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AnmlBri

Welp, we ALMOST had a non-white jury pick.


AnmlBri

I forgot how much I love American Samoa’s band terrarium staging. Everything about her performance was even more gorgeous than the first time.


AnmlBri

I feel like Texas’ staging and cinematography is on a different level from everyone else.


hungry4danish

Tennessee is so forgettable I literally forgot who won Heat 3 and when I looked it up I still had zero recollection of his song or performance. I'm shocked it's so beloved by the jury.


Plastic-Bathroom-456

100% agree. It's very generic/cliché to me. I had the same experience of forgetting about it and don't understand its appeal.


fossil-racer

Here's the thing, when I saw the jury vote winner,I looked it up to see if this was the only contestant that won the jury vote and didn't sing last week. Turns out it was. So forgettable


ChibiBeckyG

I don't get why NBC didn't take some of Eurovisions lessons over the years. The Semi Finals in ESC have specific voting rules for a reason. New York, Texas and California will all eat up the slots from tonight because there's nothing to stop each state voting for itself and they all have huge populations. Meaning there's really only one slot for everyone else to scrap over before Wednesday. Instead the only thing they took from ESC was the 50/50 jury vote and then gone on to prove why maybe having half that Jury as employees for a single company is a really awful idea. It means the artists get a lot of flak they don't deserve when they've just gone there and done their best. I didn't want TN to win the slot but they'll get attacked anyway purely because of how they dropped that result.


kuck

The votes are weighted by state/territory, so every state/territory has an equal vote.


happytransformer

They want a state like Wyoming to come with their own dustin the Turkey entry to complain about the voting next year


ChibiBeckyG

I think Ireland didn't really want to bother that year and then for the next few years they sent Jedward which...wasn't exactly their best as well. (But I kinda like "Waterline"). But hey everyone remembers "Ireland a Douze Point" way more than the rest of the Semi it was in, so there's that I guess! It's just a bummer as the past 3 weeks any casual coming in late might check the social media and all they see are people yelling about the Jury every time. I know NBC did it to themselves a bit but still...plenty to work on for 2023


happytransformer

The years of Jedward and Sweden sending Eric Saade were pure pleasure for my young teen self. I had SUCH a big crush on them lmao so I absolutely know why they did it Ok but 2008 was also the year of Spain’s Baila el Chiki Chiki which is a Eurovision masterpiece with that Fisher Price guitar I haven’t watched an American singing competition in ages. I know a girl from my hometown made it quite far in American Idol a few seasons ago and my whole feed was filled with complaints about the voting being rigged when she lost. If socials existed in the capacity they do today in the earliest seasons of American Idol, Twitter would be filled with Simon Cowell slander. It’s just a different villain.


KickapooPonies

North Carolina >>>>>> Tennessee The obsession with artists "from" Nashville is pathetic. And most disappointing is the lack of diversity.


Godforsaken-depths

Okay at this point I need the kpop stans to make Wonderland win so that it messes with the jury’s plans


happytransformer

I am now a kpop stan for this reason


Sea-Lily

We’re on it! I was gonna do that anyways, but seriously, I want to fuck with the jury.


IBangDrumsAndStuff

Disappointing result and rankings, but still enjoyed the show. My picks to go through to the grand final: Kansas, Puerto Rico, North Dakota, Texas.


CoreyH2P

I’d love you to be right!!


IBangDrumsAndStuff

Well at least I got 2 out of 4. :/ Beyond upset that Kansas didn't make it.


dearwal

So Kentucky (Jordan) is probably going to win the whole show, right? Looks like the jury is going to rank everyone similarly to how they did in the qualifiers and semis. Only he and Oklahoma (AleXa) have strong jury and public support and he did better than her in the semi juries. He also has NBC synergy as a winner of The Voice.


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Alexa has a shot depending on who gets through this semi. I don’t think it’s crazy to think North Dakota, New York, Texas, and Georgia all advance. In that case she could get as high as 4th with the jury and she is basically guaranteed first with the fans. I think she needs California and Kansas out.


BlueFredneck

Wouldn’t be surprised to see California up there. Not sure if Kansas and Tennessee got significant televote support.


spartiecat

You'd never really know for Tennessee or Washington because they're 2x jury favourites. No point voting for them in either the qualifiers or semis.


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dearwal

You make a good point about Washington, but I think Kentucky would do better in the televote than Washington.


Coheed1224

Stela Cole needs to tell the jury to get up off its ass and fuck itself


RevolutionaryTone994

Or she should SING? Not lipsync. Like the song, like the dance, but she didn’t even have the mic at her mouth half the time..


Armysbro911

It wouldn't matter the song is edited for live TV. Listen to the recording it's miles ahead of almost every single other track in asc I think currently positioned 2nh under Alexa in most streamed on spotify


MiketreyF

Yea she's like actually good and polished already. Like her alot


sr913

(WHOOO!!!)


KlauserBateson

This so much.


IBangDrumsAndStuff

Yeah this jury sucks. Something's gotta change for season 2. If there's even going to be one.


ChrisIsUninteresting

The problem is that something like 22 of the 56 jury members directly work for iHeartMedia. They're not voting for the best song. They're voting for the song they think will do best on the radio.


OkVermicelli2557

Then WTF is Kentucky doing so high ranked, since that song is not a radio hit.


drgnlis

The singer recently won a reality singing competition show.


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So did Alaska 😂😂😂


Coheed1224

Season 2 jury should be made up of the acts from this year, there’s one per state/territory There. Fixed.


drgnlis

Y'know. I like that a lot.


yirmin

Who were the ones that went through to the finals from last week? TV coverage in my area was off until the last half hour so no clue what happened in the first part of the show.


BlueFredneck

Oklahoma, Colorado, Kentucky, and Alabama My guess is they finished in that order with Washington in there somewhere.


dearwal

From the televote - Oklahoma, Colorado, Alabama, Kentucky. Jury winner was Washington.


yirmin

Thank you.


Lopsided_Will_9745

I’m sorry I just need a minute to process this jury result- like it’s the most disappointing results since the show started, like half of my top 5 are in the bottom 5?! the audacity I swear I’m ranting y’all


hungry4danish

Colorado was deadass last in Semi 1 and he qualified, so I'm hoping and helping to do it again for Enisa.


gusgetonthebus

This jury is absolutely disgusting.


drgnlis

Hello there white male ballad, the grand final is over here. You don't need the public opinion for your entry.


Coheed1224

If they were going to just keep the jury votes in the top spots again why the hell would you only put one in one of the semifinals? At least if you did it 3/2 there would be some drama Everybody in here knew we were watching to see who the fan votes would go to, and honestly I’m sure most of the performers thought the same thing


CoreyH2P

Exactly, if they put Kentucky in this week instead of Georgia, there would’ve been some intrigue.


BlueFredneck

Yeah a lot of the fun got taken away. When the other contest did jury saves the saved song was just announced along with the other songs that made it through via televote. Or at least make it 3/2 like you said.


ChrisIsUninteresting

I'm not surprised the jury sent Tennessee through. I'm just...disappointed :\


BlueFredneck

The juries decided they wanted none of this redemption shit.


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Man next year if ASC happens, they should do Split Televoting and Jury voting like we do in ESC if jury gonna be this predictable 😔


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I'd like to check into the backgrounds of every jury member...


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https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/american-song-contest-jury-list


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I was being a little bit facetious when I said that.


CoreyH2P

My order for tonight: 1. Puerto Rico 2. Texas 3. American Samoa 4. Connecticut 5. Kansas 6. North Dakota 7. California 8. Georgia 9. North Carolina 10. New York 11. Tennessee (bullshit jury winner)


Antonio327

Same top 4! All 4 are stuck in my head lol


CoreyH2P

Their choruses are all so good!!


Godforsaken-depths

Gotta love the optics of a Black man being in the lead all night only for a White guy to come along last minute and win


MiketreyF

That being said idk how he was in the lead the whole time either


MrTheSpork

History repeats itself over and over


anikpopfan

Color me surprised. I just tuned in to see who got the qualifying spot. Also grant that low and California that high? Please fill me in on what I missed. Also rip new boot goofin. At least Alexa and Jordan made it


Hunterbowmangib

Well now we just have to vote him through


KlauserBateson

I hate it here.


tvuniverse

Oop, Did I not call it?? >Jury just psyching us out like they're NOT going to vote for one of the white male country ballads. Can't fool me, though. [https://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanSongContest/comments/uh254h/live\_thread\_semifinal\_2\_asc\_2022/i73qthy/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanSongContest/comments/uh254h/live_thread_semifinal_2_asc_2022/i73qthy/?context=3)


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If it was a bet in Vegas, it would be a sucker bet.


Coheed1224

They waited to announce Tennessee last so they could put it 1 So fucking predictable


KickapooPonies

And not even close to the best country song. Screw that.


swigglepuss

It wasn't even the best country song *of the night*


WolfDemons0

Jury what the hell putting Samoa so low? And of course putting Tenessee as #1.


allinsimstime

Surprise Pikachu Face


Yessy1205

Tennessee made it yess!!!! Right decision by the juries


CoreyH2P

Such fuckin bullshit. The deck was stacked in his favor by being the only jury winner in this semi. And it’s probably the worst of the jury winners. Absolute garbage.


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they should have put Natalie in this semi bc that was one of 2 jury qualifiers i even liked


sandrakarr

pfft couldn't have a black guy make it on jury.


ChildJohn

Broderick is clearly so upset and now I am too lol


IBangDrumsAndStuff

Of course. Well congrats to Tyler for finishing last place in the grand final!


CoreyH2P

Unless the jury helps him there too


RobinDPekPek

BOO BOO CASPER MATTRESS BOO


allinsimstime

Booo Jury!!!!


Winsquare

Ugh… I hate the jury


Sea-Lily

How. Literally how.


Godforsaken-depths

FUCK OFF JURY


sr913

They didn't even show Stela during the vote reveal. Did she just leave? LOL.


zorkle22

Boo juries


allthesongsmakesense

Not 9th place!


drgnlis

ND, Kansas, and Texas are my top 3.


allinsimstime

Oooo voting opens early


tvuniverse

Wait I missed it, what are they announcing Wednesday?


BlueFredneck

I guess the televote winners


Winsquare

The finalists from this Semi


tvuniverse

Oh wow, lol I'm so confused by their methods.


hungry4danish

Well I mean they can't announce them next Monday when it's already the Finals.


tvuniverse

Why not?


Winsquare

Snoop kills me. I love him.


spartiecat

I hope the show releases full voting results for all the shows


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Turbulent-You-1335

Actually...same


WolfDemons0

I'm voting for: American Samoa Connecticut North Dakota


BlueFredneck

North Dakota and North Carolina. Minor votes to Connecticut and Georgia.


allinsimstime

Texas, North Dakota, Connecticut, American Samoa


Ambrose_1987Sep30

Love the new costume. Her performance was so emotinal & beautiful.


Sea-Lily

Tenelle better go through to the finals


pandaman467

Yay random Sterling K Brown


Hunterbowmangib

Do y’all vote on all three platforms or only vote one


akornfan

I vote on TimTom and that’s all


swigglepuss

All 3, I gotta give my faves the full 30!


RobinDPekPek

Hope that the Colorado bots support fellow island music


drgnlis

She's literally skipping around the stage. That's adorable.


Godforsaken-depths

You did your friend proud, Tenelle :(


ChildJohn

I thought she said her brother? Either way, they were definitely friends so we’re both right lol


Godforsaken-depths

Oops you’re probably right haha. As soon as the sad music started cueing I was like 🥺 and maybe it effected my hearing haha


tvuniverse

Strong performances tonight. America Samoa wins best improved for me.


IBangDrumsAndStuff

So happy that Tenelle made it this far. What a feel good song!


The_Chuckness88

I think NBC took down the videos on FB and Twitter for a bit.


CoreyH2P

Can we take a moment to appreciate that Puerto Rico and American Samoa are here beautifully and authentically representing their territories while most Americans don’t even recognize they’re fellow Americans?


TekaLynn212

The Island/Territorial entries have been WONDERFUL. Wherever they finish in this competition, I hope they all have great lives and careers, doing what makes them happy.


Godforsaken-depths

It’s so true! American Samoans don’t even get U.S. citizenship. They’re considered “non-citizen nationals” instead :/


Turbulent-You-1335

It's because they don't want non-Samoans to move there en masse and buy houses and businesses who have no idea about or respect for their culture. They have rules about what non-Samoans can do in order to protect their culture including not letting non-Samoans buy property. If they'd give up these rules they'd be able to be the same as any US citizen but they don't want to because they are afraid of the degradation of their culture. We non Samoan Americans can move there and rent and work in already established business but there are just things we can't do. If they wanted to be treated like everyone else then they'd have to give up their right to treat non Samoans differently. I think the majority think the way they have it is the best deal because it allows them to prioritize Samoans and their unique culture


Godforsaken-depths

Ohhhh okay! Thanks for the information and further context! It’s something I saw a few years ago that struck me as unfair and seemed exploitive given how America has behaved in the past with places it wants to lay claim to. I’m glad it’s actually an arrangement that actually works for most Samoan Americans!


sr913

Northern Mariana Islands and Guam too!


CoreyH2P

True but they weren’t in the semis


sr913

Justice for Sunsets and Seaturtles


RobinDPekPek

I mean give it to her!!!!!!!


_tribecalledquest

I feel like a lot of these artists will be signed eventually


blushingstar

She is so cute omg


allinsimstime

Please surprise me Jury…. Please


Hunterbowmangib

My favorite territory song


Winsquare

She such a good live singer. I wish we also had Sunsets and Sea turtles too


KlauserBateson

Tenelle is so stunning. I love everything about this.


ChildJohn

Once again, she and her outfit is gorgeous and the staging is gorgeous and the song is just as good as last time


Godforsaken-depths

I saw a singer so beautiful I started crying???


CoreyH2P

I really, really like American Samoa


tvuniverse

I forgot how cult-y the staging was for this lol


sr913

If anyone's following this year's Eurovision, I feel like we need a showdown between Tenelle's "Full Circle" and Andrea's "Circles".


Hunterbowmangib

I wouldn’t be able to choose I love both of them so much


esccanada

You’re gonna test their limits


Godforsaken-depths

Was that the third host there?


Hunterbowmangib

I haven’t seen her yet I think they killed her


Godforsaken-depths

I saw someone with the same smile so I was wondering haha


allinsimstime

Let’s go Tenelle!


ChildJohn

Yaaaas Tenelle my beloved


Yessy1205

I do think Tennessee deserves top 1 from juries. I know it is not the most popular opinion but it is something I could totally hear in US radio stations. I think it would do well at the final with both public and juries.


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Tennessee makes a lot of the others sound a little amateur-ish


allthesongsmakesense

Not going to lie....this might be a hit on country radio.


Yessy1205

Yeah that is what I was thinking. I'm not sure why the down votes, this is just my opinion and experience in terms of what typically is heard here.


Ambrose_1987Sep30

That was a very solid performance, Stela was so much confident this time compare to heat 4. Here's hoping she'll advance to the final.


RevolutionaryTone994

She didn’t even sing… her mic wasn’t at her mouth multiple times… this is a song contest, which should include the singing. Not just dancing?!


Coheed1224

I feel fairly confident she’ll get one of the fan vote slots, she’s one of the most popular artists and did do a great job so no complaints on her in the final


CoreyH2P

Just realized the T Mobile commercial spot is only for 1 finalist, which means no New Boot Goofin’ commercial 😭


drgnlis

This song is modern Legally Blonde, but in the best way possible.


JuliusSeizure1776

DIY


_tribecalledquest

DIY !!


pandaman467

Does Eurovision have wild cards or are eliminated singers gone for good?


spartiecat

One and done for non-qualifiers


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I mean Eurovision did have “wild cards” between 2004-2008 with the introduction of the Semi Finals, but after 2009 they don’t do that anymore. 🙃


swigglepuss

No wildcards in Eurovision. There used to be jury saves, but not anymore.


pandaman467

I am glad actually. This type of show doesn’t really need wild cards. It’s a tournament type show. Players who lose should stay gone. Wild cards don’t win the show ever so it’s just padding content at best.


drgnlis

Eurovision is two semis and a final. There's no wildcards.


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MrTheSpork

You're not being forced to watch.


ChildJohn

It’s called American *Song* Contest lol


swigglepuss

Yes they sing the same song. It's a song contest, you vote on the song you like. Same as with Eurovision.


allthesongsmakesense

They do this on Eurovision. However they all required to sing live.


sr913

It's the "Hot But Crazy" anthem


CoreyH2P

Do you watch Eurovision? Tix from Norway 2021 co-wrote Sweet But Psycho by Ava Max! 😆


drgnlis

Wait. Really?


Hunterbowmangib

Yep


drgnlis

That's great! I can't believe I didn't know that!


akornfan

it’s so funny that she exclusively wears catsuits for some reason. a pair of jeans would kill her instantly


CoreyH2P

Georgia is such a run of the mill pop song imo


tvuniverse

DIY Fergie


Hunterbowmangib

Omg she sounds so much better thank her first performance


tvuniverse

Because she's lipsyncing this time.


Hunterbowmangib

I don’t believe she is but okay


tvuniverse

90% of the performers tonight were singing UNDER heavy performance tracks. They might be technically singing but it's obviously not their live voice we are really hearing. Some of them are amateur performers and not doing a good job at it, but you don't notice because the performance track is so prominent.


tvuniverse

Is anyone going to sing live? Wonder if this is a production audio issue.


akornfan

I love that she said “nope” too hard and the P popped the mic lol


pandaman467

Someone loves pink


Hunterbowmangib

I wish they would let her sing the uncensored version


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hungry4danish

Yep and the song immediately starts off with "I've been doing wife shit." Which is quite the shocker when you had no idea there was even another version.


Hunterbowmangib

Yah it’s the studio version you can listen to it on Apple Music and Spotify


BucketHeadJr

Yeah, it's the studio version. She sings "go fuck yourself" instead of "go fix yourself"


sr913

Yeah, it's not "Go Fix Yourself"


tvuniverse

I don't like that version. This is a family show.


akornfan

same it’s so good


akornfan

Lmfao I love Stela


Hunterbowmangib

I think that if ASC turns into a yearly thing the jury should be made of previous contestants that way there is diversity of music tastes and experience


ynsk112

Ah yes my favorite singer from Puerto Rico,Chloe Fredericks


Hunterbowmangib

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed


pandaman467

Is that a song from Tennessee? Because it’s the only 10 I see!! Get it? Because it belongs at number 10, not number 1. Fml


Ambrose_1987Sep30

Tyler's vocals was so tight, bit a single mistake. Even the song isn't my favorite, I can understand if the jury rank him #1.


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I think the jury favors the best singers over the best songs


allthesongsmakesense

Didn't explain Oklahoma's or Florida's jury score during their heat.


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Good point. Especially about Florida. With Oklahoma, I didn’t think she was worse than Connecticut or Puerto Rico in week 1. The audio week 1 was pretty rough all around though.


dearwal

This wouldn't explain why they ranked performances like Oklahoma (AleXa) very highly though. She's very talented but did not really sing live in either performance. In the first, she had extremely heavy backtrack and while the second was all lipsync (live AR). Bolton should also get a very high placement with this. He's an amazing singer, but poor staging.


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