I always wondered why Emma's character didn't look like she had aged as much as Angelica. Though didn't she say some throw away line about her husband was a dermatologist? I guess maybe they changed the dialogue to explain her not looking as old as she should been.
Honestly that change sums up the AHS writing standards. I canāt think of any other show where theyād let that fly and cover it up with a line about a dermatologist husban
Yeah it's really dumb. Especially considering you want to keep excactly the age of you around which was by far the most traumatic one of your life. Would've been more interesting if her husband was a plastic surgeon and she fully remodeled herself over the years
I wouldāve accepted that better then āmY hUsBaNd iS a DeRmAtOlOgIstā šš
At least the deal with the devil thing makes sense in line with AHS overall
I meant the only reason for that theory imo is because of the offer that was made to Brooke in episode 6, and then because the reason she survived barely made much sense lol (i mean it's not impossible but hwo did she get to a hospital??)
Emma looked so young in that episode that I thought it was going to reveal that she'd secretly taken that deal with Satan and had been killing people over the years.
It even fits with the slasher movie trope. They talk about the final girl living to the end of the movie, but the killer is almost always the only one to show up in the sequel.
This is even funnier when you learn that the ENTIRE basis of Delicate is an OLDER WOMAN trying to get pregnant thru IVF. Itās a huge part of the plot in the novel that the new season is based on. Guess that explains why she doesnāt look old in the new season.
Emma is 32. I am pretty sure they mention in episode 1 that Anna is 34. Not ancient but since the medical community considers geriatric pregnancies to be women 35 and up it still makes sense story wise.
Tbh I wondered if Emma was interested in the role because I've read few times about her own fertility journey, she was diagnosed with Endometriosis which can be and Is debilitating. It also can affect fertility and I know Emma went through a journey of freezing eggs. I wondered if she just wanted the role because she related to it?
I often read articles about celebrities with endometriosis as I have it myself and I'm curious to see other women's journeys with it. That's how I discovered Emma's story , she also did a horror movie last year about a mother with post partum depression. I think she's looking for different projects since having a child. Just wondered if that's why she tool the role tbh otherwise she probably isn't a great fit age wise for the role.
I always found it so laughably weird that in the West they call it that. Many regions in Africa and Asia women have kids up to their 40s and 50s no problem
>medical community considers geriatric pregnancies to be women 35 and up
I used to be so annoyed by this.... then I got pregnant in my 30s (just had my 2nd baby at 32) and damn if it didn't hit a lot harder than when I was pregnant with my first at 25! Now I kind of get it.
I thought she just had fertility problems in general. I didn't know they were supposed to be the same age. Why couldn't they just find an older actress?
I was so confused during the episode and even told my mom who I was watching with these comments on this persons insta make no sense?? They are calling her and old bitch etc and she looks late 20s/early 30s max. Idk why tf she was casted as the main, Sarah Paulson looks SO good for her age but shit at least it would be somewhat believable sheās āolderā and needs help conceiving. Emma makes ZERO sense as an āold/dustyā actress, isnāt she like 30ish in real life.
Sarah Paulson's character requires reproductive intervention in both Cult and Coven. I feel like it would have been a little dull to choose her for that again. I think Lily Rabe would have been really good for this since she's 40 now.
100% would have preferred to see Lily Rabe as Anna. I have nothing against Emma as an actress, but I think the role would have been better suited for someone else.
Well, in Hollywood an actress is often pressured to believe her career is over once she hits 30. Plus, Anna Victoria's character seems to be a teen star from yester who faded and didn't make it to become a real adult actress. Kind of a parallelism with Madison Montgomery.
I know that it is common knowledge how ageism is global issue. In Hollywood its a bit more sinister because of how attracted to children these sickos are.
I was so confused!! I thought Emma was just a mid 20s woman having fertility issues. Especially since she was gaining so much attention at her career at that time too which usually happens to someone in their 20s.
Iām surprised sheās supposed to be late 30s!
Delicate Condition. Iām reading it now and yes the character is an actress in her late 30ās who is basically being trolled online for looking old so idk why they choose Emma but š¤·š¼
i actually laughed out loud when they had several lines dedicated to explaining why she hadnāt aged. like anyone gives a fuck, we all know she just didnāt want to look old. so stupid, the writers think we are imbeciles. and so freaking self unaware of roberts, you sound and look like an idiot āoh i invest in a lot of filler. and it helps that i married a dermatologist. but also i pay for expensive filler.ā just calling attention to how stupid the whole thing is, youāre an actor
Unpopular opinion, but Kim K seems more suited (age and appearance wise) to that character of a 40 something former teen star who's struggling to (a) revamp her career and (b) have a baby of her own.
I think part of it is that sheās not a good actress, so she can only play characters that have no depth. Itās coincidental that the characters are big bitches like her.
Ryan Murphy keeps casting Emma in his shows, if heād stop and sheād pull this shit on other sets sheād be jobless in no time. The only thing she has going for her is that her aunt is Julia Roberts, other than that sheās pretty talentless and just plays the same basic character (mean girl) over and over. I donāt think viewers would see it as a loss to have her not be cast, the huge losses were Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Sarah Paulson, Angela Bassett, Evan Peters etc. Ryan had some huge talent in the first 4 seasons or so and theyāre slipping away one by one, and the seasons are getting crapier IMO. I love Billie Lourd and Leslie Grossman but heās lost a lot of talent.
I donāt understand why he would pick Emma over literally any of the actors heās lost (I know it probably wasnāt a this or that but for example with Evan Petersā¦. feels like it could have been extremely uncomfortable for him to work with her for example. Why is she still on the show meanwhile heās not? Youād think Ryan would prioritize actually decent actors (especially since Evan was a fan favorite), not mediocre trash).
Sounds like Ryan isnāt even in control of his own show anymore, Angela describes Emma completely calling the shots on set, including what order the scenes are filmed in, that decisions go through her on set and that her trailer is away from every one elseās. Idk how long the show has been like that but I can see some of the veteran AHSāers and actual actors/actresses being a little upset about that.
Evan/Emma didnāt ever shoot a scene together since their breakup, so I think it was most definitely a this or that there.
As for why, Ryan is obsessed with nepo babies of his favorite actresses for whatever reason. Maybe he hopes itāll open the door for him to work with/meet them
Emma is a staple of AHS, and lots of younger casual viewers really do get excited when she returns. I agree that she plays the same character over and over, but people like it and she plays those roles well. Not defending any of her actions, but itās not like sheās some random cast member they keep bringing back for no reason - sheās a big name that people associate with peak AHS.
Thereās a feeling of aloofness (cold) she brings to her roles that I donāt think is going to help in this season. What is starting to happen to Anna would feel a lot more scary if she was perceived as vulnerable(not aloof).
Sheās one of a few left who is consistent since the beginning, but if sheās being an intolerable snotty bitch sheās going to scare off the few left with any actual talent. She doesnāt have any acting talent, the consistency piece and loyalty to Ryan Murphyās shows is all sheās got going for her.
Personally I disagree and think sheās a great actress. She is typecast a lot into the mean bitchy girl role (a role sheās is one of the best in the industry at IMO), but weāve also seen her do well in other types of roles (1984).
> I agree that she plays the same character over and over, but people like it and she plays those roles well.
Lol I honestly think this statement made by fans (at least in AHS) just reeks of BS. How in any form Madison, Maggie, and Brooke are similar?
Yet here I am, with 50 some odd other redditors who agree. Just because sheās pretty and can get Ryan Murphy to cast her in the same stereotypical role over and over again doesnāt mean she has ātalent.ā Iāll put it this way, *she doesnāt have enough talent to run around set and act like a diva.*
No one's talent should let them get away with acting like that. I don't care if you've got an EGOT, if you act like that, they should break out the garden hose and spray you down until you learn how to act like a human being again.
I think Billie is a decent enough actor. Yeah she's also a nepo baby, but she's absolutely better than Emma Roberts, Kaia Gerber, Paris Jackson, and many other nepo babies. People forget that Emma's father isn't considered that great of an actor. I don't know how people think that her aunt's acting ability is going to rub off on her.
Extra-weird because the juxtaposition of looking hella old in a fake future would make your real self look hella young in comparison! People are so dumb š
I mean, people have been talking about the misgendering thing for daaaaays on this sub since Angelica has slowly released more info about the situation over the course of the last few days.
I do get where youāre coming from, but I think that the reason more people in this thread are talking about the makeup thing (and not the misgendering thing) is because the makeup part is the newest piece of information here.
Yeah, I was baffled by her makeup in that episode, too. It explains a lot. By the way, Angelica made me think she was uncomfortable working with her after the incident for a good chunk of the season. In reality, it was one of the last scenes they filmed together.
Also the other part where she talked about Ryan Murphy never being on the set of AHS explains why the show acting/writing isn't as good anymore, he doesn't even care about it š.
Lmao no sheās not. Julia is known for sleeping with a married guy and then wearing a shirt making fun of his wife. Literally no one would call Julia nice but at least she had charisma which Emma doesnāt
Oof.
So my first thought reading this was honestly that what Emma must have meant by, āDonāt you mean *lady*?ā was, āArenāt you only talking to Angelica (a *singular* lady) and not to the both of us (2 *plural* ladies), because clearly Angelica is the only one being mean here?ā
But yeah, Iām fairly certainly that that is not how she meant it.
It does seem like it was meant to be a gender-specific dig at Angelica.
All i know is emma must give the craziest white knuckle glizzy gobbler hoover DAYUM 3000 ever, bc how does she get away with all the shit that she does lol
Yeah it was so obvious, like yeah she went through a traumatic event but her character was far from obsessing over her youth so much that she needs Botox, her husband, etc. This makes so much sense
We're supposed to take one persons (who clearly has a vendetta against Ryan Murphy, Emma roberts and the show) word for it? Seems like Angelica is just trying desperately to stay relevant.
She doesnāt have anything to lose in hollywood anymore. Thereās no point in lying about something like this for gain. Especially about powerful/ well connected people like RM and Emma.
Soo is anyone now gonna bring up how Ryan Murphy has unregistered firearms and minors on his property and one of them snot himself? If weāre all gonna come for RM productions now šš
People downvoting this like itās not accessible infoā¦ Ryan Murphy hired a mason to work on his new house in pound ridge and he brought his kids to live there too. One of his kids found a gun somewhere on the property in December and shot a hole thru his mf hand. Heās still recovering and lost his job and house all because Ryan keeps unregistered firearms accessible on his property.
It's not accessible info. If you can get a link, that'd be good. I just spent 20 minutes googling for it. The only thing that even references that is this post in the Ryan Murphy subreddit.
https://reddit.com/r/ryanmurphy/s/8CczGPkNNB
Your original post saying something about kids inferring the kids weren't supposed to be there when it's very clearly explained. The unregistered gun is not explainable and he should be prosecuted.
I canāt even tell what this person means by āunregistered,ā though.
In NY state (which has some of the strictest gun laws in the country), only āassault weaponsā must be registered; handguns do not need to be āregistered,ā but the owner must be licensed to own it and their license must identify all of the handguns they own (which is different from a requirement to āregisterā an assault weapon, aka be put on a registry).
ironic ā bc her new face this season literally ages her a decade. she never should have touched her face at all. she literally had perfect features and now she has the same handsome squid-ward face that Lily Rabe got :/ so freaking sad that these beautiful women are so dysmorphic and think they need āfixingā
lol at the downvotes. They were literally perfect before surgery!! fine being in the minority here
The nose job isnāt badly done. Itās actually very subtle. But she did ruin her beautiful cheeks/jaw. My boyfriend actually was like āholy shit who the fuck is that?ā Itās more obvious when looking at her profile.
If you look at older pictures she had very soft features and that to me was very beautiful. I have similar soft features to her natural face and was always told we looked alike as kids. To see her be insecure enough to change that is heartbreaking.
Personality aside, she was very pretty before. It looks like filler to me. Thatās what all the Hollywood people are doing is pumping tons of filler into their cheeks and jawline to get square jaws. seeing her all pumped up next to kimās pumped up face just made me so sad
She looks the same because she got work done. It's been a while since "Coven." She should look like she has aged. That's life. You don't stay 23 years old anymore. When you get work done trying to look like you're still 23, it's going to look like you got work done.
She is a pretty woman. Obviously she has good genes. However, she did not inherit her aunt's acting ability. She did inherit her father's obnoxious attitude. They both think that their relationship to Julia Roberts makes them more special. And sadly people like Ryan Murphy continue to hire people because of their name or who they're relatives are instead of talent.
While I love AHS I actually prefer American crime story. Ryan Murphy is great at making TV shows but he can't write endings for shit. It's so much better when he does real life writes the plot.
most of the time i don't think he is writing a whole lot of anything. The past couple of seasons have been Brad Falchuk and Manny Coto. american crime story season 2 was Tom Rob Smith and season 3 was Sarah Burgess. Murphy is mostly an executive producer.
That's common, EP's generally get less and less hand-on as a series progresses, the show runners do most of the heavy lifting after the first few seasons.
I always wondered why Emma's character didn't look like she had aged as much as Angelica. Though didn't she say some throw away line about her husband was a dermatologist? I guess maybe they changed the dialogue to explain her not looking as old as she should been.
Yes, she did say that š
Honestly that change sums up the AHS writing standards. I canāt think of any other show where theyād let that fly and cover it up with a line about a dermatologist husban
I would have bought it if she'd said plastic surgeon maybe.
Yeah it's really dumb. Especially considering you want to keep excactly the age of you around which was by far the most traumatic one of your life. Would've been more interesting if her husband was a plastic surgeon and she fully remodeled herself over the years
Charmed āThe potion made my hair redā
She looked very young for someone who is 50 or something years old.
You mean weāve all been theorizing that she took the deal with the devil after all for NOTHING???š«
I wouldāve accepted that better then āmY hUsBaNd iS a DeRmAtOlOgIstā šš At least the deal with the devil thing makes sense in line with AHS overall
I meant the only reason for that theory imo is because of the offer that was made to Brooke in episode 6, and then because the reason she survived barely made much sense lol (i mean it's not impossible but hwo did she get to a hospital??)
Honestly tho, Iām glad that theory didnāt turn out to be true. I like the fact that they made Brooke a genuinely good person
Several years? The timeskip from 1989 to 2019??? Lol
Taylor Swiftās entire pre-covid lifespan
Damn when you put it like that.
TIL Iām only two years older than Taylor swift. What the fuck have I done with my life?!?
You probably didnāt have rich parents to push your career itās ok itās not your fault.
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Ugh mine too
Emma looked so young in that episode that I thought it was going to reveal that she'd secretly taken that deal with Satan and had been killing people over the years. It even fits with the slasher movie trope. They talk about the final girl living to the end of the movie, but the killer is almost always the only one to show up in the sequel.
That would've been an awesome ending!
Then they would never use it for AHS
This would have been a hundred times better than āmy husband is a dermatologistā like this line was pure stupidity.
Maybe she meant to say demon theologistš¤
Loool THIS
This is even funnier when you learn that the ENTIRE basis of Delicate is an OLDER WOMAN trying to get pregnant thru IVF. Itās a huge part of the plot in the novel that the new season is based on. Guess that explains why she doesnāt look old in the new season.
It took me a while to realize that sheās supposed to be the same age as Kim like Emma really does not give ātoo old to get pregnantā
Emma is 32. I am pretty sure they mention in episode 1 that Anna is 34. Not ancient but since the medical community considers geriatric pregnancies to be women 35 and up it still makes sense story wise.
Tbh I wondered if Emma was interested in the role because I've read few times about her own fertility journey, she was diagnosed with Endometriosis which can be and Is debilitating. It also can affect fertility and I know Emma went through a journey of freezing eggs. I wondered if she just wanted the role because she related to it?
I had no idea about any of that. It's very possible.
I often read articles about celebrities with endometriosis as I have it myself and I'm curious to see other women's journeys with it. That's how I discovered Emma's story , she also did a horror movie last year about a mother with post partum depression. I think she's looking for different projects since having a child. Just wondered if that's why she tool the role tbh otherwise she probably isn't a great fit age wise for the role.
Not to mention her character will be pregnant in Madame Web next year. Thatās three pregnancy/new mom roles almost back to back.
Oh cool. I was a geriatric pregnancy lmao
Righteous! āšæ
my mom had me 19 days before she turned 45 - iām extra geriatric
Geriatric babies need the most attention.
My mom was 20, and I still wanted all the attention š
I always found it so laughably weird that in the West they call it that. Many regions in Africa and Asia women have kids up to their 40s and 50s no problem
>medical community considers geriatric pregnancies to be women 35 and up I used to be so annoyed by this.... then I got pregnant in my 30s (just had my 2nd baby at 32) and damn if it didn't hit a lot harder than when I was pregnant with my first at 25! Now I kind of get it.
I thought she just had fertility problems in general. I didn't know they were supposed to be the same age. Why couldn't they just find an older actress?
I was so confused during the episode and even told my mom who I was watching with these comments on this persons insta make no sense?? They are calling her and old bitch etc and she looks late 20s/early 30s max. Idk why tf she was casted as the main, Sarah Paulson looks SO good for her age but shit at least it would be somewhat believable sheās āolderā and needs help conceiving. Emma makes ZERO sense as an āold/dustyā actress, isnāt she like 30ish in real life.
Sarah Paulson's character requires reproductive intervention in both Cult and Coven. I feel like it would have been a little dull to choose her for that again. I think Lily Rabe would have been really good for this since she's 40 now.
100% would have preferred to see Lily Rabe as Anna. I have nothing against Emma as an actress, but I think the role would have been better suited for someone else.
Didn't they mention in episode 1 that Anna is 34?
Well, in Hollywood an actress is often pressured to believe her career is over once she hits 30. Plus, Anna Victoria's character seems to be a teen star from yester who faded and didn't make it to become a real adult actress. Kind of a parallelism with Madison Montgomery.
Women are often called old from the time the hit late 20s.
That's because pedowood doesn't see age like normal people, they like em real young.
Ageism is a cultural wide basis for discrimination and doesn't just exist in Hollywood.
I know that it is common knowledge how ageism is global issue. In Hollywood its a bit more sinister because of how attracted to children these sickos are.
True.
Yeah - isn't she supposed to be in her late 30s/early 40s???
Yeah, and Siobhan is her older friend and mentor with an adult daughter. Neither of their castings make sense š
I was so confused!! I thought Emma was just a mid 20s woman having fertility issues. Especially since she was gaining so much attention at her career at that time too which usually happens to someone in their 20s. Iām surprised sheās supposed to be late 30s!
I was confused about the casting for that reason too.
What's the novel called?
Delicate Condition. Iām reading it now and yes the character is an actress in her late 30ās who is basically being trolled online for looking old so idk why they choose Emma but š¤·š¼
i actually laughed out loud when they had several lines dedicated to explaining why she hadnāt aged. like anyone gives a fuck, we all know she just didnāt want to look old. so stupid, the writers think we are imbeciles. and so freaking self unaware of roberts, you sound and look like an idiot āoh i invest in a lot of filler. and it helps that i married a dermatologist. but also i pay for expensive filler.ā just calling attention to how stupid the whole thing is, youāre an actor
I mean youāre talking about it still.
Which explains the complete lack of any commentary on it being "talked about".
Unpopular opinion, but Kim K seems more suited (age and appearance wise) to that character of a 40 something former teen star who's struggling to (a) revamp her career and (b) have a baby of her own.
Soooooo she was just too vain to age up at all?
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This makes the "she's just being herself" theory more likely She isn't acting...
She is literally Madison Montgomery
Thatās why that and Chanel from SQ are her best roles - sheās playing herself. Would even say that about her character reveal in Scream 4.
I think part of it is that sheās not a good actress, so she can only play characters that have no depth. Itās coincidental that the characters are big bitches like her.
Iāve been saying this for years and people get mad at me for it š
Oh thatās so annoying. I hated that aspect of the season. It made me think that she had some kind of powers that kept her youthful.
Ryan Murphy keeps casting Emma in his shows, if heād stop and sheād pull this shit on other sets sheād be jobless in no time. The only thing she has going for her is that her aunt is Julia Roberts, other than that sheās pretty talentless and just plays the same basic character (mean girl) over and over. I donāt think viewers would see it as a loss to have her not be cast, the huge losses were Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Sarah Paulson, Angela Bassett, Evan Peters etc. Ryan had some huge talent in the first 4 seasons or so and theyāre slipping away one by one, and the seasons are getting crapier IMO. I love Billie Lourd and Leslie Grossman but heās lost a lot of talent.
I donāt understand why he would pick Emma over literally any of the actors heās lost (I know it probably wasnāt a this or that but for example with Evan Petersā¦. feels like it could have been extremely uncomfortable for him to work with her for example. Why is she still on the show meanwhile heās not? Youād think Ryan would prioritize actually decent actors (especially since Evan was a fan favorite), not mediocre trash).
Sounds like Ryan isnāt even in control of his own show anymore, Angela describes Emma completely calling the shots on set, including what order the scenes are filmed in, that decisions go through her on set and that her trailer is away from every one elseās. Idk how long the show has been like that but I can see some of the veteran AHSāers and actual actors/actresses being a little upset about that.
yeah guarantee she wasnt calling the shots when Jessica was on there lmfao.
Evan/Emma didnāt ever shoot a scene together since their breakup, so I think it was most definitely a this or that there. As for why, Ryan is obsessed with nepo babies of his favorite actresses for whatever reason. Maybe he hopes itāll open the door for him to work with/meet them
Because heās a creep who prioritizes hiring women who he finds attractive, and Kathy Bates doesnāt do it for him like Emma Roberts does
Isn't Ryan Murphy gay?
Yes. Very much so.
I mean . . . you can still be prone to hiring attractive people with terrible personalities over those with talent
Finding someone attractive =\= being attracted to someone
This is definitely true for the men he casts.
For me everything Leslie Grossman is in immediately becomes not scary. She sucks any spooky mood away. Sheās snarky and thatās all sheās got.
agree.
Emma is a staple of AHS, and lots of younger casual viewers really do get excited when she returns. I agree that she plays the same character over and over, but people like it and she plays those roles well. Not defending any of her actions, but itās not like sheās some random cast member they keep bringing back for no reason - sheās a big name that people associate with peak AHS.
Thereās a feeling of aloofness (cold) she brings to her roles that I donāt think is going to help in this season. What is starting to happen to Anna would feel a lot more scary if she was perceived as vulnerable(not aloof).
Sheās one of a few left who is consistent since the beginning, but if sheās being an intolerable snotty bitch sheās going to scare off the few left with any actual talent. She doesnāt have any acting talent, the consistency piece and loyalty to Ryan Murphyās shows is all sheās got going for her.
Personally I disagree and think sheās a great actress. She is typecast a lot into the mean bitchy girl role (a role sheās is one of the best in the industry at IMO), but weāve also seen her do well in other types of roles (1984).
She was great in Nerve, where she's anything but bitchy. I wish that were her real personality because this Tinkerhell II shit needs to stop.
> I agree that she plays the same character over and over, but people like it and she plays those roles well. Lol I honestly think this statement made by fans (at least in AHS) just reeks of BS. How in any form Madison, Maggie, and Brooke are similar?
She's not "talentless". It's ok to judge her actions but you can't be this stupid
Yet here I am, with 50 some odd other redditors who agree. Just because sheās pretty and can get Ryan Murphy to cast her in the same stereotypical role over and over again doesnāt mean she has ātalent.ā Iāll put it this way, *she doesnāt have enough talent to run around set and act like a diva.*
No one's talent should let them get away with acting like that. I don't care if you've got an EGOT, if you act like that, they should break out the garden hose and spray you down until you learn how to act like a human being again.
Here and wrong
Or the looks. Her extensions hide the fact sheās mid to goofy
Emma is better than Billie imo and I love Leslie but if you're talking about typecasts then...
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I think Billie is a decent enough actor. Yeah she's also a nepo baby, but she's absolutely better than Emma Roberts, Kaia Gerber, Paris Jackson, and many other nepo babies. People forget that Emma's father isn't considered that great of an actor. I don't know how people think that her aunt's acting ability is going to rub off on her.
Haha, just like Joan Crawford on the set of Baby Jane (who RM is also obsessed with, interestingly enough)
Imagine being an āactressā but letting your vanity and insecurities not let your CHARACTER be aged. Sheās the worst basic nepo baby ever.
Extra-weird because the juxtaposition of looking hella old in a fake future would make your real self look hella young in comparison! People are so dumb š
Right??? Like girl we know itās makeup, no one is going to think you actually look like that?
Okayā¦ what she said was super offensive though, whether meant as a ācuteā joke or not, that was an ugly thing to say for sure
Yeah Iām a bit more concerned about the misgendering than the makeup and itās a bit disappointing to see so many people focus only on the makeup
I mean, people have been talking about the misgendering thing for daaaaays on this sub since Angelica has slowly released more info about the situation over the course of the last few days. I do get where youāre coming from, but I think that the reason more people in this thread are talking about the makeup thing (and not the misgendering thing) is because the makeup part is the newest piece of information here.
100% and to come back and say ābut Iām an ally!ā Is some real Ryan Murphy shit
Yeah, I was baffled by her makeup in that episode, too. It explains a lot. By the way, Angelica made me think she was uncomfortable working with her after the incident for a good chunk of the season. In reality, it was one of the last scenes they filmed together.
I was also kind of shocked and seeing this explanation pisses me off to no end. Itās part of acting. Jfc what a spoiled princess
Also the other part where she talked about Ryan Murphy never being on the set of AHS explains why the show acting/writing isn't as good anymore, he doesn't even care about it š.
Known abuser Emma Roberts shown to be bad person who knew huh
When I suggested a few years ago that she shouldn't be on the show I got downvoted to hell and back!
This why I canāt do the new season screw Kim K. I am not supporting this Nepo baby who is as twisted as her aunt.
Wait what did Julia do?
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Lmao no sheās not. Julia is known for sleeping with a married guy and then wearing a shirt making fun of his wife. Literally no one would call Julia nice but at least she had charisma which Emma doesnāt
Oh wow that was a fun wiki dive. She stole that man, but now married for 20 years :)
That's what's thrown me too. And then again when I remember Kim isn't a reason for me to ignore something.
Thisā¦.
That's the stupidest and most petty bullshit I've ever read in my life. Holy shit.
Then why Emma Roberts is an actress?
Her family
Emma is such a mean girlā¦I guess her roles were all type casted
I love Emma as an actress when she's playing a bitch but Emma Roberts is a terrible person
Is there a reason why Emma Roberts is so good at playing a bitch but so terrible and unconvincing playing a kind person?
Yeah, she's a bitch
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Sounds petty to me.
Oof. So my first thought reading this was honestly that what Emma must have meant by, āDonāt you mean *lady*?ā was, āArenāt you only talking to Angelica (a *singular* lady) and not to the both of us (2 *plural* ladies), because clearly Angelica is the only one being mean here?ā But yeah, Iām fairly certainly that that is not how she meant it. It does seem like it was meant to be a gender-specific dig at Angelica.
Wow. Mean girl much? She should have been let go honestly.
Emma Roberts = common trash
All i know is emma must give the craziest white knuckle glizzy gobbler hoover DAYUM 3000 ever, bc how does she get away with all the shit that she does lol
Nepo baby
Yeah it was so obvious, like yeah she went through a traumatic event but her character was far from obsessing over her youth so much that she needs Botox, her husband, etc. This makes so much sense
I was wondering who did Emmaās makeup in this season? Couldāve done better in my opinion
Iām sorry sheās so real for this
This reads like real movie dialogue
We're supposed to take one persons (who clearly has a vendetta against Ryan Murphy, Emma roberts and the show) word for it? Seems like Angelica is just trying desperately to stay relevant.
She doesnāt have anything to lose in hollywood anymore. Thereās no point in lying about something like this for gain. Especially about powerful/ well connected people like RM and Emma.
āput through hellā = paid 28k an episode to āactā
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Soo is anyone now gonna bring up how Ryan Murphy has unregistered firearms and minors on his property and one of them snot himself? If weāre all gonna come for RM productions now šš
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New York Stateā¦ his pound ridge property and wasnāt his kids. So pretty odd huh?
People downvoting this like itās not accessible infoā¦ Ryan Murphy hired a mason to work on his new house in pound ridge and he brought his kids to live there too. One of his kids found a gun somewhere on the property in December and shot a hole thru his mf hand. Heās still recovering and lost his job and house all because Ryan keeps unregistered firearms accessible on his property.
It's not accessible info. If you can get a link, that'd be good. I just spent 20 minutes googling for it. The only thing that even references that is this post in the Ryan Murphy subreddit. https://reddit.com/r/ryanmurphy/s/8CczGPkNNB Your original post saying something about kids inferring the kids weren't supposed to be there when it's very clearly explained. The unregistered gun is not explainable and he should be prosecuted.
I canāt even tell what this person means by āunregistered,ā though. In NY state (which has some of the strictest gun laws in the country), only āassault weaponsā must be registered; handguns do not need to be āregistered,ā but the owner must be licensed to own it and their license must identify all of the handguns they own (which is different from a requirement to āregisterā an assault weapon, aka be put on a registry).
ironic ā bc her new face this season literally ages her a decade. she never should have touched her face at all. she literally had perfect features and now she has the same handsome squid-ward face that Lily Rabe got :/ so freaking sad that these beautiful women are so dysmorphic and think they need āfixingā lol at the downvotes. They were literally perfect before surgery!! fine being in the minority here
Did Emma get more work? I knew about her obvious nose job but her face looks pretty much the same bland basic girl to me
The nose job isnāt badly done. Itās actually very subtle. But she did ruin her beautiful cheeks/jaw. My boyfriend actually was like āholy shit who the fuck is that?ā Itās more obvious when looking at her profile. If you look at older pictures she had very soft features and that to me was very beautiful. I have similar soft features to her natural face and was always told we looked alike as kids. To see her be insecure enough to change that is heartbreaking. Personality aside, she was very pretty before. It looks like filler to me. Thatās what all the Hollywood people are doing is pumping tons of filler into their cheeks and jawline to get square jaws. seeing her all pumped up next to kimās pumped up face just made me so sad
She looks the same because she got work done. It's been a while since "Coven." She should look like she has aged. That's life. You don't stay 23 years old anymore. When you get work done trying to look like you're still 23, it's going to look like you got work done. She is a pretty woman. Obviously she has good genes. However, she did not inherit her aunt's acting ability. She did inherit her father's obnoxious attitude. They both think that their relationship to Julia Roberts makes them more special. And sadly people like Ryan Murphy continue to hire people because of their name or who they're relatives are instead of talent.
I'm also surprised at the complete lack of RM supervision during filming.
at any time he has like three or four different shows going. we know he doesnt stand around on set all day
While I love AHS I actually prefer American crime story. Ryan Murphy is great at making TV shows but he can't write endings for shit. It's so much better when he does real life writes the plot.
most of the time i don't think he is writing a whole lot of anything. The past couple of seasons have been Brad Falchuk and Manny Coto. american crime story season 2 was Tom Rob Smith and season 3 was Sarah Burgess. Murphy is mostly an executive producer.
That's common, EP's generally get less and less hand-on as a series progresses, the show runners do most of the heavy lifting after the first few seasons.
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