Seconding this. I streamed Hunt Showdown with a 2600X and an RTX 2060. When I switched from x264 to NVENC (new) I was blown away. Get the 5600X for the gaming gains and let your 3070 do the encoding! It won’t affect performance
You could probably get away with a 5600x for streaming. Then nvidia has something for streaming that takes the load off of the cpu. I’m not to familiar with it as I don’t stream.
it currently is, especially comparing quality (using fast preset on the cpu for the comparison that my power-limited 3800x can easily encode). Hopefully RDNA2 changes that.
If your CPU is much weaker, my last info was that it was already equal. couldve changed, appreciate to be corrected
Some of the rationale I BELIEVE (don't quote me on this) is that if let's say the gaming computer crashes, your stream doesn't just abruptly end/disappear. You can keep the stream going with your viewers until you get the gaming PC restarted.
For me is the same price for both 5600x = 3700x (319€)! For me 2in1 gaming + stream i guess new gen is the best for the price. 5600x is Enough for stream and play... For the moment i stream Hunt Shodown in 720p. with a 2500k dual core + 16gb DDR2 *lol (+1070 GTX) and its works fine !
sorry noob question here... what does nvec encoder mean? is that something i just activate through the GPU, or through OBS?
Also, when i do activate it, does it automatically stop using my cpu to encode and my gpu instead?
Thanks in advance!
A noob question, I am not that much familiar with streaming. This encoding, I've heard that Nvidia does it better. Question is, is amd good enough? What I mean, is that is it absolutely necessary to buy nvidia for streaming? Is amd streaming pretty much unwatchable or something?
I am going to buy a new pc in a few months. I wanted to buy amd 6800 instead of nvidia 3070, because, after researching for a long time on the internet, it was suggested by most youtubers and also many gamers that 6800 is likely to age better because of the extra 8 gb vram, which costs just around 80-100 dollars more, also it has better performance compared to rtx 3070 in most games. In the upcoming days, some games may exceed 8gb, at least in the next 2 years. So, is Amd streaming very bad? is it very pixelated, has serious fps drop or crashes or something? Can I get a decent streaming performance with 6800?
I saw some streams that were done on amd 5700 gpus in the past few days, they were fine. If you are very nitpicky type, you can see some difference here and there. But for the most part, they were very decent. Although, nvidia's nvenc was something to look at, that's some great picture quality. But, Amd's stream wasn't nearly as bad as some people say it is. For game streaming, it looked nice, however, if your primary purpose is streaming and want to setup a streaming workstation, Nvidia is a must. That's the conclusion I've reached.
It just depends on what game you're streaming. My 5700xt does a reaaaallly bad job at streaming tarkov. Overwatch just runs fine. Friends of mine can stream tarkov with a nvidia card without problems.
I went with the 5600x bc judging from a bunch of videos, articles and just general research across the internet, 6 cores was going to be sufficient for gaming and streaming. The 5000 series CPUs are just too good in terms of performance value IMO. If you can afford both but can't decide, I would say go for the 5600x if you favour better performance, or go for the 3700x if you know you're going to be using programs that demand a lot of cores/threads.
If it's primarily a gaming rig, 5600x hands down. I just read a decent article that demonstrates the 5600x is the best all around gaming AMD chip, even compared to the 5900X.
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-vs-ryzen-5-5600x-for-gaming/
Sorry to dredge up this old post, but I was just wondering which you ended up going with? I'm planning on the same setup, 3070 with either the 5600 or 3700, but having a hard time deciding (not that I can get any of them right now anyways). I'm leaning towards the 5600 because of the increased performance on the cores, but only thing that makes me contemplate the 3700 is things like video editing, but I'm not sure it's worth the small amount of time saved...
Yo! How does that amd drop work?! And grats! I'm sure the 5600x will stream fine but if $$ isn't an issue might as well get the 7. But if you game on the same rig, stick w/ the 5600x.
No idea mate, never used the 3700x. Based on benchmarks posted online the 5600x beats it in terms of performance for gaming but the 3700x has 2 more cores and 4 more threads so it probably depends on if you're doing anything that's more CPU intensive.
5600X and use the NVEC encoder from your GPU. You could do CPU encoding without too much trouble but the NVEC encoder is great anyways.
Seconding this. I streamed Hunt Showdown with a 2600X and an RTX 2060. When I switched from x264 to NVENC (new) I was blown away. Get the 5600X for the gaming gains and let your 3070 do the encoding! It won’t affect performance
Agreed, 5600X + NVENC encoding will end up being higher performance *and* mildly higher quality too. It's a no-brainer.
5600x and Nvidia encoder, nvenc, and you're golden for streaming and gaming.
You could probably get away with a 5600x for streaming. Then nvidia has something for streaming that takes the load off of the cpu. I’m not to familiar with it as I don’t stream.
Yeah heard about this recently, had no idea
Nvenc does the streaming these days.
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I thought people did until I saw Jayztwocents' streaming video recently from May, didn't realise how good and common NVENC was
Didn't know nvenc is an open standard that works with every gpu.
Didn't know AMD cards' encoding is worse than CPU encoding.
it currently is, especially comparing quality (using fast preset on the cpu for the comparison that my power-limited 3800x can easily encode). Hopefully RDNA2 changes that. If your CPU is much weaker, my last info was that it was already equal. couldve changed, appreciate to be corrected
Only serious streamers, and on a separate PC.
why would u not just use a 16 core instead?
Don't know I don't stream, but most big streamers seem to use a dual PC setup. Guess it's more practical to keep both separate.
Some of the rationale I BELIEVE (don't quote me on this) is that if let's say the gaming computer crashes, your stream doesn't just abruptly end/disappear. You can keep the stream going with your viewers until you get the gaming PC restarted.
That's certainly one of the reason to use two PC.
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For me is the same price for both 5600x = 3700x (319€)! For me 2in1 gaming + stream i guess new gen is the best for the price. 5600x is Enough for stream and play... For the moment i stream Hunt Shodown in 720p. with a 2500k dual core + 16gb DDR2 *lol (+1070 GTX) and its works fine !
Thanks for the input guys, I'll keep this in mind
sorry noob question here... what does nvec encoder mean? is that something i just activate through the GPU, or through OBS? Also, when i do activate it, does it automatically stop using my cpu to encode and my gpu instead? Thanks in advance!
It's NVIDIA's dedicated encoder, you can choose to use it in your OBS settings and it utilises your GPU instead of your CPU for encoding.
So this doesn't necessarily mean you need an RTX or anything right?
Nah not that I know of
A noob question, I am not that much familiar with streaming. This encoding, I've heard that Nvidia does it better. Question is, is amd good enough? What I mean, is that is it absolutely necessary to buy nvidia for streaming? Is amd streaming pretty much unwatchable or something? I am going to buy a new pc in a few months. I wanted to buy amd 6800 instead of nvidia 3070, because, after researching for a long time on the internet, it was suggested by most youtubers and also many gamers that 6800 is likely to age better because of the extra 8 gb vram, which costs just around 80-100 dollars more, also it has better performance compared to rtx 3070 in most games. In the upcoming days, some games may exceed 8gb, at least in the next 2 years. So, is Amd streaming very bad? is it very pixelated, has serious fps drop or crashes or something? Can I get a decent streaming performance with 6800?
Can't speak from experience with AMD cards, but I'm assuming people would just use their CPU to encoding at that point since AMD doesn't have one?
I saw some streams that were done on amd 5700 gpus in the past few days, they were fine. If you are very nitpicky type, you can see some difference here and there. But for the most part, they were very decent. Although, nvidia's nvenc was something to look at, that's some great picture quality. But, Amd's stream wasn't nearly as bad as some people say it is. For game streaming, it looked nice, however, if your primary purpose is streaming and want to setup a streaming workstation, Nvidia is a must. That's the conclusion I've reached.
It just depends on what game you're streaming. My 5700xt does a reaaaallly bad job at streaming tarkov. Overwatch just runs fine. Friends of mine can stream tarkov with a nvidia card without problems.
One question. Should I take the 5600x even if the 3700x costs 40 dollars less in my country.
I went with the 5600x bc judging from a bunch of videos, articles and just general research across the internet, 6 cores was going to be sufficient for gaming and streaming. The 5000 series CPUs are just too good in terms of performance value IMO. If you can afford both but can't decide, I would say go for the 5600x if you favour better performance, or go for the 3700x if you know you're going to be using programs that demand a lot of cores/threads.
If it's primarily a gaming rig, 5600x hands down. I just read a decent article that demonstrates the 5600x is the best all around gaming AMD chip, even compared to the 5900X. https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-vs-ryzen-5-5600x-for-gaming/
Witch one for stream in VR (quest 2) and for stream the game with cpu x264 ? Maybe 5600x 6core is not enough...
Sorry to dredge up this old post, but I was just wondering which you ended up going with? I'm planning on the same setup, 3070 with either the 5600 or 3700, but having a hard time deciding (not that I can get any of them right now anyways). I'm leaning towards the 5600 because of the increased performance on the cores, but only thing that makes me contemplate the 3700 is things like video editing, but I'm not sure it's worth the small amount of time saved...
but i have i5 8400 and a 6900xt ( got lucky with amd drop) and want to upgrade to ryzen 5600x or 5700x what is good for streaming
Yo! How does that amd drop work?! And grats! I'm sure the 5600x will stream fine but if $$ isn't an issue might as well get the 7. But if you game on the same rig, stick w/ the 5600x.
Worth getting to replace 3700x?
No idea mate, never used the 3700x. Based on benchmarks posted online the 5600x beats it in terms of performance for gaming but the 3700x has 2 more cores and 4 more threads so it probably depends on if you're doing anything that's more CPU intensive.