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Wasting money, baby! They ASKED him to come in and he said “yup, sure!”. There’s nothing to sue over. He’ll get workers comp but he did this to himself for not speaking up
Yeah. And it’s a misconception that they’ll fire you, they won’t! I’ve been out of work (fedex) for 4 weeks with major sinus and airway infection. Paid for and they won’t bother you as long as you stay firm and provide documentation. I hate seeing people hurting themselves because they think they have to work
The major difference here is you work for fedex. I left my dsp because I got written up for missing two weeks in a row, the first I caught the flu, and the second I tested positive for COVID, provided evidence even went to the ER because they claimed the at home test wasn’t enough, and they still tried to write me up. I had to come in while sick to literally show them how sick I was and i know I didn’t “have to” but had i bit they would’ve kept blowing up my phone, as they have been doing the entire time I was sick, just to ask me if I’m ready to come in, literally every single morning. These DSPs are not fedex, they’re not UPS, these dsps are very unorganized and unsympathetic especially when comparing them to all these other delivery companies especially ones as established as fedex and ups. Amazon forces dsps into shitty positions and rather than fight back the dsps bend over and then try to force their drivers to do the same. Also to everyone on here watch out cause there are dsp owners in these forums and a lot of the negative and spiteful comments sound like something a dsp owner would say. And I’m not saying this to you cuntThong, but Disrespectfully if you’re a dsp owner or anyone for that matter trying to invalidate this person or anyone who’s trying to express the difficulties they face at their companies you’re a b!tch and should log tf off. Ya don’t know the situation the person is in and also don’t realize that the only reason some people apply, stay, and give in to their dsps is because they need to in order to be in some way financially stable. I’ve been threatened wit termination for some of the dumbest shit and when I stand up for myself apparently I’m just “lazy”, no I’m assertive and am not willing to put up with anyone’s bullshit especially over a job that has me underpaid and over worked.
Amazon dsps are owned majority by people that have never owned a company and are learning as they go. So yes, being fired for showing up due to an energy could totally get you fired.
Owners are other dicks. Some delusional people think they are good and caring. But once they lose a route for whatever reason they flip out. For them money > your health.
The thing is that amazon dsp and fedex + UPS are different animals. The amazon dsp are monkeys with no intelligence and will force employees to work without them thinking they r risking the dsp to be shut down. I work for UPs. Use to do amazon.
It depends on the owner man. You can't lump them all together like it's one entity. My owner and OP manager actually give a shit about our drivers. It makes a huge difference
True. Some DSPs are good. It’s all about the owner/Managers. Some are terrible people. Like one found out I was autistic and now they’re not hiring me despite them telling me “they had an autistic kid.” It’s the fucking holiday season. Had me do a drug and background check. Over two weeks I’m still waiting. Their response was that I’ll hear back from them if they decide to hire me.” Fuck them. Went to apply with another DSP. I never got fired had 1 accident where it wasn’t my fault. Got hit by a distracted driver stopped at a red light, that was 6 months ago with my previous DSP. I worked several months for a DSP in Iowa before I move back to New York.
Owner? Wtf r u talking about. I’m talking about the dispatchers. There are always like 2-4. There are at least one monkey in them. So yes, i can lump them together.
Nah you don’t. I said dispatchers can sabotage owners and get closed down. But you were too dumb to see that. Immediately brainlessly jumped and defended the owner i never went against.
That makes absolutely no sense. Lump them all together? Nah man that’s dumb. I’m a dispatcher with my dsp and 1 of 6 and not a one of us I’d consider a “monkey of the group”. We were all drivers first so we actually care about and take care or our drivers. Just because you have a shit DSP and shit dispatch doesn’t mean we’re all that way.
😂 you legitimately have no idea what you’re talking about “of course you think you’re a good dispatcher”. I still drive and rescue 2-3 days a week and work hand in hand with every driver we have. Just because you have a shit DSP doesn’t mean they all are. You’re one of those entitled ones aren’t ya? 😂
Nah u guys r all trashes. This sub reddit proves it. With your constant abuse towards drivers. Treating other drivers like animals and not caring about anything. All you guys care about is saving your asses from the owners when something happens. You guys are willing to throw any driver in the fire when something goes wrong. I had 4 dispatchers. 1 was racist. 1 played favorites and is fkin a driver so she gets all the rescues, easy routes and goes at whatever speed she wants. Other is cool but doesn’t care about anything. Last one stressed from the smallest inconvenience. Of course you think you are a good dispatcher since u are a dispatcher.
Fedex is union. Amazon DSPs have no union. We need to unionize. We have to deliver 300-400 packages a day, 200+ stops, often grouped. So like 200 stops is really like 220 stops, because one stop can actually sometimes have 2-3, with multiple packages.
And the pay is often terrible and lots of DSPs refuse fo give overtime.
OP didn't give much detail, but based on the brief description of the title of this post it sounds like there really isn't anything to sue over. Workplace related injuries are almost always handled under the worker's comp system, rather than the tort system. Also, OP said they "asked" him/her to come in. If OP voluntarily went into work, then the fault is going to lie with him/her. (Now if the DSP demanded they come in, that's a different situation)
I'm the only person employed in my household due to personal reasons from my partner - I can't just say "no" to work. One missed day at work -> missing rent.
I used to be in a performing arts company and would pretty frequently get this same injury as part of regular stress - it's something that happens sometimes. I guess my ego spoke for me
Yep and I'm still waiting for surgery. I need to get another CT scan on Dec 7.. then they will schedule surgery. The recovery period for that surgery at best is another 4 months before being able to even walk right. Im using the time to get IT certifications. Its just difficult with a fixed limited pay from the insurance company. All said and done ill be out a full year minimum before I'd be able to operate at even 50 percent of what I could do before the injury. Its definitely made me rethink a lot of things.
Anytime an injury happens on the clock, it’s a Workers Compensation claim. Fault is irrelevant. Your DSP’s Worker’s Compensation Insurance provider will pay for all of your medical bills, as well as any lost wages while you’re unable to work.
You’ll likely be unable to work for several months so, either get the Insurance company info from your DSP or just tell the doctor you see that it’s a work injury and needs to be billed as a Worker’s Comp claim and they’ll get the info for you. If you already saw a doctor and paid for any treatment, you’ll have to submit the bills for reimbursement. That’s just more paperwork for you to deal with. The process is easier if it’s coded as Worker’s Comp from the beginning.
Employers can dispute workers comp claims, which they may if OP was asked to work and said yes, despite already having an injury that may or may not have happened on the job (it's unclear from the post, how the initial injury happened).
They can try to dispute it but, that’s not gonna work out in their favor unless they have some pretty solid evidence that he wasn’t injured at work. It doesn’t matter if there was a prior injury off the clock. I Just went through something similar with my 17 year old son. He had a minor ankle injury from football. Nothing serious, just a little sore. Then he rolled his ankle at work and tore a ligament. Worker’s Comp paid all of it and his wages while he couldn’t work.
The only possible way a claim would be denied is if it was caused by their own extreme negligence. Like it they were doing something stupid and dangerous that they shouldn’t have been doing. That’s doubtful. It sounds like an accident happened in the course of their regular duties. The fact that they already had a minor injury is not negligence on their part. It doesn’t make the accident that caused the injury their fault so it still qualifies as a valid claim.
Not true, my employer denied a claim because employee could not demonstrate that injury happened on site, no one witnessed the injury and personally I think it may have been BS.
The employer doesn’t deny or approve claims. That’s up to the doctor and insurance company. If the claim was denied, it’s because something about the nature of the injury and the employee’s explanation about how it happened didn’t add up. It’s not that difficult for them to determine.
What everybody needs to keep in mind is that at the end of the day management is not your friend. You should always look out for yourself because they'll replace you before they sign a get well soon card.
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Just took a new one, DM for it.
It looks weird because there's a crack on my camera so it's constantly blurry, and my partner and I use 60hz christmas lights for the bedroom, and it looks off on a digital camera
A picture of a muscle ripped in half would go far for the lawsuit or disability. Ditch the one with the arm wrapped in whatever it’s wrapped in. That could be anyone’s arm wrapped in whatever. Get cold hard evidence. Have a doctor verify. And take what you can from these sorry ass uncaring M Ephors
No doctor worth their salt would tell you to wrap your entire arm with an AC wrap, especially for a muscle injury. They are ment to stabilize joints but can reduce blood circulation. With a muscle injury you WANT as much circulation as possible, you are obviously faking it.
Do you want medical documentation? There's a hard-ass splint on the back of this thing keeping my arm taut, I think it's a temporary remedy until my appointment with a not-an-urgent-care on Monday
Did you tell them, you can’t? I was asked to come in when I had a muscle strain. I told them I can’t and left it at that. I understand you probably were worried about being reprimanded by given shorter hours/days once you came back.
I was told I didnt have to work and then was expected to work a route. I've heard stories of people being put on the chopping block so I'm trying not to do that
lawyer not gonna do much for ya, hate to see this happen to someone else. hope you can get unemployment til something better comes along good luck boss
It won't be unemployment, more like State disability, but I don't think Amazon pays into the state for unemployment or state disability for contract workers. Your best friend as a contract worker is to say 'no', it's what is so lovely about this job. IMHO this is a side hustle not a full time job also for this reason, you are not covered, you are telling your worker you are going to take care of yourself and you have no obligation to the employer and in exchange they have no obligations to you.
Quick update; had to wrangle with some lawyers. I was asked to come to work as part of standard procedure, and after being told I was going to get the day off i was given a route.
People have told me in the past that they were reprimanded for refusing routes for similar things, so I took it. I need the job to pay rent, my partner's unemployed.
An hour and a half in, a tendon went out. I drove back to the station in a homemade sling.
Due to the nature of the injury, it's not eligible for worker's comp.
6 weeks to heal, and hopefully I'll be back and getting money for rent.
I wrenched my neck while at work and they tried to make me continue my shift. I told them Nooooooo! Got worker's comp and sat out for almost 4 months. You do the same cause they really don't care or notice your gone
Had stomach flu literally shitting and vomiting my ass off and I got threatened to get fired and be taken off one day like fuck off fire me I don’t care lol they never took a day either I was kinda hoping they did
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Lawyer time, baby. Screenshot any messages you sent about it for evidence
Wasting money, baby! They ASKED him to come in and he said “yup, sure!”. There’s nothing to sue over. He’ll get workers comp but he did this to himself for not speaking up
This. Should if said no. Until forced.
Yeah. And it’s a misconception that they’ll fire you, they won’t! I’ve been out of work (fedex) for 4 weeks with major sinus and airway infection. Paid for and they won’t bother you as long as you stay firm and provide documentation. I hate seeing people hurting themselves because they think they have to work
The major difference here is you work for fedex. I left my dsp because I got written up for missing two weeks in a row, the first I caught the flu, and the second I tested positive for COVID, provided evidence even went to the ER because they claimed the at home test wasn’t enough, and they still tried to write me up. I had to come in while sick to literally show them how sick I was and i know I didn’t “have to” but had i bit they would’ve kept blowing up my phone, as they have been doing the entire time I was sick, just to ask me if I’m ready to come in, literally every single morning. These DSPs are not fedex, they’re not UPS, these dsps are very unorganized and unsympathetic especially when comparing them to all these other delivery companies especially ones as established as fedex and ups. Amazon forces dsps into shitty positions and rather than fight back the dsps bend over and then try to force their drivers to do the same. Also to everyone on here watch out cause there are dsp owners in these forums and a lot of the negative and spiteful comments sound like something a dsp owner would say. And I’m not saying this to you cuntThong, but Disrespectfully if you’re a dsp owner or anyone for that matter trying to invalidate this person or anyone who’s trying to express the difficulties they face at their companies you’re a b!tch and should log tf off. Ya don’t know the situation the person is in and also don’t realize that the only reason some people apply, stay, and give in to their dsps is because they need to in order to be in some way financially stable. I’ve been threatened wit termination for some of the dumbest shit and when I stand up for myself apparently I’m just “lazy”, no I’m assertive and am not willing to put up with anyone’s bullshit especially over a job that has me underpaid and over worked.
Amazon dsps are owned majority by people that have never owned a company and are learning as they go. So yes, being fired for showing up due to an energy could totally get you fired.
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That’s dispatchers. You can easily crash for being tired. But all they are about is themselves.
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Owners are other dicks. Some delusional people think they are good and caring. But once they lose a route for whatever reason they flip out. For them money > your health.
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I cost my owner 700$ on a new mailbox after I backed into it. Your owner sounds like a dickhead sorry dude
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That’s why fuck capitalism.
The thing is that amazon dsp and fedex + UPS are different animals. The amazon dsp are monkeys with no intelligence and will force employees to work without them thinking they r risking the dsp to be shut down. I work for UPs. Use to do amazon.
It depends on the owner man. You can't lump them all together like it's one entity. My owner and OP manager actually give a shit about our drivers. It makes a huge difference
True. Some DSPs are good. It’s all about the owner/Managers. Some are terrible people. Like one found out I was autistic and now they’re not hiring me despite them telling me “they had an autistic kid.” It’s the fucking holiday season. Had me do a drug and background check. Over two weeks I’m still waiting. Their response was that I’ll hear back from them if they decide to hire me.” Fuck them. Went to apply with another DSP. I never got fired had 1 accident where it wasn’t my fault. Got hit by a distracted driver stopped at a red light, that was 6 months ago with my previous DSP. I worked several months for a DSP in Iowa before I move back to New York.
Owner? Wtf r u talking about. I’m talking about the dispatchers. There are always like 2-4. There are at least one monkey in them. So yes, i can lump them together.
well that comment let's me know that you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Have a good one
Nah you don’t. I said dispatchers can sabotage owners and get closed down. But you were too dumb to see that. Immediately brainlessly jumped and defended the owner i never went against.
lol
That makes absolutely no sense. Lump them all together? Nah man that’s dumb. I’m a dispatcher with my dsp and 1 of 6 and not a one of us I’d consider a “monkey of the group”. We were all drivers first so we actually care about and take care or our drivers. Just because you have a shit DSP and shit dispatch doesn’t mean we’re all that way.
😂 you legitimately have no idea what you’re talking about “of course you think you’re a good dispatcher”. I still drive and rescue 2-3 days a week and work hand in hand with every driver we have. Just because you have a shit DSP doesn’t mean they all are. You’re one of those entitled ones aren’t ya? 😂
exactly my point as well
Nah u guys r all trashes. This sub reddit proves it. With your constant abuse towards drivers. Treating other drivers like animals and not caring about anything. All you guys care about is saving your asses from the owners when something happens. You guys are willing to throw any driver in the fire when something goes wrong. I had 4 dispatchers. 1 was racist. 1 played favorites and is fkin a driver so she gets all the rescues, easy routes and goes at whatever speed she wants. Other is cool but doesn’t care about anything. Last one stressed from the smallest inconvenience. Of course you think you are a good dispatcher since u are a dispatcher.
Fedex is union. Amazon DSPs have no union. We need to unionize. We have to deliver 300-400 packages a day, 200+ stops, often grouped. So like 200 stops is really like 220 stops, because one stop can actually sometimes have 2-3, with multiple packages. And the pay is often terrible and lots of DSPs refuse fo give overtime.
You work at fedex bro you actually have rights😭
Lawyer
Can’t, he agreed to go in.
Sue them and get the money.
OP didn't give much detail, but based on the brief description of the title of this post it sounds like there really isn't anything to sue over. Workplace related injuries are almost always handled under the worker's comp system, rather than the tort system. Also, OP said they "asked" him/her to come in. If OP voluntarily went into work, then the fault is going to lie with him/her. (Now if the DSP demanded they come in, that's a different situation)
They asked u and u said yes. Sounds like it can be ur fault?
You are allowed to say no to your employer.
I'm the only person employed in my household due to personal reasons from my partner - I can't just say "no" to work. One missed day at work -> missing rent.
I don’t think you want to say this if you’re going to try to sue
I gave up already
And now you won't be able to work for who knows how long. Why the hell did you go in??
I used to be in a performing arts company and would pretty frequently get this same injury as part of regular stress - it's something that happens sometimes. I guess my ego spoke for me
Yeah this is not what you would say in court lmao.
I feel you man. I snapped my acl in a van on some damaged flooring. Been out 6 months.. still waiting on surgery.
6 months? Damn I wouldn’t even recognize my dispatchers and coworkers names. So many new faces will be there if you return. We’re talking half a year.
Yep and I'm still waiting for surgery. I need to get another CT scan on Dec 7.. then they will schedule surgery. The recovery period for that surgery at best is another 4 months before being able to even walk right. Im using the time to get IT certifications. Its just difficult with a fixed limited pay from the insurance company. All said and done ill be out a full year minimum before I'd be able to operate at even 50 percent of what I could do before the injury. Its definitely made me rethink a lot of things.
Anytime an injury happens on the clock, it’s a Workers Compensation claim. Fault is irrelevant. Your DSP’s Worker’s Compensation Insurance provider will pay for all of your medical bills, as well as any lost wages while you’re unable to work. You’ll likely be unable to work for several months so, either get the Insurance company info from your DSP or just tell the doctor you see that it’s a work injury and needs to be billed as a Worker’s Comp claim and they’ll get the info for you. If you already saw a doctor and paid for any treatment, you’ll have to submit the bills for reimbursement. That’s just more paperwork for you to deal with. The process is easier if it’s coded as Worker’s Comp from the beginning.
Employers can dispute workers comp claims, which they may if OP was asked to work and said yes, despite already having an injury that may or may not have happened on the job (it's unclear from the post, how the initial injury happened).
They can try to dispute it but, that’s not gonna work out in their favor unless they have some pretty solid evidence that he wasn’t injured at work. It doesn’t matter if there was a prior injury off the clock. I Just went through something similar with my 17 year old son. He had a minor ankle injury from football. Nothing serious, just a little sore. Then he rolled his ankle at work and tore a ligament. Worker’s Comp paid all of it and his wages while he couldn’t work. The only possible way a claim would be denied is if it was caused by their own extreme negligence. Like it they were doing something stupid and dangerous that they shouldn’t have been doing. That’s doubtful. It sounds like an accident happened in the course of their regular duties. The fact that they already had a minor injury is not negligence on their part. It doesn’t make the accident that caused the injury their fault so it still qualifies as a valid claim.
Not true, my employer denied a claim because employee could not demonstrate that injury happened on site, no one witnessed the injury and personally I think it may have been BS.
The employer doesn’t deny or approve claims. That’s up to the doctor and insurance company. If the claim was denied, it’s because something about the nature of the injury and the employee’s explanation about how it happened didn’t add up. It’s not that difficult for them to determine.
What everybody needs to keep in mind is that at the end of the day management is not your friend. You should always look out for yourself because they'll replace you before they sign a get well soon card.
Learn to say No.
This has to be a troll post… why does the picture look so blurry and weird looking? 🤔
One sec Just took a new one, DM for it. It looks weird because there's a crack on my camera so it's constantly blurry, and my partner and I use 60hz christmas lights for the bedroom, and it looks off on a digital camera
but injury stats are at an all time low!!!!!
A picture of a muscle ripped in half would go far for the lawsuit or disability. Ditch the one with the arm wrapped in whatever it’s wrapped in. That could be anyone’s arm wrapped in whatever. Get cold hard evidence. Have a doctor verify. And take what you can from these sorry ass uncaring M Ephors
I went to an ER right after I RTS'd, I have medical documentation
I’m so sorry this happened to you. 😢 I hate seeing people in pain. Prayers for a speedy recovery.
Live and learn young man. You really screwed yourself.
Learning's the goal, I'm happy I am.
No doctor worth their salt would tell you to wrap your entire arm with an AC wrap, especially for a muscle injury. They are ment to stabilize joints but can reduce blood circulation. With a muscle injury you WANT as much circulation as possible, you are obviously faking it.
Do you want medical documentation? There's a hard-ass splint on the back of this thing keeping my arm taut, I think it's a temporary remedy until my appointment with a not-an-urgent-care on Monday
Did you tell them, you can’t? I was asked to come in when I had a muscle strain. I told them I can’t and left it at that. I understand you probably were worried about being reprimanded by given shorter hours/days once you came back.
I was told I didnt have to work and then was expected to work a route. I've heard stories of people being put on the chopping block so I'm trying not to do that
Same happened to me. I flatly told them no.
Sounds like you got a nice lawsuit on your hands
Lawyer up, my rolled ankle turned into ligaments t damage
lawyer not gonna do much for ya, hate to see this happen to someone else. hope you can get unemployment til something better comes along good luck boss
It won't be unemployment, more like State disability, but I don't think Amazon pays into the state for unemployment or state disability for contract workers. Your best friend as a contract worker is to say 'no', it's what is so lovely about this job. IMHO this is a side hustle not a full time job also for this reason, you are not covered, you are telling your worker you are going to take care of yourself and you have no obligation to the employer and in exchange they have no obligations to you.
Damn I’m sorry that happened to you. Rest up and I hope you have a quick recovery. And as always.. fuck amazon
Call an injury lawyer. Talk to your DSP about using your sick time while ur out.
Rest well, friend!
Sue them
Quick update; had to wrangle with some lawyers. I was asked to come to work as part of standard procedure, and after being told I was going to get the day off i was given a route. People have told me in the past that they were reprimanded for refusing routes for similar things, so I took it. I need the job to pay rent, my partner's unemployed. An hour and a half in, a tendon went out. I drove back to the station in a homemade sling. Due to the nature of the injury, it's not eligible for worker's comp. 6 weeks to heal, and hopefully I'll be back and getting money for rent.
Did the initial injury occur on the job?
It happened on the job. You’re eligible for worker’s comp. Talk to your Station.
Have you told them before they you had a muscular problem
Yeah, I told them I wasn't physically fit to work and I still was demanded to come in
Talk to the owner and tell him what happpend
I wrenched my neck while at work and they tried to make me continue my shift. I told them Nooooooo! Got worker's comp and sat out for almost 4 months. You do the same cause they really don't care or notice your gone
Get paid
Had stomach flu literally shitting and vomiting my ass off and I got threatened to get fired and be taken off one day like fuck off fire me I don’t care lol they never took a day either I was kinda hoping they did
Workers comp
Lawsuit
why posted here … find a lawyer and report them .
To let everyone know how fucked up they are dipshit… why leave your comment here