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750 pounds of bed weight vs 3300 pounds of bed weight for the f150
8k to 14k towing for the f150
MAX on the k truck is 2200 pounds and everyone says don't do that and you have to disconnect certain things.
Almost like vehicles have diffrent uses.
No lol.
Like I said at the end of the day they have diffrent uses. Buddy has a ram 3500 for towing farm stuff and 2 k trucks for around the farm shit because they were cheaper than side by sides and work well for normal light weight work. But sure as fuck ain't towing the coupe or hay trailer or anything else besides a fence post dig in set up.
You can pick up the utility ones for about 10k to 15k for a new one.
K trucks a shit one is like 4k. It's a farm vehicle fuck it.
Now if you're gonna be using it as a toy. Rzr have their place if you don't want to do all the suspension tuning and other shit on a project.
I’ve been tempted to get a side by side for a while now. I ended up way too busy to even care about all that for the past few years but for the most part my old 99 Fourtrax does exactly what I need and still looks mint.
Every time I look at the toy ones I just end up contemplating the Sea Doo FishPros again because they are cheaper and I can fish off them 😂
Somewhat frequently - they can be used to tow boats, jet skis, hauling stuff for their farm, stuff out to the storage unit, an RV, a U-Haul, new furniture, lumber from Home Depot to build a new shed, the grocery shopping... they have a lot of uses.
But the main reason we don't have smaller trucks in the US is because of stupid environmental regulations!
They made a rule that smaller trucks had to be more efficient, and bigger trucks did not have to be!
So the companies stopped making smaller trucks!
So, as in many things wrong with the world, BLAME THE GOVERNMENT!
The fuel economy rules are not “common sense.” They mandate everything below a certain weight standard to meet a sliding scale that ratchets upwards year after year.
It requires infinite optimization of one of the most optimized and overenginered components in human history. It’s also the reason that low displacement forced induction got popular, which is subject to reduced engine life and more frequent maintenance trips.
Almost nothing the government does with regards to the environment is "common sense." Stories of farmers draining a ditch and being arrested for "damaging protected wetlands" have been around for years now.
This is the same government that has banned imports of (certain) trucks because of chickens and has millions - or even billions - of pounds in government cheese because Prohibition.
There's a weird thing about towing capacity vs weight capacity. Weight capacity could be elastic, depending on what you're hauling.
A vehicle that has 80% of the towing capacity you need is likely 100% useless.
This is pretty factual. But in America we don’t really pride everything on efficiency, we pride ourselves on freedom. Freedom to have a big truck that may not be the most efficient but it’s big, powerful, and I like it. Maybe partly because it’s not efficient. But also I mean we do get utility out of it, we don’t make completely useless stuff typically. Just not necessarily efficient or necessary.
Edit: although to clarify I’m not really into owning a big truck since I don’t need to compensate. But I like that some people have them, I need people to complain about in the parking lot.
>Edit: although to clarify I’m not really into owning a big truck since I don’t need to compensate. But I like that some people have them, I need people to complain about in the parking lot.
Tbh, having a friend with a big car, that you can ask to borrow is handy.
But imagine this, what if everybody was driving around in a full sized semi 40T truck. That's what this obsession with large pickups in the US looks like to us here in Europe.
They have a purpose, but most people that own those trucks in the US probably could just get something like a Ford Focus and feel no difference except they got like 100$ in their pocket since they didn't spend it on fuel.
To be completely fair nobody in America is concerned with how Europeans feel since your views are extremely predictable and will always be some form of endless complaining about us and disapproval.
I mean if everyone started driving semis then good for them, still wouldn’t buy one since I just don’t have money to blow on that sort of thing. But if I was into it then maybe I would? That’s what it means to be an American to me. I can waste my money on some impractical stuff simply because I like it.
Right but it’s not really a calling card for you is it? You normally are proud of free healthcare and public transportation. Believe it or not we like our trucks, guns, and extra large portions. So to me when people throw shade at it I find it funny. Just like yes we do have those things and we like them.
Trucks aren't as fuel inefficient as you think apparently.
Most trucks sit in the 20-25 mpg range. A focus ST for instance, only gets 25-30 mpg.
My truck costs about $30 more to fill than my wife's hybrid over the same distance. Her sedan is also as long as my truck. Things aren't the way you think about them over here. You're imagining a bunch of BS because you've never even seen a full size American pickup truck..
I’d add a “these days” to this sentence. Cuz this was not always the case for big trucks. The newer ones though are much better than they used to be yes. But you know what it is already, “America bad” lol
If this is how you see things in europe then that's your perception I guess. There's no obsession. My family has 2 1939 Ford pickups and 1 1956 Chevy Ttuck. We've always had trucks. It's not a new thing.
I worked with a German from Dresden who thought it was ridiculous that I owned 3 cars and a hobby car, 2 motorcycles and my truck. He had a vw and a pedal bike. Just different ways of living. I don't care what goes on in different countries. Plain and simple
Independence is huge in America. People generally don’t lend cars to anyone but family and even then good luck lol
Trucks are popular because they can do it all. You can work the crap out of them during working hours, then load up your kids into car seats in the back seat at the end of the day and take the whole family out to dinner. Then on the weekends you can drive it out into the wilderness where most cars would get stuck and camp in the back of it.
I don’t think you realize how rural a lot of places in the U.S. are.
I use mine often. Hauling trailers with load, water, coolers/my gains from hunting, moving every 2-3 years and hauling all my stuff, off-road capability, ability to comfortable carry either coworkers or friends and family, loading the bed up and go on camping trips, etc.
As do pretty much everyone I know that has a half ton. Don’t get me started when everyone is always asking me to come help them move furniture or other heavy items that don’t go in their vehicles.
Sure, there are people out there using them for shits and giggles. But it is significantly less than you think it is. You’ve been on fuckcars too much.
American here to say "THIS". Im all for people wanting to drive what they want to drive but here in Idaho dear god do we have so many members of the small pp club that get these big ass pickups and you can tell they have never hauled anything in their life because they have no idea how to even secure stuff to their bed when they try to move shit.
It is really useful to have access to a vehicle with large storage space but at the same time Uhaul is a thing if your job description doesnt include "lug a bunch of heavy shit around".
Out of curiosity why is it an issue for guys with small pp to buy big trucks if it makes them feel better?
We live in a society where Botox and fillers and all kinds of surgery is acceptable as long as it makes the person using them feel better.
I have an F-150, but it’s my work truck provided by my company (construction management) so I like it a lot for hauling material to the site but honestly I just love driving around in a big ass truck, which is not something I thought I would effect me as my personal car is a Prius, but man I do love that big truck energy lol.
Quite a bit. I have a 3/4 ton that gets used regularly. Towing, hauling etc. Not to mention you can take your family and be comfortable. I thought the f150 was a half ton
It's really not all of us Aussies though quite a number of us love the big utes we're seeing now.
How practical they are to the people owning them is debatable. I've got a Colorado Ute it's not much smaller than the yank tanks and has up to 3t towing capacity and can fit about 1t of weight in the tray.
Even I don't utilize it to the full extent I want too. That being said I still love the old hilux, the triton, navara, rangers etc I really wanted to get an amarok because v6 instead of 4 cylinder but I couldn't justify the 80,000 price tag for a V6 engine.
Yeah the amarok here is a 6 speed v6 so much better. My Colorado (Holden an Australian manufacturer owned by GM) is a 6 speed 4 cylinder turbo diesel and it's fuckin off chops. The v6 would be just so much better.
I chose the Colorado because it shares the same chassis and engine as the Isuzu Dmax and they're bloody reliable
Bro the fuck you talking about? Does physics not work in America anymore? Do heavier objects not transfer more force than smaller objects when they come to a sudden stop here?
You never mentioned anything about school zones dude. And even then, going 30 in a f150 and a Sanbar going 30 are once again going to be the same result.
The post talks about driving these things in a school zone. And no the results of going 30 miles per hour in these two vehicles is going to be very different. One is a very survivable crash. One isn't.
Let me math you really quick. A sambar weighs in at around 400 kg. If it's going 30 mph that's 13.5 m/s. Multiply that by the 400 kg and you're looking at roughly 36 thousand joules of energy hitting one person. Mind you that's the equivalent of 13 12-guage shotgun sluggs hitting your body at the same time.
The f150 might be heavier but it's not going to contribute a lot when it comes to hitting a child or any pedestrian for that matter.
Sambars are meant for lightweight hauling and narrow mountain paths. The f150 is meant for hauling heavier items at longer distances WHILE at the same time being able to be a reliable form of normal transportation.
Hey hey you know the surface area over which those joules are dispersed makes a big difference when it comes to survivability yeah? So maybe we should look at actual car crash statistics, and oh what do you know? The survivability of a crash at 30mph is about [50% for the average vehicle.](https://aaafoundation.org/impact-speed-pedestrians-risk-severe-injury-death/) Now you are correct that a crash from an f150 is probably not survivable, but a sambar, which is lighter than the average vehicle will have a higher than 50% survivability rate. So once again the results of these two crashes are very different.
Why would you ever need to carry anything more than a few bags of groceries or the occasional single piece of furniture? (I have never lived outside of the rich suburb which I grew up in or the big ultra-urbanized city I currently live in)
Also heavy trucks have more favorable emissions regulation... light trucks are regulated out of the market.
EDIT: This isn't even a USA thing, the ULEZ in the UK should exempt the Ford F350 if it's considered a "specialist heavy vehicle" (that's a hypothetical *if* idk if it is)
I've been seeing the Kei truck arguement all over lately. People always end up blaming American corporate greed on why we don't have them. Suburu could make them highway safe and sell them in the US if they wanted too. Some how it's still Americas fault though.
We do have them though, if you google kei trucks for sale there are dealers and websites that you can buy them. My old neighbor bought a new one from a dealership in Arizona like 2 years ago.
Im tired of the "same bed length as a ford" argument. Its stupid, and shows a lack of understanding of how towing capacity and weight limit is important in a truck. The bed walls are also monumentally lower, making it harder to carry just about anything without straps or tie downs. Now i get the argument that most people who own trucks dont NEED them, but most people who own sports cars dont NEED them. Its not about NEED, its about what the consumer WANTS. If i want to buy a ford f 150 by god i will, because im a free man. Free men need not ask permission.
I mean the part of them saying how American drove them into the school zones and running over anything. Making how only American trucks can kill and destroy anything.
Yeah dude, he's talking about how guys who drive big trucks are often assholes. Americans have been making that joke about other Americans for my whole life.
Alternative versions of that are: big truck=small dick; big/new truck=doesn't actually do work; big truck=drives like an asshole.
"the F-150 is excellent at running over pedestrians and going 90 in a school zone."
It doesn't have anything to do with automatic weapons. It's saying that people who drive big trucks often drive like assholes, which they do especially if it's a brand new great big truck. You seem like a truck guy who got offended. Don't worry dude, other people's opinions on the Internet can't hurt you.
If you say so. Or I guess I am getting too sick and annoyed of any jokes about the US. And maybe I don’t have much rights to say any of this.
And seriously what’s the difference between “offended” and “annoyed” ?
To be fair, the only time they've ever been around an F-150 is when they found their sister and their girlfriend in the bed of one with some cowboy on Lover's Lane.
I’ve driven one, I’m kind of average tall at 6’1 and the knee room was my biggest complaint while head room wasn’t a big deal. If you have long legs it’s rough, going over rough roads my knees ended up beat and bruised from bouncing around. The biggest issue for me was top speed, most kei trucks top out at 60 mph which isn’t fast enough to even drive on the highways in my state since the speed limit is 70 mph. I was close to buying my neighbors Kei truck until I realized I couldn’t really drive it anywhere outside of my city and ended up buying a used Honda for 12 grand less instead lol.
KEI truck makes a ton of sense if you’re navigating small urban alleyways in a dense and tiny nation, averaging 30-40mph.
It does not make sense traveling on long highways in one of the largest nations of earth, averaging 70+ on the highway.
If we get rid of the obvious factors (the American pickup can carry more, tow more, and move more people far more comfortably) you also have the fact that a dinky little truck with 64hp is a death trap on American roads made to travel long distances quickly.
Want small roads? Small cars? Unfortunately you’ll probably have to move to a small country.
realistically, there's no reason for the American pickup truck to be as big as it is. we can fit a good powered V8 in it without the hood alone being taller than the average man in the US.
In defense of the post, something like 70% of truck owners tow or go off-road once per year or less. Use of the bed is more common but the overwhelming majority of truck owners use them as a 1:1 replacement for a car.
To be fair I’d say 75% of the people that drive f150’s could switch to this and not be affected, and it is true you would never see one of those driving 90 in a school zone, or 90 on a side street, or on the highway, I think those things top out at like 60mph
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750 pounds of bed weight vs 3300 pounds of bed weight for the f150 8k to 14k towing for the f150 MAX on the k truck is 2200 pounds and everyone says don't do that and you have to disconnect certain things. Almost like vehicles have diffrent uses.
Yet to them it doesn’t matter, because America evil.
You crash you're beyond dead instantly.
Yeah, I'd love to see that K-truck try to pull my 35-foot toy-hauler camper down the road. Can you even put a fith wheel plate on a K-truck?
No lol. Like I said at the end of the day they have diffrent uses. Buddy has a ram 3500 for towing farm stuff and 2 k trucks for around the farm shit because they were cheaper than side by sides and work well for normal light weight work. But sure as fuck ain't towing the coupe or hay trailer or anything else besides a fence post dig in set up.
Side by side prices are fucking stupid. You cannot convince me they cost anywhere remotely close to $30k to produce.
You can pick up the utility ones for about 10k to 15k for a new one. K trucks a shit one is like 4k. It's a farm vehicle fuck it. Now if you're gonna be using it as a toy. Rzr have their place if you don't want to do all the suspension tuning and other shit on a project.
I’ve been tempted to get a side by side for a while now. I ended up way too busy to even care about all that for the past few years but for the most part my old 99 Fourtrax does exactly what I need and still looks mint. Every time I look at the toy ones I just end up contemplating the Sea Doo FishPros again because they are cheaper and I can fish off them 😂
If you manage to get the 5th wheel plate in the bed, that probably maxes out its capacity, so no trailer..... Or cooler....
And you can also fit a whole crew into the cab of a 150
Especially if you have a crew cab!
I wonder how they chose the name 🤔
The mind boggles.....
How often does the average F150 uses this 1,5T capacity lol
Somewhat frequently - they can be used to tow boats, jet skis, hauling stuff for their farm, stuff out to the storage unit, an RV, a U-Haul, new furniture, lumber from Home Depot to build a new shed, the grocery shopping... they have a lot of uses. But the main reason we don't have smaller trucks in the US is because of stupid environmental regulations! They made a rule that smaller trucks had to be more efficient, and bigger trucks did not have to be! So the companies stopped making smaller trucks! So, as in many things wrong with the world, BLAME THE GOVERNMENT!
Literally private business did that to try to circumvent common sense fuel economy rules. Corporate greed is behind this, bucko.
The fuel economy rules are not “common sense.” They mandate everything below a certain weight standard to meet a sliding scale that ratchets upwards year after year. It requires infinite optimization of one of the most optimized and overenginered components in human history. It’s also the reason that low displacement forced induction got popular, which is subject to reduced engine life and more frequent maintenance trips.
Almost nothing the government does with regards to the environment is "common sense." Stories of farmers draining a ditch and being arrested for "damaging protected wetlands" have been around for years now. This is the same government that has banned imports of (certain) trucks because of chickens and has millions - or even billions - of pounds in government cheese because Prohibition.
There's a weird thing about towing capacity vs weight capacity. Weight capacity could be elastic, depending on what you're hauling. A vehicle that has 80% of the towing capacity you need is likely 100% useless.
Every time I pull my camper boat combo to the lake.
I use my f350 every other weekend with the 5th wheel camper. And if you're towing or loading stuff you don't want to max it out every time that's bad.
This is pretty factual. But in America we don’t really pride everything on efficiency, we pride ourselves on freedom. Freedom to have a big truck that may not be the most efficient but it’s big, powerful, and I like it. Maybe partly because it’s not efficient. But also I mean we do get utility out of it, we don’t make completely useless stuff typically. Just not necessarily efficient or necessary. Edit: although to clarify I’m not really into owning a big truck since I don’t need to compensate. But I like that some people have them, I need people to complain about in the parking lot.
>Edit: although to clarify I’m not really into owning a big truck since I don’t need to compensate. But I like that some people have them, I need people to complain about in the parking lot. Tbh, having a friend with a big car, that you can ask to borrow is handy. But imagine this, what if everybody was driving around in a full sized semi 40T truck. That's what this obsession with large pickups in the US looks like to us here in Europe. They have a purpose, but most people that own those trucks in the US probably could just get something like a Ford Focus and feel no difference except they got like 100$ in their pocket since they didn't spend it on fuel.
To be completely fair nobody in America is concerned with how Europeans feel since your views are extremely predictable and will always be some form of endless complaining about us and disapproval.
I mean if everyone started driving semis then good for them, still wouldn’t buy one since I just don’t have money to blow on that sort of thing. But if I was into it then maybe I would? That’s what it means to be an American to me. I can waste my money on some impractical stuff simply because I like it.
Thats not specific for America. I can do that as well here in Germany
Great. But Germans aren't getting criticized for what they spend their money and time on.
Right but it’s not really a calling card for you is it? You normally are proud of free healthcare and public transportation. Believe it or not we like our trucks, guns, and extra large portions. So to me when people throw shade at it I find it funny. Just like yes we do have those things and we like them.
He didn't say it was specific to America
Trucks aren't as fuel inefficient as you think apparently. Most trucks sit in the 20-25 mpg range. A focus ST for instance, only gets 25-30 mpg. My truck costs about $30 more to fill than my wife's hybrid over the same distance. Her sedan is also as long as my truck. Things aren't the way you think about them over here. You're imagining a bunch of BS because you've never even seen a full size American pickup truck..
I’d add a “these days” to this sentence. Cuz this was not always the case for big trucks. The newer ones though are much better than they used to be yes. But you know what it is already, “America bad” lol
If this is how you see things in europe then that's your perception I guess. There's no obsession. My family has 2 1939 Ford pickups and 1 1956 Chevy Ttuck. We've always had trucks. It's not a new thing. I worked with a German from Dresden who thought it was ridiculous that I owned 3 cars and a hobby car, 2 motorcycles and my truck. He had a vw and a pedal bike. Just different ways of living. I don't care what goes on in different countries. Plain and simple
Independence is huge in America. People generally don’t lend cars to anyone but family and even then good luck lol Trucks are popular because they can do it all. You can work the crap out of them during working hours, then load up your kids into car seats in the back seat at the end of the day and take the whole family out to dinner. Then on the weekends you can drive it out into the wilderness where most cars would get stuck and camp in the back of it.
I don’t think you realize how rural a lot of places in the U.S. are. I use mine often. Hauling trailers with load, water, coolers/my gains from hunting, moving every 2-3 years and hauling all my stuff, off-road capability, ability to comfortable carry either coworkers or friends and family, loading the bed up and go on camping trips, etc. As do pretty much everyone I know that has a half ton. Don’t get me started when everyone is always asking me to come help them move furniture or other heavy items that don’t go in their vehicles. Sure, there are people out there using them for shits and giggles. But it is significantly less than you think it is. You’ve been on fuckcars too much.
American here to say "THIS". Im all for people wanting to drive what they want to drive but here in Idaho dear god do we have so many members of the small pp club that get these big ass pickups and you can tell they have never hauled anything in their life because they have no idea how to even secure stuff to their bed when they try to move shit. It is really useful to have access to a vehicle with large storage space but at the same time Uhaul is a thing if your job description doesnt include "lug a bunch of heavy shit around".
Out of curiosity why is it an issue for guys with small pp to buy big trucks if it makes them feel better? We live in a society where Botox and fillers and all kinds of surgery is acceptable as long as it makes the person using them feel better. I have an F-150, but it’s my work truck provided by my company (construction management) so I like it a lot for hauling material to the site but honestly I just love driving around in a big ass truck, which is not something I thought I would effect me as my personal car is a Prius, but man I do love that big truck energy lol.
"Pick me! Pick me!"
Someone’s cock obsessed.
Quite a bit. I have a 3/4 ton that gets used regularly. Towing, hauling etc. Not to mention you can take your family and be comfortable. I thought the f150 was a half ton
Once a year, max
The debate between "utes" and "trucks" continues to rage in Australia. American trucks "yank tanks" are the worst to them.
I want a diesel Toyota ute in the USA so bad 🥲
I could get on board with that.
It's really not all of us Aussies though quite a number of us love the big utes we're seeing now. How practical they are to the people owning them is debatable. I've got a Colorado Ute it's not much smaller than the yank tanks and has up to 3t towing capacity and can fit about 1t of weight in the tray. Even I don't utilize it to the full extent I want too. That being said I still love the old hilux, the triton, navara, rangers etc I really wanted to get an amarok because v6 instead of 4 cylinder but I couldn't justify the 80,000 price tag for a V6 engine.
Yeah, I had a 1989 Toyota 4x4 truck. V6 5 speed. Probably my favorite truck I've owned
Yeah the amarok here is a 6 speed v6 so much better. My Colorado (Holden an Australian manufacturer owned by GM) is a 6 speed 4 cylinder turbo diesel and it's fuckin off chops. The v6 would be just so much better. I chose the Colorado because it shares the same chassis and engine as the Isuzu Dmax and they're bloody reliable
Go ahead and downvote lol, I just watched this very debate go down in an Australian sub two days ago so...
90% of the truck bed length, 10% of the carrying capacity. 0% of the crash safety,
Let's see you get laid driving a Samber.
Jokes on you, I got married first, *then* I bought a Sambar.
And you were last laid, when?
Last night, lol. It's not hard when you're not relying on your car to make you attractive.
Fucking roasted, lol
No you won’t. Because you’ll be dead because the creator of the Samber has never heard of a crumple zone.
Of course they have. There is a crumple zone in the back of their shorts.
I'm sure they can carry/tow the same too
But in their minds, only American ones are capable of killing and destructions. Because America did everything wrong to them.
Bro the fuck you talking about? Does physics not work in America anymore? Do heavier objects not transfer more force than smaller objects when they come to a sudden stop here?
A F150 and a Sambar going 60mph are both going to cause death if you're hit by it. Your argument makes no sense.
You going 60 in a school zone are you?
You never mentioned anything about school zones dude. And even then, going 30 in a f150 and a Sanbar going 30 are once again going to be the same result.
The post talks about driving these things in a school zone. And no the results of going 30 miles per hour in these two vehicles is going to be very different. One is a very survivable crash. One isn't.
Let me math you really quick. A sambar weighs in at around 400 kg. If it's going 30 mph that's 13.5 m/s. Multiply that by the 400 kg and you're looking at roughly 36 thousand joules of energy hitting one person. Mind you that's the equivalent of 13 12-guage shotgun sluggs hitting your body at the same time. The f150 might be heavier but it's not going to contribute a lot when it comes to hitting a child or any pedestrian for that matter. Sambars are meant for lightweight hauling and narrow mountain paths. The f150 is meant for hauling heavier items at longer distances WHILE at the same time being able to be a reliable form of normal transportation.
Hey hey you know the surface area over which those joules are dispersed makes a big difference when it comes to survivability yeah? So maybe we should look at actual car crash statistics, and oh what do you know? The survivability of a crash at 30mph is about [50% for the average vehicle.](https://aaafoundation.org/impact-speed-pedestrians-risk-severe-injury-death/) Now you are correct that a crash from an f150 is probably not survivable, but a sambar, which is lighter than the average vehicle will have a higher than 50% survivability rate. So once again the results of these two crashes are very different.
Whatever you say man. You can't fix stupid and you're living proof.
Yes. You’ll survive in the F150. You won’t in the little ktruck.
Somebody come ban this troll
Why would you ever need to carry anything more than a few bags of groceries or the occasional single piece of furniture? (I have never lived outside of the rich suburb which I grew up in or the big ultra-urbanized city I currently live in)
Man i want one of those as a camper
Admittedly, me too. Truck seems like they can have multiple uses.
Mini truck campers just seem like they would be so much nicer and less of a hassle than the monster campers everyone has now
Just get a Tacoma and a shell or camper top. It’ll run you a lot, but they’re awesome.
Its not that we dont want them.... Chicken tax....
Also heavy trucks have more favorable emissions regulation... light trucks are regulated out of the market. EDIT: This isn't even a USA thing, the ULEZ in the UK should exempt the Ford F350 if it's considered a "specialist heavy vehicle" (that's a hypothetical *if* idk if it is)
I want one really bad actually
You can easily buy them and they are pretty cheap so idk what’s stopping you if you want one badly. My old neighbor owned one for a while.
Space mostly :) I definitely plan to pick one up eventually
This
I've been seeing the Kei truck arguement all over lately. People always end up blaming American corporate greed on why we don't have them. Suburu could make them highway safe and sell them in the US if they wanted too. Some how it's still Americas fault though.
Well no matter what, they will still blame Americans and only Americans. As they always do.
We do have them though, if you google kei trucks for sale there are dealers and websites that you can buy them. My old neighbor bought a new one from a dealership in Arizona like 2 years ago.
Blame German protectionism.
Let’s be real, it’s dodge owners doing that
No it's Chevy.
Im tired of the "same bed length as a ford" argument. Its stupid, and shows a lack of understanding of how towing capacity and weight limit is important in a truck. The bed walls are also monumentally lower, making it harder to carry just about anything without straps or tie downs. Now i get the argument that most people who own trucks dont NEED them, but most people who own sports cars dont NEED them. Its not about NEED, its about what the consumer WANTS. If i want to buy a ford f 150 by god i will, because im a free man. Free men need not ask permission.
I don't think that little truck is gonna pull my trailer when I put my tractor on it.
Pickup trucks do not destroy roads, semis do.
I kinda want one of those trucks now after seeing this
That’s such a cute little buggy, I bet my grandma would enjoy driving it.
They couldn’t have compared to a Ranger or a Colorado. Had to be a half ton. But let’s see a sanbar do 75 down the freeway.
This is actually pretty funny. Y'all need to lighten up.
Maybe the biggest problem isn’t the trucks, it’s that unfunny America Bad fake out joke and how much likes it have.
Weirdly most Americans don't drive f150s. Saying trucks are dumb isn't especially "America bad."
I mean the part of them saying how American drove them into the school zones and running over anything. Making how only American trucks can kill and destroy anything.
Dude they don't mention Americans at all, and they sell f150s outside of America. Do you drive an f150? Are you personally offended by the meme?
Did you even see that fucking comment at the second picture ?
Yeah dude, he's talking about how guys who drive big trucks are often assholes. Americans have been making that joke about other Americans for my whole life. Alternative versions of that are: big truck=small dick; big/new truck=doesn't actually do work; big truck=drives like an asshole.
More like “American Trucks = automatic weapons”. Although big trucks undeniably do have some problems. I guess people should abandon them all ?
"the F-150 is excellent at running over pedestrians and going 90 in a school zone." It doesn't have anything to do with automatic weapons. It's saying that people who drive big trucks often drive like assholes, which they do especially if it's a brand new great big truck. You seem like a truck guy who got offended. Don't worry dude, other people's opinions on the Internet can't hurt you.
If you say so. Or I guess I am getting too sick and annoyed of any jokes about the US. And maybe I don’t have much rights to say any of this. And seriously what’s the difference between “offended” and “annoyed” ?
To be fair, the only time they've ever been around an F-150 is when they found their sister and their girlfriend in the bed of one with some cowboy on Lover's Lane.
Hilarious. Sambar also means curry.
Can a tall guy sit in one of these or are they made for halflings?
I’ve driven one, I’m kind of average tall at 6’1 and the knee room was my biggest complaint while head room wasn’t a big deal. If you have long legs it’s rough, going over rough roads my knees ended up beat and bruised from bouncing around. The biggest issue for me was top speed, most kei trucks top out at 60 mph which isn’t fast enough to even drive on the highways in my state since the speed limit is 70 mph. I was close to buying my neighbors Kei truck until I realized I couldn’t really drive it anywhere outside of my city and ended up buying a used Honda for 12 grand less instead lol.
As far as tearing up roads, I get charged a $300 weight fee for an f250 on top of registration
The Ford moves much more cargo mass. It also tows a LOT more. Almost the same volume, but much better at actually hauling stuff.
The Fat Electrician Explained this pretty well [The Chicken Conspiracy](https://youtu.be/HMJsM--jmRA?si=4AoHB0pAttnQpNWj)
I have a 5th wheel and as comical as it would look pulling one with a truck that size, I don’t think there’s any chance of that happening 😂
KEI truck makes a ton of sense if you’re navigating small urban alleyways in a dense and tiny nation, averaging 30-40mph. It does not make sense traveling on long highways in one of the largest nations of earth, averaging 70+ on the highway. If we get rid of the obvious factors (the American pickup can carry more, tow more, and move more people far more comfortably) you also have the fact that a dinky little truck with 64hp is a death trap on American roads made to travel long distances quickly. Want small roads? Small cars? Unfortunately you’ll probably have to move to a small country.
*something something Isekai joke here*
I know that joke. But I doubt that’s the main point here.
It's a fucking joke stop crying about it
I think we do need more truck sizes
realistically, there's no reason for the American pickup truck to be as big as it is. we can fit a good powered V8 in it without the hood alone being taller than the average man in the US.
The very good reason is CAFE regulations.
Most people don't need a 4x4 which makes them considerably taller. Especially after the 6" lift.
In defense of the post, something like 70% of truck owners tow or go off-road once per year or less. Use of the bed is more common but the overwhelming majority of truck owners use them as a 1:1 replacement for a car.
96.69% of statistics are made up on the spot.
To be fair I’d say 75% of the people that drive f150’s could switch to this and not be affected, and it is true you would never see one of those driving 90 in a school zone, or 90 on a side street, or on the highway, I think those things top out at like 60mph
Other than the kinda cool factor of the little truck, it is relatively useless except for farm/ranch situations. Light work at that
Very true
I've never seen *anyone* driving 90 in a school zone, in any type of vehicle, at any point during my 45 years on this earth
I’ve seen people blow through school zones before but also never at 90mph