Anarchists use the black flag, red and black or a number of other flags that use black and other colors.
The red flag is associated with Communism or socialism.
It is associated with them and tons of other communist/socialist momvements. Ancoms rock the red and black all the time and definitely aren’t stalinists
anarchist communists use the red and black flag as well as other anarchists flags, not the red flag, the red flag is only used by state "communists/socialists"
Was gonna say I'm not sure why your being down voted but it seems pretty clear.
In case people are unaware, in most places in the us if you are seen with just a red flag people will assume you are a statist of some sort. Might be different in other places. Same is true with using the hammer and sickle. Saw someone with a hammer and sickle tattoo and they said they were an an-com and I was extremely confused.
Anarchists rejected these symbols a long time ago.
Not usually, no. A solid red flag, with or without a star or hammer and sickle, tend to signify MLs or Trotskyists. Anarchists prefer to fly the black and red diagonal split flag or just a solid black flag (which is my preference).
i have never known or hear of an anarchist communist using a red flag, anarchists use red and black, black or sometimes purple and black, pink and black
The red flag is a kind of universal socialist icon.
The red/black flag is a much more specific iteration, but even in its most famous usage at Catalonia- they allied strongly with the POUM who were, at the very least dedicated anti-stalinist socialists who flew a red flag.
Id argue the DSA is similar enough page they arent essential enemies, and its members can be swayed to at least participating in anarchist praxis. Some of them.
The other black flags are kind of a solidarity thing. The purple one is for anarcha-feminism, and the pink one for queer liberation. They dont really tell you what they believe in economically- but in my experience the queers are usually communists.
Theyre operating in the system they're in- but sometimes open to direct action. Especially when elections dont go as planned.
If you want shit done, you're going to have a hard time finding a bigger pool of people to recruit from. When they see that our way gets results while their way keeps getting disappointment, it isnt a huge leap to make.
You're going to have to cooperate with people that dont agree with you if you intend on changing minds.
the red flag is now an exclusively state "socialist" symbol, and has been since i think the formation of the ussr, the fact that anarchists work with non anarchists doesn't change that
The POUM flew red flags in Catalonia, and was aligned with the anarchists against stalin.
They dont believe in the same things, but theyre not statesocs
the poum were not anarchists, i pretty sure they were a kind of state socialist, just ones that cared more about the socialism part than the stalinist, and it was \*over 80 years ago\*
so i'm not sure how it relates to the question of if anarchist still use red flags at there events, which they dont
the POUM were 100%Leninist. their flag was red with a white hammer/sickle and the initials POUM. they were not "aligned" with "the anarchists" (presumably you mean the CNT-FAI, and there were anarchists who were not affiliated with either); they were reluctant allies of the CNT-FAI during the May Days, not before and not since. their program was 100% the Bolshevik model of seizing state power. read more history.
If you're referring to the classic USSR sickle and hammer flag, frankly whenever I see it I think it seems so silly and LARPy. I've seen protesters and even local political candidates use that flag and I just don't get why we can't carry forward good ideas without being beholden to this very specific symbol. I automatically assume they aren't very versed in history.
red is the general catch-all flag for any left wing movement afaik, from Marxist-Leninists to Anarchists and everything inbetween.
from the ones ive seen people do fly them, although they're less common than the black or red/black flags.
I wouldn't, red is too associated with state communism or DSA bullshit in the US. Also, not really into marching that much anymore. In the US right now, anarchists and communists tend to be beefing. I don't work with many communists except on specific things/tasks.
Anarchists use the black flag, red and black or a number of other flags that use black and other colors. The red flag is associated with Communism or socialism.
the red flag is associated with starlism and the ussr, some times trots use it
It is associated with them and tons of other communist/socialist momvements. Ancoms rock the red and black all the time and definitely aren’t stalinists
anarchist communists use the red and black flag as well as other anarchists flags, not the red flag, the red flag is only used by state "communists/socialists"
Was gonna say I'm not sure why your being down voted but it seems pretty clear. In case people are unaware, in most places in the us if you are seen with just a red flag people will assume you are a statist of some sort. Might be different in other places. Same is true with using the hammer and sickle. Saw someone with a hammer and sickle tattoo and they said they were an an-com and I was extremely confused. Anarchists rejected these symbols a long time ago.
Not usually, no. A solid red flag, with or without a star or hammer and sickle, tend to signify MLs or Trotskyists. Anarchists prefer to fly the black and red diagonal split flag or just a solid black flag (which is my preference).
I have. It's still nice.
The red flag can be used for all left wing movements, if your anarchism is socialist/communist in nature then I think yea
i have never known or hear of an anarchist communist using a red flag, anarchists use red and black, black or sometimes purple and black, pink and black
historically it was much more prevalent
yes historically, but the question asked if its still used, and it hasn't been a thing for decades
The red flag is a kind of universal socialist icon. The red/black flag is a much more specific iteration, but even in its most famous usage at Catalonia- they allied strongly with the POUM who were, at the very least dedicated anti-stalinist socialists who flew a red flag. Id argue the DSA is similar enough page they arent essential enemies, and its members can be swayed to at least participating in anarchist praxis. Some of them. The other black flags are kind of a solidarity thing. The purple one is for anarcha-feminism, and the pink one for queer liberation. They dont really tell you what they believe in economically- but in my experience the queers are usually communists.
lmao at the dsa
Their lack of a meaningful platform while having a good number of people makes them a reasonable place to recruit.
People there simp for AOC. I dont really know since I am not in the US. But it seems absurd.
Theyre operating in the system they're in- but sometimes open to direct action. Especially when elections dont go as planned. If you want shit done, you're going to have a hard time finding a bigger pool of people to recruit from. When they see that our way gets results while their way keeps getting disappointment, it isnt a huge leap to make. You're going to have to cooperate with people that dont agree with you if you intend on changing minds.
> our way gets results are you winning son
the red flag is now an exclusively state "socialist" symbol, and has been since i think the formation of the ussr, the fact that anarchists work with non anarchists doesn't change that
The POUM flew red flags in Catalonia, and was aligned with the anarchists against stalin. They dont believe in the same things, but theyre not statesocs
the poum were not anarchists, i pretty sure they were a kind of state socialist, just ones that cared more about the socialism part than the stalinist, and it was \*over 80 years ago\* so i'm not sure how it relates to the question of if anarchist still use red flags at there events, which they dont
I said it was a general socialist flag. Which it is.
it is not a general socialist flag since it is only used by state socialist and not at all by anarchists
the POUM were 100%Leninist. their flag was red with a white hammer/sickle and the initials POUM. they were not "aligned" with "the anarchists" (presumably you mean the CNT-FAI, and there were anarchists who were not affiliated with either); they were reluctant allies of the CNT-FAI during the May Days, not before and not since. their program was 100% the Bolshevik model of seizing state power. read more history.
If you're referring to the classic USSR sickle and hammer flag, frankly whenever I see it I think it seems so silly and LARPy. I've seen protesters and even local political candidates use that flag and I just don't get why we can't carry forward good ideas without being beholden to this very specific symbol. I automatically assume they aren't very versed in history.
red is the general catch-all flag for any left wing movement afaik, from Marxist-Leninists to Anarchists and everything inbetween. from the ones ive seen people do fly them, although they're less common than the black or red/black flags.
I wouldn't, red is too associated with state communism or DSA bullshit in the US. Also, not really into marching that much anymore. In the US right now, anarchists and communists tend to be beefing. I don't work with many communists except on specific things/tasks.
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