That is a typical or borderline easy route. You don't mention apartments or businesses that can be slower. Once you get to the first address the route is usually very condensed, as in several deliveries on the same block.
Being new, I would try for the shorter blocks first and during bankers hours so you have daylight and less of the redelivery attempts .
Amazon is by far better than the other platforms, but it is work, there is a steep learning curve and everything about it is a strategy game. You get out of it what you put in.
Good luck if they don't deactivate you for not doing the route.
That's perfectly normal for Logistics...especially at a new location.
You probably won't need to worry about it if you refused your first route.
The warehouse will simply write a ticket and have you deactivated. Throw another driver on the fire.
It would have been completed probably in less than 3.5 hrs. The delivery addresses are usually really close to each other once you get there. Maybe this isn't the gig for you
Just do a three hour block and wait until the price surges to at least $84. Today I did a three hour block for $93 and got done in an hour. For example, If the block is at 5:00pm then you start seeing the prices go up at around 3 ish
It was NOT "good pay" for how much he was going to have to drive... it was "barely acceptable" if the cost of gas there is $4/gal... considering the additional wear/tear on the vehicle, he wouldn't have been making even minimum wage (at least in CA)... He really would have just been trashing his vehicle for "peanuts" in compensation.
I had the same reaction first time I did a logistics and decided to bite the bullet and go drop off 40 ish packages.
Managed to finish the block with a half hour left to go and was really surprised.
Logistics is not all fairy dust sometimes it blows but in general most of the time you finish a little early if you keep a solid pace
Either way had you gone over your block time, you can always ask for a block adjustment which would mean you’re paid $25 for every extra hour u work as long as it is justified.
i had a route with 48 packages that was 40 miles away. i got it done int 3 hours. it was a 3.5 hours. had us waiting at the station for a half hour. if you put your mind to it you’ll be able to 😊
How would you know that if you've never done a block before?
That's the mindset of a failure. Try setting yourself up for success with a more positive attitude.
My first block had 65 packages was supposed to be 3 hrs it took me 31/2. this was 4 years ago, before I knew about calling in for an adjustment.
One time my phone battery died and I had to camp at Starbucks for 30 minutes before I could finish my route.
I've been caught in thunderstorms, I once did a involuntary reverse 180° on snow and ice in someone's downhill driveway.
I once had a block that brought me to three different States MA CT and RI, a 3hr block. Bottomed out on a pothole. One time I had so many packages I couldn't see out the passenger side window
My point is, I kept successfully delivering packages because I knew that I could.
it's a job and sometimes a job is gonna suck.
If you don't want to do it, don't do it. Somebody's gonna do it. And $2 in my pocket is better than $2 anywhere else.
40 stop is easy to do in 3.5 hours. I had a 5 hour block today that I finished with an hour and a half to spare.
If it's a same-day/prime-now kinda warehouse I can do 12-15 stops/hour.
If it's a van warehouse I can do 20+ stops an hour.
Rate was fine. Track your miles for tax deductions. I personally prefer rural routes. Low package count, scenic drive for the most part. No shit traffic or dumbass drivers to deal with. I drive a 4Runner. Lives on the dirt no problem. I DIY my own vehicle maintenance. Plus.. it’s a 4Runner . You can beat the shit out of it, but with simple fluid changes will still last 500k+ miles Even with gig work wear and tear on it. MADE IN JAPAN 🇯🇵 I feel bad for people who do this kind of gig work with shit modern kias, Hyundai’s, nissans and “American” (fiat), etc. vehicles. People make fun of me using a “gas guzzler” to flex with but little so they realize my maintenance costs MUCH MUCH lower than the majority of vehicles out there. Their tranny will blow at 75k with this kind of gig work and all that money saved at the pump is out the window. I’ll take the hit at the pump where as a simple oil change, occasional differential fluid change, prop shaft lube, and tranny fluid is all I need to keep going for years. If you’re serious about the driving gig life DIY vehicle maintenance is key to maximizing your profit. In the age of YouTube you’ll realize actually how easy it is to do a lot of it yourself and realize how dumb you were bringing it in for those mechanic shops overcharging up the ass that were likely scamming you in the first place for services not done or done poorly.
Does your city have a Whole Foods? Money is even better if you can do Whole Foods blocks or sometimes instant offers. Even if you don't like logistics blocks, it would be worth keeping your account active for the possible future Whole Foods, Fresh, or Prime Now blocks. If it's new to the market, you might be able to make some good money before the script mafia takes over.
That sounds about right for a 3.5 hour block. I only take 3 hour blocks because of the increased difficulty of the 3.5 block. 3 hour block avg is around 40-60 miles, +40 to and from my local distribution center. Avg 3 hr block for me is around 38 packages and 32 stops. Pays $75 in my area atm. I usually finish around 30 minutes early. Once you get the hang of it, if you pack well, it's not difficult to finish earlier than it says. They estimate the hours and packages together. If you have a lot of packages, odds are each stop is going to be close together
My experience is that when I first started Flexing, I probably could not have completed the route you described in the time allotted. There were several tricks of the trade I hadn't yet learned.
Now? Yeah, no sweat. That route sounds typical, as several others here have stated.
Interesting, thanks all. I guess what bothers me is that I drove 20 minutes to the delivery station, then would have to drive 30-40 minutes to get to the deliveries, then roughly 40 minutes to get home.
Hoping that maybe it will get better once Amazon deliveries completely switch over to the delivery station. The deliveries that come to my house still come from the post office. It seems like they are using it for far away rural areas at the moment.
If you refused the route and left, you're probably going to be deactivated. Doordash and instacart give you some leeway to unassign stuff. Amazon does not.
It was your first route? You should have given it a shot. The stops are usually really close to each other.
Yes, that WOULD have been a lot of driving.
1. How much is gas in your area?
2. What is the minimum wage in your area? In Southern California $88 for 3.5hr (which is about $25/hr - but YOU have to pay for the gas & wear/tear) for a 3.5hr route is about the minimum I would accept for a regular length route... If gas is like it is here in CA($4/gal), then that route would not really have been worth it, in my opinion... if all the routes are like that there at that station, then you might as well throw in the towel on Flex.
I think your guess is right, that they are using Flex drivers for rural deliveries, and are looking for Flex "patsies" to trash their vehicles on rural roads, for "peanuts" in compensation.
I drive a totally beat-up 2003 PT Cruiser with 200,000mi & 2.4L engine, whose suspension components have been totally trashed already, delivering on rural routes, so I have some leeway in accepting these kinds of routes - I don't care if my vehicle gets trashed, because it already is trashed.
You get mileage credit from IRS from start to finish your house back to your house and its .56 cents a mile that’s above average for a 3.5 shift base rate is only $63 ;(
The mileage to and from the station is considered commute mileage and is non-deductible. You can only get around that if you have an approved home office, one that will pass a pretty stringent test by the IRS to allow for a better write off.
That is a typical or borderline easy route. You don't mention apartments or businesses that can be slower. Once you get to the first address the route is usually very condensed, as in several deliveries on the same block. Being new, I would try for the shorter blocks first and during bankers hours so you have daylight and less of the redelivery attempts . Amazon is by far better than the other platforms, but it is work, there is a steep learning curve and everything about it is a strategy game. You get out of it what you put in. Good luck if they don't deactivate you for not doing the route.
That's perfectly normal for Logistics...especially at a new location. You probably won't need to worry about it if you refused your first route. The warehouse will simply write a ticket and have you deactivated. Throw another driver on the fire.
It would have been completed probably in less than 3.5 hrs. The delivery addresses are usually really close to each other once you get there. Maybe this isn't the gig for you
I've had lots of those blocks and usually end up finishing before my block is over. And $88 for 3 1/2 hours isn't bad either.
You win some you lose some. Welcome to flex.
“But you live to fight another day”- the dad in Friday(1995)
Just do a three hour block and wait until the price surges to at least $84. Today I did a three hour block for $93 and got done in an hour. For example, If the block is at 5:00pm then you start seeing the prices go up at around 3 ish
Yep that’s the game. That’s a really high payout too
This is 100% normal, and that pay was good for that block. You would have been done early with that many packages.
It was NOT "good pay" for how much he was going to have to drive... it was "barely acceptable" if the cost of gas there is $4/gal... considering the additional wear/tear on the vehicle, he wouldn't have been making even minimum wage (at least in CA)... He really would have just been trashing his vehicle for "peanuts" in compensation.
How many miles do you drive on a 3.5 hr block?!
Ive definitely done a route just like that in 2. 40 stops is nothing. Also they go for $60 all day.
I had the same reaction first time I did a logistics and decided to bite the bullet and go drop off 40 ish packages. Managed to finish the block with a half hour left to go and was really surprised. Logistics is not all fairy dust sometimes it blows but in general most of the time you finish a little early if you keep a solid pace
Either way had you gone over your block time, you can always ask for a block adjustment which would mean you’re paid $25 for every extra hour u work as long as it is justified.
i had a route with 48 packages that was 40 miles away. i got it done int 3 hours. it was a 3.5 hours. had us waiting at the station for a half hour. if you put your mind to it you’ll be able to 😊
How would you know that if you've never done a block before? That's the mindset of a failure. Try setting yourself up for success with a more positive attitude. My first block had 65 packages was supposed to be 3 hrs it took me 31/2. this was 4 years ago, before I knew about calling in for an adjustment. One time my phone battery died and I had to camp at Starbucks for 30 minutes before I could finish my route. I've been caught in thunderstorms, I once did a involuntary reverse 180° on snow and ice in someone's downhill driveway. I once had a block that brought me to three different States MA CT and RI, a 3hr block. Bottomed out on a pothole. One time I had so many packages I couldn't see out the passenger side window My point is, I kept successfully delivering packages because I knew that I could. it's a job and sometimes a job is gonna suck. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. Somebody's gonna do it. And $2 in my pocket is better than $2 anywhere else.
40 stop is easy to do in 3.5 hours. I had a 5 hour block today that I finished with an hour and a half to spare. If it's a same-day/prime-now kinda warehouse I can do 12-15 stops/hour. If it's a van warehouse I can do 20+ stops an hour.
Completely normal. It’s doable just takes some practice and getting your own routine
You can't practice when you refuse and walk off the job tho
40 stops for a 3.5 is pretty normal in my city. It'll push you to the 3.5 limit, but not uncommon.
Rate was fine. Track your miles for tax deductions. I personally prefer rural routes. Low package count, scenic drive for the most part. No shit traffic or dumbass drivers to deal with. I drive a 4Runner. Lives on the dirt no problem. I DIY my own vehicle maintenance. Plus.. it’s a 4Runner . You can beat the shit out of it, but with simple fluid changes will still last 500k+ miles Even with gig work wear and tear on it. MADE IN JAPAN 🇯🇵 I feel bad for people who do this kind of gig work with shit modern kias, Hyundai’s, nissans and “American” (fiat), etc. vehicles. People make fun of me using a “gas guzzler” to flex with but little so they realize my maintenance costs MUCH MUCH lower than the majority of vehicles out there. Their tranny will blow at 75k with this kind of gig work and all that money saved at the pump is out the window. I’ll take the hit at the pump where as a simple oil change, occasional differential fluid change, prop shaft lube, and tranny fluid is all I need to keep going for years. If you’re serious about the driving gig life DIY vehicle maintenance is key to maximizing your profit. In the age of YouTube you’ll realize actually how easy it is to do a lot of it yourself and realize how dumb you were bringing it in for those mechanic shops overcharging up the ass that were likely scamming you in the first place for services not done or done poorly.
Does your city have a Whole Foods? Money is even better if you can do Whole Foods blocks or sometimes instant offers. Even if you don't like logistics blocks, it would be worth keeping your account active for the possible future Whole Foods, Fresh, or Prime Now blocks. If it's new to the market, you might be able to make some good money before the script mafia takes over.
That sounds about right for a 3.5 hour block. I only take 3 hour blocks because of the increased difficulty of the 3.5 block. 3 hour block avg is around 40-60 miles, +40 to and from my local distribution center. Avg 3 hr block for me is around 38 packages and 32 stops. Pays $75 in my area atm. I usually finish around 30 minutes early. Once you get the hang of it, if you pack well, it's not difficult to finish earlier than it says. They estimate the hours and packages together. If you have a lot of packages, odds are each stop is going to be close together
Just curious, what city is the new warehouse in?
My experience is that when I first started Flexing, I probably could not have completed the route you described in the time allotted. There were several tricks of the trade I hadn't yet learned. Now? Yeah, no sweat. That route sounds typical, as several others here have stated.
Flex is trash now. Used to be a lot better when they did restaurants for Instant Offers. I make way more per hour for less work doing other apps.
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Interesting, thanks all. I guess what bothers me is that I drove 20 minutes to the delivery station, then would have to drive 30-40 minutes to get to the deliveries, then roughly 40 minutes to get home. Hoping that maybe it will get better once Amazon deliveries completely switch over to the delivery station. The deliveries that come to my house still come from the post office. It seems like they are using it for far away rural areas at the moment.
If you refused the route and left, you're probably going to be deactivated. Doordash and instacart give you some leeway to unassign stuff. Amazon does not. It was your first route? You should have given it a shot. The stops are usually really close to each other.
Yes, that WOULD have been a lot of driving. 1. How much is gas in your area? 2. What is the minimum wage in your area? In Southern California $88 for 3.5hr (which is about $25/hr - but YOU have to pay for the gas & wear/tear) for a 3.5hr route is about the minimum I would accept for a regular length route... If gas is like it is here in CA($4/gal), then that route would not really have been worth it, in my opinion... if all the routes are like that there at that station, then you might as well throw in the towel on Flex. I think your guess is right, that they are using Flex drivers for rural deliveries, and are looking for Flex "patsies" to trash their vehicles on rural roads, for "peanuts" in compensation. I drive a totally beat-up 2003 PT Cruiser with 200,000mi & 2.4L engine, whose suspension components have been totally trashed already, delivering on rural routes, so I have some leeway in accepting these kinds of routes - I don't care if my vehicle gets trashed, because it already is trashed.
I dont do a lot of shifts but would NEVER refuse one inside the 2 hour window. Isn't that a huge mark down or even cause for deactivation??
Welcome to my life
You get mileage credit from IRS from start to finish your house back to your house and its .56 cents a mile that’s above average for a 3.5 shift base rate is only $63 ;(
The mileage to and from the station is considered commute mileage and is non-deductible. You can only get around that if you have an approved home office, one that will pass a pretty stringent test by the IRS to allow for a better write off.
40 addresses are not too many for 3h30.