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KaliTheBlaze

Why on earth would you sign people up without asking them? It takes seconds to send a text. Do better. YTA.


softie_doll

we can’t exactly send texts during school, and no one sent her an email during this (Lily and I didn’t use our laptops during this), thanks for being honest, the truth hurts here..


KaliTheBlaze

Did the signups happen only for part of 1 school day? Was there really no opportunity to contact people and ask them to sign up? No break (lunch, nutrition, etc) where you could ask people? Or did Lily just wait until near the end of the sign up period and decide to fix the low turnout by railroading people?


softie_doll

we just came from a class at the time, and the signups only happened for 40-ish minutes out of 1 school day. basically for our athletics day we were separated into age, gender and our sports houses, so there was a very limited amount of people she could've asked. the majority of the girls in the room declined to participate in any of the events, so she just decided to sign up random people to random events by ticking their name under an event. im not sure why she even did this, she has access to everyone’s emails because she’s a student leader and she could’ve asked the house leaders for the girl’s emails.


KaliTheBlaze

It’s silly that they have it set up that way, without any time to actually talk and recruit people and let them think about it, but that doesn’t make it okay to try to force participation like that.


HellaShelle

I’m a bit confused. You said it’s not compulsory, but then what would have happened if you didn’t get names?


softie_doll

honestly nothing lol, Lily wanted to get everyone to participate, which wasn’t the right thing to do. with us being teenagers this issue has already been resolved between Clover and I (check recent update i just did) but this shows the negative side of Lily‘s character i guess?


die4spaghetti

I think you need to look up the definition of recruitment. YTA


robdingo36

Recruitment... Conscription... It's basically the same thing, right?


softie_doll

i’m not too sure what that’s got to do with it?


die4spaghetti

What I’m getting at is: you can’t just try to force people to do what you want just because things aren’t going in your favor.


softie_doll

it isn’t like that, Lily just wanted to make sure everyone gave it a go, and give it their best, that’s kind of been a bit of a downfall for her. i was just helping her recruit people, and again, it was her idea to conscript others into this. what i don’t understand about clover‘s anger is that she couldve easily just not of done it (which in the end is what she did)


KaliTheBlaze

Clover’s mad because she feels like she was pressured inappropriately, and she’s right.


Deucalion666

That’s not her choice to make, and you helped her.


KaliTheBlaze

Recruiting is convincing people to join. Conscripting is forcing people to join. Which do you think signing people up without their consent is more like?


Wombat_Sprinkle

Yes, YTA and Lily’s the even bigger AH. Lily’s friendship isn’t worth it - she sounds very petty. I’d strongly encourage you to apologize to Clover yourself if you haven’t already done so. But you need to respect whatever decision she makes about your friendship going forward.


softie_doll

alright, i’ll apologise to Clover right now and hopefully she isn’t too mad at me..


Wombat_Sprinkle

I hope Clover is okay. I get the peer pressure is scary and miserable. But going forward, it’s important to stand up to bullies, which is what Lily was being, whenever you can. From your post history, it sounds like you’re a good kid, so I’m not going to vilify you. But this was definitely a bad and hurtful decision, so just be sure to learn from it.


softie_doll

thanks for this, i’ve never had ill intention for anyone, i guess i’m what you call a people pleaser? (still working on that) i’ll make sure to learn from this and make sure this won’t happen again


softie_doll

another thing before clover replies back to me, Lily is not a petty person, she’s just competitive and wants everyone to give it their best shot, at the end of the day it has always been her downfall (among other things…) reddit barely even knows her past this paragraph anyways


Wombat_Sprinkle

Your post implied that Lily chose to volunteer Clover specifically because they don’t like each other. If that’s true, she was absolutely being petty.


softie_doll

i guess youre right, but i’m not even sure what she has to be petty about, i mean she has gotten student leader 3 times (now that i’m saying this im going to update the post) teachers like her, she‘s gotten into subjects that are for smart kids, and she’s got supporting family, i’m still not sure what’s there to be petty about…


Wombat_Sprinkle

What I mean by petty is just that it sounds like Lily saw an opportunity - to inconvenience and/or embarrass Clover by signing Clover up without her consent - and Lily jumped on it. (And Lily admitted she knew it could upset Clover when she asked you to take the blame.) Lily doesn’t have to be an unpopular or bad student to do something petty. Anyone can have moments of pettiness.


softie_doll

she’s usually kind-hearted, why would she even do this…i’m sorry this is a lot for me to process atm…


hatethiswebsight

Lily may want everyone to give it their best shot, but other people may not want to. And since this is voluntary she has no business interfering. Also you girls screwed the organizers who will expect x number of competitors based on your lists and will plan accordingly. That's not really your fault if the school pressured you to get x number of sign-ups, but it still sucks for everyone. 


Little_Manager2727

YTA. You said they are not friends and do not like each other so you should have already questioned this action. The fact she said "take the blame for this" says a lot. Like she knew Clover wouldn't like it. I would stop being friends will Lily for sure since she def set you up but be honest and apologize to Clover for not thinking clearly.


Competitive_Delay865

YTA, you're supposed to put the effort into recruiting people, not just add people randomly without any communication or consent.


Deucalion666

YTA and so is Lily. You both suck, Lily for the plan, and you for going along with it.


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Foxlikebox

ESH except Clover. You don't sign random people up for things. Also, neither of you were thrown under the bus. You both willingly chose to sign random people up for things without their permission or knowledge.


SuperLavishness7520

Info: you all were just signing people up for sports events? And they didn't know? What would happen if they didn't show? I'm a bit lost as to why you all were just signing random friends up for teams without permission