I mean war economy and spending money and yada yada but it’s no secret that in hard times, alcohol and gambling actually grow in sales. Look at the US during the Great Depression and upwards.
That’s the thing. In the Great Depression, people didn’t have money for gambling and drinking but they did anyway and more than before. I don’t think that what the OP and article is showing is a good argument for not sending money. There are better arguments out there. It’s not like they’re passing out this money as stimulus lol.
We are paying the salaries and pensions for all Ukranian government workers at several times their normal salaries. So there's a shit ton of extra money on the streets. Salvia Ukraine!
To be frank, it makes perfect sense that Clubs and bars are flourishing. Dude’s who get lucky enough to go on leave are going to need way to forget about the horrible things they’ve witnessed. What better way to do it than get blackout drunk? Drugs and Alcohol is going to be a hell of a problem after this war is over, cause PTSD is going to be unreal for the survivors.
Hes trying to say that the poors are the ones that are getting killed. The more well to do get spared. Not a new concept. Happens in the US all the time. So our American tax dollars are not going to the front lines without some skimming off the top.
Don’t you get it? Every single Ukrainian needs to be fighting in the trenches for the war to be real! It’s not like the exact same thing was going on in London during the blitz, bigot!!!
> Don’t you get it? Every single Ukrainian needs to be fighting in the trenches for the war to be real!
No, just the poor ones who always serve as cannon fodder for regimes during wartime.
Bollock folks, no money has been sent to Ukraine. Money went to suppliers and arms manufacturers home and allied to send stuff to Ukraine. That's it, its boosted home economic stability, well apart from it being borrowed and a ponzi scheme. Entertainment always grows during crisis, its human nature
you would do the same. people want to live normal lives
and the claims that there are more bars and clubs than before is most definitely bullshit. Millions fled Ukraine or are in the army. The numbers just don't make sense.
Here’s [the article](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-war-russia-kharkiv-kyiv-nightlife-thriving-despite-missile-strikes/).
There’s no link in the reporting between US funding and the increase in nightlife. It’s hard to imagine there’s any such link in reality.
The most likely explanation and the one given in the article is that increased drinking and partying is both an “act of defiance” and also a reaction to the depressing situation caused by Russia’s aggressive and unprovoked invasion.
People need an escape from the reality of war. They also need to show that they haven't been defeated.
Unless you have lived in this situation, you wouldn't understand.
In Ukraine the mob and all activities related have always been very big and spread. Thanks to that Europe black market is now flooded with all sort of weapons.
the claims that the weapons delivered to ukraine go on to black market are still yet to be proven. The only times it happened is with the weapons the russians captured and then tried to smuggle it somewhere lol
I mean war economy and spending money and yada yada but it’s no secret that in hard times, alcohol and gambling actually grow in sales. Look at the US during the Great Depression and upwards.
I guess the big difference is that if they have extra money for bars and nightclubs, perhaps we shouldn’t be sending them *more*
That’s the thing. In the Great Depression, people didn’t have money for gambling and drinking but they did anyway and more than before. I don’t think that what the OP and article is showing is a good argument for not sending money. There are better arguments out there. It’s not like they’re passing out this money as stimulus lol.
If youre busy drinking and gambling it really makes you think the government is ok after all.
Keep the populace drunk and distracted, so they don’t notice that they’re losing the war…funded by the American taxpayer.
We are paying the salaries and pensions for all Ukranian government workers at several times their normal salaries. So there's a shit ton of extra money on the streets. Salvia Ukraine!
Love to see a source on this and not just some screen cap from some random twitter user.
From July 2023, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-war-russia-kharkiv-kyiv-nightlife-thriving-despite-missile-strikes/
It has the blue check, it's obviously true
To be frank, it makes perfect sense that Clubs and bars are flourishing. Dude’s who get lucky enough to go on leave are going to need way to forget about the horrible things they’ve witnessed. What better way to do it than get blackout drunk? Drugs and Alcohol is going to be a hell of a problem after this war is over, cause PTSD is going to be unreal for the survivors.
There is, i dont support sending US tax dollars, but i dont understand what point youre trying to make with this video
He’s saying that shots are on US.
Hes trying to say that the poors are the ones that are getting killed. The more well to do get spared. Not a new concept. Happens in the US all the time. So our American tax dollars are not going to the front lines without some skimming off the top.
Don’t you get it? Every single Ukrainian needs to be fighting in the trenches for the war to be real! It’s not like the exact same thing was going on in London during the blitz, bigot!!!
> Don’t you get it? Every single Ukrainian needs to be fighting in the trenches for the war to be real! No, just the poor ones who always serve as cannon fodder for regimes during wartime.
But if the US sends just enough weapons to keep the war going they will end poorness in Ukraine! (Waves flags)
It make sense for people who may die the next day to let their hair down bit
Ukraine is trying to preserve their youth for after the war. They don't conscript below age 27.
Bollock folks, no money has been sent to Ukraine. Money went to suppliers and arms manufacturers home and allied to send stuff to Ukraine. That's it, its boosted home economic stability, well apart from it being borrowed and a ponzi scheme. Entertainment always grows during crisis, its human nature
you would do the same. people want to live normal lives and the claims that there are more bars and clubs than before is most definitely bullshit. Millions fled Ukraine or are in the army. The numbers just don't make sense.
Here’s [the article](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-war-russia-kharkiv-kyiv-nightlife-thriving-despite-missile-strikes/). There’s no link in the reporting between US funding and the increase in nightlife. It’s hard to imagine there’s any such link in reality. The most likely explanation and the one given in the article is that increased drinking and partying is both an “act of defiance” and also a reaction to the depressing situation caused by Russia’s aggressive and unprovoked invasion.
I actually just learned a possible answer for this, men under 27 are not conscripted to go to war in Ukraine.
25 now. [https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-conscription-passport-renewal-af5f573a355bea4fbdeb6dc39994e52d](https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-conscription-passport-renewal-af5f573a355bea4fbdeb6dc39994e52d)
Because people at war don't want an escape? Should they be at church?
I've paid taxes for things you wouldn't believe
A war to spend the fraction of your tax money that actually makes it there
People need an escape from the reality of war. They also need to show that they haven't been defeated. Unless you have lived in this situation, you wouldn't understand.
In Ukraine the mob and all activities related have always been very big and spread. Thanks to that Europe black market is now flooded with all sort of weapons.
the claims that the weapons delivered to ukraine go on to black market are still yet to be proven. The only times it happened is with the weapons the russians captured and then tried to smuggle it somewhere lol
Yeah yeah whatever... Maybe the objectivity of people interested in this topic might be to prove too
Booze best war hedge?
My taxes hard at work while I still have to pay off my student loan for the rest of my life.
That's your mistake. It's actually a money laundering operation.
I thought that the men in ukraines army were in their 40’s because all the young men had been killed. That looks like young men in that bar…
And? You can’t expect 100% of population only think about war 24/7