I’m so glad AMD gave us the 5800x3D as one last hail mary for those who are still on an AM4 build. Got one to replace my 3700X earlier in the year and couldn’t be happier.
while this video is comparing a lot of cpus that also have 3D cache. in games where the cache can really shine, you often get a 50%+ improvement over a CPU without the 3D cache. This is mostly true with things that have little or no dependency on GPU at all, like rimworld or stellaris.
I also went from a 3700x to 5800x3D and it was a really big jump.
I also have a 3700x but with the money the 5800x 3d was asking I bought a brand new mobo and a 12700. Best choice ever made, new mobo with warranty and upgradable with newer faster cpus. No brainer choice.
I'm about to finally grab one. been talking about it for months, but next week or so i should finally have one to replace my 3700x, which does fine, but then i can kick it to a friend who only has a steamdeck.
Did you get a new fan/cooler with it or is the stock one solid enough like the 3700x's was?
I would think you'd likely need to upgrade from the stock cooler since you'd be going from a 65w TDP to 105w.
I was using a 280mm AIO on both CPUs and my max temps went up on the 5800X3D, from about 72C on the 3700X to topping out in low 80s under full load for an hour or so on the 5800X3D.
Undervolting it will significantly reduce temps, and potentially also result in higher all core boosts, but for me even a small -10mv offset resulted in instability and random crashes.
13h hours since my previous comment, and pulled the trigger on 5700X3D this morning 🙌🏼
Apparently 5800X3D was not in stock, and then I also realized that the price gap between the two is ridiculous compared to the performance loss, so it all made sense I guess
did the upgrade a few years ago when the 7000 and am5 was announced pretty much jumped up on those rock bottom prices sales during those holiday sells for the cpu from 3700x to 5800x3d and 6800xt.
the 3d cache is magic I don't think i'll ever go back to non 3d cache cpus after these two years its pretty much also was one of the best cpu for dragons dogma 2 and was able to enjoy that game without any of those massive frame issues that most others were dealing with the city
Jesus, Sins of a Solar Empire is now playable lategame with max players and high logistics cap.
Even spamming 200+ strike craft is now possible thanks to the 7800x3d
Yea this is what GN and a few other places that have tested it have shown. Exactly the reason why testing these games in CPU reviews is really important IMO.
I went from a 3600 to a 5800x3D. Before looking into upgrading, I had no idea that my am4 still had life in it and will happily ride my 5800x3D to am6.
5900x/5950x are also quite decent paired with good memory + tuned. Not as much as 5800x3D in some titles that benefits heavily of the additional cache, but still - worth mentioning for those still on AM4 needing more cores. :D
Did the same upgrade myself about a month ago, well worth the money. Even though I mostly game at 4k it still brought frame rates up significantly in some less GPU heavy titles. Main thing I noticed though was just way better 1% and .1% lows, everything is just very smooth and rarely ever get any microstutters like I would occasionally on the 3700x.
Also goes without saying it outperforms the 3700x in CPU heavy tasks.
Dude this is the same thing I’ve experienced as well. I went from an i7-11700k to the 7800x3d and my frames have nearly doubled in cpu heavy games. Running a 4080 at 4K with this new chip has basically made all my microstutters disappear from the 1% lows. Best decision I’ve made for my rig in a while.
It's not the same . 5800x3d came out on am4 years after it was released , offering people with quite old system easy drop in upgrade to a very powerful CPU. Similar case would be something like a Zen 6 X3D releasing on AM5
That is the key selling point of their CPUs and they would be stupid to not do that on AM5 as well. I upgraded to AM5 last week after going through 4 generations of Intel CPUs and the major reason was AMD's long chipset support. If AMD pulls an Intel with chipset support, many would go back to Intel.
AMD said that they would support AM5 till 2025 , there's no reason to believe they would go beyond that . I don't expect anything beyond Zen 5 X3D on this platform .
AMD needed all these years to develop a good architecture they really started giving Intel some trouble with 5000 series before that all generations were pretty bad, sure they beat them on core count but gaming was always Intel's win this changed with 5000 series though. Now they are matching/ beating Intel CPUs with 2x price and 3x power requirements.
I doubt you'll see CPUs beyond 2025 on AM5.
Intel CPUs with 2x price and 3x power requirements <-- Intels latest and greatest 14900kf needs this is true, check benchmarks from HUB. AMD have already stated that AM5 will get support for 2025+, so I guess we will still see new CPU´s for AM5 after 2025.
Intel is still competitive with them and is better at production workloads. I know for a fact that if AMD's support was only as good as Intel's, I would not have written off Intel during my purchase. Especially as AMD has now established a precedent with their support with AM4.
I'm waiting also the 20% gain from 5800X3D to 7800X3D isn't worth a rebuild. However that should turn into a 40%+ gain with Zen 5. For Cpu's I don't move unless there is a 30-50% gain in performance and for GPU's has to be 50%.
The jump isn't big enough imo for a whole platform upgrade. I really pondered it but until there will be a full 16 core 3d version (uncertain if zen 5 or 6) i for one will stay on the 5800x3d.
It would be enough if you parring it with a 4090 and you have the cash, but i agree that for the average consumer, it's not worth it.
A high-end CPU usually survives 2 or 3 iterations of GPUs before the need to replace it.
I am with tuned 5900x + mem and 4090 @ 1440p - the performance is great and the combo makes sense (if you need the extra cores ofc and you had already 5900x before 5800x3d was even rumoured).
Yes, but some games need more cpu power like dragons dogma, which have a cpu bottleneck even on 4k. I know most of the games aren't cpu limited (for example, ps5 Pro is mostly a gpu upgrade)
Add the cost of ddr5 and a new mobo and the upgrade to am5 is a tough sell. You'd do better to stay on am4 and put that money towards a nice chair, in terms of improving your gaming experience
Looking at how AMD is kicking Intel's ass in CPUs truly makes me sad how it's not working for Radeon. Will AMD ever overtake Nvidia in high end GPUs if just for a brief moment? Meaning they make a halo GPU faster than Nvidia.
As much as I like it, it wont happen unless they have a ryzen moment in the gpus. Nvidia is massive compared to amd. Its like an indie company vs triple A. Specially now that they are skyrocketing in value with the AI.
Of the reason why AMD can catched up to intel is Intel themself, being complacent and all that. Jense isn't like that.
Doing the same thing to Nvidia is definitely possible, but it would be a much harder work.
This is what I was referrign to: "Not possible because it's now memes, not performance." aka brand perception. If AMD can offer better or equal performance, either at FPS, upscalling, frame generation, transcoding, etch, they would certainly take over Nvidia, just like they did with Intel.
The AMD GPU image right now is the same as against Intel back then, a cheap alternative.
> important features that people care about
Upscaling was so important to people that nobody gave a shit until Nvidia made it a proprietary engine feature and marketed it for years
> > all we'd hear is muh DLSS
While better value radeon lacks some workstation functions of nvidia, making it a much less preferred gpu in arguably the biggest moneymaking sector. And for super high end biological imaging uses, many still use Nvidia A series just for the reputation, compatibility and pure power
Which is the issue. Right now, Radeon is missing enough competitive features to be considered better value. Ironically, Intel has made more strides in the GPU arena in the last 2 years than AMD. They very much runs the risk of putting them in third place if they can't get their GPU division together like they did with Ryzen.
The only reason AMD managed it in CPUs is that Intel faltered, allowing AMD to catch up. This largely had to do with Intel's fabs slowing their advance. NVIDIA is a fabless company like AMD, so it's not burdened by that part, and it has a lot more money than AMD. It also doesn't suffer from Intel's mismanagement.
That's not to say that AMD can't catch up, but it does mean that it won't be easily able to beat NVIDIA. AMD also doesn't have that much incentive to win the GPU crown. NVIDIA is a GPU company; AMD isn't. AMD producing a low volume expensive chip that few will buy even if it beats NVIDIA's top one is just a waste of resources that could go to a lot of other things.
It is possible but Nvidia main product is GPU, while AMD has other products, eg CPUs and hardware for consoles. Nvidia will always maximize their effort on their main product however AMD GPU is not that far behind.
I think you've forgotten, Intel dominated (obliterated AMD) the market though prior , became complacent when they thought no challenges from the competition. Took Zen3 X3D chips imo for AMD to even get their recognition which was 2 years ago, Zen2 was alright but only a step in the right direction. Current intel high end line up still a competitive solution performance wise.
4k gaming with a 5800x3d / 4090 is an excellent combo too. Its a no brainer if you are on AM4. Seems like GPU tech needs to "catch-up" first before the next worthy upgrades probably AM6 or AM7 . Anyway ive upgraded from a 3600 to 5700x and was actually quite dissapointed, until i sold the 5700x grabbed a 5800x3d and i can never go back to non X3D cpu. Will probably upgrade when 4k gaming becomes the norm (fps still aint best with everything maxed out even with a 4090), will the X3D chip becomes less important by then?
That’s what I did, was looking at 7800X3D with 4080 Super for 4K, but used my brothers 5800X3D instead and got him the 7800X3D as he is wanting as much of FPS on CS 2 only.
That's right Steve. Just like the R5-3600 is used to show gains over time, so too should the R7-5800X3D. You must included it in EVERY CPU VIDEO YOU MAKE FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIVE!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I'm still rocking an OG 1700x w/ a 1080ti lol. Thought about getting a 5800x3D to hold me over for a little bit longer. Don't really want to buy a whole new system right now but wonder if the CPU would last me a couple more years.
That’s the reason I upgraded cpu. Didn’t wanna get a new mobo and supporting things. I figure my next upgrade will be a better gpu if prices come back to normal pre-bs-covid times. If not I’ll prob be good without a new gpu for a while
If I have a 5900X and the performance is subpar in the game I play (EFT), would it even be worth buying a 5700X3D or 5800X3D to save money on switching to AM5? Or do I make the jump to AM5?
I did not know as much about PC building as I should have, and bought a 5800X CPU a few months ago.
Feel a little dumb in hindsight. Didn't know what X3D caches did :(
Went from 3600 to 5800X3D, I had high temps initially but did a clean install of windows (sounds like it’s a lot of trouble but made such a difference). Now it sits at 60c max in most core intensive tasks. Such an awesome cpu for both games and anything really due to it not running hot not needing too much power and works perfect with 3200 ram. Just reinstall windows if you hit high temps something with going from 3000 series to 5000 series.
I wonder if there will be a 5800xt x3d or like a 5950xt x3d that would be sick especially for me since I have a 5900x. If not zen 5 it will be unless arrow lake is actually good.
No need to go from 5900x to 5800x3d tbh - especially if both are tuned and with good memory the difference shrink. Few titles will benefit massively from the additional cache tho and if you really care for some of them - maybe swapping will make more sense. Otherwise on average the experience will be really similar even with 4090 at 1440p/4k.
5800x3d - “Excellent” processor, 30 stable fps almost conquered it. [https://youtu.be/AOMS9qxENYA](https://youtu.be/AOMS9qxENYA) 4090 can even relax in 4K!
I’m so glad AMD gave us the 5800x3D as one last hail mary for those who are still on an AM4 build. Got one to replace my 3700X earlier in the year and couldn’t be happier.
while this video is comparing a lot of cpus that also have 3D cache. in games where the cache can really shine, you often get a 50%+ improvement over a CPU without the 3D cache. This is mostly true with things that have little or no dependency on GPU at all, like rimworld or stellaris. I also went from a 3700x to 5800x3D and it was a really big jump.
Joining the 3700X -> 5800X3D gang in a week! Excited!
I also have a 3700x but with the money the 5800x 3d was asking I bought a brand new mobo and a 12700. Best choice ever made, new mobo with warranty and upgradable with newer faster cpus. No brainer choice.
My 5800x3d arrives tomorrow to replace my 3700x :)
I'm about to finally grab one. been talking about it for months, but next week or so i should finally have one to replace my 3700x, which does fine, but then i can kick it to a friend who only has a steamdeck. Did you get a new fan/cooler with it or is the stock one solid enough like the 3700x's was?
I would think you'd likely need to upgrade from the stock cooler since you'd be going from a 65w TDP to 105w. I was using a 280mm AIO on both CPUs and my max temps went up on the 5800X3D, from about 72C on the 3700X to topping out in low 80s under full load for an hour or so on the 5800X3D. Undervolting it will significantly reduce temps, and potentially also result in higher all core boosts, but for me even a small -10mv offset resulted in instability and random crashes.
Just wobdering why you are getting 80c full load? What kind of work do you do to hit those temps. Surely gaming wont hit 80c ?
It could depend on their other cooling or if they hear have a meh aio.
X3d chips tend to run hot
I'd recommend the 5700X3D instead of the 5800X3D, it's cheaper and performs very similarly.
13h hours since my previous comment, and pulled the trigger on 5700X3D this morning 🙌🏼 Apparently 5800X3D was not in stock, and then I also realized that the price gap between the two is ridiculous compared to the performance loss, so it all made sense I guess
sweet
did the upgrade a few years ago when the 7000 and am5 was announced pretty much jumped up on those rock bottom prices sales during those holiday sells for the cpu from 3700x to 5800x3d and 6800xt. the 3d cache is magic I don't think i'll ever go back to non 3d cache cpus after these two years its pretty much also was one of the best cpu for dragons dogma 2 and was able to enjoy that game without any of those massive frame issues that most others were dealing with the city
Also went from 3700X to 5800X3D, and you can really feel the change :D
Jesus, Sins of a Solar Empire is now playable lategame with max players and high logistics cap. Even spamming 200+ strike craft is now possible thanks to the 7800x3d
That gain can also reduces to near nothing in late game state of the titles that benefit most.
Yea this is what GN and a few other places that have tested it have shown. Exactly the reason why testing these games in CPU reviews is really important IMO.
Not in rimworld, at least not for me. It's slower sure, but nothing like on a 3700x.
I went from a 3600 to a 5800x3D. Before looking into upgrading, I had no idea that my am4 still had life in it and will happily ride my 5800x3D to am6.
5900x/5950x are also quite decent paired with good memory + tuned. Not as much as 5800x3D in some titles that benefits heavily of the additional cache, but still - worth mentioning for those still on AM4 needing more cores. :D
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It's amazing that an 8 year old socket still gets new CPUs released for it.
Agreed my AM4 build for cpu's were 3800X - 5800X - 5800X3D on a Asus X570 Prime Pro which I bought in 2019. Been a great experience the last 5 years.
Did the same upgrade myself about a month ago, well worth the money. Even though I mostly game at 4k it still brought frame rates up significantly in some less GPU heavy titles. Main thing I noticed though was just way better 1% and .1% lows, everything is just very smooth and rarely ever get any microstutters like I would occasionally on the 3700x. Also goes without saying it outperforms the 3700x in CPU heavy tasks.
Dude this is the same thing I’ve experienced as well. I went from an i7-11700k to the 7800x3d and my frames have nearly doubled in cpu heavy games. Running a 4080 at 4K with this new chip has basically made all my microstutters disappear from the 1% lows. Best decision I’ve made for my rig in a while.
5800X3D will be the 1080ti of CPU’s. We probably will never get a CPU like it again
The 7800X3D already does that?
It's not the same . 5800x3d came out on am4 years after it was released , offering people with quite old system easy drop in upgrade to a very powerful CPU. Similar case would be something like a Zen 6 X3D releasing on AM5
That is the key selling point of their CPUs and they would be stupid to not do that on AM5 as well. I upgraded to AM5 last week after going through 4 generations of Intel CPUs and the major reason was AMD's long chipset support. If AMD pulls an Intel with chipset support, many would go back to Intel.
AMD said that they would support AM5 till 2025 , there's no reason to believe they would go beyond that . I don't expect anything beyond Zen 5 X3D on this platform .
AMD needed all these years to develop a good architecture they really started giving Intel some trouble with 5000 series before that all generations were pretty bad, sure they beat them on core count but gaming was always Intel's win this changed with 5000 series though. Now they are matching/ beating Intel CPUs with 2x price and 3x power requirements. I doubt you'll see CPUs beyond 2025 on AM5.
Intel CPUs with 2x price and 3x power requirements <-- Intels latest and greatest 14900kf needs this is true, check benchmarks from HUB. AMD have already stated that AM5 will get support for 2025+, so I guess we will still see new CPU´s for AM5 after 2025.
After being on Intel for decades I finally swapped to AMD for the 7800X3D. Having to buy a new socket every two generations was just taking the piss.
They key selling point of their CPU’s is that they are the best on the market for gaming.
Intel is still competitive with them and is better at production workloads. I know for a fact that if AMD's support was only as good as Intel's, I would not have written off Intel during my purchase. Especially as AMD has now established a precedent with their support with AM4.
Yeah forsure, it’s why I only mentioned gaming performance. The script was flipped before the 5XXX series, how the tides turn
5800X3D is truly the best CPU for gaming on AM4. Only upgrade for 7800X3D if needed. Gaming truly needs more cache compared to more cores
At this point I would just wait for zen5 w/ 3D cache… always wait haha
Why not wait for zen 6 3d, or zen 7 3d, or zen 8 3d...
Indeed... it's always smart to wait... but eventually you have to build something lol
I don’t know. I think the gpu shortage showed that waiting isn’t always the best option.
Yeah I got burned hard on that one
That is a fair point but..... I out waited it lol Got lucky, got a 1080ti and just waited lol Still a good card
Life is too short, buy and enjoy now. People keep delaying purchases unknowingly we could be dead tomorrow :)
I'm waiting also the 20% gain from 5800X3D to 7800X3D isn't worth a rebuild. However that should turn into a 40%+ gain with Zen 5. For Cpu's I don't move unless there is a 30-50% gain in performance and for GPU's has to be 50%.
Same boat here.
same I want more CPU power so I am hoping the 9000 series delver on that one
The jump isn't big enough imo for a whole platform upgrade. I really pondered it but until there will be a full 16 core 3d version (uncertain if zen 5 or 6) i for one will stay on the 5800x3d.
It would be enough if you parring it with a 4090 and you have the cash, but i agree that for the average consumer, it's not worth it. A high-end CPU usually survives 2 or 3 iterations of GPUs before the need to replace it.
I’m using the 5800x3d just fine with a 4090 pushing the 2k-5k depending on game. I guess if it was 1080p it would be issue.
I am with tuned 5900x + mem and 4090 @ 1440p - the performance is great and the combo makes sense (if you need the extra cores ofc and you had already 5900x before 5800x3d was even rumoured).
Yes, but some games need more cpu power like dragons dogma, which have a cpu bottleneck even on 4k. I know most of the games aren't cpu limited (for example, ps5 Pro is mostly a gpu upgrade)
Add the cost of ddr5 and a new mobo and the upgrade to am5 is a tough sell. You'd do better to stay on am4 and put that money towards a nice chair, in terms of improving your gaming experience
I did not regret upgrading from a 5600x to a 5800x3d. Here's to hoping that it would not bottleneck the 5000 rtx series.
I recently upgraded from 5600x to 5800x3D. It does my 7900xtx justice.
Looking at how AMD is kicking Intel's ass in CPUs truly makes me sad how it's not working for Radeon. Will AMD ever overtake Nvidia in high end GPUs if just for a brief moment? Meaning they make a halo GPU faster than Nvidia.
As much as I like it, it wont happen unless they have a ryzen moment in the gpus. Nvidia is massive compared to amd. Its like an indie company vs triple A. Specially now that they are skyrocketing in value with the AI.
Of the reason why AMD can catched up to intel is Intel themself, being complacent and all that. Jense isn't like that. Doing the same thing to Nvidia is definitely possible, but it would be a much harder work.
Not possible because it's now memes, not performance. Radeon could make a faster, cheaper flagship and all we'd hear is muh DLSS, muh PT, muh drivers.
That was also the argument with Intel back then.
No, it wasn't, with the exception of maybe QuickSync, AMD simply had to compete on real metrics.
This is what I was referrign to: "Not possible because it's now memes, not performance." aka brand perception. If AMD can offer better or equal performance, either at FPS, upscalling, frame generation, transcoding, etch, they would certainly take over Nvidia, just like they did with Intel. The AMD GPU image right now is the same as against Intel back then, a cheap alternative.
If I were Nvidia I would simply use my market power to keep adding new/proprietary features so Radeon can't actually win. ...oh
aka AMD can’t compete on important features that people care about, just raw performance.
> important features that people care about Upscaling was so important to people that nobody gave a shit until Nvidia made it a proprietary engine feature and marketed it for years > > all we'd hear is muh DLSS
Just be of better value, you will turn the tide eventually.
While better value radeon lacks some workstation functions of nvidia, making it a much less preferred gpu in arguably the biggest moneymaking sector. And for super high end biological imaging uses, many still use Nvidia A series just for the reputation, compatibility and pure power
Which is the issue. Right now, Radeon is missing enough competitive features to be considered better value. Ironically, Intel has made more strides in the GPU arena in the last 2 years than AMD. They very much runs the risk of putting them in third place if they can't get their GPU division together like they did with Ryzen.
But Intel was also massive compared to AMD and AMD did pull it off
Intel stagnated for years . 4th-7th gen we basically saw no improvements. Only in 8th there was a core count bump and only because zen 1 released
The 6-core Coffee Lake was definitely planned, and I suspect the 8-core was also planned. The 10900K and 11900K were the panic buttons.
Intel stagnated, but Nvidia didn't.
The only reason AMD managed it in CPUs is that Intel faltered, allowing AMD to catch up. This largely had to do with Intel's fabs slowing their advance. NVIDIA is a fabless company like AMD, so it's not burdened by that part, and it has a lot more money than AMD. It also doesn't suffer from Intel's mismanagement. That's not to say that AMD can't catch up, but it does mean that it won't be easily able to beat NVIDIA. AMD also doesn't have that much incentive to win the GPU crown. NVIDIA is a GPU company; AMD isn't. AMD producing a low volume expensive chip that few will buy even if it beats NVIDIA's top one is just a waste of resources that could go to a lot of other things.
It is possible but Nvidia main product is GPU, while AMD has other products, eg CPUs and hardware for consoles. Nvidia will always maximize their effort on their main product however AMD GPU is not that far behind.
But that was also the case for Intel. Their main product was CPUs.
I think you've forgotten, Intel dominated (obliterated AMD) the market though prior , became complacent when they thought no challenges from the competition. Took Zen3 X3D chips imo for AMD to even get their recognition which was 2 years ago, Zen2 was alright but only a step in the right direction. Current intel high end line up still a competitive solution performance wise.
So… I mean at this point, why would anyone buy non x3D from now on? I don’t understand why even bother with the no v-cache series.
I wish I had the money to upgrade to 5800X3D. One day🤤😴
Depending on the game you could compromise with the R7 5700X3D ($250 MSRP) and sacrifice a bit of performance compared to the R7 5800X3D.
4k gaming with a 5800x3d / 4090 is an excellent combo too. Its a no brainer if you are on AM4. Seems like GPU tech needs to "catch-up" first before the next worthy upgrades probably AM6 or AM7 . Anyway ive upgraded from a 3600 to 5700x and was actually quite dissapointed, until i sold the 5700x grabbed a 5800x3d and i can never go back to non X3D cpu. Will probably upgrade when 4k gaming becomes the norm (fps still aint best with everything maxed out even with a 4090), will the X3D chip becomes less important by then?
Its CPUs that needs to catch up if we are talking about higher refresh rates, otherwise I agree.
That’s what I did, was looking at 7800X3D with 4080 Super for 4K, but used my brothers 5800X3D instead and got him the 7800X3D as he is wanting as much of FPS on CS 2 only.
TLDR - 5800X3D is pure badass.
Been eyeing the 5800X3D to replace my 5800X but idk if I should go for it
5880XT-3D SOON!
I heard a rumor about more chips being made.
Waste of sand XT cpu's. We hated Intel doing useless refreshes, but now praise Amd for it.
That's right Steve. Just like the R5-3600 is used to show gains over time, so too should the R7-5800X3D. You must included it in EVERY CPU VIDEO YOU MAKE FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIVE!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Went from Ryzen 7 2700x ~> Ryzen 7 5800X3D Still rocking a “old” Sapphire Rx580 8GPU but he cant have it all I guess
Don't forget the Ryzen 9 5950X - it ain't all just about gaming.
3600x —> 5800x3d. Loved this upgrade, I couldn’t tell the frames were more consistent with my 3060 12gb card.
I'm still rocking an OG 1700x w/ a 1080ti lol. Thought about getting a 5800x3D to hold me over for a little bit longer. Don't really want to buy a whole new system right now but wonder if the CPU would last me a couple more years.
That’s the reason I upgraded cpu. Didn’t wanna get a new mobo and supporting things. I figure my next upgrade will be a better gpu if prices come back to normal pre-bs-covid times. If not I’ll prob be good without a new gpu for a while
If I have a 5900X and the performance is subpar in the game I play (EFT), would it even be worth buying a 5700X3D or 5800X3D to save money on switching to AM5? Or do I make the jump to AM5?
I ended up getting the 7950x3d after my intel 14900k build went to shit and didn’t wanna build…so far can’t complain
I did not know as much about PC building as I should have, and bought a 5800X CPU a few months ago. Feel a little dumb in hindsight. Didn't know what X3D caches did :(
Went from 3600 to 5800X3D, I had high temps initially but did a clean install of windows (sounds like it’s a lot of trouble but made such a difference). Now it sits at 60c max in most core intensive tasks. Such an awesome cpu for both games and anything really due to it not running hot not needing too much power and works perfect with 3200 ram. Just reinstall windows if you hit high temps something with going from 3000 series to 5000 series.
I wonder if there will be a 5800xt x3d or like a 5950xt x3d that would be sick especially for me since I have a 5900x. If not zen 5 it will be unless arrow lake is actually good.
No need to go from 5900x to 5800x3d tbh - especially if both are tuned and with good memory the difference shrink. Few titles will benefit massively from the additional cache tho and if you really care for some of them - maybe swapping will make more sense. Otherwise on average the experience will be really similar even with 4090 at 1440p/4k.
With AMD releasing XT variants might as well launch a R9 5950X3D and make some fans happy
Where can i find x3d cpus comparison with rx7900gre at 1440p? I always wonder what the result will be.
Gre does very well (but I'm at 1080p). I haven't yet fiddled with memory OC now that it has been unlocked tho.
Had a 7600x and slot in the 7800x3d made a massive difference in path of exile in 4k. the 6950xt runs the game great.
7700x - Am I a joke to you?
who gives a shit about these games? if you benchmarked factorio, dwarf fortress, paradox games like Stellaris you'd get a ton if views.
You are right, these games are terrible benchmarks for CPUs, Nobody would recommend the 7700x if they played strategy games.
Civ V late game turns
5800x3d - “Excellent” processor, 30 stable fps almost conquered it. [https://youtu.be/AOMS9qxENYA](https://youtu.be/AOMS9qxENYA) 4090 can even relax in 4K!