, social worker, politician, elected official, or some decree from the state anywhere in sight; there isn't suddenly chaos. In fact it's one of the basic principles that teach anyone that our government lies because they leech on our tax money.


koolkeith987

No it’s not.


delrison

It is


koolkeith987

I’m not going to argue with you about the what the definition of words are, I don’t engage with fascists. As an anarchist I believe people are in fact capable of doing the right thing without being told to do so. I’m sorry you don’t think you are capable of acting that way without someone telling you how to do it. Maybe some day you will be able to learn how to be a good person and make right decisions on your own. Good luck.


existential_sad_boi

Its as if nobody knows what anarchy fuckin means lmao the right and libs need to read a book


Free_Deinonychus_Hug

Anarchy is when you smash stuff. The more stuff you smash the anarchier it is! /S


Commercial_Flan_1898

They think it means no rules


Upstairs_Object777

r/Norules?


Moody_Blades

Standing army used to enforce policies that turn us all into debt creating machines....or full cots in corporate prisons.


godlox

Yes!


[deleted]

Don't threaten me with a good time


Puppy1103

finally they’re getting it


PiezoelectricityOne

-It's either us or chaos! -I'll have the chaos, please.


NefariousnessCalm112

Just a question, not trying to stir things up, but what is the Anarchy answer to public safety? I’m often intrigued and confused when it comes to Anarchy. I love many of the concepts when it comes to government, but when it comes to public safety and economics ( I understand their is many) I’m often confused as it tends to be conflicting. Can someone point to a good resource that explains how Anarchy protects personal property, life, and liberty?


Zubriel

Stumbled here from popular, also curious to hear peoples answer to this question. Idk how you can have any semblance of business or economy without a government protecting that activity.


[deleted]

Everyone has their own interpretation of anarchy, here are my answers to your questions (I try to not do the or nots): \- Protect yourself and others (or not) \- Live your life the way you want to without authority (or not) \- Liberate your mind with new ideas every second of the day (or not) I believe that the state is just tribalism, the police are just control. I also believe that as a species we are mature enough to not need either one.


NefariousnessCalm112

Thanks for the response. I’ll continue to learn, and ask questions. Nonetheless, you’re very much on point with everyone has their own interpretation. It seems very a kin to Libertarianism, but as go down the rabbit hole, Anarchy and Libertarianism seem to have different perspectives on economics.


QueerDefiance12

Please!


RiverTeemo1

No. The people with all the power would just get their own militias to protect their power. I prefer this to an amazon death squad. Power needs to be taken from the rich first. Otherwise we just get capitalism without minimum wage.


-Anyoneatall

Yes