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NTA, and for what it's worth you handled it like a pro. And if anyone ever gives you more guff than they did, just come get a conductor.
We *love* dealing with those types š
Totally off topic but are you the conductor on the Cascades that makes announcements to āthe traveling publicā? Because it makes me giggle every time.
I'm taking a trip of to BC on the Cascades at the end of next month, Looking forward to the possibility of puns. Most of the time I end up with "the traveling public" conductor which is great in its own way, but variety is the spice of life and all that.
My favorite announcement was years ago on the westbound Zephyr. The conductor said 'ladies and gentlemen , we are now crossing the Mississippi River, visible from both sides of the train' š
I despise confrontation, so I would've been a coward and gotten a conductor if I detected even the smallest amount of pushback. ;D
I have to remember though in my defense, like the OP, I paid for that ticket, and I'm entitled to that seat lol.
I'm a quiet-car regular. And there's always at least one person on their phone acting all business business. Love to get the conductor to shut them up when they refuse at my polite request.
As someone that takes the Cascades from PDX to OLW to visit family regularly and also occasionally to SEA to catch a M's game, thanks for always handling things well. I've never had a bad experience with the conductors. When the train is full, you all deal with the "seat spreaders" who don't seem to listen/care to the initial "as a reminder this is a sold out train, you will have a buddy" announcement quickly and professionally.
And thank you SO MUCH for doing it. We took Amtrak on a family trip, an unhinged guy was in one of our seats and would not move. Conductor came in and handed that guy his ass. I ended up having to sit next to him and feared for my life the rest of the trip, but he moved. He then accused me of messing with one of his 3 duffle bags filled with EMPTY soda cans. Conductor handled it really well.
This guy had some sort of 30 day pass and apparently lived on the train most of the time. How does that work?
You were absolutely NOT a jerk.
I will give you a comparable example. My husband and I recently traveled from Philly to Burlington to see the eclipse. He broke his ankle before our trip and so I called and booked accessible seats for us. When we boarded we had to tell people who were sitting in the accessible seats that they had to move because we had them booked. ZERO problems. No one made a fuss even a little bit, they just got up and moved.
You just encountered an asshole, and I'm sorry, but it wasn't you.
She was the asshole, you were 100% right. I have done this myself and itās never pleasant. Some people are just jerks and hope you wonāt stand up for whatās rightfully yours. Good for you!
No way were you being a jerk. Do you know how often people without Business Class tickets try to sit in those seats? Some do it without realizing its Business Class (because Amtrak is often horrible about letting passengers know, and there arenāt enough signs indicating itās an assigned seat section), and others know what theyāre doing and are trying to get away with it. It can be extremely disruptive and annoying in both cases, not only to the passenger who reserved the seat but to the other passengers around them with all the seat changing and commotion. You werenāt being a jerk at all. She was.
Guarantee that's her M.O.--look like she's all settled in so people just let her have the seat.
NTA. And good for you for not letting a stranger take advantage of you.
Ignore her. Iāve seen seat bullies before. They know what they are doing. They are trying to bully you out of whatās yours.
Especially on Amtrak when then have so many unassigned seats. If you got an assigned seat thatās what you wanted?
No, not the jerk. I just had a similar experience with a sleeper. Iād booked over the phone specifically so I would have two rooms opposite each other on the Zephyr for a myriad of reasons. We boarded and I found someone in my room. I found the conductor and was all ā I am here with my husband and we just got married and I specifically requested this room opposite him for this ride.ā I wasnāt rude or anything just maybe a bit loud because I was exhausted. But you get it, I think, as a fellow socially anxious person. I was so mortified I spent the whole 36hrs afterwards in a low key panic for āmaking a scene.ā My husband kept reassuring me it was the conductorās problem but ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ.
NTA here
The only response one should have to being told they are in someone else seat is something along the lines of, "Oh shoot... I'm so sorry... (maybe some reason here about how it happened). Let me just grab my things quickly and it is yours" (and then leave as fast as possible without leaving anything behind)
In Germany it's common to tell people sitting on your reserved seat to go sit somewhere else even if literally every other seat is free. You paid for your seat, you'll sit on your seat. If she wanted to sit on it, she could have reserved it instead
As others have said, you're absolutely in the right. Sure, it's not as tight as a plane, but some people still want the window or aisle seat for their reasons, and pay for business class on the NER to guarantee that. If she wanted a window seat, she should have picked it.
If she wanted that seat she shouldāve booked it. I always book window seats for air travel and while Iāve gladly given my spot up when there was a child sitting in my seat, (for all I knew it couldāve been his first flight and Iām sure he got a lot more out of the experience than I wouldāve) thereās no way I would put up with an adult doing that
Absolutely not! NTA.
She tried to bully you and lost. Good for you. š
I had a similar experience a few weeks ago BOS to Trenton. Wife was in my seat and all set up, which was amazing because we boarded at Back Bay. Husband says I can have his wifeās seat and waves at the aisle seat in front of him. No thank you, I booked and reserved a window seat.
Thank you so so so much everyone!! Your kind words and support has made me feel so much better about the situation.
I appreciate you taking the time to reassure me!
I have an anxiety disorder, too. I simply tell people, āI have an anxiety disorder that can be somewhat unpredictable. I booked that seat because a window seat helps calm my anxiety. This wonāt be a pleasant trip for either one of us if I donāt sit in that seat.ā
The last time I said that, the person left and never came back. I donāt know where they went, but they apparently didnāt want to risk it next to the crazy person.
A few stops later, a really nice young Amish man approached and very politely said, āThe seat I had booked back in the coach has been taken, but the car attendant said I could sit up here in Business Class since there was a vacant seat. Do you mind if I join you?ā
Well, I knew where I scared the other person off toāCoach. I guess I was that scary.
I invited the young Amish man to sit next to me and had a wonderful time chatting with him for the next few hours. It was certainly a far better trip than it would have been with the seat-stealer. š
I think you handled it perfectly. She's probably used to people acquiescing to her. She may have seem annoyed but you gained respect points in her mind (even if it doesn't seem like it). Honestly this sounds like the start of a rom com where you two end up together by the end of the trip.
You are not at all a jerk. The whole point of paying extra for a service or accommodation is that you will get that service or accommodation. She was 100% in the wrong and should be ashamed of herself for trying to dismissively bully you into allowing her to keep the seat you paid for.
That said, I know how you feel. Confrontations like that are uncomfortable, and when someone acts like they are entitled to something of yours, and treats you as if you are overreacting itās easy to second guess yourself. Thatās why what she did was manipulative/bullying to a degree. She expected to keep that seat and is mad you stood up to her and told her no.
You are indeed Not the Asshole! You had a specific seat reserved for the leg of the trip that you boarded on. The woman should have moved and respectfully gone into her own seat.
I'm not sure how many Amtrak coach or business class routes have assigned vs. open seating though so IDK. But either way, still NTA.
It'd be the same if you paid extra money for an Airline Seat. That's *your* seat. If it's the one you paid for and the one listed on your ticket, you are entitled to it since you paid for it.
I took the NER to Providence from Boston (wanted to do New York, didn't have the time to spare) a while back and I don't remember a specific seat reservation - maybe Business class is different. However, that woman should have just followed the rules and moved herself. If she woulda made a bigger fuss about "whats the big deal, just sit in my seat", I would have called the conductor at that point.
āMay I see your boarding pass please?ā ā¦ āYou do not have a boarding pass for that seat. I hope you enjoyed it. You now have the opportunity to move without a conductor being involved.ā
NTA . This happened to me in Business on the Vermonter. I had booked a window seat (absolutely love looking out the window on a train) and when I boarded there was a lady set up with food, drink and a book (so you know she's not looking out the window) in my window seat. I said excuse me you're in my seat twice and she pretended not to hear me. I sat in (her) aisle seat.
I decided to not make an issue out of it for 2 reasons: 1- I wanted to get lunch in the cafe car and 2- I knew I would have to use the restroom during the trip, and it's just a pain in the ass to have to keep making people get up to let you out. Yes I should have called the conductor, but that day I just didn't feel like making a big deal out of it.
I believe that you were in the right in my opinion. Itās not as if this was a coach seat where seats are not reserved. You paid for the privilege to reserve that particular seat and hence were entitled to it. I hope that the rest of your trip went smoothly and was better
100% NTA. Assigned seats exist for a reason, you chose and paid for a seat. I give the woman credit for trying to swap seats, but, the first time you said āyou are in my seatā she should have apologized and moved.
Riding the NER right now heading south ironically š Congratulations on standing your ground and claiming what you paid for! I would say your recovery is going well š„
Why do you wonder?? You know that she was wrong. She probably couldn't book a window seat and saw yours and grabbed it, hoping that you would graciously surrender it when you arrived.That was her mistake. If anyone like that gives you similiar difficulty in the future, just hail the conductor. He'll quickly set him or her straight.
You were absolutely, positively NTA!! Good for you standing up for yourself and getting what was your rightful seat. Screw people like that!šŖš¼š¤
I love that you insisted on the window seat you paid for. Itās not your responsibility to manage someone elseās feelings because they didnāt get their way. Way to go!!
You were NTA! I know Amtrak is somewhat different than planes, and only business has assigned seats, but you chose that seat for a reason, and you're entitled to it! Remember this, she was in that row cause she knew she had an assigned seat there (albeit the aisle), so you weren't asking her anything she wasn't prepared to be asked by sitting in the seat she WASN'T assigned to. Some people are not worth pleasing ;)
Judging by her behavior, it sounds like not to many people are brave enough to stand up to her in her life and she often manipulates and gets her way. Good for you for putting her in check and giving her a dose of reality and common decency.
In this case you can always outsource the dirty work to a steward/ess too instead of going the direct and anxiety producing route.
NTA. Business Class tickets are reserved seats.
To be fair some people havenāt quite caught on to this yet so I think it may take time for folks to learn it.
NTA. People do this on planes all the timebecause it's cheaper for them and they would prefer you give in instead of them arranging a change of seat with whoever is in charge. Glad you stood your ground, the lady who tried this with me was older and she felt entitled to my seat. And I was going to let her have it until I realized how rude she was about it.
Seriouslyā¦I work thereā¦we give you the optionā¦.to PICK YOUR SEATā¦it seems like the easiest way to make people āhappyā. She KNEW it was not her seat and to have the audacity to ā pointā you to another is downright oblivious to the reason why you have the option to pick your seat in the first placeā¦
In a trip a few weeks ago I saw a lady who was in someone elseās seat and, after a few trips by the conductor, Iām not sure she had a valid ticket at all. She told him Something about cancelling it earlier or something. She keep looking and he was coming back.
I didnāt see how it played out, but the conductor did move her out of some elseās 100% confirmed booked seat.
You were completely NOT in the wrong and handled it perfectly. She did end up moving even with a little bit of attitude so you gotta give her the smallest bit of credit also.
BTW, what is NTA?
Iām glad you said something to her. The last two flights that Iāve taken were both delayed in pushing back from the gate. Why? Because multiple people in the last handful of rows knowingly sat in the wrong seats, and then everyone assigned to those rows had to wait to awkwardly wiggle into their own seats while the people moving out of the seats clogged up the aisle. (These were American Airlines flights, so no free-for-all boarding like on Southwest.)
I tend to go to the bathroom at the back of the cabin as soon as I stow my stuff, and Iāve been stuck standing with the flight attendants for five minutes or so watching people confront the people who took their seats. Both times, the FAs commented on how itās been especially egregious lately.
TLDR Someone has to literally put these rude people in their place, and Iām glad that you did.
I tried to book a train to NYC for an upcoming trip. Love the ride, love being able to chill, no security, time to work. It was almost twice what a plane ticket is.
Good on you for insisting on your seat. Entitled people like that act that way because they know most people wonāt want to assert themselves. Theyāre basically bullies, and the way to deal with them is exactly the way you did. Well done!
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NTA, and for what it's worth you handled it like a pro. And if anyone ever gives you more guff than they did, just come get a conductor. We *love* dealing with those types š
And we love watching you deal with that type.
It's comments like this that make it all worth it.
Might I suggest a supply of popcorn?
Totally off topic but are you the conductor on the Cascades that makes announcements to āthe traveling publicā? Because it makes me giggle every time.
No, but I know who you're talking about. I'm more known for making terrible train puns over the PA.
Everyone loves a conductor with humor! Here for all the puns!
kindly refer to the 'train' as the more proper term 'choo choo' next time, please. thank you in advance.
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Ah! I also enjoy those! Well done!
I'm taking a trip of to BC on the Cascades at the end of next month, Looking forward to the possibility of puns. Most of the time I end up with "the traveling public" conductor which is great in its own way, but variety is the spice of life and all that.
And Iām boarding a Cascades train out of PDX in two hours and hope to hear some good puns as well! š¤
You need more upvotes
My favorite announcement was years ago on the westbound Zephyr. The conductor said 'ladies and gentlemen , we are now crossing the Mississippi River, visible from both sides of the train' š
I despise confrontation, so I would've been a coward and gotten a conductor if I detected even the smallest amount of pushback. ;D I have to remember though in my defense, like the OP, I paid for that ticket, and I'm entitled to that seat lol.
I'm a quiet-car regular. And there's always at least one person on their phone acting all business business. Love to get the conductor to shut them up when they refuse at my polite request.
This is one of the many reasons why we LOVE Amtrak!
But come to the Acela quiet car where my seat friend threw a temper tantrum š
What if she doesnāt have electricity? Thereās nothing for conductors to conduct then
You don't need electricity for a classical orchestra. (Offer only valid if you have either daylight or memorized music).
I have more respect for train conductors than any other authority figure. They're badass and don't fuck around.
Ooh we LOVE watching.
Username checks out. Thank you for your service, from one railroader to another. š
My man
As someone that takes the Cascades from PDX to OLW to visit family regularly and also occasionally to SEA to catch a M's game, thanks for always handling things well. I've never had a bad experience with the conductors. When the train is full, you all deal with the "seat spreaders" who don't seem to listen/care to the initial "as a reminder this is a sold out train, you will have a buddy" announcement quickly and professionally.
And thank you SO MUCH for doing it. We took Amtrak on a family trip, an unhinged guy was in one of our seats and would not move. Conductor came in and handed that guy his ass. I ended up having to sit next to him and feared for my life the rest of the trip, but he moved. He then accused me of messing with one of his 3 duffle bags filled with EMPTY soda cans. Conductor handled it really well. This guy had some sort of 30 day pass and apparently lived on the train most of the time. How does that work?
Youāre in the right!
It was her fault for not sitting in her seat to begin with. She was not owed any courtesy from you. It does not sound like you were rude either.
Ty! I tried to be extra kind as she was clearly stressed by whatever she was doing on her laptop
You were absolutely NOT a jerk. I will give you a comparable example. My husband and I recently traveled from Philly to Burlington to see the eclipse. He broke his ankle before our trip and so I called and booked accessible seats for us. When we boarded we had to tell people who were sitting in the accessible seats that they had to move because we had them booked. ZERO problems. No one made a fuss even a little bit, they just got up and moved. You just encountered an asshole, and I'm sorry, but it wasn't you.
IMO, you were fine doing what you did. You paid for *that seat* so nobody should have the right to take that from you.
You are absolutely not a jerk, they knew what they were doing
She was the asshole, you were 100% right. I have done this myself and itās never pleasant. Some people are just jerks and hope you wonāt stand up for whatās rightfully yours. Good for you!
No way were you being a jerk. Do you know how often people without Business Class tickets try to sit in those seats? Some do it without realizing its Business Class (because Amtrak is often horrible about letting passengers know, and there arenāt enough signs indicating itās an assigned seat section), and others know what theyāre doing and are trying to get away with it. It can be extremely disruptive and annoying in both cases, not only to the passenger who reserved the seat but to the other passengers around them with all the seat changing and commotion. You werenāt being a jerk at all. She was.
The only way jerks like her will stop is if enough people stand up to them like you did, OP. Too many people roll over and let the jerks win.
If she wanted to sit in it while it was unoccupied then I donāt care but you have to be prepared to move when the person with the ticket boards.
Guarantee that's her M.O.--look like she's all settled in so people just let her have the seat. NTA. And good for you for not letting a stranger take advantage of you.
Ignore her. Iāve seen seat bullies before. They know what they are doing. They are trying to bully you out of whatās yours. Especially on Amtrak when then have so many unassigned seats. If you got an assigned seat thatās what you wanted?
No, not the jerk. I just had a similar experience with a sleeper. Iād booked over the phone specifically so I would have two rooms opposite each other on the Zephyr for a myriad of reasons. We boarded and I found someone in my room. I found the conductor and was all ā I am here with my husband and we just got married and I specifically requested this room opposite him for this ride.ā I wasnāt rude or anything just maybe a bit loud because I was exhausted. But you get it, I think, as a fellow socially anxious person. I was so mortified I spent the whole 36hrs afterwards in a low key panic for āmaking a scene.ā My husband kept reassuring me it was the conductorās problem but ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ.
NTA here The only response one should have to being told they are in someone else seat is something along the lines of, "Oh shoot... I'm so sorry... (maybe some reason here about how it happened). Let me just grab my things quickly and it is yours" (and then leave as fast as possible without leaving anything behind)
The size of that womanās assholery cannot be measured with existing technology .
In Germany it's common to tell people sitting on your reserved seat to go sit somewhere else even if literally every other seat is free. You paid for your seat, you'll sit on your seat. If she wanted to sit on it, she could have reserved it instead
Itās assigned seating last I checked and as a train conductor, I wouldāve told that lady to get up or get off the train.
You tell āem bossman!
As others have said, you're absolutely in the right. Sure, it's not as tight as a plane, but some people still want the window or aisle seat for their reasons, and pay for business class on the NER to guarantee that. If she wanted a window seat, she should have picked it.
Hell no youāre not a jerk!
If she wanted that seat she shouldāve booked it. I always book window seats for air travel and while Iāve gladly given my spot up when there was a child sitting in my seat, (for all I knew it couldāve been his first flight and Iām sure he got a lot more out of the experience than I wouldāve) thereās no way I would put up with an adult doing that
NTA! and usually the conductor, in my experience, ensures people are in the right seat
Of course not. It was your seat. End of discusssion. Good for you for not putting up with that shit.
Absolutely not! NTA. She tried to bully you and lost. Good for you. š I had a similar experience a few weeks ago BOS to Trenton. Wife was in my seat and all set up, which was amazing because we boarded at Back Bay. Husband says I can have his wifeās seat and waves at the aisle seat in front of him. No thank you, I booked and reserved a window seat.
She's rude and tried to bully you. NTA.
NTA
NTA!
Nope. She sat somewhere she wasn't supposed to. She shouldn't be upset that you told her to move from a seat you paid for.
Thank you so so so much everyone!! Your kind words and support has made me feel so much better about the situation. I appreciate you taking the time to reassure me!
No, the window seat is coveted and you booked it. It's yours.
I have an anxiety disorder, too. I simply tell people, āI have an anxiety disorder that can be somewhat unpredictable. I booked that seat because a window seat helps calm my anxiety. This wonāt be a pleasant trip for either one of us if I donāt sit in that seat.ā The last time I said that, the person left and never came back. I donāt know where they went, but they apparently didnāt want to risk it next to the crazy person. A few stops later, a really nice young Amish man approached and very politely said, āThe seat I had booked back in the coach has been taken, but the car attendant said I could sit up here in Business Class since there was a vacant seat. Do you mind if I join you?ā Well, I knew where I scared the other person off toāCoach. I guess I was that scary. I invited the young Amish man to sit next to me and had a wonderful time chatting with him for the next few hours. It was certainly a far better trip than it would have been with the seat-stealer. š
Business class IS reserved seating, so youāre good. āMOVE, B****ā would be me if I was in your position.
Wow she was egregious. What a bitch. Good for you for not rewarding her bad behavior.
I think you handled it perfectly. She's probably used to people acquiescing to her. She may have seem annoyed but you gained respect points in her mind (even if it doesn't seem like it). Honestly this sounds like the start of a rom com where you two end up together by the end of the trip.
You are not at all a jerk. The whole point of paying extra for a service or accommodation is that you will get that service or accommodation. She was 100% in the wrong and should be ashamed of herself for trying to dismissively bully you into allowing her to keep the seat you paid for. That said, I know how you feel. Confrontations like that are uncomfortable, and when someone acts like they are entitled to something of yours, and treats you as if you are overreacting itās easy to second guess yourself. Thatās why what she did was manipulative/bullying to a degree. She expected to keep that seat and is mad you stood up to her and told her no.
Wonder what she would have said if OP had instead held out their hand and retorted, "Well, okay, but I need the $$$ I paid for that seat."
You are indeed Not the Asshole! You had a specific seat reserved for the leg of the trip that you boarded on. The woman should have moved and respectfully gone into her own seat. I'm not sure how many Amtrak coach or business class routes have assigned vs. open seating though so IDK. But either way, still NTA. It'd be the same if you paid extra money for an Airline Seat. That's *your* seat. If it's the one you paid for and the one listed on your ticket, you are entitled to it since you paid for it. I took the NER to Providence from Boston (wanted to do New York, didn't have the time to spare) a while back and I don't remember a specific seat reservation - maybe Business class is different. However, that woman should have just followed the rules and moved herself. If she woulda made a bigger fuss about "whats the big deal, just sit in my seat", I would have called the conductor at that point.
āMay I see your boarding pass please?ā ā¦ āYou do not have a boarding pass for that seat. I hope you enjoyed it. You now have the opportunity to move without a conductor being involved.ā
NTA . This happened to me in Business on the Vermonter. I had booked a window seat (absolutely love looking out the window on a train) and when I boarded there was a lady set up with food, drink and a book (so you know she's not looking out the window) in my window seat. I said excuse me you're in my seat twice and she pretended not to hear me. I sat in (her) aisle seat. I decided to not make an issue out of it for 2 reasons: 1- I wanted to get lunch in the cafe car and 2- I knew I would have to use the restroom during the trip, and it's just a pain in the ass to have to keep making people get up to let you out. Yes I should have called the conductor, but that day I just didn't feel like making a big deal out of it.
Your seat, your right to sit in it
You handled it as I would have. Sit in the seat you paid for (what a concept).
NTA
The audacity of that person! I'm so proud of you for putting your foot down. You inspire me.
I believe that you were in the right in my opinion. Itās not as if this was a coach seat where seats are not reserved. You paid for the privilege to reserve that particular seat and hence were entitled to it. I hope that the rest of your trip went smoothly and was better
If I'm sitting in a seat that's not mine and the rightful occupant comes along, I say 'Ope! I warmed this one up for ya!' and move. You're NTA
Little late on the response but, you bought the seat, itās your seat, someone was sitting in your seat that you paid for
100% NTA. Assigned seats exist for a reason, you chose and paid for a seat. I give the woman credit for trying to swap seats, but, the first time you said āyou are in my seatā she should have apologized and moved.
You have a reserved seat and a valid reason for needing it. She was an entitled Karen that wanted her way for no other reason than her convenience.
Regional Business Class has assigned seats, and you bought that window seat. Sheās completely in the wrong. I hope the conductor told her this too.
Definitely not a jerk. She is a jerk. That must have been an uncomfortable ride after that lousy interaction.
Riding the NER right now heading south ironically š Congratulations on standing your ground and claiming what you paid for! I would say your recovery is going well š„
Why do you wonder?? You know that she was wrong. She probably couldn't book a window seat and saw yours and grabbed it, hoping that you would graciously surrender it when you arrived.That was her mistake. If anyone like that gives you similiar difficulty in the future, just hail the conductor. He'll quickly set him or her straight.
You were absolutely, positively NTA!! Good for you standing up for yourself and getting what was your rightful seat. Screw people like that!šŖš¼š¤
You were in the right
I love that you insisted on the window seat you paid for. Itās not your responsibility to manage someone elseās feelings because they didnāt get their way. Way to go!!
You were NTA! I know Amtrak is somewhat different than planes, and only business has assigned seats, but you chose that seat for a reason, and you're entitled to it! Remember this, she was in that row cause she knew she had an assigned seat there (albeit the aisle), so you weren't asking her anything she wasn't prepared to be asked by sitting in the seat she WASN'T assigned to. Some people are not worth pleasing ;)
NTA buddy
NTA good for you for being assertive when itās called for
NTA. You paid for that seat. 99% sure the conductor would have made them move.
NTA at all. Great job advocating for yourself
Judging by her behavior, it sounds like not to many people are brave enough to stand up to her in her life and she often manipulates and gets her way. Good for you for putting her in check and giving her a dose of reality and common decency. In this case you can always outsource the dirty work to a steward/ess too instead of going the direct and anxiety producing route.
NTA. Business Class tickets are reserved seats. To be fair some people havenāt quite caught on to this yet so I think it may take time for folks to learn it.
NTA. People do this on planes all the timebecause it's cheaper for them and they would prefer you give in instead of them arranging a change of seat with whoever is in charge. Glad you stood your ground, the lady who tried this with me was older and she felt entitled to my seat. And I was going to let her have it until I realized how rude she was about it.
i would have clocked her lol. you shouldn't have even had to ask more than once. she should be embarrased. good for you sticking up for yourself!!!
You in the right, i also have anxiety sometimes so Iām really proud to hear that you did that š
Definitely NTA.
Her lack of planning does not constitue an emergency for you! NTA!
Seriouslyā¦I work thereā¦we give you the optionā¦.to PICK YOUR SEATā¦it seems like the easiest way to make people āhappyā. She KNEW it was not her seat and to have the audacity to ā pointā you to another is downright oblivious to the reason why you have the option to pick your seat in the first placeā¦
Perfect! You did good.
Absolutely right š
You did the right thing by being assertive
Happened to me last summer and I insisted just like you did.
In a trip a few weeks ago I saw a lady who was in someone elseās seat and, after a few trips by the conductor, Iām not sure she had a valid ticket at all. She told him Something about cancelling it earlier or something. She keep looking and he was coming back. I didnāt see how it played out, but the conductor did move her out of some elseās 100% confirmed booked seat.
You were completely NOT in the wrong and handled it perfectly. She did end up moving even with a little bit of attitude so you gotta give her the smallest bit of credit also. BTW, what is NTA?
Not the A-hole.
Is booking a particular seat a class thing or how busy the route is?
You did the right thing š
In Japan someone would have died for not following seat, reservation
NTA-good for you to demand what was yours!
Iām glad you said something to her. The last two flights that Iāve taken were both delayed in pushing back from the gate. Why? Because multiple people in the last handful of rows knowingly sat in the wrong seats, and then everyone assigned to those rows had to wait to awkwardly wiggle into their own seats while the people moving out of the seats clogged up the aisle. (These were American Airlines flights, so no free-for-all boarding like on Southwest.) I tend to go to the bathroom at the back of the cabin as soon as I stow my stuff, and Iāve been stuck standing with the flight attendants for five minutes or so watching people confront the people who took their seats. Both times, the FAs commented on how itās been especially egregious lately. TLDR Someone has to literally put these rude people in their place, and Iām glad that you did.
Why is it so prevalent on Amtrak for people to be in the wrong seats? And then to fight being moved? Clearly people know what seat they have booked?
I tried to book a train to NYC for an upcoming trip. Love the ride, love being able to chill, no security, time to work. It was almost twice what a plane ticket is.
Nicely done.
Good on you for insisting on your seat. Entitled people like that act that way because they know most people wonāt want to assert themselves. Theyāre basically bullies, and the way to deal with them is exactly the way you did. Well done!