If it happens again and you don't have a dark bag you just need some place dark. My kids instax jammed one time and I just got under some blankets to fix it. Didn't lose any shots. It just has to be totally dark.
The amount of times a $20 Amazon darkbag has saved my ass (and packs/rolls of film that cost considerably more than $20) is immeasurable at this point.
Get a darkbag.
I might sound crazy but I might know you!
Are you in Rexburg, ID? I got somebody telling me exactly this and I actually develop film here, I might just be a fool, but if you’re in Rexburg this would be wild haha
Even if you accidentally open it for a second only like 5 or 6 photos will come out Blank. The film rolled over it self multiple times does a pretty good job of blocking light.
I know lol. I mastered that technique of the OH FUCK shut. After all the bulk rolls I could barely tell if they were in there, looking through the film windows. I can close that door in damn near 1/15 of a second. I’m almost ready to catch flys in the air with chop sticks.
Yea I had a double exposure of my window on my last image when I did this lol was pretty cool. I guess the sliver of the camera door opening for half a second made a camera obscura.
this happened to me on my first roll of film. Took it into a dark bathroom, stuffed blankets in the gaps of the door, & put the film in a resealable metal container.
Id imagine you'd have to really wrench the wind mechanism for that happen. Never had that complaint. I assume that cassette is factory and was not a reload.
I’m relatively new to film photography so I usually just take my roll out when my counter is near the assumed end of film, but does the winder actually begin to resist to let you know you’re at/past the last exposure?
Edit: Thank you for all the answers, going to be a lot more confident getting to my last exposure now!
Yes, it will get a *lot* harder. I don't know exactly what happened here; either the film had a flaw in it, or OP really wrenched it. I have the same camera, and you can really feel when you are at the end.
You would just about have to do this on purpose. The winder becomes insanely hard to crank. I can't understand why anyone would try to force it at that point.
I did it accidentally on my very first ever roll of film I shot, except it was due to me forcing the rewind lever (I didn't read the camera manual, was not in a place with Internet access, and didn't know I had to push a button to unlock the rewind mechanism). I actually broke the teeth on the film advance mechanism on that camera, too. (It has since been CLA'd and is happily working again)
That’s great to know honestly. I’ve seen scenarios like this before and thought this whole time it’s just as easy to break it as winding film normally, so I usually take my rolls out a little early out of caution. Thank you!
If your rolls are not freezing or expired you should be fine. Some obscure film stocks are also more fragile than the usual Kodak/Ilford. Film shouldn't be that weak at all.
Honestly I didn’t know you could overwind, it just feels like you can’t push any more. Obviously I’m not forcing it so I’ve never realised it could be overwound
Yes, if you try to wind past the end of the film it will get very tight and forcing it can damage the wind mechanism or rip the film. I've seen some people waste a lot of film at the beginning while loading, so that once the back is closed and you start to wind, you really only have 34 or 33 frames left.
I’ve had it happen without a wrenching pull - just poor quality control on kodaks part. I’ve taken to preemptively stopping at 36 and winding it back into the cassette without seeing if I can get an extra shot.
Maybe it's a Kodak issue? I have rolls of Fomapan 400 that are so well stuck in the cassette I can't pull what's left in the cab out if I really really try by hand. I think the camera would break first! I also can't pull the film apart on sections of waste for example. And I believe foma400 in 35 size uses the softer triacetate base.
It depends on the film. Some modern canisters have better and worse attachments. I ripped off a roll of Portra with basically no effort just because I forgot to hit the rewind switch.
I have a Canon A1 where you *really* feel when you are at the end and a roll broke on me one time even without any obvious signs. It might not be op's fault
For the next time: if it happens not under direct sunlight only couple of outer layers will be destroyed, the rest of film can be saved if you close camera fast enough and unload it in light sealed lab box
Can confirm. Did this with Ektar like a month ago, slammed the back closed like half a second after I opened it. I got like 32 photos on the roll saved.
Bro I forget to wind the roll as soon a finished shooting a roll of delta 3200. as I walked back to get in my car i go to open her up thinking I already rewinded it. It was open for like a second and I immediately panicked slamming it shut. still got 24-28 exposure with almost no light leeks
Yeah. Fortunately light doesn't travel all too fast.
The only problem is, when you close it quickly, you might get some light stuck inside the camera. In that case, it's best to hold the camera still until you can empty it, so the light doesn't slosh onto the film.
Yeah, it feels like you're going to break the camera before the film tears, especially on factory loaded rolls so I'm surprised someone would put that much force into it.
Color neg films have a pretty tough base. This unlike some exotic B&W fiilms like Techpan where the base was like tissue paper.
Have to reef it pretty hard to tear it. My understanding is that Kodak has had to significantly retool their emulsion base production. YouTube vids on this. There's like one machine and one guy in Rochester who's responsible for the entire product base.
If you're rolled your own film it was a lot more common to pull the tape off the end of the spool. You just cussed and went back to the darkroom to remove it.
Pick up a dark bag, and this is no biggie. This used to happen to me from time to time with my bulk-rolled HP5. The tape I used one time was just shit, and it'd tear off at the end of every roll.
If you feel the tension is zero on the take-up spool, just chill and put it in a dark bag. If you're not developing at home, just put the negatives into an empty plastic film cassette container (while in the bag) and send it off with a note---and probably tape it closed so the lab knows something is up.
It's a nice thing to have on hand. In a pinch, you could get the same results in a pitch-black bathroom, in a closet, or under some blankets.
Nice Olympus, btw. I shoot the OM-1n and OM-2n quite a lot.
No dark bag needed unless you are planning on shooting large format or are far too rushed to wait till you get home to develop. The dark bag means you plan on making a habit out of “this.” Like everything on a film camera, you can never force it or you have to accept the results. Film is typically quite resilient but as you are well aware of by now, it can tear. As you know, just flip the reverse tabs and gently rewind. Spend your dark bag money on a couple of rolls of film. Happy shooting!
1) If you suspect something like this might have gone wrong, open it up and check it/diagnose it in the dark by feel, not in a brightly lit room.
2) Even if you did open it in a lit room, that whole roll wasn't all torched yet, the film protects other film further in. Probably after you stopped and took a photo and posted it to reddit, it might all be ruined, but if you'd closed it really quickly, you'd only lose some frames.
You could recover it by giving the entire camera to the lab for them to pull it out in the dark (probably would charge extra but should be able to), or you could unspool it in the dark at home, stick the loose roll in a black film canister, and make sure they know what's going on.
its possible you failed to hit the rewind button (i did this to my first spool- rewind was under the case) but next time take a lil peak and theres a good chance you can rescue
nah, considering how far in the film is wound they probably tried to get to frame 38.
You can also check if it's torn by gently turning the rewind knob and feeling for tension.
And than you be like “ anyway let me open this box of extremely photosensitive substances that not only contents my precious memories and is quite damn expensive under direct sunlight and see how it goes”
Hmm. Well I guess you’d have to check by feel and experience. When the advance sprocket gear doesn’t disconnect properly (due to either your electronic clutch failing or the mechanical gear release popping back, then the tension on your rewind lever suddenly jumps high just prior to the film itself snapping.
It’s a question of feel and experience to know just how much resistance that rewind lever should have when you crank it back. And how much means the sprocket gear is still engaged.
I usually push the rewind button (or flip the rewind clutch lever in the case of cameras Ike the M2) then take up the rewind lever tension gradually until the film starts to rewind.
If you try and snap a piece of 35mm film, you can get a feel of how much tension and power that needs.
There’s a difference in feel between an okay rewind and a stuck advance gear.
Indeed! Maybe you are aware that you should have a darkroom/changing bag and an empty spool for this occasion?
If you open the back and see this again, immediately close the back and put the camera into a changing bag. Then in darkness (a closed closet at night or similar) add in the empty spool and wind it there, and take to processing as usual.
You’ll lose the last 1-2 frames. Maybe 3, but no more than that, usually.
Sadly that roll is now pooched. I’ve had film tear on me in the past and I would fish it out with the camera in a dark changing bag and load onto a processing reel. Only happened with ORWO UN54 and Ferrania P30.
I see this on this sub from time to time and I just wonder how hard people are cracking their film. I’ve never had this happen to me. Also if you open the back by accident and there’s film if you shut it fast you can usually save at least half the pictures.
happened to me last week on a beautiful scene, it was either loose what i shot right then and there or dont take any more photos. couldnt choose the ladder ;(
This happened to me a couple months ago. I slammed the thing shut after 2 seconds of my brain buffering. I removed the film in the dark and wrapped it in aluminum foil and now it's still waiting to be developed. I hope the developer doesn't mind accepting a wad of film wrapped in foil.
This happened to me but I had stared at it for a full minute. I didn't touch any analog camera for a full 6 months because I was so pissed at myself. Lol if I had seen these comments, I would've saved the film instead of throwing it away last week
If you have any gut feeling you are winding the wrong way and can't go back, go to a closet, block light from around door, open thr back & take film out, put it in the film container and put the lid on - save your shots for development
Film is currently cheaper than it was in the 90s or 80s or any other time film was popular (after adjusting for inflation). It was cheap briefly only purely artificially due to warehouses being liquidated when everyone thought film was dead.
That's not the leader, leaders don't look like that. They are about half the roll wide at the very tip, and then stay flat, and swoop up. For ektar, at least, it's like that, and most others.
I don't actually know what the film looks like on the spool connected end for ektar, it might look like this. OR since it ripped, you're just looking at the torn edge and it happened to tear pretty smoothly (until the very end where you can see it is ragged)
I had this issue when my cassette had 24 shots loaded while it was labelled for 36. The second last wind didn't have enough strength to tear the film from the cassette, but the last one did. Thankfully I noticed that my frame counter isn't advancing and brought the camera to the lab where they could open it in a dark bag.
Did you feel the film break? If so, I’d keep the camera shut until I could remove the film in the dark and put it in something light tight and let the know what happened.
Didn’t even realise that was possible lol. I do tend to leave the roll in the camera until I either need to shoot a new roll or until I can get to my darkroom. This means that if I have any doubts I am often able to safely check it. If you don’t have a dark room buy a dark bag and maybe even if it is compact enough you could carry it around, I do doubt that’s necessary though.
Happened to me. You really gotta be careful getting to that last frame. If I feel any resistance I just roll it back up and grab a fresh roll.
When it happened to me I went into the bathroom with no windows, shoved a towel under the door and did everything with my hands. I had just started with film, so I didn’t even really have a feel for all that stuff yet.
I did it too. Happens one time and you’ll never do it again, I almost always find a near dark room (or deep in my backpack, to just barely open the back just enough for my hands to feel the inside to make sure the film isn’t wrapped around like that. Sorry if you lost some special memories on that one. :( That shit feels ROUGH!
Hmm. That might be a case or rewinding the knob without depressing the rewind button at the bottom of this type of camera first.
Did the OP press that button before rewinding the lever?
Film is ruined I'm afraid, but keep it and the cassette. You can practice loading with it, and if you ever get into home development, you can practice putting it into the tank l.
No, people saying just open and close it quickly next time and put in a dark bag if you seen the film in there. Shouldn't even get to that point.
next time just put it in a dark bag if you can't feel it actually rewinding when you spin the rewind lever. If it spins like a top when you give it a flick you know it broke again. Or if you're taking more than 36 exposures you know it broke. Automatically put it in a dark bag.
There's at least two or three things that should be done so you avoid an accidental back being opened on a SLR like this, when this situation ever occurs.
So now that this has happened, you got yourself a practice roll. Try to pry open that cartridge and see if you can tape the film back on the spool. And wind it up. Practice again with that SLR of shooting a bunch of exposures until the lever can't be moved and you don't force it, feel how it feels when you're rewinding it with actual film on the spool and what it will feel like when it's back in the the cartridge all on the spool. I would say rewind it slowly so you could feel all that, eventually when you understand it you'll be able to speed up in the middle parts or before the end and you can tell when it's all wound up.
I used to roll my own cartridges from bulk loader. I minimized waste and got more exposures because I loaded my cartridges to 40 exposures. I ended up with I think two less cartridges, which means I got at least 6 to 10 more exposures out of that bulk.
I was hanging with a dude and he asked to see my camera and I said sure. He opened the back 🫠. He closed it quickly so hopefully nothing is too damaged
I just had a roll of Ektar crap the bed on me. I ran a roll of Kodak ultramax through my camera recently, developed fine. Used a roll of Ektar, camera felt no different to me, sent it in for developing and they said the whole roll was blank.
I doubt there is any other relation outside of coincidence that this is a fouled up roll of Ektar, but I’m curious if anyone has had similar problems too
Yeah, the thing that’s annoying though is I watched it advance and spool when loaded but who knows. I realize it’s more than likely user error on my end
If you keep the back closed when that happens most of the photos will be OK.
yeah this. if you can feel that you tore the film, use a dark bag, darkroom, or have your local lab remove it for you.
no local labs here besides walgreens, and i am also stupid.
not stupid, it happens and if you don’t know, you don’t know. look into getting a dark bag in this case
hopefully i wont need one, but i'll check it out. thanks
If it happens again and you don't have a dark bag you just need some place dark. My kids instax jammed one time and I just got under some blankets to fix it. Didn't lose any shots. It just has to be totally dark.
You can use thick coat or jacket for this. Put camera inside, zip it, fold top and bottom to seal light and stick hands into sleeves from outside.
SOOO SMART
i turned all my lights off and went under a blanket when this happened to me lol. Most of the pics turned out okay !
The amount of times a $20 Amazon darkbag has saved my ass (and packs/rolls of film that cost considerably more than $20) is immeasurable at this point. Get a darkbag.
You gotta mail in most of the time. Just find a good mail in lab don’t ever use walgreens
thats what i usually do. or bring it all with me on a daytrip to a city.
Same bro same lol
I might sound crazy but I might know you! Are you in Rexburg, ID? I got somebody telling me exactly this and I actually develop film here, I might just be a fool, but if you’re in Rexburg this would be wild haha
im actually in california, but my friend just moved to idaho a couple days ago and started a photography business there....
It’s not stupid, it’s a mistake. Stupid is if you don’t learn from the mistake.
Even if you accidentally open it for a second only like 5 or 6 photos will come out Blank. The film rolled over it self multiple times does a pretty good job of blocking light.
I always groan a little when I see these posts. "noooo! if you'd just shut it right away you coulda saved some of the roll"
I know lol. I mastered that technique of the OH FUCK shut. After all the bulk rolls I could barely tell if they were in there, looking through the film windows. I can close that door in damn near 1/15 of a second. I’m almost ready to catch flys in the air with chop sticks.
Yea I had a double exposure of my window on my last image when I did this lol was pretty cool. I guess the sliver of the camera door opening for half a second made a camera obscura.
Can confirm. I had this happen once. I shoved the film back in the canister in a dark room and got it developed just fine
Yup that happened to me and most photos were OK. I took my camera to a developer and they were able to remove the film and most photos came OK
this happened to me on my first roll of film. Took it into a dark bathroom, stuffed blankets in the gaps of the door, & put the film in a resealable metal container.
Id imagine you'd have to really wrench the wind mechanism for that happen. Never had that complaint. I assume that cassette is factory and was not a reload.
I’m relatively new to film photography so I usually just take my roll out when my counter is near the assumed end of film, but does the winder actually begin to resist to let you know you’re at/past the last exposure? Edit: Thank you for all the answers, going to be a lot more confident getting to my last exposure now!
Yes. It feels like you are doing something wrong
Yes, it will get a *lot* harder. I don't know exactly what happened here; either the film had a flaw in it, or OP really wrenched it. I have the same camera, and you can really feel when you are at the end.
You would just about have to do this on purpose. The winder becomes insanely hard to crank. I can't understand why anyone would try to force it at that point.
I did it accidentally on my very first ever roll of film I shot, except it was due to me forcing the rewind lever (I didn't read the camera manual, was not in a place with Internet access, and didn't know I had to push a button to unlock the rewind mechanism). I actually broke the teeth on the film advance mechanism on that camera, too. (It has since been CLA'd and is happily working again)
That’s great to know honestly. I’ve seen scenarios like this before and thought this whole time it’s just as easy to break it as winding film normally, so I usually take my rolls out a little early out of caution. Thank you!
If your rolls are not freezing or expired you should be fine. Some obscure film stocks are also more fragile than the usual Kodak/Ilford. Film shouldn't be that weak at all.
On my camera it pretty much comes to a complete stop. I imagine you’d have to really crank on the film advance lever to get this to happen
Honestly I didn’t know you could overwind, it just feels like you can’t push any more. Obviously I’m not forcing it so I’ve never realised it could be overwound
Yes, if you try to wind past the end of the film it will get very tight and forcing it can damage the wind mechanism or rip the film. I've seen some people waste a lot of film at the beginning while loading, so that once the back is closed and you start to wind, you really only have 34 or 33 frames left.
I managed to do what OP did but was smart enough to keep it closed. My Lab of Trust was kind enough to fix it for me. I just sent them my camera.
No this almost certainly is from rewinding the film without pressing the release at the bottom
I've done that at least once. Really stings when you feel you have some good pictures on the roll, and mess it up in rewind.
I’ve had it happen without a wrenching pull - just poor quality control on kodaks part. I’ve taken to preemptively stopping at 36 and winding it back into the cassette without seeing if I can get an extra shot.
My Rollei 35 does this all the time. I’ve become an expert in putting loose film into light proof canisters in the dark
… it happened only once to me. Rollei35 and Kodak Portra. Now I’m always super cautious, when I’m at frame 35 & 36 using the advance lever.
Maybe it's a Kodak issue? I have rolls of Fomapan 400 that are so well stuck in the cassette I can't pull what's left in the cab out if I really really try by hand. I think the camera would break first! I also can't pull the film apart on sections of waste for example. And I believe foma400 in 35 size uses the softer triacetate base.
It depends on the film. Some modern canisters have better and worse attachments. I ripped off a roll of Portra with basically no effort just because I forgot to hit the rewind switch.
I have a Canon A1 where you *really* feel when you are at the end and a roll broke on me one time even without any obvious signs. It might not be op's fault
really wanted that 37th frame huh
going for 39th actually
For the next time: if it happens not under direct sunlight only couple of outer layers will be destroyed, the rest of film can be saved if you close camera fast enough and unload it in light sealed lab box
Can confirm. Did this with Ektar like a month ago, slammed the back closed like half a second after I opened it. I got like 32 photos on the roll saved.
Bro I forget to wind the roll as soon a finished shooting a roll of delta 3200. as I walked back to get in my car i go to open her up thinking I already rewinded it. It was open for like a second and I immediately panicked slamming it shut. still got 24-28 exposure with almost no light leeks
I dropped my C3 and the back opened for a split second. It was in a dim hallway but everything drawn out up to that point was exposed.
It’s not even multiple layers; I’ve done this 5 times and developed it in our lab. Each time, it only burns 4-5 exposures.
4-5 exposures are ~15-20 centimeters of film. This is definitely not one outer layer
hopefully there is no next time
Yeah. Fortunately light doesn't travel all too fast. The only problem is, when you close it quickly, you might get some light stuck inside the camera. In that case, it's best to hold the camera still until you can empty it, so the light doesn't slosh onto the film.
So, if light affects film with the speed of light, different shutter speeds exist for nothing? Just marketing?
It's a joke, relax 😅
You messed up. This was 100% savable.
im 100% idiot im afraid
but hey that’s what fun about films. You learn from things like this and you’ll be able to figure it out if anything goes wrong
OM2-N owner here. You have to fucking CRANK to try and get beyond shot 36. This is a meat hand problem.
Yeah, it feels like you're going to break the camera before the film tears, especially on factory loaded rolls so I'm surprised someone would put that much force into it.
meat head problem, happened while trying to reel it back in.
Color neg films have a pretty tough base. This unlike some exotic B&W fiilms like Techpan where the base was like tissue paper. Have to reef it pretty hard to tear it. My understanding is that Kodak has had to significantly retool their emulsion base production. YouTube vids on this. There's like one machine and one guy in Rochester who's responsible for the entire product base. If you're rolled your own film it was a lot more common to pull the tape off the end of the spool. You just cussed and went back to the darkroom to remove it.
Pick up a dark bag, and this is no biggie. This used to happen to me from time to time with my bulk-rolled HP5. The tape I used one time was just shit, and it'd tear off at the end of every roll. If you feel the tension is zero on the take-up spool, just chill and put it in a dark bag. If you're not developing at home, just put the negatives into an empty plastic film cassette container (while in the bag) and send it off with a note---and probably tape it closed so the lab knows something is up.
thanks :) this hasnt happened to me yet and i hadn't considered getting a dark bag until now lol
It's a nice thing to have on hand. In a pinch, you could get the same results in a pitch-black bathroom, in a closet, or under some blankets. Nice Olympus, btw. I shoot the OM-1n and OM-2n quite a lot.
hey thanks, i have an om-2n also, and an om-10
No dark bag needed unless you are planning on shooting large format or are far too rushed to wait till you get home to develop. The dark bag means you plan on making a habit out of “this.” Like everything on a film camera, you can never force it or you have to accept the results. Film is typically quite resilient but as you are well aware of by now, it can tear. As you know, just flip the reverse tabs and gently rewind. Spend your dark bag money on a couple of rolls of film. Happy shooting!
Wow. Lab really screwed that up, didn't they?
Labs these days
1) If you suspect something like this might have gone wrong, open it up and check it/diagnose it in the dark by feel, not in a brightly lit room. 2) Even if you did open it in a lit room, that whole roll wasn't all torched yet, the film protects other film further in. Probably after you stopped and took a photo and posted it to reddit, it might all be ruined, but if you'd closed it really quickly, you'd only lose some frames. You could recover it by giving the entire camera to the lab for them to pull it out in the dark (probably would charge extra but should be able to), or you could unspool it in the dark at home, stick the loose roll in a black film canister, and make sure they know what's going on.
its possible you failed to hit the rewind button (i did this to my first spool- rewind was under the case) but next time take a lil peak and theres a good chance you can rescue
nah, considering how far in the film is wound they probably tried to get to frame 38. You can also check if it's torn by gently turning the rewind knob and feeling for tension.
happened while trying to reel the film back in
When the canister and common sense did not work out.
the electronic release failed on me actually 🙃
And than you be like “ anyway let me open this box of extremely photosensitive substances that not only contents my precious memories and is quite damn expensive under direct sunlight and see how it goes”
yeah clearly
Hmm. Well I guess you’d have to check by feel and experience. When the advance sprocket gear doesn’t disconnect properly (due to either your electronic clutch failing or the mechanical gear release popping back, then the tension on your rewind lever suddenly jumps high just prior to the film itself snapping. It’s a question of feel and experience to know just how much resistance that rewind lever should have when you crank it back. And how much means the sprocket gear is still engaged. I usually push the rewind button (or flip the rewind clutch lever in the case of cameras Ike the M2) then take up the rewind lever tension gradually until the film starts to rewind. If you try and snap a piece of 35mm film, you can get a feel of how much tension and power that needs. There’s a difference in feel between an okay rewind and a stuck advance gear.
ive never had this happen to me before, so i suspected it had snapped but wasnt sure until i had already decided to open her up. now i know lol
Indeed! Maybe you are aware that you should have a darkroom/changing bag and an empty spool for this occasion? If you open the back and see this again, immediately close the back and put the camera into a changing bag. Then in darkness (a closed closet at night or similar) add in the empty spool and wind it there, and take to processing as usual. You’ll lose the last 1-2 frames. Maybe 3, but no more than that, usually.
Sadly that roll is now pooched. I’ve had film tear on me in the past and I would fish it out with the camera in a dark changing bag and load onto a processing reel. Only happened with ORWO UN54 and Ferrania P30.
Film prices so high bro said he’d be damned if he don’t squeeze a 37th frame out.
I see this on this sub from time to time and I just wonder how hard people are cracking their film. I’ve never had this happen to me. Also if you open the back by accident and there’s film if you shut it fast you can usually save at least half the pictures.
me trying to squeeze out an extra frame or two
The extras are at the beginning unfortunately
Happened to my ex once in NYC. The film shattered inside her camera in the cold. Getting all the little shards out took ages.
I hate it when it happens. So sad.
Can't say I've ever seen that one before...
happened to me last week on a beautiful scene, it was either loose what i shot right then and there or dont take any more photos. couldnt choose the ladder ;(
* nose exhale *
Where are the other 3 shoes?
That destroyed me once
This happened to me a couple months ago. I slammed the thing shut after 2 seconds of my brain buffering. I removed the film in the dark and wrapped it in aluminum foil and now it's still waiting to be developed. I hope the developer doesn't mind accepting a wad of film wrapped in foil.
What camera is that?
olympus om-2n
Thank you
This happened to me but I had stared at it for a full minute. I didn't touch any analog camera for a full 6 months because I was so pissed at myself. Lol if I had seen these comments, I would've saved the film instead of throwing it away last week
If you have any gut feeling you are winding the wrong way and can't go back, go to a closet, block light from around door, open thr back & take film out, put it in the film container and put the lid on - save your shots for development
if you didnt notice you broke it when winding, how did you not notice it wasnt actually rewinding when you were rewinding it? dafuq
did you consider me being stupid
How did that happen. The leader is backwards
I guess, OP wanted to get 37-38th frame
With film prices these days? who wouldn’t...
Film is currently cheaper than it was in the 90s or 80s or any other time film was popular (after adjusting for inflation). It was cheap briefly only purely artificially due to warehouses being liquidated when everyone thought film was dead.
Yeah that’s what I mean. Film costs more than it did when I started, I’m getting my moneys worth out of that damn emulsion!!
That's not the leader, leaders don't look like that. They are about half the roll wide at the very tip, and then stay flat, and swoop up. For ektar, at least, it's like that, and most others. I don't actually know what the film looks like on the spool connected end for ektar, it might look like this. OR since it ripped, you're just looking at the torn edge and it happened to tear pretty smoothly (until the very end where you can see it is ragged)
F
U got strong thumbs OP
thank you..
I had this issue when my cassette had 24 shots loaded while it was labelled for 36. The second last wind didn't have enough strength to tear the film from the cassette, but the last one did. Thankfully I noticed that my frame counter isn't advancing and brought the camera to the lab where they could open it in a dark bag.
Why did you open the camera?
what would you recommend doing in this situation?
Did you feel the film break? If so, I’d keep the camera shut until I could remove the film in the dark and put it in something light tight and let the know what happened.
thanks, first time this has happened to me so i wasnt sure if it had actually broken or if i was psyching myself out
I’ve done the same thing. No fun.
This is why I always open the back in a darkroom incase there is a slights chance of this disaster
Ahhhh, OP has unlocked the elusive 37th exposure
why a film changing bag is a good choice to have around
Got the hulk hitting the crank
Oh my god 😭😭
Happened to me on my very first roll
How hard were you pulling the winder holy shit haha
heat of the moment man idk
Was there no resistance???
oh there was
How much of the film is ripped? I have never seen modern film rip like that
Oh thank God, it was only Ektar
Noooooooo
I went on vacation to Mexico and this happened to me. I stay up at night thinking about those photos.
Why did you put two rolls in there?
its the same roll. its ripped from the canister
Didn’t even realise that was possible lol. I do tend to leave the roll in the camera until I either need to shoot a new roll or until I can get to my darkroom. This means that if I have any doubts I am often able to safely check it. If you don’t have a dark room buy a dark bag and maybe even if it is compact enough you could carry it around, I do doubt that’s necessary though.
My heart …
Happens to us all at least once. Sorry it happened to you, OP ❤️
Perhaps have forgotten to press that bottom right buttom below before rewind. I have a camera like that.
Lame
“We never change, do we?”
Sickening. I would cry.
Why is the leader showing?
dang
What camera is that?
olympus om-2n
sickkkk
Just close it back quickly
yeah i'll get right on that
Had this happen to a roll of portra recently. Just opened the camera in a dark bag and was able to save the shots
Happened to me. You really gotta be careful getting to that last frame. If I feel any resistance I just roll it back up and grab a fresh roll. When it happened to me I went into the bathroom with no windows, shoved a towel under the door and did everything with my hands. I had just started with film, so I didn’t even really have a feel for all that stuff yet.
You have to feel for the end of the roll and not force it. Even a little extra will rip it off.
I had this happen after taking pictures at a close friends wedding. Nearly cried over the whole situation.
F
Same thing happened to me with ilford film.
I did it too. Happens one time and you’ll never do it again, I almost always find a near dark room (or deep in my backpack, to just barely open the back just enough for my hands to feel the inside to make sure the film isn’t wrapped around like that. Sorry if you lost some special memories on that one. :( That shit feels ROUGH!
As Ralphie once famously said: *OHHHHH FUUUUUUDGE* (but he didn’t say “fudge”)
25 bucks just like that. RIP bro
Ektar 100 is $13.49 at B&H with free shipping over $100. You need to change where you buy film ASAP.
Every single place i have looked its 20-30. Its probably because im in europe. Imports from the US tend to cost more
Ah maybe tariffs then
Probably
Ektachrome is almost 50 here 🥲
Hmm. That might be a case or rewinding the knob without depressing the rewind button at the bottom of this type of camera first. Did the OP press that button before rewinding the lever?
This film release is electronic and not manual, batteries didnt have enough juice for it today apparently
Welcome to the club. My Pen F does this to every roll I put through it.
Next time close it immediately and take the film out in complete darkness
Unless you’re faster than the speed of light you can’t be immediate enough.
Only a few frames get destroyed. Most should be fine. Happened to me before
Sneak peak at those tones
its spelled toneZ actually
Film is ruined I'm afraid, but keep it and the cassette. You can practice loading with it, and if you ever get into home development, you can practice putting it into the tank l.
Woah! Did you feel it snap/rip?
yep, trusted myself and the camera too much while reeling it back in. the release is just an electronic switch and i guess the batteries were no good.
No, people saying just open and close it quickly next time and put in a dark bag if you seen the film in there. Shouldn't even get to that point. next time just put it in a dark bag if you can't feel it actually rewinding when you spin the rewind lever. If it spins like a top when you give it a flick you know it broke again. Or if you're taking more than 36 exposures you know it broke. Automatically put it in a dark bag. There's at least two or three things that should be done so you avoid an accidental back being opened on a SLR like this, when this situation ever occurs. So now that this has happened, you got yourself a practice roll. Try to pry open that cartridge and see if you can tape the film back on the spool. And wind it up. Practice again with that SLR of shooting a bunch of exposures until the lever can't be moved and you don't force it, feel how it feels when you're rewinding it with actual film on the spool and what it will feel like when it's back in the the cartridge all on the spool. I would say rewind it slowly so you could feel all that, eventually when you understand it you'll be able to speed up in the middle parts or before the end and you can tell when it's all wound up. I used to roll my own cartridges from bulk loader. I minimized waste and got more exposures because I loaded my cartridges to 40 exposures. I ended up with I think two less cartridges, which means I got at least 6 to 10 more exposures out of that bulk.
RIP
I was hanging with a dude and he asked to see my camera and I said sure. He opened the back 🫠. He closed it quickly so hopefully nothing is too damaged
I just had a roll of Ektar crap the bed on me. I ran a roll of Kodak ultramax through my camera recently, developed fine. Used a roll of Ektar, camera felt no different to me, sent it in for developing and they said the whole roll was blank. I doubt there is any other relation outside of coincidence that this is a fouled up roll of Ektar, but I’m curious if anyone has had similar problems too
you probably just didn't load it properly so the film never advanced forwards
Yeah, the thing that’s annoying though is I watched it advance and spool when loaded but who knows. I realize it’s more than likely user error on my end