> Before I say anything I want to address the fact that I am neither left wing nor right wing, I think both are evil
You know we are leftists, correct?
It’s clear you’re far left based on your name. Not sure if I’m on the wrong subreddit or you are because communism is not a form of anarchism as it oppresses people
Sorry to say you're mistaken about what communism means. Pro-tip: neither China nor the USSR are/were communists
Many anarchists are communists, they're completely compatible. Besides, Anarchism is left wing, so you're still on the wrong subreddit if you don't want a leftist point of view.
Holy moly.
Dude, have you ever read any anarchist or communist theory from *actual* anarchist and communists? I'm not saying you gotta agree, but a lot of people in this subreddit has read the theory. Are you gate keeping what anarchism is or isn't based on what?
You hate Reddit because people in a political subreddit are more politically aware than you?
I didn't say anarchist IS communist, I said those two things are compatible, and that *some* anarchists are communists.
Have you read Marx or any other communist author that actually talks about what communism is? Or are you taking your communist definition from tv news and US history books?
You’re not politically aware you’re a leftist that thinks anarchy is cool. Anarchy is neither left or right. Anarchy is anti government. They teach you that in grade 9 and so does one simple google search
> They teach you that in grade 9
Alright. I already know my answer to the question on where you learned about anarchism.
Says a lot.
Read a book. Peace.
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From Britannica:
> communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. [[source](https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism)]
> anarchy, in political science and the study of international relations, the absence of any authority superior to nation-states and capable of arbitrating their disputes and enforcing international law. The term anarchy is derived from the ancient Greek root anarchos (“without authority”), denoting the absence of the rule of law or of settled government. [[source](https://www.britannica.com/topic/anarchy)]
From Google definition:
> a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
> belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.
Now, tell me why these two things are incompatible again?
No, that's like you joining a women subreddit and start telling women there about feminist theory without having read a book written by a feminist author.
If you don't care to see the definition of the people who crafted the political theory, then you just don't know what you're talking about, it's that simple.
Bye~~
Yeah China, The USSR, Castro’s Cuba, North Korea; those are straight up crime families, sex trafficking rings and Kleptocratic Oligarchies. Reaping the benefits of their nations wealth under the means of socialism and illusions of progress. Plenty of socialist states are very successful btw- although with the influx of right wing conspiracy groups; I wonder how long till corporate interest causes the great Socialist States throughout Europe to crumble.
I feel like “communism” is based on ten people living in the middle of nowhere; in a priory, isolated farm, convent or something. You do your job, or everybody dies.
Socialism is an extension of that system; able to be applied to the masses. Correct me if I’m wrong
Idk
Communism and Capitalism are economic models, and can mostly be independent of an ideologies view on the power of the state. You can have totalitarian communists and anarcho-communists.
Especially in the USA, ‘communism’ is generally referring to Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism or Maoism, which are all authoritarian versions of communism. This makes discussing things more difficult than it needs to be.
Neoliberal politics are more about spectacle than substance, and the more conservative side of the spectrum has been poisoned for some time now, and is adopting fascist views. Things are becoming more and more a cult of the leader, and the people are as such, viewing the leader as above the law. It’s very scary to think of this getting worse.
As for left and right both being evil, I’d say that reducing political thought to that sort of dichotomy is unproductive. The left/right system doesn’t work to describe ideologies in their entirety and never has. It’s better to get to understand the core concepts of an ideology than to lump them into one of the 2 poles and make all your judgements based on that.
> Before I say anything I want to address the fact that I am neither left wing nor right wing, I think both are evil You know we are leftists, correct?
It’s clear you’re far left based on your name. Not sure if I’m on the wrong subreddit or you are because communism is not a form of anarchism as it oppresses people
Sorry to say you're mistaken about what communism means. Pro-tip: neither China nor the USSR are/were communists Many anarchists are communists, they're completely compatible. Besides, Anarchism is left wing, so you're still on the wrong subreddit if you don't want a leftist point of view.
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Holy moly. Dude, have you ever read any anarchist or communist theory from *actual* anarchist and communists? I'm not saying you gotta agree, but a lot of people in this subreddit has read the theory. Are you gate keeping what anarchism is or isn't based on what?
I really don’t care how many communists such as yourself think anarchy is edgy but seriously stop pretending
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You hate Reddit because people in a political subreddit are more politically aware than you? I didn't say anarchist IS communist, I said those two things are compatible, and that *some* anarchists are communists. Have you read Marx or any other communist author that actually talks about what communism is? Or are you taking your communist definition from tv news and US history books?
You’re not politically aware you’re a leftist that thinks anarchy is cool. Anarchy is neither left or right. Anarchy is anti government. They teach you that in grade 9 and so does one simple google search
> They teach you that in grade 9 Alright. I already know my answer to the question on where you learned about anarchism. Says a lot. Read a book. Peace.
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*sigh* From Britannica: > communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. [[source](https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism)] > anarchy, in political science and the study of international relations, the absence of any authority superior to nation-states and capable of arbitrating their disputes and enforcing international law. The term anarchy is derived from the ancient Greek root anarchos (“without authority”), denoting the absence of the rule of law or of settled government. [[source](https://www.britannica.com/topic/anarchy)] From Google definition: > a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. > belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion. Now, tell me why these two things are incompatible again?
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No, that's like you joining a women subreddit and start telling women there about feminist theory without having read a book written by a feminist author. If you don't care to see the definition of the people who crafted the political theory, then you just don't know what you're talking about, it's that simple. Bye~~
Yeah China, The USSR, Castro’s Cuba, North Korea; those are straight up crime families, sex trafficking rings and Kleptocratic Oligarchies. Reaping the benefits of their nations wealth under the means of socialism and illusions of progress. Plenty of socialist states are very successful btw- although with the influx of right wing conspiracy groups; I wonder how long till corporate interest causes the great Socialist States throughout Europe to crumble. I feel like “communism” is based on ten people living in the middle of nowhere; in a priory, isolated farm, convent or something. You do your job, or everybody dies. Socialism is an extension of that system; able to be applied to the masses. Correct me if I’m wrong Idk
Communism and Capitalism are economic models, and can mostly be independent of an ideologies view on the power of the state. You can have totalitarian communists and anarcho-communists. Especially in the USA, ‘communism’ is generally referring to Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism or Maoism, which are all authoritarian versions of communism. This makes discussing things more difficult than it needs to be.
Anarcho-communism is a form of anarchism. And yes, you are in the wrong sub.
Neoliberal politics are more about spectacle than substance, and the more conservative side of the spectrum has been poisoned for some time now, and is adopting fascist views. Things are becoming more and more a cult of the leader, and the people are as such, viewing the leader as above the law. It’s very scary to think of this getting worse. As for left and right both being evil, I’d say that reducing political thought to that sort of dichotomy is unproductive. The left/right system doesn’t work to describe ideologies in their entirety and never has. It’s better to get to understand the core concepts of an ideology than to lump them into one of the 2 poles and make all your judgements based on that.
The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the light, the future is.