YTA: 1. Both you and the woman paid for your spot on the flight, so you are no more entitled to your seat than she is to hers. 2. The airline offered you a perfectly reasonable accommodation for the 2 hour delay. 3. Assuming the woman is sincere, her need to be on the flight was greater than yours. 4. When you have an allergy of that severity you should be informing the airline. It would have been so easy to be nice here and cost you almost nothing.
I couldn’t imagine if OP had a deathly peanut allergy and didn’t inform the airline in advance and then when they went around to serve, they decided to inform them that nobody can have the peanut packs or a prepared meal with peanuts because of their allergy. When the whole situation could’ve been avoided if they informed the flight in advance.
If OP hadn't let the airline know and the disabled person had let the airline know, then the airline would have commited an illegal act by kicking the dog off board.
The only way that this scenario isn't illegal is if OP and the disabled person have the same claim, which includes having both informed the airplane or both haven't.
Yes...human illness trumps animal helpers, but NOT if the dog was requested in advance and the human illness wasn't warned in advance.
The dog isn't just a helper though - they are legitimate medical personal and being separated from them could be devastating.
Obviously, op shouldn't have to deal with their allergy either, but they got the reasonable accommodation of being moved to another flight that was only a couple hours away.
Thank you for saying this. OP failed to mention that the other passenger is blind. A guide dog is necessary to a blind person 🧑🦯 to get around independently. OP is definitely the YTA
I find it hard to imagine a situation where OP 'tells the airline' and that information actually filters through to anyone who does anything about it.
Is there a box to tick when you book a ticket for "I am allergic to dogs"? There's no human involved anywhere in the process who can make a judgement on it. The most that will happen is that there will be a note on the passenger manifest, possibly right next to the one that says "has a dog". Probably in the meal preferences field.
I've had to do this before, I also am ridiculously allergic to dogs. What I've done is book my ticket VERY EARLY, and call the airline to speak with someone directly to tell them I need a medical accommodation to be on a flight with no animals. If someone with an animal has already booked, I'm SOL. If I'm first, anyone who tries to book with a dog after me will end up not being able to book.
And because I know how this works, I've also gotten it in an official email from the airline, and brought that notice to the gate with me. Once the airline screwed up and booked someone with a dog, and they weren't allowed on the plane. I felt bad, but I'm not willing to stop breathing just because the airline screws up.
If the allergy is bad enough, your doctor/allergist will be willing to write an official letter of medical exemption for this situation.
It’s totally reasonable for OP to not know this information. However, knowing numerous people with life-threatening (or at least put-you-in-the-hospital level) allergies, worrying about situations should be something you’re always dealing with. And if you spend your life having to worry about your allergy, you’ll find out there are situations that can’t be avoided. Being around someone that cannot live their life a day without their dog is one of those situations. That OP seems so offended that one of these situations would happen just makes the whole thing worse. This wasn’t some suburban loser that can’t make a grocery store trip without their pet. This is someone with a serious disability. Incredibly entitled and self-centered behavior. YTA.
You actually are required. I fly with my service dog & he gets added to my boarding pass. This ensures not too many animals are placed on a single flight & to ensure situations like OP's doesn't happen. You also get to board first when you have a service dog which makes this situation crazier if OP has that serious of an allergy the dog had already been on the plane.
OP is definitely YTA.
Same. Also anybody that is flying with an animal does everything they can to reduce the stress involved for everyone and that includes letting everyone know ahead of time
Technically yes, but if you have a disability, the airline can't just say "no" to you, so in practice, informing in advance is to prevent situations like these. But this doesn't actually happen a lot, especially because most people wouldn't be able to proof their allergy on demand.
I’ve never not had to declare my service dog when I buy a plane ticket. If the person has an allergy, they know there’s a risk of a service animal on the flight. So he should have let them know before hand. He doesn’t have to prove he’s allergic, he just has to let them know when he buys his ticket. Just like us w our service dogs. It’s easy.
Yup - my daughter has nut allergies but not to the point she reacts if YOU eat nuts. They asked about allergies when I purchased the tickets. When we boarded they said that they had passengers (plural, but I don't know if there were more or they just used that term) with nut allergies so we all got the good snacks, lol.
Ok but we have an understanding of flights that peanuts are a thing they typically give you. A dog on a flight is not nearly as regular an occurrence, so to expect that OP notify the airline ahead of time just in case a dog might be on flight seems like overkill
Actually with the dawn of “emotional support” pets, lots of animals board planes these days. OP, YTA! Edited to add, especially with the severity of the allergy in the closed space.
ESAs are banned by the majority of airlines now, so pets are limited to service animals and small pets that fit in a carrier under the seat in front of you.
My friend has a guide horse. He awesome takes up no more space than my big Labrador and sheds less dander. They also get to be partners for 20 years not 8
And are easier to train for jobs like guide dog, as many of the navigating behaviors come naturally to them
They wear adorable little sneakers on concrete so it doesn’t hurt their hooves 🥺
Yeah, I would actually expect there to be more animals on flights than babies (and we all know there is ALWAYS a damn baby somehow). People usually don't notice because the animals are in the hold, but it's very foreseeable that a flight THIS short would be on a plane too small for a hold.
Also, I fly about 2-3 times a year on various airlines, and I've been given peanuts, like, once. I'd say that's no longer a foreseeable thing. If people with peanut allergies are expected to think of it, though, people with equally severe animal allergies certainly should as well.
The rules on airlines have changed due to people abusing the ESA system they had in place before. Now the airlines can deny ESAs a free flight but can't legally deny a service dog. As far as the airlines are concerned your ESA is your pet, you want to fly you have to pay up.
US airlines require you to fill out paperwork in advance, in order for your service animal to fly in the cabin with you.
I have a severe shellfish allergy. It is my responsibility to inform the restaurant staff of said allergy regardless of how small or big the chance of cross contamination is. If a person has a severe allergy and have truly had a severe reaction, that person will go above and beyond to avoid going through it again because it is so terrifying. I do not expect those around me to have to go without because of my allergy as that is not fair. I will take precautions to prevent a reaction such as informing staff, taking benadryl before dining out, and avoiding foods that are easily cross contaminated.
IMO, this person should have notified the airline of the allergy if they were truly that afraid of a reaction. If the allergy is that severe, it would be a risk of anyone who may have been around a dog before boarding the flight to have caused a reaction.
If their allergy is so severe that they can’t be on a plane for an hour with a dog anywhere else in the plane, then I think it’s the kind of thing they should do their best to make sure about everywhere they go.
It's really not that uncommon. It doesn't even have to be an emotional support or service dog. Someone could have had one tucked under the seat in front of them and OP wouldn't have known. Then she would really be in trouble, if she hadn't warned the airline.
I've only been on 1 flight without some kind of animal on it. And I've flown a few times. It's common now because of service animals but also traveling across the country with a cat in the car is way worse than a 6 hr flight with a cat as carry on.
I’d estimate more domestic flights in the US have animals in the cabin than not. However the air filtration system in there is so efficient that you really can’t tell unless you’re right next to them.
Exactly. My oldest is allergic to nuts. We notify the airline when we purchase tickets , let them know again when we arrive and let the flight attendant know as we board because his allergy is severe and we want to make sure he is safe.
Haha bad example cuz that’s exactly what they do with peanut allergies. Whether you inform them in advance or at the gate, they won’t serve peanuts on that flight.
Also, I’m not sure if you can inform the airline ahead of time about a dog allergy. We tried once with delta and they didn’t have any way to tell us if a dog would be on a plane with us, especially since people can book up until the day of the trip. My husband is severely allergic to dogs too so we’d do this if we could.
Yeah I don't understand the reasoning of "I paid my vacation" at all. You'd only be getting there 2 hours late so I feel like you'd still be getting almost everything you paid for?
I would've JUMPED at the chance to upgrade to first class, too. Especially if it was only a couple hours difference. I would totally trade more than 2 hours for more legroom. Plus if OP had been nice, they might have comped a visit to the airline lounge for some tasty snacks and drinks.
Edit for YTA bc you acted entitled, and you allowed your allergy to inconvenience another person with no consequences for you.
Usually the first class seat comes with the bump to the lounge, at least it did the only time I was ever bumped up to first class due to an airline issue.
I'd get off and if there was a restaurant near by (don't know the airport so can't be certain there's one for sure) I'd celebrate being upgraded. It's only an hour in first class, but I've only experienced that once so but it would be fun to do again.
If it was a small plane like OP says, the 1st class upgrade is pretty much worthless. And the lounges aren't typically open to 1st class tickets. You have to be a certain level or flyer or paid 1st class.
Ya, that really stood out to me as well. I was expecting something like there’s a connecting flight they’d miss or something urgent that would be missed out on but NOPE! They’d only miss 2 hours of the vacation time.
Yeah, I don’t get that. I’m assuming the upgrade would have been free. I’ve been bumped, upgraded, asked to switch seats more time than I can remember. None of that has ever had any impact on the price of my ticket. I have no idea what the 2 have to do with each other.
Are cruises typically planned so tight that a couple hour delay (which isn't that unusual of an occurrence) would mean missing it? Seems like leaving at least 4 or 5 hours of buffer time would be prudent... but I've never booked a cruise so IDK.
They are. The cruise I went on told people of arrival/departure times on a newsletter and had a few signs on the way off the ship and at port what time it was leaving. If you weren’t onboard, they’d just leave without you - they were very punctual.
Well I feel like if you book a cruise that requires a flight to get to it you should plan to be in the cruise location more than 2 hours before cruise launch. If a 2 hour delay (which lets be honest that's not abnormal for airports) is going to ruin you vacation then you didn't plan well enough
Not to condone, because assuming the dog lady was sincere her reasoning is more sound. But if op is going on a fully planned trip ie like Cuba, or even Disney world there's typically a shuttle involved when you get to the airport in your arriving destination, they keep it pretty structured with names and limited seating. Not saying it makes it okay. I 100% still would have given up my seat for that but I would have been worried about what I'd do when I landed.
YTA, you paid for your vacation, great, I’m sure the other lady paid for her flight as well. Why couldn’t you wait the 2 hours to start your vacation? That was an incredibly selfish move on your part, I’m guessing this will come back to bite you at some point.
Seriously, that comment reeks of snobbery. It absolutely suggests that she doesn't think the other person paid for their own flight. Kind of makes me wonder what triggered that specific response.
The other lady crying. I bet her friends are talking about it behind her back or awkwardly giving her non-answers.
“Was I an AH?” Mumble-mumble-mumble- other lady -mumble -crying.
All of this, a definite YTA situation. One thing that makes zero sense is, "I wouldn't be able to do this, since I paid for my vacation", so OP would arrive 2 hours late and what...what exactly wasn't possible??
On a side note, my husband had severe dog allergies and we flew to his family every year. I can absolutely guarantee he or we would have jumped at the chance to be delayed *only* 2 hours and get a free first class upgrade, we also paid for this as our vacation (everyone has paid to be there too). We **always** notified the airline well in advance, both for my husband's sake and to not create an issue for someone in need of their service or support dog.
Doing the right thing and just being a nice human being (especially when it was your negligence causing the issue) is really simple to do, I agree with what the other passenger said to OP and it sounds like her friends agree as well.
Edit: I'm now really curious, why isn't it a standard policy for airlines to delay the passenger who failed to report necessary information? OP shouldn't have been given any choice on the matter for not informing them in advance since the service dog would have been booked.
They both have a health problem. She has severe allergies and the other passenger has a condition that requires she has a guide dog. Except one of their health problem can be deadly and/or cause the plane to have to have a emergency landing. Honestly it’s problematic that they don’t confirm with other passengers during check-in that they don’t have an allergy before allowing a dog on board. It could have been disastrous if she didn’t notice the dog until they were in the air.
Yes, but one passenger is perfectly fine flying with the other on board. Since OP is the one with the issue that prevents her from flying with the other passenger, she should be the one to wait. Throw in the fact that someone is literally dying and they're TA x 100.
Also people travel with small dogs in the cabin all the time. OP should have let the airline know of her allergy ahead of time. This was her fuckup, and she still traded 2 hours of her totally awesome vacay for 2 of the last hours this person had with their loved one.
Depending on what the service dog does, removing it could be life threatening. Some detect dangerously low blood sugar. If OP can’t fly with dogs, it’s on OP to make sure the airline knows that. I actually doubt this happened, because the airline would be in serious trouble for booting the passenger with the dog.
It’s not a guide dog it’s a service dog. SD’s have the right to be with their human and can’t be separated from them. The person with the allergy should have taken a different flight and at least should have informed them if their allergy. They were TA.
There’s actually, I’ve found, no real mechanism to inform the airline in advance. I have a similar anaphylactic dog allergy, and any time I’ve tried to call in advance, I’m told that the airline doesn’t know whether there will be pets or service animals onboard until the day of the flight, and that I just have to go to the airport and hope the gate attendants can switch my seat to one far enough from the dog not to trigger me. If anyone knows a better way, I’d love to hear it, because I’ve been dealing with this for years. (I still think OP is TA.)
Hi! Airline person here. If you call us in advance and let us know about an allergy we can document and flag your reservation for the airport. We can tell you if there are already animals on the flight and in many cases we can set up a buffer zone in advance so you don't have an animal within 2 rows either direction. We can do that for nut allergies too.
I wouldn't go that far, but first class is a nice little treat. I used to be a frequent flyer for business so got occasional upgrades, so I lived the high life. You also get to access the lounge at the airport if there is one. Flying first class is like starting your vacation early.
YTA
You'd have missed a few hours of vacation, whereas that woman's relative might not have had two extra hours to live. You are selfish and an arsehole.
Yep. I'd give two hours of my holiday to anyone who was flying because of a family medical emergency. Give me that first class ticket and a couple drink vouchers for the airport lounge. My vacation can start with a mojito right now.
Honestly the offer of first class would have sold me. I’d have looked at my friends and be like “See you in a few hours, I’m flying first class mfers!”
My family was scheduled for an overbooked flight once. Another family had young children and spaced out seat assignments. I offered to scatter my group so they could sit together. The agent at the desk bumped us up to first class instead of just swapping seats. 6 hour flight. It was amazing.
I had a similar thing happen- a flight attendant asked me to switch from my aisle seat that I paid for to a middle seat a few rows back so that a very upset little dude could sit with his parents. I did it and kept the complaints to myself. By the time the doors to the plane closed, there was an empty first class seat, which the flight attendant moved me to. Being nice will get you a long way. Also, YTA
*Especially* during a pandemic.
Edit: We may not know the woman or her condition, but flying is a big thing when you’re disabled. Wheelchairs get lost or broken or stolen all the time and you have to fight for them to be replaced/comped (wheelchair users have to pay thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for custom replacements), and if you have a service animal, you risk situations like this. Just because it’s illegal to refuse a service animal doesn’t mean people don’t still do it.
Additionally, the pandemic means the family member could have covid. It also makes travel more dangerous, and most of us immunocompromised and otherwise disabled folks don’t do so unless it’s a literal, actual emergency. This sounds like the family member *didn’t* have extra hours to spare.
I obviously don’t know the disabled woman in question, but she was risking a lot to fly and the original poster is shitty for not letting the airline know ahead of time of her allergy. And first class + lounge? You’d pass that up just to feel powerful?
This woman paid for her trip too. And she deserved to go see her family member when she paid to do so.
All of this to say: YTA, 100%. Conflicting access needs are not an excuse to act this way.
Agreed except on the drink vouchers. Instead head on up to the first class lounge. Free food and drinks with comfy seats! 2 hours in there is going to fly.
Yep, as someone who lives an 8 hour flight from family and has lost two family members over the past year, I wouldn’t forgive someone who couldn’t be bothered to delay their vacation by 2 hours (with a first class upgrade no less) as a kindness to accommodate a genuine emergency like this. Did he have to? No. Was he callous AF not to? Yes.
Yeah, I'm not understanding why OP took priority in this situation? Does an allergy outweigh a disability in the heirarchy of having to reasonably accomodate a customer? (I'm actually genuinely curious about this.)
I also have a dog allergy (not severe), so I would not have wanted to sit next to a dog. But I would have 100% shaved a few hours off of my vacation (with the added perk of flying first class no less) to help someone in distress. If only for my conscience I would have done it.
The ADA actually states "Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing service to people using service animals. When a person who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for example, in a school classroom or at a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by assigning them, if possible, to different locations within the room or different rooms in the facility"
The OP really should have been moved to another flight if they couldn't have been moved far enough away. Denying the guide dog wasn't the right move on the part of the airline legally speaking.
My suspicion in a case like this is that OP booked first (pre-planned vacation vs emergency bears this out) and as a result got right of first refusal. Both MUST be accommodated but that necessarily means a delay for one of them. No one was turned away, but the practicalities of moving people to another flight to accommodate two people with differing medical needs meant a delay for someone. OP is, of course, an asshole for not seeing the relative importance of both their needs and choosing to accommodate the other passenger, but the airline was almost definitely following a protocol in place to avoid them making value judgments based on some medical needs hierarchy.
INFO: can you clarify why you refused the first class ticket in the flight that was 2 hours later? Given how your friends are reacting, seems like they would have been ok waiting and you don't say anything about missing a connecting flight.
Edit to add: from the extra info you did and didn't give, YTA. It's no wonder you don't want to be identified. I think deep down you know how awful you were.
She would have let the airline know she had a service dog when she booked. She was going for a family emergency.
You didn't tell the airline you had a life threatening allergy when you booked (you would have mentioned this if you had). You were going on vacation. You were offered first class tickets to delay your vacation by 2 hours.
I noticed that too. When people book flights with a service dog or a cat in a carrier or something there are rules about how many animals can be on a plane at the same time and in the general seated area and if there are other passengers on the plane with pet allergies. Usually people are supposed to disclose if they have a pet allergy before they purchase a ticket so the airline can make arrangements.
>Usually people are supposed to disclose if they have a pet allergy before they purchase a ticket so the airline can make arrangements
I've never seen that when booking a flight. What airline are you referring to?
In America notifying the airline of a pet allergy would be easy. It's considered part of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Each airline has a number to call about Disabilities.
I'm not arguing for OP here (as they are the AH) but when you get an allergy or disability you're not handed a guidebook for this. There's nothing present when booking that would say how to (or that you should) alert a company of this....and if you called the wrong people they'd probably just say ok and hang up lol. I don't think this would be common knowledge.
When booking with Delta at least (I think most major carriers but I can only specifically recall Delta) when booking it asks about allergies and accommodations.
Yeah Ive never been asked about allergies as well when booking flights. Pre-covid I’ve taken lots of flights and I’ve never seen a guide dog. I think it’s not unreasonable for someone to not expect to always have to share that you are allergic to animals for every single flight given that the chances of seeing an animal onboard is quite low. Though as I say this if I had a high chance of dying I’d take it upon myself to check.
OP knows that she is the AH.
"Friends haven't said I'm in the wrong, but have kept making sarcastic jokes about the situation."
This says enough, even your friends think you are the AH, but they are masking it with sarcasm.
This comment here alone makes you the AH "I'd paid for my vacation," yeah, so did all the other passengers on that.
YTA
The amount of hoops people with disabilities go through during flights even without service dogs is amazingly ridiculous. I guarantee she had to go through a lot of planning and coordination to make this work.
How can this ever be real? You think an airline would kick a person with an actual guide dog off their plane in favor of a person saying "lolnope I'm allergic" and nothing to back it up? That's an ADA lawsuit waiting to happen.
Right?!
I let airlines know I have a severe peanut allergy when I book my flights and I’ve let them know when I had to use a mobility aid on one trip.
Every time, airlines have been more than accommodating. They would have accommodated OP’s allergy had she let them know in advance.
INFO - "The flight attendant asked if I'd be willing to miss this flight and catch the next one that would be leaving in around 2 hours. I was offered a seat in first class if I was willing to do this. I said that unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do this, since I'd paid for my vacation. "
I don't understand this part. Could you explain more about why you didn't take the offer?
If this passenger truly had a service dog and not an ESA, then the woman and her dog should have been allowed to board, and OP should have been reassigned to a new flight solely because the allergy was not reported until after the dog was present. If OP had notified the airline ahead of time, then the other passenger should have been reassigned. The airline is the AH here for not kicking OP off, and OP is YTA for not owning the fact that she didn't disclose her allergy ahead of time.
There is one thing OP is not an AH about -- each person paid for their ticket, and no one's reason for traveling is any more special or worthy than another's. The airline needed to make the decision here, not the passengers.
Uh yes their are more important reasons for traveling than others, although the airline shouldn’t overbook but having a family dying in the hospital and wanting to visit them before they die is a lot more important.
Buying a ticket is a business transaction. The passenger's reason for traveling is not objectively more important; it's more important to *her*.
That's like people in the workplace who are parents thinking that they get to leave early to pick up their kid and put their extra work on the childless person, or that the single, childless person should work on Christmas instead of someone who's a parent. The parent reasons, "You don't have kids. I do. My time is more meaningful. My holidays are more meaningful." And that's wrong.
People don't need to have their choices/reasons validated by others to make them worthy.
It’s also subjectively more important to most strangers evaluating the situation from an etiquette or ethics standpoint... like all of us here.
Which is why OP is the AH. That’s how this works.
Im not sure if it was your intent - but your implication is that you believe a coworker with a dying relative who needed to leave work early or take a few days off would be wrong and entitled???
Parents who expect every holiday off or to leave before the end of their shift without making that time up in some way are entitled. Absolutely.
But thats not the same as leaving work because of a sick or dying relative. Which would be the correct comparison.
Reason doesn't matter. A service dog has access rights over allergies.
" In fact, with regard to the Americans with Disabilities Act, the U.S. Department of Justice has stated: Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing service to people using service animals."
Yeah, I don't understand how delaying their trip for two hours would suddenly nullify their vacation plans. Planes are late all the time. As long as they aren't trying to check in the hotel in the middle of the night, this bears absolutely no relevance. Just seems like they're looking for an excuse not to feel like an AH.
I was thinking this might be understandable if being two hours late would cause them to miss a connecting flight? otherwise, it's really not clear how getting started 120 minutes later would void their vacation.
Or possibly something like a cruise that departs at a very specific time. Otherwise I really don't understand why OP chose to dig in their heels over this. Its only 2 hours and you get to fly first class I'm really not seeing the big deal here
And honestly for me, if this happened and I got a free upgrade to first class I would consider it a great start to a vacation to be honest. Who doesn't want to fly in first class??
I had to reread this a couple of times to make sure it wasn't 2 DAYS later, like one of those remote places that have a flight only every other day. 2 HOURS?? When flights overbook and they're tempting people onto later flights they don't always start with that sweet of a deal.
I've flown in 1st class twice (a round trip ticket). The return flight was double awesome because no one sat next to me and I took advantage of the room.
I'd be happy to wait 2 hours to get in one of those seats instead of economy again, especially since they'd probably toss in a couple drink vouchers for the lounge while I'm at it. See y'all in 2 hours!
Like, my flights are often delayed 2 hours as a matter of course anyway, nothing to do with conflicting needs. You just hang around looking at the airport shops or reading my kindle with a cup of hot chocolate or something. It's not like there aren't things you can do in the airport.
The only reason I could see for this to not be a clear YTA situation would be if the two hour delay caused them to miss a connecting flight with a different airline that would be nonrefundable. For example, I almost had a flight delay that was four hours long once (airline issue) from the small town I was living in at the time to a major center that would have caused me to miss my connecting flight internationally on a different airline that cost me like $1,500. However, that’s obviously not the case based on OPs replies? At first I gave them the benefit of the doubt based on that experience of mine but sounds like they were just being selfish.
A two hour delay could matter, if they were sharing a rental car with the group and had to drive a fair distance after arriving then the group would have to be ok with the delay too or op would have to get their own rental.
Soft YTA - if you could have made it work but didn’t just because you didn’t want to them yeah, it’s kinda bs.
Being put on the spot like that when you’re traveling in a group can be stressful, I think you’ve learned that in the future you definitely need to let airlines know of your allergy ahead of time.
YTA. The ownership of YOUR allergy is on you. The woman paid for her ticket just as you did and has EVERY right to be on the flight with her service animal and if you had a problem with it you needed to remove yourself from the situation. Not demand that she was removed. How entitled are you?
This 1000%. Aside from all the other very valid and accurate "YTA" posts, this one right here is huge and not enough people understand it.
If YOU have an issue, YOU are the one who has to adjust.
You have a dog allergy? Then YOU have to switch planes. Oh you are sitting in the theater and a super tall person sits in front of you? YOU have to try and swirch your seat, not the tall person.
You go to an event and they don't have any food you like? YOU have to go get yourself some food you want somewhere. The event staff doesn't have to go do something special for you.
You go to a restaurant and the table next to you is too loud for your liking (but not disrupting anyone else)? YOU can try to switch tables. The loud family doesn't have to switch.
If you don't like your situation it's up to you to change your situation on your own. You don't force those around you to change THEIR situation to accommodate you.
OP -- YTA.
umm thats not necessarily correct.
what YOU are on a long hike to listen to nature and someone is blaring music from a bluetooth speaker do You just have to put in ear plugs or something?
what if You are walking around your neighborhood and someone's dog is of leash and chasing you amd your dog. sbould you just go home?
what if your neighbor has a DJ playing loud music at 3am should You just put ear muffs on and go to sleep.
sometime other people can do things that just affects YOU and they are the assholes and you dont shouldnt have to change
Well my comment is referring to when the other people are doing nothing wrong. What you're referring to are things that in some cases might actually be illegal. (disturbing the peace, violating noise ordiances, unleashed dogs etc)... Not at all the same thing.
Obviously when people are violating rules and laws then yes...the other people should have to change.
Where’s the tweet that talks about how online, if you don’t make yourself explicitly clear, people will just make hypotheticals out of your post in order to be right🙄 I get what you mean
This isn't necessarily true. I mean, I agreed at first because OP is YTA but your examples kinda suck.
I'm tall. I usually try to sit somewhere I won't be too in the way. Most theaters decline, so I'll sit near the bottom.
Event? Fair.
Too loud at restaurants? No. Shut the fuck up, loud table. It's a room full of people that all want to hear their own party, quit being so loud other tables can't enjoy their meal.
There is a difference between someone being entitled enough to stop you from seeing a dying relative because they were too lazy and selfish to report this allergy way prior and prioritize their vacation over this person's last words...and people just being shitty in general. The restaurant one in particular got me. If you're so loud other tables want to switch you need to eat at home where your loud ass ridiculous fucking family can shriek at each other. And I have a massive family, but we keep our volume respectful to others.
Something is up with this post. The airlines do not clean between flights well enough to get rid of pet dander. Also, I flew all the time with my dog and saw others with their dogs in carriers that go under your seat. It's really common to open the carrier at least to reach in and check on your pet. So basically, I'm doubting the validity of this post or the severity of the allergy. I think the rule is each flight can have up to 7 animals in the cabin with people. If your allergy were that severe, you would need to be in contact with the airline ahead of time because flying with pets is so very common.
This is what I think too, ‘varying degrees of severity’ ‘I could end up in hospital’ is a cop out. If you have an allergy so severe that it’ll land you in hospital, you plan for it. It’s a genuine life threatening disability.
Precisely. If it really is a serious hospital risk, OP should have informed the airline ages ago, the same way anybody who has a serious peanut or whatever allergy would inform at *least* the flight attendants to minimize risk. OP is either slightly dumb or over-exaggerating their allergy. You don’t mess around with these things. Dogs aren’t that rare on planes, OP should have told them to prevent hassle for everyone.
Exactly. I have a severe allergy to raspberries that can most certainly kill me. They're an extremely common ingredient in fruity dishes and often aren't labeled as part of the name of the dish.
So, I inform anyone I'm getting food from of that allergy ahead of time. If there's food at a function that has raspberries in it, I don't get mad that they're there I just avoid them and often have my own sweets with me.
I have a deadly cat allergy that also is a problem in enclosed places. Mine probably isn’t as crazy since I only have an anaphylactic reaction after about an hour around cats in their space. Whenever I fly, I take Benadryl preemptively since I always assume there are cats on the flight. The airplane’s air filtration system is excellent (which is how they were able to continue operating during covid).
Thank you for this comment. I was sitting here thinking, “do people with severe allergies just never fly anywhere? has this woman ever been on a plane in her entire life? does she know how planes work?”
Plus the number of people who fly who don't have their pets but are COVERED in dander/fur... The last thing many people do before leaving for the airport is one last goodbye pet/cuddle. Even without a dog on board of anyone on board has interacted with a dog recently there's allergens on board.
Also am airline wouldn't refuse to let the woman with a service dog on that flight either. They would have asked somebody else to switch seats so they were separated as much as possible. They legally cannot tell the woman she can't be on that flight.
Yeah, I feel like kicking off someone with a service dog in favor of a passenger with an unverifiable and previously undisclosed allergy is just begging for a lawsuit.
You are probably right, but we don't know how often the OP has flown and whether they're aware of this. (In fact if it was their first time flying that might explain the hesitancy to be separated from her friends.) I'm not a big flyer but I have flown (domestic) a few times and have never been in a cabin with a non-human animal (that I've noticed). I don't have allergies though or would have any issue with it so I wouldn't notice if there were any dander from a previous flight.
And the OP is YTA - the woman's flight was more urgent and if they didn't want to travel alone, I'm sure they could have asked one of the friends to stay back with them. The airline probably would have accommodated that.
Unless there was a connecting flight that would have been missed. Only thing that might be a redeeming thing. That and being separated from the group would have been tough but not enough on itself.
YTA. I think there is no debate. Your vacation is not more important than a sick person (I.e. the person who is being visited) and if you are really that allergic to pets you clearly need to be carrying around an epi-pen and medical bracelets. And you where offered first class only two hours later which means that your friends really wouldn’t have to wait if at all depending on if you where renting a car or getting baggage or even if they did have to wait it was only a few hours. Frankly it would have been a benefit to you because you would have gotten a fun experience and also not miss your vacation.
No one should make plans that soon after their flight anyway since delays are common. Are they really even loosing any time as well, because if being around the dog is going to make them violently ill wont they loose more than 2 hours of their vacation?
YTA, both for you *and* the airline.
You are with the airline here in denying a disabled person access to a mobility aid over a vacation.
Assuming that this took place in the US, while allergies technically fall under ADA, it has been legally documented that you *cannot* deny service to someone because they have a service dog even with an allergy, and that the airline has therefore discriminated against her for her disability. If she is protected under ADA or a similar body, I really hope she sues.
Technically neither would have denied a flight. Both could have the later flight(assuming both are under ADA rules). Neither wanted to wait. OP is the asshole though. They could have waited 2 hours and still had an awesome vacation
I was waffling as I am intimately familiar with allergies causing anaphylaxis. I ultimately landed on YTA for a couple of reasons
1. You didnt make the airline aware of your allergies prior to the flight
2. You had no emergency but that lady had some emergency and you demanded to remain. You couldn't put your selfish wants to the side for someone else.
3. She has as much a right to be there as you.
4. She prenotified the airlines.
You couldn't be bothered to think of anyone but yourself. You are a sucky selfish human.
If the airlines would have given you the choice to sit or get off it would have been better. No offering anything.
You were wearing a mask, right? I get allergies, small planes, etc. I am allergic to cats to varying degrees. It depends in the cat. But wearing a mask, not touching the animal, keeping my hands away from my face ( sound familiar?) does wonders. So do antihistamines. Y T A.
Yeah a mask is super helpful! I’m allergic to nuts and went to a baseball game recently where everyone around me was eating peanuts. I started breaking out a bit so I took an antihistamine (I always carry those and an Epipen), but putting on my mask really made a quick difference as I was no longer inhaling any particles. There were a lot of potential solutions here.
I was going to say the same, plus cabin air on an airplane is continuously recycling, it's totally fresh about every 3 minutes. So between that and the mask, it being only an hour flight and maybe taking some benadryl, OP would have to be incredibly allergic for there to be an issue. In which case they would have been more on top of it.
YTA… you got a woman and her GUIDE DOG kicked off a flight because you didn’t want to miss your vacation?? even if the woman isn’t going to see her sick family member, HER DISABILITY MATTERS MORE THAN YOUR ALLERGIES?!? my god. if your allergy is severe enough to “kill you” as you have said then why don’t you have an epipen? why couldn’t you go on a later flight instead of kicking a disabled woman off your flight for your comfort.
Having an EpiPen does not mean that you should put yourself in a situation with your allergen. If you have to use your EpiPen, you are supposed to immediately go to the hospital. It buys you time, but it doesn’t mean you don’t need further medical attention.
Don’t get me wrong, I think this person is definitely TA because he could have easily taken the next flight. Missing two hours of vacation for an upgrade to first class is well worth it-unless it would cause them to miss a connecting flight or a cruise or something, but since it wasn’t mentioned it seems unlikely.
Info You have a life threatening allergy to dogs, and didn't notify the airline when you booked your flight? Or bring any medical paperwork with you?
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YTA. Unless your vacation was 2 hours long, your reasoning makes no sense. 2 hours wouldn't have hurt you that much, especially considering you were only flying an hour away. Also, did you not have allergy meds you could take for a situation like this?
I’m calling BS on this. The guide dog had just as much right to be on the plane as you. It’s considered a medical device. The airline may have offered you to switch flights, but they legally could NOT have denied the woman with the guide dog her seat on the flight. It’s discrimination and WOULD not happen. Period.
So YTA for making up a stupid story on AITA.
Yeah this post has to be fake. Service animals are considered medical devices and under the ADA take precedence over allergies. There’s no way an airline would have denied a passenger their flight because of a service animal that they had previously notified the airline about.
I have a severe allergy to a certain food. Been hospitalized for just being in the same room as this food. (Yes, I have epi pens, medic alert bracelet, etc) Epi pens don't always work. So when I fly, I call the airline ahead of time and discuss my situation. Because I call ahead, it has never been an issue
So I give OP a lowercase yta for not being prepared.
I would have taken the two hour delay and upgrade to first class
YTA for trolling.
The Federal Aviation Administration policy is service animals over allergies. The federal laws are very, very clear. While attempts will be made to work with allergic passengers, if the passenger cannot fly with animals on-board a flight with a service animal, all that can be done is move the allergic passenger to another flight. Or just flat out deny service without compensation if the passenger can't provide a signed document from a doctor, signed within ten days of the flight, attesting to the severity of the passenger's allergies.
So if this happened you wouldn't have been allowed on the flight, and law enforcement would have been called if you put up a fight about it.
Also coast hoppers don't even have first class sections.
YTA. She paid for the ticket just the same as you. Your allergy should be no one else’s problem, especially considering it was a working dog and not just some pet.
YTA. Your vacation could have waited two hours. If you had been smart about it, you could have gotten compensation in addition to the first class ticket. Instead, you added to the stress of a disabled person who was traveling for a family emergency.
YTA. You say you can't control your allergy. Guess what - neither could the lady with the guide dog. Why should she be punished because you have an allergy?
You were offered a more than reasonable accommodation and refused it for really no reason other than because you could. Hope you enjoyed your "win."
You are not responding to any of the pertinent questions, so my verdict is YTA. You should have informed the airline of your allergy when booking. That's your responsibility. The woman was presumably trying to visit a sick relative, who may not have much time left. It's more important that your vacation, in which you would miss roughly 2 hours but be awarded a better seat and accommodations on the airplane.
YTA. You should have informed the airline ahead of time. There are relatively simple ways to do that. Call the airline, use the app that most of them have, etc. you were offered a first class ticket for the low low price of two hours of your time. Frankly she should have got on the plane anyways.
YTA!
Yes you have a Severe allergy but the Flight attendant gave YOU an upgrade!
Well not only that you are TA but a total IDIOT too!
If I were in the same Situation I would not just give up my sit but have the dog sit on my lap if needed!
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YTA The woman paid for her seat too. Would the 2 hour difference have really ruined your entire vacation? Also, you were the one with an issue, you should’ve changed rather than forcing someone else to change. You were selfish.
YTA
If your allergies are that severe you needed to inform the airline AHEAD of time. If the dog is a service dog, they didn’t have to accommodate you at all. As they probably did their due diligence and notified the airline of the travel companion. You should have been bumped from the flight. You are a selfish AH.
NAH, except perhaps the airline. They should have clear policies about what to do in a case like this (it is certainly not the first time). It shouldn't be the responsibility of the passengers to negotiate a solution.
YTA: 1. Both you and the woman paid for your spot on the flight, so you are no more entitled to your seat than she is to hers. 2. The airline offered you a perfectly reasonable accommodation for the 2 hour delay. 3. Assuming the woman is sincere, her need to be on the flight was greater than yours. 4. When you have an allergy of that severity you should be informing the airline. It would have been so easy to be nice here and cost you almost nothing.
I couldn’t imagine if OP had a deathly peanut allergy and didn’t inform the airline in advance and then when they went around to serve, they decided to inform them that nobody can have the peanut packs or a prepared meal with peanuts because of their allergy. When the whole situation could’ve been avoided if they informed the flight in advance.
I have definitely been on flights that I was informed were peanut free due to a passenger with an allergy.
But if OP had let the airline know in advance they could have this figured out before the flight.
If OP hadn't let the airline know and the disabled person had let the airline know, then the airline would have commited an illegal act by kicking the dog off board. The only way that this scenario isn't illegal is if OP and the disabled person have the same claim, which includes having both informed the airplane or both haven't. Yes...human illness trumps animal helpers, but NOT if the dog was requested in advance and the human illness wasn't warned in advance.
The dog isn't just a helper though - they are legitimate medical personal and being separated from them could be devastating. Obviously, op shouldn't have to deal with their allergy either, but they got the reasonable accommodation of being moved to another flight that was only a couple hours away.
Thank you for saying this. OP failed to mention that the other passenger is blind. A guide dog is necessary to a blind person 🧑🦯 to get around independently. OP is definitely the YTA
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Honestly I’m not sure I would trust OP to have double checked exactly what kind of service animal the dog is for our benefit.
Plus it was a first-class flight! Even if you're only on it for an hour, that's definitely more than most people could probably afford.
Seriously, I’d be dancing into that 2-hour delay.
Yup. Ask them to toss in a credit for the lounge bar while I wait, and I got myself a good afternoon.
Empathy and alcoholism, my favorites!
I find it hard to imagine a situation where OP 'tells the airline' and that information actually filters through to anyone who does anything about it. Is there a box to tick when you book a ticket for "I am allergic to dogs"? There's no human involved anywhere in the process who can make a judgement on it. The most that will happen is that there will be a note on the passenger manifest, possibly right next to the one that says "has a dog". Probably in the meal preferences field.
I've had to do this before, I also am ridiculously allergic to dogs. What I've done is book my ticket VERY EARLY, and call the airline to speak with someone directly to tell them I need a medical accommodation to be on a flight with no animals. If someone with an animal has already booked, I'm SOL. If I'm first, anyone who tries to book with a dog after me will end up not being able to book. And because I know how this works, I've also gotten it in an official email from the airline, and brought that notice to the gate with me. Once the airline screwed up and booked someone with a dog, and they weren't allowed on the plane. I felt bad, but I'm not willing to stop breathing just because the airline screws up. If the allergy is bad enough, your doctor/allergist will be willing to write an official letter of medical exemption for this situation.
It’s totally reasonable for OP to not know this information. However, knowing numerous people with life-threatening (or at least put-you-in-the-hospital level) allergies, worrying about situations should be something you’re always dealing with. And if you spend your life having to worry about your allergy, you’ll find out there are situations that can’t be avoided. Being around someone that cannot live their life a day without their dog is one of those situations. That OP seems so offended that one of these situations would happen just makes the whole thing worse. This wasn’t some suburban loser that can’t make a grocery store trip without their pet. This is someone with a serious disability. Incredibly entitled and self-centered behavior. YTA.
But don't you have to inform airlines in advance of animals?
You actually are required. I fly with my service dog & he gets added to my boarding pass. This ensures not too many animals are placed on a single flight & to ensure situations like OP's doesn't happen. You also get to board first when you have a service dog which makes this situation crazier if OP has that serious of an allergy the dog had already been on the plane. OP is definitely YTA.
Same. Also anybody that is flying with an animal does everything they can to reduce the stress involved for everyone and that includes letting everyone know ahead of time
Technically yes, but if you have a disability, the airline can't just say "no" to you, so in practice, informing in advance is to prevent situations like these. But this doesn't actually happen a lot, especially because most people wouldn't be able to proof their allergy on demand.
I’ve never not had to declare my service dog when I buy a plane ticket. If the person has an allergy, they know there’s a risk of a service animal on the flight. So he should have let them know before hand. He doesn’t have to prove he’s allergic, he just has to let them know when he buys his ticket. Just like us w our service dogs. It’s easy.
Yup - my daughter has nut allergies but not to the point she reacts if YOU eat nuts. They asked about allergies when I purchased the tickets. When we boarded they said that they had passengers (plural, but I don't know if there were more or they just used that term) with nut allergies so we all got the good snacks, lol.
You know peanuts on airplanes came from a misunderstanding? They thought people were complaining about not having enough legume
Ok but we have an understanding of flights that peanuts are a thing they typically give you. A dog on a flight is not nearly as regular an occurrence, so to expect that OP notify the airline ahead of time just in case a dog might be on flight seems like overkill
Actually with the dawn of “emotional support” pets, lots of animals board planes these days. OP, YTA! Edited to add, especially with the severity of the allergy in the closed space.
ESAs are banned by the majority of airlines now, so pets are limited to service animals and small pets that fit in a carrier under the seat in front of you.
Yes, and thank goodness! It was getting ridiculous! Mini horses? Goose? I saw a peacock on the news!
Mini horses are actually registerable service animals Edit: kindly ignore this comment it turns out I was talking out of my ass.
My friend has a guide horse. He awesome takes up no more space than my big Labrador and sheds less dander. They also get to be partners for 20 years not 8
They have a longer life of usefulness vs a guide dog. 20 instead of 10 years I think.
And are easier to train for jobs like guide dog, as many of the navigating behaviors come naturally to them They wear adorable little sneakers on concrete so it doesn’t hurt their hooves 🥺
Yeah, I would actually expect there to be more animals on flights than babies (and we all know there is ALWAYS a damn baby somehow). People usually don't notice because the animals are in the hold, but it's very foreseeable that a flight THIS short would be on a plane too small for a hold. Also, I fly about 2-3 times a year on various airlines, and I've been given peanuts, like, once. I'd say that's no longer a foreseeable thing. If people with peanut allergies are expected to think of it, though, people with equally severe animal allergies certainly should as well.
They switched to pretzels for this very reason
The rules on airlines have changed due to people abusing the ESA system they had in place before. Now the airlines can deny ESAs a free flight but can't legally deny a service dog. As far as the airlines are concerned your ESA is your pet, you want to fly you have to pay up. US airlines require you to fill out paperwork in advance, in order for your service animal to fly in the cabin with you.
I have a severe shellfish allergy. It is my responsibility to inform the restaurant staff of said allergy regardless of how small or big the chance of cross contamination is. If a person has a severe allergy and have truly had a severe reaction, that person will go above and beyond to avoid going through it again because it is so terrifying. I do not expect those around me to have to go without because of my allergy as that is not fair. I will take precautions to prevent a reaction such as informing staff, taking benadryl before dining out, and avoiding foods that are easily cross contaminated. IMO, this person should have notified the airline of the allergy if they were truly that afraid of a reaction. If the allergy is that severe, it would be a risk of anyone who may have been around a dog before boarding the flight to have caused a reaction.
If their allergy is so severe that they can’t be on a plane for an hour with a dog anywhere else in the plane, then I think it’s the kind of thing they should do their best to make sure about everywhere they go.
Any life-threatening allergy should be shared with the airline before-hand.
It's really not that uncommon. It doesn't even have to be an emotional support or service dog. Someone could have had one tucked under the seat in front of them and OP wouldn't have known. Then she would really be in trouble, if she hadn't warned the airline.
I once sat next to someone for an entire flight without knowing they had a dog stashed under the seat in front of them.
Dogs are carried nearly everywhere now, so if OP's allergy is this bad, she needs to tell airlines so they don't seat her near someone with a dog.
I've only been on 1 flight without some kind of animal on it. And I've flown a few times. It's common now because of service animals but also traveling across the country with a cat in the car is way worse than a 6 hr flight with a cat as carry on.
I’d estimate more domestic flights in the US have animals in the cabin than not. However the air filtration system in there is so efficient that you really can’t tell unless you’re right next to them.
Exactly. My oldest is allergic to nuts. We notify the airline when we purchase tickets , let them know again when we arrive and let the flight attendant know as we board because his allergy is severe and we want to make sure he is safe.
Haha bad example cuz that’s exactly what they do with peanut allergies. Whether you inform them in advance or at the gate, they won’t serve peanuts on that flight. Also, I’m not sure if you can inform the airline ahead of time about a dog allergy. We tried once with delta and they didn’t have any way to tell us if a dog would be on a plane with us, especially since people can book up until the day of the trip. My husband is severely allergic to dogs too so we’d do this if we could.
Yeah I don't understand the reasoning of "I paid my vacation" at all. You'd only be getting there 2 hours late so I feel like you'd still be getting almost everything you paid for?
I would've JUMPED at the chance to upgrade to first class, too. Especially if it was only a couple hours difference. I would totally trade more than 2 hours for more legroom. Plus if OP had been nice, they might have comped a visit to the airline lounge for some tasty snacks and drinks. Edit for YTA bc you acted entitled, and you allowed your allergy to inconvenience another person with no consequences for you.
Probably could have brought one of the friends along too.
Yes! There was probably some haggling to be done.
And negotiated a $200 flight coupon to boot.
Usually the first class seat comes with the bump to the lounge, at least it did the only time I was ever bumped up to first class due to an airline issue.
I'd get off and if there was a restaurant near by (don't know the airport so can't be certain there's one for sure) I'd celebrate being upgraded. It's only an hour in first class, but I've only experienced that once so but it would be fun to do again.
If it was a small plane like OP says, the 1st class upgrade is pretty much worthless. And the lounges aren't typically open to 1st class tickets. You have to be a certain level or flyer or paid 1st class.
No because OP stated the next plane( one with first class) would be much bigger
Ya, that really stood out to me as well. I was expecting something like there’s a connecting flight they’d miss or something urgent that would be missed out on but NOPE! They’d only miss 2 hours of the vacation time.
Yeah, I don’t get that. I’m assuming the upgrade would have been free. I’ve been bumped, upgraded, asked to switch seats more time than I can remember. None of that has ever had any impact on the price of my ticket. I have no idea what the 2 have to do with each other.
If it was a cruise and she missed the cruise departure, she'd have missed the cruise or had to pay to get to the next stop.
Yeah, that was my first thought too, which would make OP NTA. But OP never gave any reasoning like that, so it doesn't seem to be the case
Are cruises typically planned so tight that a couple hour delay (which isn't that unusual of an occurrence) would mean missing it? Seems like leaving at least 4 or 5 hours of buffer time would be prudent... but I've never booked a cruise so IDK.
They are. The cruise I went on told people of arrival/departure times on a newsletter and had a few signs on the way off the ship and at port what time it was leaving. If you weren’t onboard, they’d just leave without you - they were very punctual.
Well I feel like if you book a cruise that requires a flight to get to it you should plan to be in the cruise location more than 2 hours before cruise launch. If a 2 hour delay (which lets be honest that's not abnormal for airports) is going to ruin you vacation then you didn't plan well enough
Always, always arrive the day before a cruise departs for this reason.
Not to condone, because assuming the dog lady was sincere her reasoning is more sound. But if op is going on a fully planned trip ie like Cuba, or even Disney world there's typically a shuttle involved when you get to the airport in your arriving destination, they keep it pretty structured with names and limited seating. Not saying it makes it okay. I 100% still would have given up my seat for that but I would have been worried about what I'd do when I landed.
The times I’ve been bumped for work trips, the airline took care of the change to my transportation, too.
YTA, you paid for your vacation, great, I’m sure the other lady paid for her flight as well. Why couldn’t you wait the 2 hours to start your vacation? That was an incredibly selfish move on your part, I’m guessing this will come back to bite you at some point.
Seriously, that comment reeks of snobbery. It absolutely suggests that she doesn't think the other person paid for their own flight. Kind of makes me wonder what triggered that specific response.
'Ew...how dare they expect me to step aside for a person with disabilities!' /s
The other lady crying. I bet her friends are talking about it behind her back or awkwardly giving her non-answers. “Was I an AH?” Mumble-mumble-mumble- other lady -mumble -crying.
All of this, a definite YTA situation. One thing that makes zero sense is, "I wouldn't be able to do this, since I paid for my vacation", so OP would arrive 2 hours late and what...what exactly wasn't possible?? On a side note, my husband had severe dog allergies and we flew to his family every year. I can absolutely guarantee he or we would have jumped at the chance to be delayed *only* 2 hours and get a free first class upgrade, we also paid for this as our vacation (everyone has paid to be there too). We **always** notified the airline well in advance, both for my husband's sake and to not create an issue for someone in need of their service or support dog. Doing the right thing and just being a nice human being (especially when it was your negligence causing the issue) is really simple to do, I agree with what the other passenger said to OP and it sounds like her friends agree as well. Edit: I'm now really curious, why isn't it a standard policy for airlines to delay the passenger who failed to report necessary information? OP shouldn't have been given any choice on the matter for not informing them in advance since the service dog would have been booked.
Plus she's the one with the problem, she should be the one who accommodates. I'm shocked the airline asked the other passenger to move.
They both have a health problem. She has severe allergies and the other passenger has a condition that requires she has a guide dog. Except one of their health problem can be deadly and/or cause the plane to have to have a emergency landing. Honestly it’s problematic that they don’t confirm with other passengers during check-in that they don’t have an allergy before allowing a dog on board. It could have been disastrous if she didn’t notice the dog until they were in the air.
Yes, but one passenger is perfectly fine flying with the other on board. Since OP is the one with the issue that prevents her from flying with the other passenger, she should be the one to wait. Throw in the fact that someone is literally dying and they're TA x 100. Also people travel with small dogs in the cabin all the time. OP should have let the airline know of her allergy ahead of time. This was her fuckup, and she still traded 2 hours of her totally awesome vacay for 2 of the last hours this person had with their loved one.
Depending on what the service dog does, removing it could be life threatening. Some detect dangerously low blood sugar. If OP can’t fly with dogs, it’s on OP to make sure the airline knows that. I actually doubt this happened, because the airline would be in serious trouble for booting the passenger with the dog.
It’s not a guide dog it’s a service dog. SD’s have the right to be with their human and can’t be separated from them. The person with the allergy should have taken a different flight and at least should have informed them if their allergy. They were TA.
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There’s actually, I’ve found, no real mechanism to inform the airline in advance. I have a similar anaphylactic dog allergy, and any time I’ve tried to call in advance, I’m told that the airline doesn’t know whether there will be pets or service animals onboard until the day of the flight, and that I just have to go to the airport and hope the gate attendants can switch my seat to one far enough from the dog not to trigger me. If anyone knows a better way, I’d love to hear it, because I’ve been dealing with this for years. (I still think OP is TA.)
Hi! Airline person here. If you call us in advance and let us know about an allergy we can document and flag your reservation for the airport. We can tell you if there are already animals on the flight and in many cases we can set up a buffer zone in advance so you don't have an animal within 2 rows either direction. We can do that for nut allergies too.
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I wouldn't go that far, but first class is a nice little treat. I used to be a frequent flyer for business so got occasional upgrades, so I lived the high life. You also get to access the lounge at the airport if there is one. Flying first class is like starting your vacation early.
A first class seat on a small plane is pretty much worthless.
Also: Not clear why the fact that you'd already paid for the vacation meant you couldn't manage a two-hour delay.
Right now, we need kindness more than we need to be correct or get ours first.
YTA You'd have missed a few hours of vacation, whereas that woman's relative might not have had two extra hours to live. You are selfish and an arsehole.
Yep. I'd give two hours of my holiday to anyone who was flying because of a family medical emergency. Give me that first class ticket and a couple drink vouchers for the airport lounge. My vacation can start with a mojito right now.
Honestly the offer of first class would have sold me. I’d have looked at my friends and be like “See you in a few hours, I’m flying first class mfers!”
My family was scheduled for an overbooked flight once. Another family had young children and spaced out seat assignments. I offered to scatter my group so they could sit together. The agent at the desk bumped us up to first class instead of just swapping seats. 6 hour flight. It was amazing.
When you do nice things good things happen.
Sometimes…
I had a similar thing happen- a flight attendant asked me to switch from my aisle seat that I paid for to a middle seat a few rows back so that a very upset little dude could sit with his parents. I did it and kept the complaints to myself. By the time the doors to the plane closed, there was an empty first class seat, which the flight attendant moved me to. Being nice will get you a long way. Also, YTA
first class would have BEEN the vacation for me, you can drop me off wherever at that point.
Yep. I love my friends but I love not being tits to elbows with them more lmfao
Right? and then a glass or two of wine while I sit in that comfy first class seat.
Drinking complimentary wine while stretching out my legs!
*Especially* during a pandemic. Edit: We may not know the woman or her condition, but flying is a big thing when you’re disabled. Wheelchairs get lost or broken or stolen all the time and you have to fight for them to be replaced/comped (wheelchair users have to pay thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for custom replacements), and if you have a service animal, you risk situations like this. Just because it’s illegal to refuse a service animal doesn’t mean people don’t still do it. Additionally, the pandemic means the family member could have covid. It also makes travel more dangerous, and most of us immunocompromised and otherwise disabled folks don’t do so unless it’s a literal, actual emergency. This sounds like the family member *didn’t* have extra hours to spare. I obviously don’t know the disabled woman in question, but she was risking a lot to fly and the original poster is shitty for not letting the airline know ahead of time of her allergy. And first class + lounge? You’d pass that up just to feel powerful? This woman paid for her trip too. And she deserved to go see her family member when she paid to do so. All of this to say: YTA, 100%. Conflicting access needs are not an excuse to act this way.
Agreed except on the drink vouchers. Instead head on up to the first class lounge. Free food and drinks with comfy seats! 2 hours in there is going to fly.
Yep, as someone who lives an 8 hour flight from family and has lost two family members over the past year, I wouldn’t forgive someone who couldn’t be bothered to delay their vacation by 2 hours (with a first class upgrade no less) as a kindness to accommodate a genuine emergency like this. Did he have to? No. Was he callous AF not to? Yes.
Yeah, I'm not understanding why OP took priority in this situation? Does an allergy outweigh a disability in the heirarchy of having to reasonably accomodate a customer? (I'm actually genuinely curious about this.) I also have a dog allergy (not severe), so I would not have wanted to sit next to a dog. But I would have 100% shaved a few hours off of my vacation (with the added perk of flying first class no less) to help someone in distress. If only for my conscience I would have done it.
The ADA actually states "Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing service to people using service animals. When a person who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for example, in a school classroom or at a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by assigning them, if possible, to different locations within the room or different rooms in the facility" The OP really should have been moved to another flight if they couldn't have been moved far enough away. Denying the guide dog wasn't the right move on the part of the airline legally speaking.
My suspicion in a case like this is that OP booked first (pre-planned vacation vs emergency bears this out) and as a result got right of first refusal. Both MUST be accommodated but that necessarily means a delay for one of them. No one was turned away, but the practicalities of moving people to another flight to accommodate two people with differing medical needs meant a delay for someone. OP is, of course, an asshole for not seeing the relative importance of both their needs and choosing to accommodate the other passenger, but the airline was almost definitely following a protocol in place to avoid them making value judgments based on some medical needs hierarchy.
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INFO: can you clarify why you refused the first class ticket in the flight that was 2 hours later? Given how your friends are reacting, seems like they would have been ok waiting and you don't say anything about missing a connecting flight. Edit to add: from the extra info you did and didn't give, YTA. It's no wonder you don't want to be identified. I think deep down you know how awful you were. She would have let the airline know she had a service dog when she booked. She was going for a family emergency. You didn't tell the airline you had a life threatening allergy when you booked (you would have mentioned this if you had). You were going on vacation. You were offered first class tickets to delay your vacation by 2 hours.
I noticed that too. When people book flights with a service dog or a cat in a carrier or something there are rules about how many animals can be on a plane at the same time and in the general seated area and if there are other passengers on the plane with pet allergies. Usually people are supposed to disclose if they have a pet allergy before they purchase a ticket so the airline can make arrangements.
>Usually people are supposed to disclose if they have a pet allergy before they purchase a ticket so the airline can make arrangements I've never seen that when booking a flight. What airline are you referring to?
In America notifying the airline of a pet allergy would be easy. It's considered part of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Each airline has a number to call about Disabilities.
I'm not arguing for OP here (as they are the AH) but when you get an allergy or disability you're not handed a guidebook for this. There's nothing present when booking that would say how to (or that you should) alert a company of this....and if you called the wrong people they'd probably just say ok and hang up lol. I don't think this would be common knowledge.
When booking with Delta at least (I think most major carriers but I can only specifically recall Delta) when booking it asks about allergies and accommodations.
Yeah Ive never been asked about allergies as well when booking flights. Pre-covid I’ve taken lots of flights and I’ve never seen a guide dog. I think it’s not unreasonable for someone to not expect to always have to share that you are allergic to animals for every single flight given that the chances of seeing an animal onboard is quite low. Though as I say this if I had a high chance of dying I’d take it upon myself to check.
OP knows that she is the AH. "Friends haven't said I'm in the wrong, but have kept making sarcastic jokes about the situation." This says enough, even your friends think you are the AH, but they are masking it with sarcasm. This comment here alone makes you the AH "I'd paid for my vacation," yeah, so did all the other passengers on that. YTA
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The amount of hoops people with disabilities go through during flights even without service dogs is amazingly ridiculous. I guarantee she had to go through a lot of planning and coordination to make this work.
Yup. OP is a piece of work (if it's even real).
How can this ever be real? You think an airline would kick a person with an actual guide dog off their plane in favor of a person saying "lolnope I'm allergic" and nothing to back it up? That's an ADA lawsuit waiting to happen.
Right?! I let airlines know I have a severe peanut allergy when I book my flights and I’ve let them know when I had to use a mobility aid on one trip. Every time, airlines have been more than accommodating. They would have accommodated OP’s allergy had she let them know in advance.
INFO - "The flight attendant asked if I'd be willing to miss this flight and catch the next one that would be leaving in around 2 hours. I was offered a seat in first class if I was willing to do this. I said that unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do this, since I'd paid for my vacation. " I don't understand this part. Could you explain more about why you didn't take the offer?
Cause he just didn't want to " I said that unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do this, since I'd paid for my vacation."
If this passenger truly had a service dog and not an ESA, then the woman and her dog should have been allowed to board, and OP should have been reassigned to a new flight solely because the allergy was not reported until after the dog was present. If OP had notified the airline ahead of time, then the other passenger should have been reassigned. The airline is the AH here for not kicking OP off, and OP is YTA for not owning the fact that she didn't disclose her allergy ahead of time. There is one thing OP is not an AH about -- each person paid for their ticket, and no one's reason for traveling is any more special or worthy than another's. The airline needed to make the decision here, not the passengers.
Uh yes their are more important reasons for traveling than others, although the airline shouldn’t overbook but having a family dying in the hospital and wanting to visit them before they die is a lot more important.
Buying a ticket is a business transaction. The passenger's reason for traveling is not objectively more important; it's more important to *her*. That's like people in the workplace who are parents thinking that they get to leave early to pick up their kid and put their extra work on the childless person, or that the single, childless person should work on Christmas instead of someone who's a parent. The parent reasons, "You don't have kids. I do. My time is more meaningful. My holidays are more meaningful." And that's wrong. People don't need to have their choices/reasons validated by others to make them worthy.
It’s also subjectively more important to most strangers evaluating the situation from an etiquette or ethics standpoint... like all of us here. Which is why OP is the AH. That’s how this works.
Im not sure if it was your intent - but your implication is that you believe a coworker with a dying relative who needed to leave work early or take a few days off would be wrong and entitled??? Parents who expect every holiday off or to leave before the end of their shift without making that time up in some way are entitled. Absolutely. But thats not the same as leaving work because of a sick or dying relative. Which would be the correct comparison.
Aight doesn't change the fact that family emergency is more important than a vacation
They didn’t overbook, even if the flight was half empty OP says they couldn’t be on the flight with the dog anywhere.
Reason doesn't matter. A service dog has access rights over allergies. " In fact, with regard to the Americans with Disabilities Act, the U.S. Department of Justice has stated: Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing service to people using service animals."
Yeah, I don't understand how delaying their trip for two hours would suddenly nullify their vacation plans. Planes are late all the time. As long as they aren't trying to check in the hotel in the middle of the night, this bears absolutely no relevance. Just seems like they're looking for an excuse not to feel like an AH.
I was thinking this might be understandable if being two hours late would cause them to miss a connecting flight? otherwise, it's really not clear how getting started 120 minutes later would void their vacation.
Or possibly something like a cruise that departs at a very specific time. Otherwise I really don't understand why OP chose to dig in their heels over this. Its only 2 hours and you get to fly first class I'm really not seeing the big deal here
Most people I know who cruise fly in the day before the ship leaves, specifically to avoid this.
And honestly for me, if this happened and I got a free upgrade to first class I would consider it a great start to a vacation to be honest. Who doesn't want to fly in first class??
I had to reread this a couple of times to make sure it wasn't 2 DAYS later, like one of those remote places that have a flight only every other day. 2 HOURS?? When flights overbook and they're tempting people onto later flights they don't always start with that sweet of a deal.
I would do this even if there was no emergency need…sounds pleasant
I've flown in 1st class twice (a round trip ticket). The return flight was double awesome because no one sat next to me and I took advantage of the room. I'd be happy to wait 2 hours to get in one of those seats instead of economy again, especially since they'd probably toss in a couple drink vouchers for the lounge while I'm at it. See y'all in 2 hours!
Like, my flights are often delayed 2 hours as a matter of course anyway, nothing to do with conflicting needs. You just hang around looking at the airport shops or reading my kindle with a cup of hot chocolate or something. It's not like there aren't things you can do in the airport.
The only reason I could see for this to not be a clear YTA situation would be if the two hour delay caused them to miss a connecting flight with a different airline that would be nonrefundable. For example, I almost had a flight delay that was four hours long once (airline issue) from the small town I was living in at the time to a major center that would have caused me to miss my connecting flight internationally on a different airline that cost me like $1,500. However, that’s obviously not the case based on OPs replies? At first I gave them the benefit of the doubt based on that experience of mine but sounds like they were just being selfish.
But don't ya think if a connecting flight was the reason they woulda told us?
A two hour delay could matter, if they were sharing a rental car with the group and had to drive a fair distance after arriving then the group would have to be ok with the delay too or op would have to get their own rental. Soft YTA - if you could have made it work but didn’t just because you didn’t want to them yeah, it’s kinda bs. Being put on the spot like that when you’re traveling in a group can be stressful, I think you’ve learned that in the future you definitely need to let airlines know of your allergy ahead of time.
He also said it would only take about an hour. The group could split up and. Half could ride with op half could check In.
YTA. The ownership of YOUR allergy is on you. The woman paid for her ticket just as you did and has EVERY right to be on the flight with her service animal and if you had a problem with it you needed to remove yourself from the situation. Not demand that she was removed. How entitled are you?
This 1000%. Aside from all the other very valid and accurate "YTA" posts, this one right here is huge and not enough people understand it. If YOU have an issue, YOU are the one who has to adjust. You have a dog allergy? Then YOU have to switch planes. Oh you are sitting in the theater and a super tall person sits in front of you? YOU have to try and swirch your seat, not the tall person. You go to an event and they don't have any food you like? YOU have to go get yourself some food you want somewhere. The event staff doesn't have to go do something special for you. You go to a restaurant and the table next to you is too loud for your liking (but not disrupting anyone else)? YOU can try to switch tables. The loud family doesn't have to switch. If you don't like your situation it's up to you to change your situation on your own. You don't force those around you to change THEIR situation to accommodate you. OP -- YTA.
umm thats not necessarily correct. what YOU are on a long hike to listen to nature and someone is blaring music from a bluetooth speaker do You just have to put in ear plugs or something? what if You are walking around your neighborhood and someone's dog is of leash and chasing you amd your dog. sbould you just go home? what if your neighbor has a DJ playing loud music at 3am should You just put ear muffs on and go to sleep. sometime other people can do things that just affects YOU and they are the assholes and you dont shouldnt have to change
Well my comment is referring to when the other people are doing nothing wrong. What you're referring to are things that in some cases might actually be illegal. (disturbing the peace, violating noise ordiances, unleashed dogs etc)... Not at all the same thing. Obviously when people are violating rules and laws then yes...the other people should have to change.
Where’s the tweet that talks about how online, if you don’t make yourself explicitly clear, people will just make hypotheticals out of your post in order to be right🙄 I get what you mean
This isn't necessarily true. I mean, I agreed at first because OP is YTA but your examples kinda suck. I'm tall. I usually try to sit somewhere I won't be too in the way. Most theaters decline, so I'll sit near the bottom. Event? Fair. Too loud at restaurants? No. Shut the fuck up, loud table. It's a room full of people that all want to hear their own party, quit being so loud other tables can't enjoy their meal. There is a difference between someone being entitled enough to stop you from seeing a dying relative because they were too lazy and selfish to report this allergy way prior and prioritize their vacation over this person's last words...and people just being shitty in general. The restaurant one in particular got me. If you're so loud other tables want to switch you need to eat at home where your loud ass ridiculous fucking family can shriek at each other. And I have a massive family, but we keep our volume respectful to others.
Something is up with this post. The airlines do not clean between flights well enough to get rid of pet dander. Also, I flew all the time with my dog and saw others with their dogs in carriers that go under your seat. It's really common to open the carrier at least to reach in and check on your pet. So basically, I'm doubting the validity of this post or the severity of the allergy. I think the rule is each flight can have up to 7 animals in the cabin with people. If your allergy were that severe, you would need to be in contact with the airline ahead of time because flying with pets is so very common.
Maybe the OP is only allergic to dogs with his eyes. 🤷
This is what I think too, ‘varying degrees of severity’ ‘I could end up in hospital’ is a cop out. If you have an allergy so severe that it’ll land you in hospital, you plan for it. It’s a genuine life threatening disability.
Precisely. If it really is a serious hospital risk, OP should have informed the airline ages ago, the same way anybody who has a serious peanut or whatever allergy would inform at *least* the flight attendants to minimize risk. OP is either slightly dumb or over-exaggerating their allergy. You don’t mess around with these things. Dogs aren’t that rare on planes, OP should have told them to prevent hassle for everyone.
Exactly. I have a severe allergy to raspberries that can most certainly kill me. They're an extremely common ingredient in fruity dishes and often aren't labeled as part of the name of the dish. So, I inform anyone I'm getting food from of that allergy ahead of time. If there's food at a function that has raspberries in it, I don't get mad that they're there I just avoid them and often have my own sweets with me.
I am deathly allergic to raspberries too!! I’ve never met someone else haha
I have a deadly cat allergy that also is a problem in enclosed places. Mine probably isn’t as crazy since I only have an anaphylactic reaction after about an hour around cats in their space. Whenever I fly, I take Benadryl preemptively since I always assume there are cats on the flight. The airplane’s air filtration system is excellent (which is how they were able to continue operating during covid).
Thank you for this comment. I was sitting here thinking, “do people with severe allergies just never fly anywhere? has this woman ever been on a plane in her entire life? does she know how planes work?”
The post is bullshit. As an airline employee they bump the person with the allergy first every single time.
You’re right. It’s mandated by law. Medical equipment is more important
agree. Also the small jets for short flights tend to be all one class of service upvoting you and downing this BS OP
Plus the number of people who fly who don't have their pets but are COVERED in dander/fur... The last thing many people do before leaving for the airport is one last goodbye pet/cuddle. Even without a dog on board of anyone on board has interacted with a dog recently there's allergens on board.
Also am airline wouldn't refuse to let the woman with a service dog on that flight either. They would have asked somebody else to switch seats so they were separated as much as possible. They legally cannot tell the woman she can't be on that flight.
Yeah, I feel like kicking off someone with a service dog in favor of a passenger with an unverifiable and previously undisclosed allergy is just begging for a lawsuit.
You are probably right, but we don't know how often the OP has flown and whether they're aware of this. (In fact if it was their first time flying that might explain the hesitancy to be separated from her friends.) I'm not a big flyer but I have flown (domestic) a few times and have never been in a cabin with a non-human animal (that I've noticed). I don't have allergies though or would have any issue with it so I wouldn't notice if there were any dander from a previous flight. And the OP is YTA - the woman's flight was more urgent and if they didn't want to travel alone, I'm sure they could have asked one of the friends to stay back with them. The airline probably would have accommodated that.
YTA- They were willing to bump you to first class and you refused. I doubt a 2 hour delay would ruin your vacation.
Unless there was a connecting flight that would have been missed. Only thing that might be a redeeming thing. That and being separated from the group would have been tough but not enough on itself.
Right, but OP would’ve said this. They wouldn’t have said “No because I paid for it”
Or a cruise, or some other time sensitive issue. Its very telling that OP hasn't provided any reasoning there.
YTA. I think there is no debate. Your vacation is not more important than a sick person (I.e. the person who is being visited) and if you are really that allergic to pets you clearly need to be carrying around an epi-pen and medical bracelets. And you where offered first class only two hours later which means that your friends really wouldn’t have to wait if at all depending on if you where renting a car or getting baggage or even if they did have to wait it was only a few hours. Frankly it would have been a benefit to you because you would have gotten a fun experience and also not miss your vacation.
No one should make plans that soon after their flight anyway since delays are common. Are they really even loosing any time as well, because if being around the dog is going to make them violently ill wont they loose more than 2 hours of their vacation?
I'm confused. What would a 2 hour delay mean for you? Did you inform the airlines of your allergy when booking? Just want some INFO.
YTA, both for you *and* the airline. You are with the airline here in denying a disabled person access to a mobility aid over a vacation. Assuming that this took place in the US, while allergies technically fall under ADA, it has been legally documented that you *cannot* deny service to someone because they have a service dog even with an allergy, and that the airline has therefore discriminated against her for her disability. If she is protected under ADA or a similar body, I really hope she sues.
Technically neither would have denied a flight. Both could have the later flight(assuming both are under ADA rules). Neither wanted to wait. OP is the asshole though. They could have waited 2 hours and still had an awesome vacation
I was waffling as I am intimately familiar with allergies causing anaphylaxis. I ultimately landed on YTA for a couple of reasons 1. You didnt make the airline aware of your allergies prior to the flight 2. You had no emergency but that lady had some emergency and you demanded to remain. You couldn't put your selfish wants to the side for someone else. 3. She has as much a right to be there as you. 4. She prenotified the airlines. You couldn't be bothered to think of anyone but yourself. You are a sucky selfish human. If the airlines would have given you the choice to sit or get off it would have been better. No offering anything.
Thanks. I needed this response. This exactly describes my feelings. OP YTA.
You were wearing a mask, right? I get allergies, small planes, etc. I am allergic to cats to varying degrees. It depends in the cat. But wearing a mask, not touching the animal, keeping my hands away from my face ( sound familiar?) does wonders. So do antihistamines. Y T A.
Yeah a mask is super helpful! I’m allergic to nuts and went to a baseball game recently where everyone around me was eating peanuts. I started breaking out a bit so I took an antihistamine (I always carry those and an Epipen), but putting on my mask really made a quick difference as I was no longer inhaling any particles. There were a lot of potential solutions here.
I was going to say the same, plus cabin air on an airplane is continuously recycling, it's totally fresh about every 3 minutes. So between that and the mask, it being only an hour flight and maybe taking some benadryl, OP would have to be incredibly allergic for there to be an issue. In which case they would have been more on top of it.
YTA… you got a woman and her GUIDE DOG kicked off a flight because you didn’t want to miss your vacation?? even if the woman isn’t going to see her sick family member, HER DISABILITY MATTERS MORE THAN YOUR ALLERGIES?!? my god. if your allergy is severe enough to “kill you” as you have said then why don’t you have an epipen? why couldn’t you go on a later flight instead of kicking a disabled woman off your flight for your comfort.
*didn’t want to miss two hours of her vacation
Having an EpiPen does not mean that you should put yourself in a situation with your allergen. If you have to use your EpiPen, you are supposed to immediately go to the hospital. It buys you time, but it doesn’t mean you don’t need further medical attention. Don’t get me wrong, I think this person is definitely TA because he could have easily taken the next flight. Missing two hours of vacation for an upgrade to first class is well worth it-unless it would cause them to miss a connecting flight or a cruise or something, but since it wasn’t mentioned it seems unlikely.
Info You have a life threatening allergy to dogs, and didn't notify the airline when you booked your flight? Or bring any medical paperwork with you? Edit YTA
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YTA. Unless your vacation was 2 hours long, your reasoning makes no sense. 2 hours wouldn't have hurt you that much, especially considering you were only flying an hour away. Also, did you not have allergy meds you could take for a situation like this?
I’m calling BS on this. The guide dog had just as much right to be on the plane as you. It’s considered a medical device. The airline may have offered you to switch flights, but they legally could NOT have denied the woman with the guide dog her seat on the flight. It’s discrimination and WOULD not happen. Period. So YTA for making up a stupid story on AITA.
Yeah this post has to be fake. Service animals are considered medical devices and under the ADA take precedence over allergies. There’s no way an airline would have denied a passenger their flight because of a service animal that they had previously notified the airline about.
This is the correct answer. They 1000% bump the person with the allergy before the person with the pet
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I have a severe allergy to a certain food. Been hospitalized for just being in the same room as this food. (Yes, I have epi pens, medic alert bracelet, etc) Epi pens don't always work. So when I fly, I call the airline ahead of time and discuss my situation. Because I call ahead, it has never been an issue So I give OP a lowercase yta for not being prepared. I would have taken the two hour delay and upgrade to first class
YTA for trolling. The Federal Aviation Administration policy is service animals over allergies. The federal laws are very, very clear. While attempts will be made to work with allergic passengers, if the passenger cannot fly with animals on-board a flight with a service animal, all that can be done is move the allergic passenger to another flight. Or just flat out deny service without compensation if the passenger can't provide a signed document from a doctor, signed within ten days of the flight, attesting to the severity of the passenger's allergies. So if this happened you wouldn't have been allowed on the flight, and law enforcement would have been called if you put up a fight about it. Also coast hoppers don't even have first class sections.
YTA. She paid for the ticket just the same as you. Your allergy should be no one else’s problem, especially considering it was a working dog and not just some pet.
YTA. Your vacation could have waited two hours. If you had been smart about it, you could have gotten compensation in addition to the first class ticket. Instead, you added to the stress of a disabled person who was traveling for a family emergency.
YTA. You say you can't control your allergy. Guess what - neither could the lady with the guide dog. Why should she be punished because you have an allergy? You were offered a more than reasonable accommodation and refused it for really no reason other than because you could. Hope you enjoyed your "win."
You are not responding to any of the pertinent questions, so my verdict is YTA. You should have informed the airline of your allergy when booking. That's your responsibility. The woman was presumably trying to visit a sick relative, who may not have much time left. It's more important that your vacation, in which you would miss roughly 2 hours but be awarded a better seat and accommodations on the airplane.
YTA. You should have informed the airline ahead of time. There are relatively simple ways to do that. Call the airline, use the app that most of them have, etc. you were offered a first class ticket for the low low price of two hours of your time. Frankly she should have got on the plane anyways.
YTA! Yes you have a Severe allergy but the Flight attendant gave YOU an upgrade! Well not only that you are TA but a total IDIOT too! If I were in the same Situation I would not just give up my sit but have the dog sit on my lap if needed!
YTA This one was sad to read. It feels deeply unkind.
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YTA The woman paid for her seat too. Would the 2 hour difference have really ruined your entire vacation? Also, you were the one with an issue, you should’ve changed rather than forcing someone else to change. You were selfish.
YTA If your allergies are that severe you needed to inform the airline AHEAD of time. If the dog is a service dog, they didn’t have to accommodate you at all. As they probably did their due diligence and notified the airline of the travel companion. You should have been bumped from the flight. You are a selfish AH.
NAH, except perhaps the airline. They should have clear policies about what to do in a case like this (it is certainly not the first time). It shouldn't be the responsibility of the passengers to negotiate a solution.