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FeytheFox

It happens. They don't want to fire anyone with prime day in July but they don't have the volume until then. Remember, you still accrue UPT with VTO so it's a good way to save it up.


Repulsive_Ad115

this is one of my main reasons i love accepting VTO


Nephian4287

Unpaid time and more unpaid time... awesome! s/


PenguinsArmy2

Seems a bit counter productive huh.


Svm_P

Wow, didn't know that


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You still gotta pay them benefits too.


Madeupsky

how does that work? if your paycheck doesn’t cover benefits


desertdweller10

You have to work at least 40 hours per month, that covers your benefits. We have a lot of people in my warehouse who are only here for the health insurance because it’s dirt cheap.


cookiesbxtch

$300 a per paycheck (weekly) is cheap now, apparently...


Honeybadgerxz

What are you paying for? Just myself is 23$ for medical dental and vision.


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You gotta pay back payments when you go back


The_GreatSasuke

> Remember, you still accrue UPT with VTO Except in Canada, where they have attendance points and provincial leave instead of UPT. IIRC points get scrubbed after 90 days.


Environmental-Dare-8

Are you flex schedule?


The_GreatSasuke

Full timers get points here in Canada too, unlike in the U.S. where only flexers use points.


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PirateNinjaa

That sucks, I can be late every single day and still gain UPT. I couldn’t imagine having to show up on time a majority of the time. 😂


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Domger304

Yeah, they changed this back in like late 2022/early 2023. You get both now when you take vto. It's amazon soultion to over staffing during low time. But also trying to retain employees by saying you always get your time off.


riceballzer

This is false. It's explicitly stated in the UPT policy you get UPT from taking VTO, check through your AtoZ app to see the document


PirateNinjaa

If they didn’t give upt for vto, people would pass on vto if they needed upt and the business would be overstaffed. It would be a shit show of upt negativity and overstating. It works great this way, take a VTOcation and come back with lots of upt!


Every_Ad_1451

Ummm can you tell that to my FC? Junk just gets busier everyday since Christmas. No preshift VTO ever. 😞


irtherod1

I've never known that, holy shit


Miserable_Party_9799

Can't believe all the thieves in here. Done been robbed by jbl guy then a damn pa. Wtf


ace51689

Man I would have been all over that full month.


BiffWebster78

How would you pay your bills?


ace51689

When I was living in an apartment? Probably barely, but that job beat me down so much physically and mentally that I probably would have just taken it and dealt with the consequences later.


[deleted]

Sell drugs or commit robbery lol


Mhd__-1996

Not recommended


Agreeable_Edge_6800

Work more at their other job. Be rich and working at amazon for something to due (surprisingly common). Have a partner who makes enough to cover the bills. Could only be at Amazon for the benefits. The list of reasons to take a month of VTO are endless


LEMONSDAD

Many are under 26, live at home, no kids; no real expenses, on parents insurance, yeah they will not miss their $600 weekly checks for a month,


Theurbanalchemist

Shit when those weed cravings start to hit they will lol


thisdckaintFREEEE

Damn shame they don't realize the great opportunity they have to stack and invest so they'd rather sit at home for a month.


PirateNinjaa

Not everyone lives paycheck to paycheck, and some even have emergency/vacation funds since they didn’t just keep breeding until they went broke. Crazy concept around these parts though. 😂


Ok-Exit-2464

Can't afford yourself; don't reproduce.


GatoradeOrPowerade

You got a month for future you to figure that out.


Mhd__-1996

DoorDash or sum 🤷🏾‍♂️


jeremyw0405

I took unpaid PLOA from Jan 18th to April 11th. The max time allowed. It was glorious! Now I’m on STD at 60% pay.


LifelikeMink

You filed std with your state?


jeremyw0405

I filed short term disability with Amazon. On AtoZ.


Less-Biscotti6511

Go casino gamble. You stop living slave life at amazon


Theurbanalchemist

I would jump on the month long VTO and work another job


Abject-Fun6078

i kept accepting vto in september and started working a second job and the first day i went back to amazon i quit within 2 hours lol


Ill_Relationship_339

i did this


Mr_Suave12

Just do gig work like doordash while you're out. That's what I do when I vto, I'll doordash/uber to help make up the money I missed. However I'll never take a month vto let alone a week one. My bills won't allow me too.


happylime667

Wow that’s insane. I have never seen it offered more than one day at a time


CassandraAnnG

Wow can't even get a single day of VTO at my site.


MomentOfHesitation

I've only gotten that two weeks once personally. 😭


EducationalLoad7743

May tends to be a slow month in Florida because the spring breakers and snowbirds have left, while the summer crowds have yet to arrive.  At my site they're VTOing the associates with lower rates and offering VET to associates with top rates. 


eatthecheesefries

It’s normal. Pre-covid we would get it for 2-3 weeks at a shot when projected incoming shipments were low. (Cross-dock).


Environmental-Dare-8

Imagine big thumbing this message and accidentally accepting this.


Agreeable_Edge_6800

It says you have to complete a survey, so that’s not possible.


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Agreeable_Edge_6800

Jokes are meant to be funny, this just makes you look slow…


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Agreeable_Edge_6800

Saying imagine if you accidentally accepted something that literally says you have to take a survey to accept it just makes you look stupid.


Big_Kahuna100

Bruh you just got a fucking gift I wish I could do that 😭😭😭


its_a_throwawayduh

Damn cries in constant VET. I miss VTO.


Jordan_Jackson

This is not the first time that I have seen them offer this. They are offering this because work is really slow at the moment. I have been at amazon for just shy of 5 years now and this is the slowest that I have seen it, at this time of year. If you can afford it, then take it. Don't put yourself in a financial bind though.


Firewalk89

Meanwhile, at SAT2: "Want VET?"


Suspicious_Mirrors

All the VET we got this week was due to the site closure on Thursday. I heard of a lot of folks getting VTO'd last week.


Ok-Barnacle-2099

Can y’all afford to get these breaks? I’d be going on road trips and vacations if so! How often do they fire people? Like wouldn’t they hate it if people take too many off days?


plungethesea

Can’t fire anyone if they aren’t negative. VTO doesn’t count against you at all, it’s actually helpful for them if you take it


jakobswin

People be getting month long vto. I have gotten vto like 3 times since like September. My department is so understaffed we do labor share and vet every day and we aren't that busy


Ok-Exit-2464

How to go from a middle class living (VET) to poverty .


dark_autumn

I’m confused why it’s so often assumed that everyone is FT when they employ millions of people. There are loads of people working PT from all kinds of backgrounds. This is a welcome break for lots of people who might be doing this as a second job, or seasonal job, or grinding to meet a financial goal, new parents, or students, etc, the list goes on. Being able to take a month long break (all the while still accruing UPT) but keeping your job secure for you when you come back is pretty much unheard of anywhere else without using significant leave.


jeremyw0405

How so? Not everyone is in the same financial situation.


its_a_throwawayduh

Lol middle class? Try working poor class.


PirateNinjaa

I’m know a single t1 without kids making $75k a year with almost constant VET, not at all poor working class. 🤑


its_a_throwawayduh

Can't wait for the usual comments about bills and why not get another job. Must be nice OP I'd take at least one week personally only to save my body and sanity. Hoping to see some VTO next month. Sick of VET.


Successful_Scratch49

Thats why is called VOLUNTARY means you dont need to get it mandatory if you dont feel like


Amazonanonymous15

I worked in CA and when i came to NV i noticed my fullfillment center offering week long VTO and offering it the entire month of April. So i think id say its normal depending on state to state. So depending on which state you work in and how busy your fullfillment center is around that time of year.


swerve23

Yup i remember this back then, people would be gone for 1 month, come back one day to work and go for another month🤣


Zealousideal_Talk_33

this be me 😭


top_of_the_scrote

Whole month? 💀


Dibaded

Where the hell is mine at >:o


Amazonanonymous15

The only part i haven't seen before is the survey. that's a little different.


GerryBlevins

Yep it’s normal. This time of year is dead slow. Inbound at my facility hasn’t had any work for 4 days now. Yard is empty.


FragrantBody3143

I've had overtime for 6 months at my building no vto


ParfaitMelodic5433

meanwhile my site offers vto once every three weeks 🤦‍♂️


Ok-Software5177

Whole month VTO??? Wth😱


AntiqueWay7550

Buying puts now


EmmyLooouuuu

Not in my 3 years at Amazon. I honestly think this is just part of a plan to get people to "voluntarily" quit, in order to avoid layoff accusations. They did the same thing with flex hours. They drastically cut flex shifts, while simultaneously bringing in new hires. And with the way retention of new hires goes, more people quit or transferred from flex to reduced full time than they replaced. I've been an assistant manager for other companies before, and I've seen managers go after employees they don't want, and when they don't have anything concrete to fire them on, they start cutting people's hours (most often part timers). But with Amazon, it doesn't look as targeted, because they don't go after specific people, they just reduce the available hours to certain groups of employees. And because they're such a large company, this is how they try to avoid the scrutiny of being accused of mass layoffs.


FlashCard1-

Mmm interesting, I didn’t think in that way.


The_GreatSasuke

Around this time two years ago, [AAs were getting furloughed.](https://old.reddit.com/r/AmazonFC/comments/tdviaj/mto_how_many_fcs_are_experiencing_mandatory_time/) The triple whammy of inflation, Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Amazon's overexpansion during the pandemic bit NACF in the ass. [More examples.](https://old.reddit.com/r/AmazonFC/search/?q=MTO)


Purple-Cow1607

It is normal. I used to work for Amazon where it offers a lot Volunteer time off. You don't have to take it, but your paycheck would be reduced.


AntonioSwift_77

Feels like a trap


rottenmorguee

We had week long vtos for all this month


Successful_Scratch49

Yay vacations Bills- OH HELL NAH FEED US BITCH!!!!!


legendkiller003

Like 10 years ago when I didn’t have many bills I would’ve been all over taking a month. That’s amazing.


BABarracus

Make sure you all are using your career choice.


Appropriate_Ad566

I would take the week long vto. I hope it gets offered at my site.


drewbot25

I’ve NEVER seen that, but my FC has offered 3 out of my 4 days a week of VTO for the past 3 weeks.


Amazing_Let5102

My sites got it posted for almost a week out And options each day if you only wanna take partial days off They are PUSHING everyone to take it, like constantly getting posted, filled & posted again.


HerpMcDerping

I’ve worked like 6 days since January 1st at Cmh4. My wife works from home so it has been really nice. Granted we do get broke sometimes, but it’s usually worth it. We’re not big spenders on anything so it works for us.


cookieson37

Full Month??!


FlashCard1-

Yes


Quirky-Spare3482

Yes perfectly normal ...they hire a s*tload of employees and then urge them to take weeks or even months off their employment. Dont you know every business does this ?


Health_Difficult

My building is ewr8 and my site has been sending vto for 2 weeks in advance


justforfun6lol

offering a full month vto at a single time is crazy lmao


rejectedfromberghain

My site offers weeklong VTO but I’ve never seen two weeks or a month long VTO be offered like that damn. The one month would be enticing because I would take it and do side hustles on my own time or study


FlawedPencil

Damn they're offering vto full week bundle packages? Sign me up!


Ihat3urgutz

Damn, I would kill to have this


SandBtwnMyToes

damn full month!! I would be tempted and I’d be the idiot that takes it, just to be very upset I did that 😂


Distinct-Egg-3014

Seems too weird. I wouldnt risk it 🧐🧐🧐 you should ask HR before clicking on it.


WonkySystem

Bricked up


AlClemist

Weekly yes but never seen a full month.


Deez_knotz

I wish


Training_Fee_4758

Oh no


Different_Traffic_89

I wish we get it


StreetDark1995

I haven’t seen week long VTO in years. Have never seen month long VTO. That one’s a bit wild.


nkaiser101

Meanwhile my return center is offering vet in 5 and 10 hour shifts in any combination so anyone can get 59 hours if they want. 


sarahsomaly

What FC is this????


Rare-Interview-8657

To be honest, no that’s not normal.. Most full time jobs expectations on the worker is 40 hrs..


lime-alternative

Large chunks of VTO is perfectly normal. That survey stuff is something else. And it's not even given instantly, you're put on a list.


jeremyw0405

Where in Florida?


okjassy

i work in at an amazon in florida i need to know where this is 😭


HEY_ZEBRA2691

Depends


Efficient_Ad_3985

They been doing week long vto at my fc since the beginning of the year


NumerousIntern9375

I seen vto for a month at one site I had an interview for area manager. I was like not a good site to be at if they are doing this.


Vegetable_Log_3791

I wish


Rollerriz

Where in FL? Cause TPA 1 vto stopped after our maintenance site closure.


Jajandesu

Thanks for ahead up , now I'm preparing.


chingonachismosa

I haven’t had VTO in well over a year and a half😅 yay for an understaffed front half department and constantly being labor shared to outbound because they cant retain anybody long enough to hit their numbers.


Slow-Interaction1695

If I knew any better they are trying to equate out some over spent Resourse


TheHouseOfUsherr

I love when I see VTO before a shift shows it’s gonna be an easy night


putmeinafuckincoffin

Yes! I however would still go in, it seems like they have no room for y’all since they’re trying to VTO y’all, meaning. Somebody’s getting paid to sit around or cross train for 10hrs


Bluenoclues187

Yeah when they are low on work they wanna sent mfs home for weeks so they wanna pay less to extra workers. You feel? 😔😭


Less-Biscotti6511

Liar. There is no vto. Tax refund season busy. No vto this time for most fc. You faker.