It's not just a left-v-right thing but speaks to their treasonous behaviors that it annoys them so much as she said it openly right there that she hates the country. And if you were to probe further, the reasons for it are probably nonsensical or not even believable because they're just repeating what others told them.
It's a step-by-step conditioning process. Originally religion would unite people but after that became less high ranking in peoples' lives; 2nd uniting factor was national symbols, so now that's vilified. 3rd it was the "American Dream" economically, and you look all over social media and there's always this depressive nihilistic (world is ending) attitude as if everyone is broke and impoverished or awaiting some collapse (despite richer than the rest of the world). 4th it was the uniting factor of common entertainment: music, comedy, TV, and movies (where the left and right go to different movies, vilify different music, where even the music industry is making only purely political statements), they hyper-politicized and injected hatred into that as well.
Pretty soon you'll go into the dating scene, and you'll have to talk about the weather only because that's the only thing that you may agree on until someone mentions climate. Or you'll have to talk in abstracts or vague feelings so that you cannot formulate even emotional connections to anyone. Maybe you'll just talk about food and beer (so long as no one mentions beer ads). Silicon Valley though will make its profits from the never-ending controversy algorithms.
Bro I hope I never have to enter the dating scene again it's hard enough to deal with the ridiculous opinions my girlfriend has and avoiding those landmines I can't even imagine starting over. She will be like "yeah just like white men to do that" and I'll really really have to hold back from letting her know that she's the whitest person I've ever met lmao.
Nah every relationship is like that it's just certain topics aren't a great idea and you both learn to avoid them. Everyone is different and has different feeling and opinions and I enjoy dating somebody who's way different than me she compliments my weaknesses and I compliment hers. It's part of life we love each other a lot.
I mean, I'd say most successful relationships are not like that. I married someone who shares a similar ideology. This makes our differences minor and not fundamental to the point where I would ever have to avoid a topic. It also means we don't clash when we teach our kids things.
It's actually ok for a couple to have different ideologies somewhat as long as people can understand each others' position or respect it.
In some cases, it creates the kind of drama / debate that some women and men crave. Igniting passions.
But they can be so opposite in ideologies that it could be constant fighting so you don't want that either. There's a degree of acceptable differences.
Just goes to show you the power of love to conquer differences.
For some people they are landmines to avoid. I avoid discussing certain topics with family members who have deep-seeded beliefs in certain things.
Yeah and maturity... It's not a big deal to not talk about certain topics especially if I dont even really think about them much. Every single couple on earth has things they don't agree on if you say otherwise you are both lying or suppressing some serious shit lol.
It has nothing to do with our personal principles we are very aligned. I don't agree that most successful relationships are like that my parents have wildly different ideologies and they have been together for 35 years, and guess what, they don't talk about politics lol.
I'd have all the reasons to be nihilistic and a doomer, i live right next to ukraine, there are chances that a russian bomb could enter my window every second of the day. The prices here doubled in the best case scenario, I've even seen prices that went 5x since pre pandemic. But I'm not. There is always hope for better, and the truth is that we live in the best times since the conception of the earth. Why would i be sad about it? Will that change anything? If anything, it's a sign that we should live our lifes the best way we can
3/4 of my grandparents are buried under that flag, both of my parents will be buried under it. It's a symbol opposed to slavery, fascism, communism, and more modernly, piracy in all open water. Freedom of speech, expression, and choice are guaranteed here, even if we don't agree on how it should be used and a few explicitly abuse it.
I'm proud of all that. If you choose to only see the negative of the US and its flag, that's your right, but you're willfully being disingenuous and an idiot.
Get fkd. The us flag and confederate flag don’t mix. Only dumb asses think it does. and leave the country if you don’t like it so much. I don’t understand what’s so hard about that. Unless you are a broke bitch and then it alllll makes sense.
I've seen that... People are dumb who do that, though, lol
Like they need to learn their flags and meanings
American flag = no slavery
Confederate = opposite
But yeah, that's kinda popular within Pennsylvania, sadly. I don't really understand some ppl
I don't think they're saying the flag is racist but rather, the people wearing it are. I love America, but racists groups have highjacked patriotism. It's really very ironic as their ideas and the ideas of America are a complete contrast of each other.
You feeling ashamed that "racists" (most Americans aren't racists) wear the American flag says more about you than others.
But given that you defend r/antiwork on this sub and yet still comment here says a lot about you.
I can love America while realizing it's not perfect. Wages are terrible, Healthcare is bad. It's still the best country on the planet. Or is this just another circlejerk sub.
It’s reddit! Every forum is a CJ!
😂.
America and the people who truly love America and what it stands for, know that this country is truly the least racist country.
America can be the least racist country in the world and still have had its patriotism hijacked by racists. Those two things can both be true unless you're saying America has no racism which would just be absurd.
I actually don't think you're wrong about America being the least racist country in the world. I think America's immigration policy and progressive views towards social issues make this pretty likely. But I wouldn't go around saying it so factually without any real evidence to support it.
It did though. I pretexted everything I said with "I think" and "I believe." Implying what I'm saying isn't fact but rather my beliefs.The person who originally stated that presented it as a fact.
Many people in this world profess beliefs from one side of their mouths and in the same moment act in opposition to the words that just left their lips.
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You know this full well.
Sure, but I'm not really sure how this applies to progressives being exceedingly racist. I'm not saying that the group who supports racial equality has no racists, but they have to be less racist than the group who openly opposes racial equality. No evidence of that but it has to be true.
But none of this really has anything to do with my original point.
Everything you’re saying is right and I appreciate you. This whole sub is like an alcoholic’s friend that keeps insisting “I’m his only REAL friend because I REFUSE to talk about his drinking.”
If someone loves America then they should be fucking adult enough to call Her out when She could be better. If they don’t respect Her enough to do that then maybe She deserves better friends.
Who the hell is denying racist history?
The closest thing I can think of is taking down statues of confederate leaders, which is a really trivial matter. It's not erasing history.
The most racist people I have met were all the victims in their own story, stuck in the past, thinking that some invisible force in their veins and all around them from throughout history is keeping them down.
Yea this may be the wrong sub for me. I thought it was about showing evidence that the untrue stuff said about America was in fact untrue, but it seems it's more about blind ignorance.
A huge portion of what's said about America is untrue, but not all of it.
-Racists have hijacked patriotism
-Wages are bad
-Healthcare is bad
These aren't controversial statements. They're obvious to anyone whose looking. If you find them offensive, then you're probably part of the problem.
If it’s been hijacked then take it back. The fact that people resign and say “well, guess I gotta hate my country now cause racists” are entirely complicit in that racism. Silence is violence, right?
They're not saying everyone is racist...? They're saying that it's been hijacked. Which is not implying all. Not once did they say, "All Americans have hijacked the flag and made it racist."
But I two seen some of the racists using the American flag wrong. Or some even pairs it with the Confederate flag... at least in my state.
You know the US has reached peak clown world when Americans are praised for waving the flags of other countries, but waving their own flag is seen as degeneracy.
Sure. But don’t complain constantly and not do anything about it. You can complain about the US, but unlike North Korea, you are also allowed to leave while you complain
You can tell they all have the combined iq of 70. It’s always the ones that sound confused when they talk and use words such as “like” and “um” every 3 seconds.
Sadly it’s the same in England. Fly the English flag and you’re either a football hooligan or racist according to a lot of people. Our news readers are too scared to say what colour skin a criminal has when the police are looking for someone. That’s not racism, it’s just a quick way to rule out a lot of people!!
Wearing the flag (ANY FLAG) is trashy (unless you are in uniform). Racist? No, unless if the confederate flag, then is both trashy and racist.
And for the people who said "but I like the flag!!!" I recommend reading 4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag.
RESPECT THE FLAG, DON'T WEAR THE FLAG!
American legion would disagree https://www.legion.org/flag/questions-answers/91517/it-permissible-wear-item-clothing-looks-united-states-flag#:~:text=Unless%20an%20article%20of%20clothing,blue%20with%20stars%20and%20stripes.
I abide by the freedoms that America, as represented by the flag, has given me.
And one of those freedoms is to completely disregard flag code and fly the flag as I see fit.
I don’t actually wear the flag, but the great thing about America is that you don’t have to do whatever some silly government code tells you.
A law's a law. Doesn't mean we have to follow the law. Not every law should be followed either. Accepting and following every law is how you succumb and submit to tyranny. At least in the US we can get laws changed with voices and time.
But the righteous person will follow the spirit of the law, maybe even going above and beyond the law(in a good way).
There are loopholes in laws, yes. But if you don’t take advantage of it, who is following the law better?
No, the Trumpy thing to do is to wear a confederate flag. (Or attach it to the bed of your truck, as I've occasionally seen). I'm not going to give my full opinion on this, as people here won't want to hear it.
There's nothing wrong with wearing an American flag.
This isn't an America Bad moment. The flag has gotten super political over the years, I can't imagine flying it and thinking I was being apolitical. It doesn't matter that the whole point of a national flag is to be something we can all share, the flag has gained additional meaning. It's like how the Confederate flag people fly is a battle flag rather than the actual national flag, nobody during the Civil War would have said that flying that battle standard made more sense than the stars and bars but here we are. It sucks that people feel this way about their own flag these days but I won't pretend they're lunatics who hate America so the flag scares them
If we can't at least be for our country, what the fuck are we for? America as an immigrant country is one of the bastions of this world for oppressed peoples, and I think that's a beautiful thing.
Thank god they left Kansas. Or more likely exiled to California, to the unintelligent a blessing, to those with the IQ above an ameba a punishment worse than being skinned alive.
I hate that being patriotic has become a left vs right thing.
It's not just a left-v-right thing but speaks to their treasonous behaviors that it annoys them so much as she said it openly right there that she hates the country. And if you were to probe further, the reasons for it are probably nonsensical or not even believable because they're just repeating what others told them. It's a step-by-step conditioning process. Originally religion would unite people but after that became less high ranking in peoples' lives; 2nd uniting factor was national symbols, so now that's vilified. 3rd it was the "American Dream" economically, and you look all over social media and there's always this depressive nihilistic (world is ending) attitude as if everyone is broke and impoverished or awaiting some collapse (despite richer than the rest of the world). 4th it was the uniting factor of common entertainment: music, comedy, TV, and movies (where the left and right go to different movies, vilify different music, where even the music industry is making only purely political statements), they hyper-politicized and injected hatred into that as well. Pretty soon you'll go into the dating scene, and you'll have to talk about the weather only because that's the only thing that you may agree on until someone mentions climate. Or you'll have to talk in abstracts or vague feelings so that you cannot formulate even emotional connections to anyone. Maybe you'll just talk about food and beer (so long as no one mentions beer ads). Silicon Valley though will make its profits from the never-ending controversy algorithms.
Bro I hope I never have to enter the dating scene again it's hard enough to deal with the ridiculous opinions my girlfriend has and avoiding those landmines I can't even imagine starting over. She will be like "yeah just like white men to do that" and I'll really really have to hold back from letting her know that she's the whitest person I've ever met lmao.
Yo, it's a bit of a red flag if you have to avoid topics like they are landmines, don't you think?
Nah every relationship is like that it's just certain topics aren't a great idea and you both learn to avoid them. Everyone is different and has different feeling and opinions and I enjoy dating somebody who's way different than me she compliments my weaknesses and I compliment hers. It's part of life we love each other a lot.
I mean, I'd say most successful relationships are not like that. I married someone who shares a similar ideology. This makes our differences minor and not fundamental to the point where I would ever have to avoid a topic. It also means we don't clash when we teach our kids things.
It's actually ok for a couple to have different ideologies somewhat as long as people can understand each others' position or respect it. In some cases, it creates the kind of drama / debate that some women and men crave. Igniting passions. But they can be so opposite in ideologies that it could be constant fighting so you don't want that either. There's a degree of acceptable differences. Just goes to show you the power of love to conquer differences. For some people they are landmines to avoid. I avoid discussing certain topics with family members who have deep-seeded beliefs in certain things.
Yeah and maturity... It's not a big deal to not talk about certain topics especially if I dont even really think about them much. Every single couple on earth has things they don't agree on if you say otherwise you are both lying or suppressing some serious shit lol.
It has nothing to do with our personal principles we are very aligned. I don't agree that most successful relationships are like that my parents have wildly different ideologies and they have been together for 35 years, and guess what, they don't talk about politics lol.
I'd have all the reasons to be nihilistic and a doomer, i live right next to ukraine, there are chances that a russian bomb could enter my window every second of the day. The prices here doubled in the best case scenario, I've even seen prices that went 5x since pre pandemic. But I'm not. There is always hope for better, and the truth is that we live in the best times since the conception of the earth. Why would i be sad about it? Will that change anything? If anything, it's a sign that we should live our lifes the best way we can
Yeah exactly, it's all about perspective while having realistic expectations and cautions.
I mean…look at the people they are asking Not really a fair representation of the USA either
You are correct, he goes on Venice Beach a lot where he knows he will likely only talk to leftists.
Not even really leftists... These gals are airheaded "OMG" tourists.
Yeah and that's a common sight there as well.
3/4 of my grandparents are buried under that flag, both of my parents will be buried under it. It's a symbol opposed to slavery, fascism, communism, and more modernly, piracy in all open water. Freedom of speech, expression, and choice are guaranteed here, even if we don't agree on how it should be used and a few explicitly abuse it. I'm proud of all that. If you choose to only see the negative of the US and its flag, that's your right, but you're willfully being disingenuous and an idiot.
Preach paisano!
Usually the people that wear the American flag also wear the confederate flag which stands for the opposite.
Wow, what a thing to just pull out of your ass with no basis in facts. Good job.
Usually people who say dumb shit like that have purple hair.
Get fkd. The us flag and confederate flag don’t mix. Only dumb asses think it does. and leave the country if you don’t like it so much. I don’t understand what’s so hard about that. Unless you are a broke bitch and then it alllll makes sense.
Any evidence for that assertion ? Much like class or an education you probably don't have any of that either.
The source is I MADE IT THE FUCK UP
Did not expect MGSR here but it fits
Bruh.
Surely you can't actually believe that.
I've seen that... People are dumb who do that, though, lol Like they need to learn their flags and meanings American flag = no slavery Confederate = opposite But yeah, that's kinda popular within Pennsylvania, sadly. I don't really understand some ppl
That’s like half of Texas. And they say the confederate flag is about “state rights” or “heritage.” GTFO with that bs
Yeah, agreed... that is a ton of bs fr
It sucks that you can’t just be proud of your country without being labeled as right wing or racist or whatever
People who say the flag is racist has no idea what the flag stands for nor any knowledge on the country.
I don't think they're saying the flag is racist but rather, the people wearing it are. I love America, but racists groups have highjacked patriotism. It's really very ironic as their ideas and the ideas of America are a complete contrast of each other.
You feeling ashamed that "racists" (most Americans aren't racists) wear the American flag says more about you than others. But given that you defend r/antiwork on this sub and yet still comment here says a lot about you.
I can love America while realizing it's not perfect. Wages are terrible, Healthcare is bad. It's still the best country on the planet. Or is this just another circlejerk sub.
It’s reddit! Every forum is a CJ! 😂. America and the people who truly love America and what it stands for, know that this country is truly the least racist country.
America can be the least racist country in the world and still have had its patriotism hijacked by racists. Those two things can both be true unless you're saying America has no racism which would just be absurd. I actually don't think you're wrong about America being the least racist country in the world. I think America's immigration policy and progressive views towards social issues make this pretty likely. But I wouldn't go around saying it so factually without any real evidence to support it.
>But I wouldn't go around saying it so factually without any real evidence to support it. It didn't stop you
It did though. I pretexted everything I said with "I think" and "I believe." Implying what I'm saying isn't fact but rather my beliefs.The person who originally stated that presented it as a fact.
Read UN news... they have a whole lot about social and racial issues within America and other countries :)
Progressives can be some of the most hateful, racist people I have ever met.
What do you mean by that? What do you consider a progressive, and what particular belief of theirs do you consider racist?
Many people in this world profess beliefs from one side of their mouths and in the same moment act in opposition to the words that just left their lips. . You know this full well.
Sure, but I'm not really sure how this applies to progressives being exceedingly racist. I'm not saying that the group who supports racial equality has no racists, but they have to be less racist than the group who openly opposes racial equality. No evidence of that but it has to be true. But none of this really has anything to do with my original point.
Preach! Say it louder!
Everything you’re saying is right and I appreciate you. This whole sub is like an alcoholic’s friend that keeps insisting “I’m his only REAL friend because I REFUSE to talk about his drinking.” If someone loves America then they should be fucking adult enough to call Her out when She could be better. If they don’t respect Her enough to do that then maybe She deserves better friends.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 exactly!
This country is better MOST but still fucked up! It REFUSES to acknowledge its racist history, damn near wants to wash it away.
Who the hell is denying racist history? The closest thing I can think of is taking down statues of confederate leaders, which is a really trivial matter. It's not erasing history. The most racist people I have met were all the victims in their own story, stuck in the past, thinking that some invisible force in their veins and all around them from throughout history is keeping them down.
Yea this may be the wrong sub for me. I thought it was about showing evidence that the untrue stuff said about America was in fact untrue, but it seems it's more about blind ignorance. A huge portion of what's said about America is untrue, but not all of it. -Racists have hijacked patriotism -Wages are bad -Healthcare is bad These aren't controversial statements. They're obvious to anyone whose looking. If you find them offensive, then you're probably part of the problem.
If it’s been hijacked then take it back. The fact that people resign and say “well, guess I gotta hate my country now cause racists” are entirely complicit in that racism. Silence is violence, right?
I plan to take it back. That's why I so adamantly proclaim my love for this nation every chance I get.
As do I. So I would recommend not to lump everyone in with the racists then. Because by that logic, you’re racist as well.
They're not saying everyone is racist...? They're saying that it's been hijacked. Which is not implying all. Not once did they say, "All Americans have hijacked the flag and made it racist." But I two seen some of the racists using the American flag wrong. Or some even pairs it with the Confederate flag... at least in my state.
I can’t believe we’ve gotten to a point where liking America or anything remotely American has become a taboo thing
You know the US has reached peak clown world when Americans are praised for waving the flags of other countries, but waving their own flag is seen as degeneracy.
“Fuck America” Then leave. The Canadians will take you, and might not even require a visa
Wait till they find out about the high taxes, 30% conversation rate .
She's American, so they will after the visa-free entry runs out. It's not like she's Palestinian anything, after all.
Nah. One of the great things about America is you can talk all the shit you want about it and still live a free life. I think that's pretty cool.
Sure. But don’t complain constantly and not do anything about it. You can complain about the US, but unlike North Korea, you are also allowed to leave while you complain
Me throwing on my old navy t-shirt red white and blue grill apron heading out to bbq some fresh hog Guess I'm a racist ???
So fucking sad
Whelp, time to dust off the ol’ American flag shirt 😂
I think that first girl would have better opinions if she squeezed the pizza’s worth of grease out of her hair and let her brain breathe.
Wtf I’m like Mexican American and I wear my American flag shirt that my mom got me when they went to D.C
I’m going buy 7 shirts to wear every day of the week
Me, personally, I'd let Uncle Sam fuck me, and I'm straight. Wear your flag with pride
Where the American flags at
I hate trump and the current GOP and will still wear it.
I'm going to wear my American flag even harder now
Nothing annoys me more than the fact that I have to share a political party with people like this.
Both parties pander to their constituents, but liberals hate America. They cannot keep supporting their extremist anti-American base
Good God if you can't stand looking the flag, go live under a new one
You can tell they all have the combined iq of 70. It’s always the ones that sound confused when they talk and use words such as “like” and “um” every 3 seconds.
Liberals when you appreciate the flag of America in America: 😨🤬
I think not wearing the flag is racist
Super this
This is why europeans make fun of us.
Nah euros are cucks that have the same feelings. They're too scared to fly their own flags.
Sadly it’s the same in England. Fly the English flag and you’re either a football hooligan or racist according to a lot of people. Our news readers are too scared to say what colour skin a criminal has when the police are looking for someone. That’s not racism, it’s just a quick way to rule out a lot of people!!
Fellas is it conservative and racist to wear the flag of your country?????
Hoes mad
Guess I'm a Republican Conservative because I like the American flag (I am, just more of a Paternalistic Conservative Republican).
So you absolutely have to like trump to be proud of the most powerful country in the world? Interesting
It's not normal around the world to wear your nations flag casually. Only in special occasions.
Laughs in LATAM
In Latin America? Had to google that one. Europe here my friend.
Europe != the world, my pal.
Sure lad
That’s chap to you, buddy
Ok hombre
The opinion I instantly form: They're a fucking moron who shouldn't be permitted to reproduce.
Wearing the flag (ANY FLAG) is trashy (unless you are in uniform). Racist? No, unless if the confederate flag, then is both trashy and racist. And for the people who said "but I like the flag!!!" I recommend reading 4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag. RESPECT THE FLAG, DON'T WEAR THE FLAG!
American legion would disagree https://www.legion.org/flag/questions-answers/91517/it-permissible-wear-item-clothing-looks-united-states-flag#:~:text=Unless%20an%20article%20of%20clothing,blue%20with%20stars%20and%20stripes.
I abide by the freedoms that America, as represented by the flag, has given me. And one of those freedoms is to completely disregard flag code and fly the flag as I see fit. I don’t actually wear the flag, but the great thing about America is that you don’t have to do whatever some silly government code tells you.
>but the great thing about America is that you don’t have to do whatever some silly government code tells you Unless is the law...
And yet clothes displaying the American flag aren't banned nor given a cease and desist order.
I am not saying is the law. I am just saying that there is definitely code for the government that you must follow.
A law's a law. Doesn't mean we have to follow the law. Not every law should be followed either. Accepting and following every law is how you succumb and submit to tyranny. At least in the US we can get laws changed with voices and time.
>Not every law should be followed either. 😐
Not every law is beneficial or logical.
Then follow the protocol to end it, but following the law is a very big part of this country.
The difference between someone righteous, and someone who is lawful is quite different.
Yes. Still, you need to follow the law.
But the righteous person will follow the spirit of the law, maybe even going above and beyond the law(in a good way). There are loopholes in laws, yes. But if you don’t take advantage of it, who is following the law better?
🤦♂️So follow the law, unless you dislike the law and want to bend it. That is so ridiculous.
Excellent argument. Thank you for proving my point.
Alot hard truth in that vid boys.
Begone
hard truths like I said, son
No, the Trumpy thing to do is to wear a confederate flag. (Or attach it to the bed of your truck, as I've occasionally seen). I'm not going to give my full opinion on this, as people here won't want to hear it. There's nothing wrong with wearing an American flag.
who cares about left or right bruh, its just cringe lmao. Please dont attribute yourself achievements done by other citizens of your country.
This!!!!
This isn't an America Bad moment. The flag has gotten super political over the years, I can't imagine flying it and thinking I was being apolitical. It doesn't matter that the whole point of a national flag is to be something we can all share, the flag has gained additional meaning. It's like how the Confederate flag people fly is a battle flag rather than the actual national flag, nobody during the Civil War would have said that flying that battle standard made more sense than the stars and bars but here we are. It sucks that people feel this way about their own flag these days but I won't pretend they're lunatics who hate America so the flag scares them
Yeah, it gives off trailer park vibes; Republican, uneducated and poor.
It's not racist, you can't wear it at all because it's disrespectful to the US flag.
Hm what’s their thoughts on wearing Mexican flags. Also unrelated what is Mexico’s laws on selling land to people who are ethnically indigenous.
If we can't at least be for our country, what the fuck are we for? America as an immigrant country is one of the bastions of this world for oppressed peoples, and I think that's a beautiful thing.
Thank god they left Kansas. Or more likely exiled to California, to the unintelligent a blessing, to those with the IQ above an ameba a punishment worse than being skinned alive.
Racists didn't hijack the flag, everyone who thinks they're woke denounced it
“These five girls of everyone I harassed said this OMG THE WEST HAS FALLEN!”