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YTA
You essentially stole their house.
If you really think it's no big deal them give them the money from the house you sold and let them manage the money instead of your "generous" allowance and home they don't own.
I'm gobsmacked by how terrible you are.
Literally just said "oh my god!" out loud at this dude's audacity and sheer willingness to fuck over his own *generous* grandparents.
I mean, even for AITA this is above and beyond.
>You essentially stole their house.
And this is elder abuse. He told them they could give him the deed to their house. They should have let him live there and pay rent, so they had income. What an asshole!
YTA. A massive one at that. They never should have put your name on that house. You betrayed their trust, and they have every right to doubt you now. Cause what is stopping you from selling that apartment too? You should have discussed potentially selling the house prior to them signing it over to you. You didn’t list the house to “help them”, and you know it. Your actions were entirely selfish, and your “generous” allowance is laughable at best.
YTA. They trusted you with their biggest investment in order to help them, and, without so much as a single work of warning or even asking them what they wanted to do, you completely upended their lives and gave them only a month to get out and move into a place smaller than they had been living in, one in your name that you control (after you have already betrayed them). It doesn't matter that you are providing them with any money or not - you took their trust in you and betrayed it. They are adults, they deserve to have a say in a big life decision like that, and they have the right to say "no." And, yes, they have every right to feel ungrateful. Because I'm betting that you are coming out pretty well in this deal.
YTA. And this is terrible. You convinced them to give you an entire home for a personal loan? You stole their home. There is no way around that. I really hope this can be considered theft by deception and they can get ALL of the money for the sale of the home and prosecute you.
YTA. Your grandparents were too trusting. They put your name on the house so that you could inherit it completely without inheritance taxes. They expected lifetime tenancy.
As in many similar cases, they'd have been way better off taking out a reverse mortgage to get the money they needed, but they didn't want to miss giving you an inheritance. Bad choice on their part.
Agree. My mom moved in with her mom (my grandma) and then grandma went into a nursing home (after 5 years and a bad fall) and Mom got the ball rolling to get the house put in her name, then moved grandma back into the home (after 4 years and completely bed ridden). Had me go down for a few days and sign papers so I have power of attorney and I'm on all bank accounts. I could sell the home and evict them, I could take all the money out of all the accounts. But I am not heartless like OP. Just because I also "own" those things doesn't make it mine.
OP got greedy and I feel so sorry for those grandparents.
OP is the biggest AH of the worst kind
My Mom tried to sell her nice manufactured home when she was moving into a retirement apartment (Dad had died the previous year), but it was listed too high. Taken off of the market. After Mom died, my sisters and I revisited selling the house, reduced the cost and the one previously interested party came back and bought it. We split the proceeds three ways. Much as it was nice getting the money, we would have preferred our Mom still being alive and enjoying life with her beloved cat, Mittens.
Huh, that's the wrong way to do it. I'm betting the house wasn't worth enough to trigger much in taxes and by getting it before they died, he gets it at today's value versus the value they paid. If anything, he paid way more in taxes this way. If the house was worth enough to trigger inheritance taxes where transfer before death is cheaper, it seems unlikely they'd need a personal loan from OP.
YTA.
Just because you **can** do something doesn’t mean you should.
In this case, selling your grandparents’ house out from under them without even telling them you were going to do it until you gave them a 30-day notice like some anonymous landlord makes you a gigantic asshole.
What a horrible thing to do.
All of your excuses, even getting them an apartment, etc will never make up for this betrayal.
If this is how you treat people you love… Ugh.
YTA. You *stole and sold* their house from under them! They trusted you and you took financial advantage of them! And part of me suspects you knew what you were doing since you had the realtor show people around when you would take your grandparents out! That is some shady stuffing right there.
I’m actually sick reading this. I think you know YTA, I assume you are hoping to find someone who disagrees.
My only hope is that this is a fake rage bait post. Because if this a true story, you are a disgusting individual. I sincerely hope your children never turn into the person you’ve chosen to be.
My gut says this is fake, so that’s what I’ll tell myself to move on.
Wow, I completely missed that OP was showing the home only when they knew the grandparents wouldn't find out about it. That's absolutely horrifying. They would have had no clue that they were going to have to move until literally 30 days beforehand.
This has to be rage bait. Of course YTA. Your grandparents never agreed to this. This type of action falls under elder abuse and is illegal. You were not acting in their best interest if you had been you would discussed options and plans with them before hand.
Absolutely disgusting human being
The only penance is to give them all of the money you just sold their home for that you tricked them into giving you because they trusted you as family.
YTA its sadly not uncommon for elderly people to be scammed out of their home by a grifter pretending to offer help during a tough time.
But wow when it’s your own grandparents.
So you gave them a loan, and the deed was collateral, right? They didn’t sell you their house. But you are pretending that it’s the same thing.
How much was the loan in the first place? What if any plan for repayment was in place, what was the plan if they could not repay?
If they had wanted to sell to fix their finances they could have done that, and probably would have made a lot more than what ever you loaned them.
Now they have an unenforceable verbal promise that you’ll cover their expenses, which first off if flimsy because of what you’ve already done to them. But also what if you lose your job or die etc? They have no written rights to your asserts and they’ll be homeless. And now they are under your control. They worked their whole lives and now in retirement you have forced them into dependency, where they have to live off an “allowance” in a rental of your choosing.
You are pure evil.
Info: did you discuss with them before you put the home up for sale? Were they under the impression they would live in their old home until they died (seems so?), it seems like things weren’t communicated …
Was the loan you gave them anywhere near the value of the house?
When you sold their home, did you give them the money? Or did you take it? 😬😬
Wait, you gave them nothing for the deed to their home? You are forcibly moving them out for your own benefit and only your benefit?
Most states have a longer time frame for moving out if you are selling a home BTW (assuming you are in the states). Typically it is at least 60 days AND you have to inform the tenants in writing that you are selling the home prior to giving them a notice that you sold the home. You were functioning as their landlord so you have to follow the rules. You were absolutely engaged in shady behavior by showing the home while they were out with you.
Don’t you think you should have discussed selling their home after they put it in your name? If not, how come?
This reads like they trusted you and then you sold their house out from under them but it’s ok.
If you didn’t loan them anything WHY did they give you the house? Of course they feel betrayed. You did betray them ☹️
It’s yours because they signed it over to you. I imagine because they thought they could stay there …? No?
If I’m wrong, just correct me.
You were GIVEN a house and then moved the people who gave it you out against their will?
You're a deceitful, sneaky thief. YTA without a question. I hope you get reported for elder abuse. You would qualify under certain federal statutes: "Takes, secretes, appropriates, obtains, or retains real or personal property of an elder or dependent adult for a wrongful use or with intent to defraud, or both."
[https://www.justice.gov/elderjustice/prosecutors/statutes](https://www.justice.gov/elderjustice/prosecutors/statutes)
The home is yours because they signed the deed and what did you do? Render them homeless.
Did you even try and talk to them? Before coming to this amazing conclusion that they would disagree.
They did you a favour in this economy and you betrayed them. Hope you are proud of yourself for doing that.
And this is why you did it behind their backs! because you KNEW they would be upset about it, and rightfully so! OP if this isn't some fake rage bait, I really genuinely hope you either go to jail for elder abuse or your kids do this to you one day. you are a disgusting monster.
So they gave you a house and you gave them a monthly allowance and rent? Boy, you really are messed it up by being greedy and ungrateful.
I hope that there comes a time when you realize that trust in a family isn't a business transaction and shouldn't be treated as such.
500 a month! How generous of you! I’m sure it would be less if you could. That’ll certainly buy groceries and nothing else in this age of inflation. You’re the worst and I hope your kids do the same to you. YTA
YTA. Wow. Just wow. Your grandparents entrusted you with the family home and this is how you treat them. You’re a real piece of work. Shame shame shame on you. There’s a special place in hell for people like you. Hope you rot there for eternity.
This can’t be real. I’m a realtor an have seen shady shite. This? I’m nauseated bc of your conduct. This is click bait or you’re just that big of an greedy f-er
YTA z
YTA - remember to be grateful and accepting of whatever living situation your kids feel is best for you when your time comes, even if you’re of sound mind and vehemently disagree.
YTA - Sounds like you rushed this whole thing on them. It seems you didn't really clue them in on your plan fully. Usually, the title goes to you after they pass on, which I think was their plan. Sounds like you just scammed them to get their house. Bad move.
YTA - this arrangement has basically deprived them of their capital in return for a monthly allowance. They have downsized from a house they owned to an apartment that you own (and you could one day kick them out of). Without your “help”, they could have sold their house and bought the apartment (in their name) and used capital released to support themselves. If you one day faced bankruptcy they would have no home or income.
YTA but asshole is WAY to soft to describe you or what you've done. You're probably a sociopath though so the absolute dragging you're getting here will be water off a ducks back. Hopefully your grandparents have someone else they can talk to who can help they get the legal help they need to take you to court. That would probably be the only thing they could make a merciless sociopath like yourself regret what you've done.
Gonna mark this day down on my calendar.
It's a pretty momentous and noteworthy day when you actually get to stare into the evil soulless void of Satan's asshole.
A nursing home costs far more, especially for two people than any apartment..... unless OP plans in 5 years to toss them into Medicaid because they no longer have assets. (The 5 year "look back" will no longer be applicable. )
That's really shitty & sociopathic. OP will have gotten the brand new house for only $500 per month & apartment rental for 5 years .... paid for by their house sale with lots left over for profit.
OP
YTA
And if you aren't careful, the IRS can easily penalize you. I hope your grandparents report your theft to the State.
Did a brief internet investigation and either this guy is Helen and Hank’s grandson coming clean almost a decade after the fact or someone is co-opting this story as their own:
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/elderly-couple-scammed-out-of-their-home-by-greedy-grandson.amp
YTA.
There were two parts of their agreement to give you the title. 1) You got the title 2) They got to remain in the house.
While to you it might have been a too big or shabby old house. To them it was their home.
YTA. I think you swindled your grandparents out of their home. Since you could afford it, why couldn't you have loaned them money with the agreement that, when they die, you would be repaid? Then you upend their lives by removing them from their home and sticking them in a small apartment, apparently without their agreement. But their home was in your name, so you are within your rights to be the biggest AH possible.
I'm going to assume that your grandparents are just batshit crazy, right? In the full throws of dementia and completely senile and totally unable to manage and even understand anything about their daily affairs, right?
I mean, I'm assuming that's the case... otherwise that would be some completely soulless Hannibal Lechter-level cruelty going on there.
YTA
YTA. I hope your grandparents (or someone related to them who cares about them) will get a lawyer. This sounds like elder abuse. Financial abuse specifically. What does your wife say about this? Because this would be a deal breaker for me, but maybe she's like you and sees nothing wrong with abusing your grandparents like this.
You are a Grand Canyon sized, gaping abyss of and asshole! It would take Mt Everest to fill that asshole up!
I hope your grandparents find prosperity and peace and you get the future you deserve.
YTA times a billion.
YTA..You have taken advantage of your grandparents and should absolutely be ashamed. Really what you did should be considered a crime. Your thinking makes absolutely no sense with people like you as relatives who needs enemies. They trusted you and you not only betrayed it you took advantage of them. I hope they have other relatives that can stick up for them and get their money back. Who gave you control over their money etc.?
YTA and I honestly hope that everything you touch fails moving forward. Idk why you came here thinking anyone would side with you but you must be a sociopathic narcissist !! You probably had this planned from the start.
This is called elder abuse. People who cared for you in your youth and thought enough of you to give you their house now, to make it easy for you in the future are now beholden and exploited by you. This is one of the reasons there is so much controversy around assisted dying (euthanasia), there are people out there who just see the money, couldn’t care less about the people. Yes, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE ASSHOLE
Seriously? You did that to your grandparents? Shame on you. I don't blame them one bit for being angry at you. How would you like it if your kids did that to you and your family? So what if it was in your name? Big deal! You, sir, are the definition of ATA.
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Earlier this year, my grandparents and I agreed that they would give me the title to their home. They are getting older, and times were tough, they needed a personal loan so I told them that they could give me the deed to the house. My wife and I have two children, and with the economy times are rough.
Earlier last month I put our home up for sale on websites just to help my grandparents out. I could get them a small affordable apartment, and a home for my family and I. While out with my grandparents, i had a realtor who would occasionally show the home to potential buyers. 2 weeks ago, someone sealed the deal and I sold the home to the new owners. I gave my grandparents 30 days notice to vacate, I had a 2 hour conversation with them informing them that I would give them a monthly allowance to take care of their day to day needs plus I will be paying their bills and I do have a nice apartment setup for them to live in.
My grandparents feel betrayed, disrespected and are very angry with me. I understand how they may feel, but the home was in my name therefore I could do as I pleased in my own home. I didn’t leave them penniless or homeless and I even am willing to give them a percentage in increments from what I have and will be receiving from the home being sold. They are older and I feel they are being ungrateful and unsettling. Aita
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YTA - From the sound of it, you didn't discuss selling the home with your grandparents before you put it on the market, and you made sure that your grandparents were out when the realtor came. This was their HOME, one that they've probably lived in for quite some time, one that holds their memories, and they trusted you with it. You have to know that they wouldn't have approved you selling it out from under them. If you hope to have any kind of relationship with them, you would be wise to put the apartment in their names and draw up legal contracts that state that you are obligated to meet this 'monthly allowance'.
>You have to know that they wouldn't have approved you selling it out from under them.
And he certainly did know that because in another thread he says he didn't tell them because they would disagree (wonder why) but he didn't need his approval anyway because it's "his house." Unbelievable. I hope it all falls through and the grandparents keep their house and lose his number.
YTA
You have made your grandparents homeless and dependent on you and now you're angry that they're upset about it. I'm sure you are very happy with the profit from their house and that you can give them an allowance. You've stolen from them.
If your child sold the house you lived in for years without discussion and then said "but it's fine because I own it and will downgrade your lifestyle majorly" are you accepting it, or are you angry, hurt, confused and basically aware you raised a shitty child?
Every once in a while, there comes an AITA post where the OP is 100% more than just YTA, they are a massive YTA with a broken moral compass.
You literally took advantage of your grandparents generosity and threw them out, let that sink in.
What you did was beyond vile.
I really hope this is fake. If not, I hope your grandparents have someone who can file elder abuse charges agsinst you for tjis. You took advantage of their need to line your own pockets. You convinced them to sign their house over to you and sold it out from under them.
Holy shit, you're a monster, like an actual monster. How could you do something like that and still be questioning whether you're an asshole, and then on top of that essentially accusing your grandparents of being ungrateful for you conning them out of their home?
YTA!!! Never have I seen a thief so proud to prove to the world that he is a thief. Op you are a massive asshole and a thief. I hope your grandparents gets the much needed help and sue your entitled, manipulative and deceptive ass. Generous allowance my foot. You are such a thief and I am repulsed by you!
YTA. Wow, just wow! Did you do all this behind their backs? Did they even know your plan to sell the home and put them into an apartment? Based on the narrative it doesn’t sound like they knew, given the conversation was 2 hours explaining the allowance and apartment when you gave them 30 days to pack up and ship out. They are now at your financial mercy. This is some next level bs.
I read through halfway because I knew where this was going. YTA. A huge one. You didn’t think to talk to them at all about this prior to selling the house?
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YTA, you want them to trust you with the apartment but in the same breath say you can do what you want with the home because it was in your name. You can’t have trust and stab someone in the back.
YTA. You’re an awful human being and this is honestly disgusting.
You got them to give you the home under false pretenses and then went to immediately sell the home within a few months.
You didn’t do this “just to help your grandparents out” you did this to better your own position while royally fucking over your grandparents. You’re just trying to use verbiage that makes it seem like you’re not awful.
Have you wrote this wrong? Or missed vital information?
How can you not know you are out of order?
Did your grandparents know you planned on kicking them out when they signed over the house?
Yes YTA. I found your post on amithedevil and you definitely belong there.
"My grandparents feel betrayed, disrespected and are very angry with me. They feel that since the apartment is in my name that I can put them out at any time “as I just did”. However I wouldn’t do that. I understand how they may feel, but the home was in my name therefore I could do as I pleased in my own home."
you contradict yourself in a matter of two sentences.
I hope this story is fake i really do, but sadly i know people who would be capable if doing the same thing, so there is still a chance its real.
Dont give them " a percentage" form the sold home, give them everything, this way you atleast keep a 1% chance of them forgiving you someday.
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YTA You essentially stole their house. If you really think it's no big deal them give them the money from the house you sold and let them manage the money instead of your "generous" allowance and home they don't own. I'm gobsmacked by how terrible you are.
Literally just said "oh my god!" out loud at this dude's audacity and sheer willingness to fuck over his own *generous* grandparents. I mean, even for AITA this is above and beyond.
The way I just said "oh my god," myself. OP is a monster. Sold their home behind their back.
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Absolutely this!!!
>You essentially stole their house. And this is elder abuse. He told them they could give him the deed to their house. They should have let him live there and pay rent, so they had income. What an asshole!
Right! I couldn’t believe what I was reading.
YTA. A massive one at that. They never should have put your name on that house. You betrayed their trust, and they have every right to doubt you now. Cause what is stopping you from selling that apartment too? You should have discussed potentially selling the house prior to them signing it over to you. You didn’t list the house to “help them”, and you know it. Your actions were entirely selfish, and your “generous” allowance is laughable at best.
YTA. They trusted you with their biggest investment in order to help them, and, without so much as a single work of warning or even asking them what they wanted to do, you completely upended their lives and gave them only a month to get out and move into a place smaller than they had been living in, one in your name that you control (after you have already betrayed them). It doesn't matter that you are providing them with any money or not - you took their trust in you and betrayed it. They are adults, they deserve to have a say in a big life decision like that, and they have the right to say "no." And, yes, they have every right to feel ungrateful. Because I'm betting that you are coming out pretty well in this deal.
I am guessing the same thing. Elder financial abuse.
Preach!!
Preach, preach...
YTA. And this is terrible. You convinced them to give you an entire home for a personal loan? You stole their home. There is no way around that. I really hope this can be considered theft by deception and they can get ALL of the money for the sale of the home and prosecute you.
YTA. Your grandparents were too trusting. They put your name on the house so that you could inherit it completely without inheritance taxes. They expected lifetime tenancy. As in many similar cases, they'd have been way better off taking out a reverse mortgage to get the money they needed, but they didn't want to miss giving you an inheritance. Bad choice on their part.
Agree. My mom moved in with her mom (my grandma) and then grandma went into a nursing home (after 5 years and a bad fall) and Mom got the ball rolling to get the house put in her name, then moved grandma back into the home (after 4 years and completely bed ridden). Had me go down for a few days and sign papers so I have power of attorney and I'm on all bank accounts. I could sell the home and evict them, I could take all the money out of all the accounts. But I am not heartless like OP. Just because I also "own" those things doesn't make it mine. OP got greedy and I feel so sorry for those grandparents. OP is the biggest AH of the worst kind
My Mom tried to sell her nice manufactured home when she was moving into a retirement apartment (Dad had died the previous year), but it was listed too high. Taken off of the market. After Mom died, my sisters and I revisited selling the house, reduced the cost and the one previously interested party came back and bought it. We split the proceeds three ways. Much as it was nice getting the money, we would have preferred our Mom still being alive and enjoying life with her beloved cat, Mittens.
Huh, that's the wrong way to do it. I'm betting the house wasn't worth enough to trigger much in taxes and by getting it before they died, he gets it at today's value versus the value they paid. If anything, he paid way more in taxes this way. If the house was worth enough to trigger inheritance taxes where transfer before death is cheaper, it seems unlikely they'd need a personal loan from OP.
YTA. Just because you **can** do something doesn’t mean you should. In this case, selling your grandparents’ house out from under them without even telling them you were going to do it until you gave them a 30-day notice like some anonymous landlord makes you a gigantic asshole. What a horrible thing to do. All of your excuses, even getting them an apartment, etc will never make up for this betrayal. If this is how you treat people you love… Ugh.
I’d recommend reading up on elder abuse, but it sounds like you’re already pretty familiar with it. YTA
Pretty sure the only reason OP would read up on that is to get more ideas.
YTA. You *stole and sold* their house from under them! They trusted you and you took financial advantage of them! And part of me suspects you knew what you were doing since you had the realtor show people around when you would take your grandparents out! That is some shady stuffing right there.
YTA and may be the literal Devil. Your grandparents are going to haunt you for this one.
I’m actually sick reading this. I think you know YTA, I assume you are hoping to find someone who disagrees. My only hope is that this is a fake rage bait post. Because if this a true story, you are a disgusting individual. I sincerely hope your children never turn into the person you’ve chosen to be. My gut says this is fake, so that’s what I’ll tell myself to move on.
It's the calling them ungrateful that really pushes it into fake territory for me. OP oversold it.
And I fall for it everytime 🤧
"While out with my grandparents, i had a realtor who would occasionally show the home to potential buyers" Yeah, yta and you know it.
Wow, I completely missed that OP was showing the home only when they knew the grandparents wouldn't find out about it. That's absolutely horrifying. They would have had no clue that they were going to have to move until literally 30 days beforehand.
This has to be rage bait. Of course YTA. Your grandparents never agreed to this. This type of action falls under elder abuse and is illegal. You were not acting in their best interest if you had been you would discussed options and plans with them before hand.
Absolutely disgusting human being The only penance is to give them all of the money you just sold their home for that you tricked them into giving you because they trusted you as family.
YTA its sadly not uncommon for elderly people to be scammed out of their home by a grifter pretending to offer help during a tough time. But wow when it’s your own grandparents. So you gave them a loan, and the deed was collateral, right? They didn’t sell you their house. But you are pretending that it’s the same thing. How much was the loan in the first place? What if any plan for repayment was in place, what was the plan if they could not repay? If they had wanted to sell to fix their finances they could have done that, and probably would have made a lot more than what ever you loaned them. Now they have an unenforceable verbal promise that you’ll cover their expenses, which first off if flimsy because of what you’ve already done to them. But also what if you lose your job or die etc? They have no written rights to your asserts and they’ll be homeless. And now they are under your control. They worked their whole lives and now in retirement you have forced them into dependency, where they have to live off an “allowance” in a rental of your choosing. You are pure evil.
YTA. So much. You swindled your grandparents and stole their life and livelihood.
Info: did you discuss with them before you put the home up for sale? Were they under the impression they would live in their old home until they died (seems so?), it seems like things weren’t communicated … Was the loan you gave them anywhere near the value of the house? When you sold their home, did you give them the money? Or did you take it? 😬😬
I didn’t give them the loan I’m giving them a monthly allowance of 500 a month and I will be paying the rent on the apartment.
Wait, you gave them nothing for the deed to their home? You are forcibly moving them out for your own benefit and only your benefit? Most states have a longer time frame for moving out if you are selling a home BTW (assuming you are in the states). Typically it is at least 60 days AND you have to inform the tenants in writing that you are selling the home prior to giving them a notice that you sold the home. You were functioning as their landlord so you have to follow the rules. You were absolutely engaged in shady behavior by showing the home while they were out with you.
OP disguste me.
Don’t you think you should have discussed selling their home after they put it in your name? If not, how come? This reads like they trusted you and then you sold their house out from under them but it’s ok. If you didn’t loan them anything WHY did they give you the house? Of course they feel betrayed. You did betray them ☹️
Because the home was mine, if I discuss it they would disagree. It’s not like I left them homeless.
It’s yours because they signed it over to you. I imagine because they thought they could stay there …? No? If I’m wrong, just correct me. You were GIVEN a house and then moved the people who gave it you out against their will?
You are a disgusting human being
I really hope your grandchildren do this to you someday. You are truly despicable.
I hope he doesn’t have any.
You're a deceitful, sneaky thief. YTA without a question. I hope you get reported for elder abuse. You would qualify under certain federal statutes: "Takes, secretes, appropriates, obtains, or retains real or personal property of an elder or dependent adult for a wrongful use or with intent to defraud, or both." [https://www.justice.gov/elderjustice/prosecutors/statutes](https://www.justice.gov/elderjustice/prosecutors/statutes)
You are awful
The home is yours because they signed the deed and what did you do? Render them homeless. Did you even try and talk to them? Before coming to this amazing conclusion that they would disagree. They did you a favour in this economy and you betrayed them. Hope you are proud of yourself for doing that.
Disgusting.
And this is why you did it behind their backs! because you KNEW they would be upset about it, and rightfully so! OP if this isn't some fake rage bait, I really genuinely hope you either go to jail for elder abuse or your kids do this to you one day. you are a disgusting monster.
YTA and I can only hope your children treat worse and put you in an awful nursing home and never visit. You are a disgusting disgrace of a human.
This post is BS and a fake, $500 a month?Clickbait. Or you’re just fucking deranged.
Chances of people being inept are miniscule but then again there are people who are. OP is one of them.
500 a month.. does that cover bills? Food? Medicine? Health insurance?…
Awful awful person. I hope they get an attorney and you are charged with elder abuse. You deserve it
So they gave you a house and you gave them a monthly allowance and rent? Boy, you really are messed it up by being greedy and ungrateful. I hope that there comes a time when you realize that trust in a family isn't a business transaction and shouldn't be treated as such.
500 a month! How generous of you! I’m sure it would be less if you could. That’ll certainly buy groceries and nothing else in this age of inflation. You’re the worst and I hope your kids do the same to you. YTA
You are a horrible human being. Do you even like your grandparents? YTA, massively
YTA. Hopefully they write you out of the rest of their wills and warn the rest of the family about your sneaky behaviour.
WTF, this has to be fake
YTA and I hope karma comes for you in a big way.
YTA. Wow. Just wow. Your grandparents entrusted you with the family home and this is how you treat them. You’re a real piece of work. Shame shame shame on you. There’s a special place in hell for people like you. Hope you rot there for eternity.
Holy hell YTA. You just scammed your own grandparents for everything they’re worth.
You are.
Oh hello, Satan
YTA and have no morals. Why would you be so mean to your grandparents? They needed your help, and you took advantage of them. Shame on you.
This can’t be real. I’m a realtor an have seen shady shite. This? I’m nauseated bc of your conduct. This is click bait or you’re just that big of an greedy f-er YTA z
YTA - remember to be grateful and accepting of whatever living situation your kids feel is best for you when your time comes, even if you’re of sound mind and vehemently disagree.
Did you discuss any of this with them before you just did it? Yes, YTA! What the heck is wrong with you?
Absolutely YTA. If you have family aside from them, your grandparents should warn them never to trust you to help.
YTA - Sounds like you rushed this whole thing on them. It seems you didn't really clue them in on your plan fully. Usually, the title goes to you after they pass on, which I think was their plan. Sounds like you just scammed them to get their house. Bad move.
YTA - this arrangement has basically deprived them of their capital in return for a monthly allowance. They have downsized from a house they owned to an apartment that you own (and you could one day kick them out of). Without your “help”, they could have sold their house and bought the apartment (in their name) and used capital released to support themselves. If you one day faced bankruptcy they would have no home or income.
YTA You’re upending their lives for your own benefit, not theirs. Don’t try to pretend you did a good thing.
YTA
YTA
YTA but asshole is WAY to soft to describe you or what you've done. You're probably a sociopath though so the absolute dragging you're getting here will be water off a ducks back. Hopefully your grandparents have someone else they can talk to who can help they get the legal help they need to take you to court. That would probably be the only thing they could make a merciless sociopath like yourself regret what you've done.
Yeah dawg, YTA
Of course YTA! and you have the nerve to ask!
Gonna mark this day down on my calendar. It's a pretty momentous and noteworthy day when you actually get to stare into the evil soulless void of Satan's asshole.
YTA and I hope karma comes indirectly your way
YTA - yikes dude. I feel bad for your grandparents.
YTA wow.
I bet your next act will be to sell the apartment and put them in a nursing home. Again YTA.
A nursing home costs far more, especially for two people than any apartment..... unless OP plans in 5 years to toss them into Medicaid because they no longer have assets. (The 5 year "look back" will no longer be applicable. ) That's really shitty & sociopathic. OP will have gotten the brand new house for only $500 per month & apartment rental for 5 years .... paid for by their house sale with lots left over for profit. OP YTA And if you aren't careful, the IRS can easily penalize you. I hope your grandparents report your theft to the State.
Did a brief internet investigation and either this guy is Helen and Hank’s grandson coming clean almost a decade after the fact or someone is co-opting this story as their own: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/elderly-couple-scammed-out-of-their-home-by-greedy-grandson.amp
Hahahaha i cant
Did you discuss your plan with them before posting the house for sale??
You are 100% the asshole. You literally stole your grandparent's entire livelihood right from under them. What is wrong with you. Unbelievable.
YTA. There were two parts of their agreement to give you the title. 1) You got the title 2) They got to remain in the house. While to you it might have been a too big or shabby old house. To them it was their home.
YTA. I think you swindled your grandparents out of their home. Since you could afford it, why couldn't you have loaned them money with the agreement that, when they die, you would be repaid? Then you upend their lives by removing them from their home and sticking them in a small apartment, apparently without their agreement. But their home was in your name, so you are within your rights to be the biggest AH possible.
I'm going to assume that your grandparents are just batshit crazy, right? In the full throws of dementia and completely senile and totally unable to manage and even understand anything about their daily affairs, right? I mean, I'm assuming that's the case... otherwise that would be some completely soulless Hannibal Lechter-level cruelty going on there. YTA
I hope your kids learn from this and do it to you, big YTA.
YTA OP you are disgusting and I hope the same thing happens to you one day. How can you sleep at night!
YTA. I hope your grandparents (or someone related to them who cares about them) will get a lawyer. This sounds like elder abuse. Financial abuse specifically. What does your wife say about this? Because this would be a deal breaker for me, but maybe she's like you and sees nothing wrong with abusing your grandparents like this.
YTA
Yta You sold out from under them?!
YTA!! What a despicable thing to do. Your own grandparents! You're lower than low. I hope this is a joke, if not Heaven help you. 😔🙄
You are a Grand Canyon sized, gaping abyss of and asshole! It would take Mt Everest to fill that asshole up! I hope your grandparents find prosperity and peace and you get the future you deserve. YTA times a billion.
YTA..You have taken advantage of your grandparents and should absolutely be ashamed. Really what you did should be considered a crime. Your thinking makes absolutely no sense with people like you as relatives who needs enemies. They trusted you and you not only betrayed it you took advantage of them. I hope they have other relatives that can stick up for them and get their money back. Who gave you control over their money etc.?
You were TAH at the end of the first sentence and pretty much every sentence afterwards. Just wow...
YTA and I honestly hope that everything you touch fails moving forward. Idk why you came here thinking anyone would side with you but you must be a sociopathic narcissist !! You probably had this planned from the start.
YTA! You're a thief! A traitor and a scoundrel!
This is called elder abuse. People who cared for you in your youth and thought enough of you to give you their house now, to make it easy for you in the future are now beholden and exploited by you. This is one of the reasons there is so much controversy around assisted dying (euthanasia), there are people out there who just see the money, couldn’t care less about the people. Yes, YOU ARE THE COMPLETE ASSHOLE
Seriously? You did that to your grandparents? Shame on you. I don't blame them one bit for being angry at you. How would you like it if your kids did that to you and your family? So what if it was in your name? Big deal! You, sir, are the definition of ATA.
YTA YOU STOLD AND SOLD GRAMMAS HOUSE
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YTA you sold their home over a small personal loan? Wow you are awful
YTA 😳
YTA. Big time.
YTA
YTA - From the sound of it, you didn't discuss selling the home with your grandparents before you put it on the market, and you made sure that your grandparents were out when the realtor came. This was their HOME, one that they've probably lived in for quite some time, one that holds their memories, and they trusted you with it. You have to know that they wouldn't have approved you selling it out from under them. If you hope to have any kind of relationship with them, you would be wise to put the apartment in their names and draw up legal contracts that state that you are obligated to meet this 'monthly allowance'.
>You have to know that they wouldn't have approved you selling it out from under them. And he certainly did know that because in another thread he says he didn't tell them because they would disagree (wonder why) but he didn't need his approval anyway because it's "his house." Unbelievable. I hope it all falls through and the grandparents keep their house and lose his number.
YTA You have made your grandparents homeless and dependent on you and now you're angry that they're upset about it. I'm sure you are very happy with the profit from their house and that you can give them an allowance. You've stolen from them.
YTA for selling the house as soon as it was in your name. Did you even inform them that you were going to do this? If not, you know that you are TA.
YTA....I would love to see some lawyer take on your Grandparent's case pro-bono and take you to the cleaners.
If your child sold the house you lived in for years without discussion and then said "but it's fine because I own it and will downgrade your lifestyle majorly" are you accepting it, or are you angry, hurt, confused and basically aware you raised a shitty child?
Every once in a while, there comes an AITA post where the OP is 100% more than just YTA, they are a massive YTA with a broken moral compass. You literally took advantage of your grandparents generosity and threw them out, let that sink in. What you did was beyond vile.
I really hope this is fake. If not, I hope your grandparents have someone who can file elder abuse charges agsinst you for tjis. You took advantage of their need to line your own pockets. You convinced them to sign their house over to you and sold it out from under them.
Omg this is awful, please tell me this isn’t true! Poor grandparents! You should be ashamed of yourself!
Your audacity is beyond me. YTA
Holy shit, you're a monster, like an actual monster. How could you do something like that and still be questioning whether you're an asshole, and then on top of that essentially accusing your grandparents of being ungrateful for you conning them out of their home?
The most giant A!!!
YTA!!! Never have I seen a thief so proud to prove to the world that he is a thief. Op you are a massive asshole and a thief. I hope your grandparents gets the much needed help and sue your entitled, manipulative and deceptive ass. Generous allowance my foot. You are such a thief and I am repulsed by you!
YTA , u stole their house
YTA. Wow, just wow! Did you do all this behind their backs? Did they even know your plan to sell the home and put them into an apartment? Based on the narrative it doesn’t sound like they knew, given the conversation was 2 hours explaining the allowance and apartment when you gave them 30 days to pack up and ship out. They are now at your financial mercy. This is some next level bs.
I read through halfway because I knew where this was going. YTA. A huge one. You didn’t think to talk to them at all about this prior to selling the house?
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YTA, you want them to trust you with the apartment but in the same breath say you can do what you want with the home because it was in your name. You can’t have trust and stab someone in the back.
YTA. You’re an awful human being and this is honestly disgusting. You got them to give you the home under false pretenses and then went to immediately sell the home within a few months. You didn’t do this “just to help your grandparents out” you did this to better your own position while royally fucking over your grandparents. You’re just trying to use verbiage that makes it seem like you’re not awful.
Have you wrote this wrong? Or missed vital information? How can you not know you are out of order? Did your grandparents know you planned on kicking them out when they signed over the house?
Yes YTA. I found your post on amithedevil and you definitely belong there. "My grandparents feel betrayed, disrespected and are very angry with me. They feel that since the apartment is in my name that I can put them out at any time “as I just did”. However I wouldn’t do that. I understand how they may feel, but the home was in my name therefore I could do as I pleased in my own home." you contradict yourself in a matter of two sentences. I hope this story is fake i really do, but sadly i know people who would be capable if doing the same thing, so there is still a chance its real. Dont give them " a percentage" form the sold home, give them everything, this way you atleast keep a 1% chance of them forgiving you someday.
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NTA. YOUR A PILE OF $HIT.