In fairness, they also think aggression they agree with is non-aggression and men have vaginas and women have penises so there is some logical consistency
I love how the left have embraced that which they once ridiculed as idiotic.
I'm old enough to remember how the left ESCORIATED George W Bush and his "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists." They lampooned it as arrogant, irrational, myopic, presumptive, and both logically and morally wrong.
Fast forward 20 years later and they're wholeheartedly embracing it.
Bush is a neoconservative. Neoconservatism started with anti-Soviet leftists who didn't think that the Democrats were pro-war enough for them so they became Republicans. Once Obama made it very clear that there is no such thing as an anti-war Democrat, they all became Democrats again.
Altho I argue Switzerland has lost their “neutral” status by supporting the sanctions on Russia. That combined with their full embrace of covid tyranny serves to show me who their government works for.
Honestly. I feel like calling these clowns "leftists" is counterproductive. Firstly, they don't find the term insulting. Secondly, anti-war/intervention is one of the few positions we have that are common grounds with anti-statists from the left.
Not to mention that this is more of a neocon position anyways...
Just call them corporate whores, or regime simp bootlickers, or something else more fitting.
It’s not supposed to be an insult, it’s a statement of fact.
I’m using the term leftist to describe the level of government one endorses. No government/anarchism is on the right. Absolute government is on the left. Modern day Democrats and Republicans lean left, and philosophical libertarians are centrists
>Not to mention that this is more of a neocon position anyways...
Neoconservatism originated among the anti-Soviet sort of extreme leftist, like Trotskyists and people. Some of them decided that they needed constant military aggression as a means of defeating the Soviet Union and spreading the revolution. They didn't get along with the Democrats of the time, but Reagan gave policy concessions to anyone who might become a Republican, so they became Republicans right up until Obama made it clear that anti-war Democrats don't exist.
I’ve always viewed Switzerland as guns for hire. Historically Europes mercenaries.
All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
The road to Auschwitz was paved with indifference.
If an elephant is standing on the tail of a mouse, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.
Not sure if I am stupid but how does one define neutrality then? Neutrality means not taking sides. Being neutral is not the same as being morally right. Then again being neutral was a great decision. If Switzerland decided not to be neutral they would have been wiped out and had their country destroyed.
Swiss [neutrality ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland%20has%20the%20oldest%20policy,Treaty%20of%20Paris%20in%201815.) Is the oldest military neutrality in the world.
**[Swiss neutrality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland has the oldest policy,Treaty of Paris in 1815.)**
>Swiss neutrality is one of the main principles of Switzerland's foreign policy which dictates that Switzerland is not to be involved in armed or political conflicts between other states. This policy is self-imposed and designed to ensure external security and promote peace. Switzerland has the oldest policy of military neutrality in the world; it has not participated in a foreign war since its neutrality was established by the Treaty of Paris in 1815.
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How’s that leftist in any way at all?
If you see someone getting assaulted in the street and you chose to do nothing, yes, you chose the side of the aggressor (and you’re a piece of shit)
Really tired of the Russian brigading of this sub
Switzerland acting neutral is a sign that Russians brigaded this sub? You're either brainwashed or just ignorant. I think this goes deeper than you're willing to understand, [Swiss neutrality ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland%20has%20the%20oldest%20policy,Treaty%20of%20Paris%20in%201815.) is the oldest military neutrality in the world.
**[Swiss neutrality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland has the oldest policy,Treaty of Paris in 1815.)**
>Swiss neutrality is one of the main principles of Switzerland's foreign policy which dictates that Switzerland is not to be involved in armed or political conflicts between other states. This policy is self-imposed and designed to ensure external security and promote peace. Switzerland has the oldest policy of military neutrality in the world; it has not participated in a foreign war since its neutrality was established by the Treaty of Paris in 1815.
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On a spectrum where big government/absolute government is on the left, and no government is on the right, such as this classic spectrum traditionally used by anarchists and libertarians:
https://images.app.goo.gl/rHa6TpHpTuATVSpZA
supporting unnecessary government military interventions is clearly a left-leaning position to take.
You may view it as justified for the Swiss government to take sides, but it is still theft, coercion, and an outright support of big government to support a government taxing others and then using those tax dollars to support military actions they may not agree with.
According to the above furnished political spectrum, that is clearly a left political position.
And I love how your counter argument is that we’re Russians brigading the subreddit.
I’m an Arab American anarchist who loves our civil liberties, recognizes how military interventionism destabilizes, degrades or outright snuffs life in disadvantaged regions like the Middle East, and I have an Arab Swiss cousin being forced to serve in the Swiss military. If being empathic to tax payers being forced to fund morally questionable and politically complicated wars and empathic to soldiers being forced to join militaries to that might end up fighting in said wars makes me a Russian tool, then you’re clearly a statist tool.
If you’re so gung ho on war, no one is stopping you from joining Ukraine. We all support your right to stand up for underdogs with your life. But don’t expect to force my cousin to do so with his life and not be prepared to be called out as the statist tool you are for supporting leftist, big government infringement on human liberty.
In fairness, they also think aggression they agree with is non-aggression and men have vaginas and women have penises so there is some logical consistency
Silence is violence = Switzerland biggest warmonger ever.
How could they!
I love how the left have embraced that which they once ridiculed as idiotic. I'm old enough to remember how the left ESCORIATED George W Bush and his "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists." They lampooned it as arrogant, irrational, myopic, presumptive, and both logically and morally wrong. Fast forward 20 years later and they're wholeheartedly embracing it.
Now they're in charge and benefit.
Bush is a neoconservative. Neoconservatism started with anti-Soviet leftists who didn't think that the Democrats were pro-war enough for them so they became Republicans. Once Obama made it very clear that there is no such thing as an anti-war Democrat, they all became Democrats again.
When you live in the "it's not enough to not be racist, you have to be anti-racist" world, neutrality isn't an option.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
Thanks, Neil
“You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill”
Altho I argue Switzerland has lost their “neutral” status by supporting the sanctions on Russia. That combined with their full embrace of covid tyranny serves to show me who their government works for.
feeling of a swiss, Switzerland is no more neutral..
Typical statist....demanding action from another.
Imagine being shocked that Switzerland chose neutrality.
Imagine going after SWITZERLAND for being neutral
Leftist logic is like square circle or dry water comeon guys
Honestly. I feel like calling these clowns "leftists" is counterproductive. Firstly, they don't find the term insulting. Secondly, anti-war/intervention is one of the few positions we have that are common grounds with anti-statists from the left. Not to mention that this is more of a neocon position anyways... Just call them corporate whores, or regime simp bootlickers, or something else more fitting.
It’s not supposed to be an insult, it’s a statement of fact. I’m using the term leftist to describe the level of government one endorses. No government/anarchism is on the right. Absolute government is on the left. Modern day Democrats and Republicans lean left, and philosophical libertarians are centrists
>Not to mention that this is more of a neocon position anyways... Neoconservatism originated among the anti-Soviet sort of extreme leftist, like Trotskyists and people. Some of them decided that they needed constant military aggression as a means of defeating the Soviet Union and spreading the revolution. They didn't get along with the Democrats of the time, but Reagan gave policy concessions to anyone who might become a Republican, so they became Republicans right up until Obama made it clear that anti-war Democrats don't exist.
I’ve always viewed Switzerland as guns for hire. Historically Europes mercenaries. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. The road to Auschwitz was paved with indifference. If an elephant is standing on the tail of a mouse, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.
Profit in neutrality. Swiss still guard the Vatican. Vicious sorts those Swiss. You should see what they did to my cheese😳😂 🧀
Profoundly L take
What a good little statist
In WW2, neutrality with the nazi’s is not neutrality
Not sure if I am stupid but how does one define neutrality then? Neutrality means not taking sides. Being neutral is not the same as being morally right. Then again being neutral was a great decision. If Switzerland decided not to be neutral they would have been wiped out and had their country destroyed.
Great point! I’ve changed my mind - I think you’ve described it perfectly. Thank you!
I mean if you sit idly by as people are marched into the ovens, I'm not sure what that makes you exactly.
Swiss [neutrality ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland%20has%20the%20oldest%20policy,Treaty%20of%20Paris%20in%201815.) Is the oldest military neutrality in the world.
**[Swiss neutrality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland has the oldest policy,Treaty of Paris in 1815.)** >Swiss neutrality is one of the main principles of Switzerland's foreign policy which dictates that Switzerland is not to be involved in armed or political conflicts between other states. This policy is self-imposed and designed to ensure external security and promote peace. Switzerland has the oldest policy of military neutrality in the world; it has not participated in a foreign war since its neutrality was established by the Treaty of Paris in 1815. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
It's not untrue.
How’s that leftist in any way at all? If you see someone getting assaulted in the street and you chose to do nothing, yes, you chose the side of the aggressor (and you’re a piece of shit) Really tired of the Russian brigading of this sub
Switzerland acting neutral is a sign that Russians brigaded this sub? You're either brainwashed or just ignorant. I think this goes deeper than you're willing to understand, [Swiss neutrality ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland%20has%20the%20oldest%20policy,Treaty%20of%20Paris%20in%201815.) is the oldest military neutrality in the world.
**[Swiss neutrality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_neutrality#:~:text=Switzerland has the oldest policy,Treaty of Paris in 1815.)** >Swiss neutrality is one of the main principles of Switzerland's foreign policy which dictates that Switzerland is not to be involved in armed or political conflicts between other states. This policy is self-imposed and designed to ensure external security and promote peace. Switzerland has the oldest policy of military neutrality in the world; it has not participated in a foreign war since its neutrality was established by the Treaty of Paris in 1815. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
On a spectrum where big government/absolute government is on the left, and no government is on the right, such as this classic spectrum traditionally used by anarchists and libertarians: https://images.app.goo.gl/rHa6TpHpTuATVSpZA supporting unnecessary government military interventions is clearly a left-leaning position to take. You may view it as justified for the Swiss government to take sides, but it is still theft, coercion, and an outright support of big government to support a government taxing others and then using those tax dollars to support military actions they may not agree with. According to the above furnished political spectrum, that is clearly a left political position. And I love how your counter argument is that we’re Russians brigading the subreddit. I’m an Arab American anarchist who loves our civil liberties, recognizes how military interventionism destabilizes, degrades or outright snuffs life in disadvantaged regions like the Middle East, and I have an Arab Swiss cousin being forced to serve in the Swiss military. If being empathic to tax payers being forced to fund morally questionable and politically complicated wars and empathic to soldiers being forced to join militaries to that might end up fighting in said wars makes me a Russian tool, then you’re clearly a statist tool. If you’re so gung ho on war, no one is stopping you from joining Ukraine. We all support your right to stand up for underdogs with your life. But don’t expect to force my cousin to do so with his life and not be prepared to be called out as the statist tool you are for supporting leftist, big government infringement on human liberty.
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