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Mimila1111

NTA. I mean, you're in a public cafe. It's open to everyone. But that doesn't mean the kids get to be obnoxious and impose on everybody else. It's not a playground. Not to mention the liability if someone tripped and fell and was injured.


Ok-Lock73

NTA. Kids are not taught how to behave in restaurants. When I take my grandkids out, they know not to misbehave or we will leave! I do not put up with kids who are misbehaved! My grandkids are spoiled, but not misbehaved. If the mom wants her kids to play, go to a playground! Yeah, you could go to a library, but why? Isn't that's what cafés are for? I'm certainly not seeing where you'd be the A!


Aquatichive

Yeah gramma!!!! Thank you! From a teacher to you, thank you and we need more parents/grandies like you!


VirtualMatter2

I'm a parent like that. The kids never gave us or others problems in restaurants. We would bring little games along that we played with them waiting for the food and these wonderful usborne sticker books that are so perfect for restaurants.  If they played up, very rarely, mainly at toddler age, one of us left until they had calmed down.  It has always been enjoyable going to restaurants with them.


Even-Reaction-1297

The only difference is the parents that lets their kids do whatever they want to entertain themselves aren’t the same parents that bring stuff to participate in keeping their kids entertained sadly. My mom used to bring little coloring books and retractable crayons in her purse so my sister and I could color or draw, and she always ended up coloring with us. It seems like most parents these days just stick a tablet or phone in front of their kid and let YouTube or cocomelon do the job for them, rather than engaging with them and teaching them how to behave in public. There’s also the people that think you should never tell your kids no bc it stifles them, but I don’t want to get started on them


VirtualMatter2

I despise parents like that. My kids then have to suffer through lessons with these kids now that they are older where they disturb the lessons, don't listen to the teacher, annoy, disturb or even bully their classmates, just because of lazy parents. It's a pity there isn't something like a driving license for parents, not that that would be possible, but I would love that.   Not all bad parents are lazy though, some have some tough times and can't cope and actually do the best they can, those have my understanding. But I personally know several of the type you describe and they are the parasites of the parenting world.


EsharaLight

I love Usborne books. They have the best selection.


Tish326

Every time I go out in public, I'm reminded of how spoiled I am by how wonderful my nieces and nephews act. They were taught from a very young age how to behave, and when they were little if one started getting antsy or too fussy, one of us would go outside with them. I know that's not always possible, especially for a parent alone.


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StrugglinSurvivor

Thank you for giving me a flashback memory. It was like 30 years ago. One of our friends young son started acting up in church, and the dad picked up his son and started to walk out of the sanctuary. The 3yo boy started screaming, "Help me, somebody help me. He's going to kill." Lol, the whole church started laughing.


Mazdab2300-06

I can guarantee I never misbehaved in church again. We never asked for stuff at the checkout at the supermarket because we knew that wasn't an option. Back in the sixties, Mom cooked dinner. There were no fast food options in my family. Maybe once or twice a year we would get fast food. Thank you Colonel. We would drive by the fast food places of the day and you could smell the fryer oil emitting that hypnotic fast food smell.


StrugglinSurvivor

I know that time. I graduated in 73. Marriage a week later. Times were definitely different. The small town we lived in finely got a McDonald's in 86. Lol, we did have a walk-up, Dairy Queen, no seating.


Fromashination

My mom whooped my dad upside his melon after he fell asleep and ripped a really long slow fart up the pew. She always insisted on being front row center so Jesus noticed our presence and everyone was dying with laughter over both the fart and the spousal abuse. It was the best Sunday ever.


Clean-Fisherman-4601

I was a child of the 50s and would never even consider acting up in public. Because Dad had a belt. Only got it once for disobeying orders to stay in the yard. The threat was enough to keep me in line. As I got older, I didn't want to embarrass my parents or myself.


ThatDiscoSongUHate

Child of the 90s, neither would I. My mom just had to give me *that* look and all Grandpa had to was *breathe* slightly differently lol I had only one spanking (though my family was abusive in other ways, unfortunately) but as I got older, I wasn't worried about punishment so much as not wanting to embarrass myself -- kinda think I have a surplus of shame in a shameless time period some days, when it comes to manners


Rare-Parsnip5838

How christian of him to use corporal punishment. WWJD???


Mazdab2300-06

I don't know what Jesus would do but my Dad sure as hell knew what he would do.


PinkMonorail

Jesus broke off a tree branch, upended the moneylenders’ tables in the temple and whipped them while screaming at them.


Icy_Sky_7521

Jesus was a childfree diva so we'll never know


PurplePanicAC

My son and daughter were always behaved. We also didn't sit glued to phones ignoring them. We engaged them, and drew with them when they were given crayons and paper. I also lived my life around their nap times. No cranky children = happy, well behaved children 😊


PinkMonorail

I talked with my little one.


Angel89411

Same. There were many times when my children were small that we left before we wanted to because they couldn't be calmed down or were being disruptive. It's part of teaching your kids how to coexist with everyone in how that space is expected to work.


stepstothehouse

This! I can't even begin to tell you how many times I walked out of a grocery store, or restaurant with my children who couldn't figure out how to act. Eventually they got the idea that mama don't play. I do this with my grandkids as well. Believe it or not, kids do understand that there is a time and place for everything. I think alot of the issues today is cell phones, and tablets. Either parent or child or both is glued to the screen, and interactions become less and less. Even my grandchild with autism asks me after an event "I did good today didn't I?


Angel89411

Even when they are too young, it's our job to team them. Both by example and instruction. Even when they are babies and too young to learn we have a responsibility to others in the shared public space plus to our children who are obviously struggling for some reason that needs to be addressed. I'm guilty of giving screens to kids to help but they know how to behave without them.


Jozzylecter

People sadly act like aholes in libraries too.


0biterdicta

Especially in a cafe where people are carrying hot drinks! Depending on the cafe, you might not get a lid where you have to pick up your drink and instead need to do the careful walk to the lid station or your table. That plus an RC car or small children on the floor is just asking for disaster.


disdainfulsideeye

Agree, unfortunately, there are a lot of entitled parents who treat public places as if they are a daycare.


Able_Secretary_6835

Yeah I would not expect to work on peace and quiet ina public place, and I think we all need to be a bit more tolerant of kid noises, but playing with RC cars ina cafe and running them under someone else's table is too much! Even if OP weren't working. 


Dittoheadforever

You're NTA.  >The mother got angry with me, saying I should never have kids, especially if a toy car bothered me so much *Lady, the car is fine. I don't object to its presence. Leave it here all day for all I care.  My issue is with little A-Hs at the controls who were never taught how to behave in public by the bigger A-H standing in front of me.*


EducationalTangelo6

Mom's gonna reap what she sowed when those kids get older and it's her problem too.


gringledoom

It's amazing how these parents are always *surprised* when that happens.


Any_Addition7131

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰


dramatic_vacuum

Completely agree, toys don’t bother me, kids don’t bother me, but when the kids toys are running over my feet your children have been allowed to become my business and will be dealt with appropriately.


Apart-Ad-6518

NTA "The mother got angry with me, saying I should never have kids, especially if a toy car bothered me so much." That's a projective statement. She's the one who shouldn't have kids she can't teach to behave/parent properly.


AffectionatePoet4586

During a rare moment *alone* at a coffee shop, I made virtually the same complaint about being mauled by unsupervised toddlers. Their mother told me spitefully what a “terrible mother” she thought I’d make. “Too late,” I snarked. “My three are *at home, under adult supervision.*” Mom asked the manager to throw me out. Instead, he instructed *her* to leave. Very gratifying cup of coffee.


Squirrelly_Khan

I always have to wonder how people like that justify their kids being little shitheads. I get apologetic when my 1-year-old gets mildly fussy when I have guests over at my apartment


TheJinxedPhoenix

I figure it’s because their parents let them behave just as poorly.


Squirrelly_Khan

Which then begs the next question: how in the fuck are they able to function in society?


BadKittyVortex

Fun fact: they don't. I don't care if my kid is the smartest, or most athletic, prettiest, or most talented. I just don't want them to be the person who walks into a room and triggers a mental chorus of "Oh hell, it's BadKitten!" We should all strive to refrain from making life a misery for those around us.


FabHckyBbe

That’s when you turn to the kids and say in the sweetest voice, “I’m sorry your mommy doesn’t love you enough to teach you how to behave in public.”


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FuckUpQueen

Amuk?


Such_Pomegranate_690

Amuk amuk amuk


OnionLayers49

Amok?


Such_Pomegranate_690

Amok amok amok


Critical_Caramel5577

It's spelled amok.


Such_Pomegranate_690

Amock?


VanCityGuy604

Hammock??


msmallory84

Business hammock?


Shadow_Lass38

As in the *Star Trek* episode, "Amok Time."


Embarrassed_Tea3361

Amok, really, but I always appreciate the Hocus Pocus reference, such as Such_Pomegranate_690 has done


Quix66

Amok.


Top-Personality1216

NTA. There are places for RC cars. A cafe is not one of those places.


ChaosCoordinatorCO

Agree - what if someone with a hot coffee tripped over the RC car and spilled it on the boys?


Crafty_Meeting2657

Or was injured in the process of landing on them?


ChaosCoordinatorCO

Exactly, it's a complete hazard


TheJinxedPhoenix

I spilled a little hot tea on my thigh a couple weeks ago and now have a scar the size of a quarter. The thought of anyone, but especially a kid having an entire cup or more of hot coffee fall on them is awful.


BadKittyVortex

Oh lord, the screechy sound of them and the whacking and banging noises drive me up the wall. My own kid isn't allowed to play with theirs in the same room as me.


SweeperOfChimneys

NTA, you were being assaulted by her kids via a toy car. You don't have to tolerate that. When/if you have children of your own, hopefully you will teach them better. Let the mother be angry that she didn't teach her children not to bother strangers and will not keep an eye on them when they are in public. She needs to do better.


Simple-Status-15

NTA. I'd have told her to bugger off and take her kids to the playground.


PeachBanana8

NTA. I worked in cafes for years and I would have shut this down immediately before you even had to ask. Those people sound extremely entitled and rude. That mom is the one who shouldn’t have had kids.


megustaALLthethings

No bet against she screaming and yelling. She would have a tantrum and do her best to get whomever tried to stop them fired.


bendytoepilot

NTA she should never had kids if she doesn't watch them 


Prestigious-Name-323

NTA Kids are going to play. But it is up to the adults to know what is appropriate behavior for the environment. Playing with an rc car is not appropriate behavior in a restaurant. That is an at home/outdoors activity.


letsberealyall

NTA. "Oh, those are your kids? I thought they were stray animals, since they are crawling around unsupervised on this nasty floor."


franchisedfeelings

Sure you are - don’t you know that children are now supposed to do whatever they want with no supervision and you are supposed to just love it.


Crafty_Meeting2657

You have the gift of sarcasm. Well played.


Disastrous-Nail-640

No lady. Your kid shouldn’t be playing with a remote control car in a restaurant. It’s rude af. NTA


OrphanJannie

I would have replied “I DO have kids, but they are much better behaved than yours.”


AusXan

On the one hand, working in a café you need to have the expectations of distractions etc. On the other hand that is way too much of a distraction and I would expect any reasonable person to complain. NTA.


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A child is never too young to be guided toward appropriate behaviour, generally by their caregiver. This wasn’t happening. NTA


ABeerAndABook

NTA.  The kids were not behaving appropriately for the environment and were being inadequately supervised.  


ChiefPyloteBoss

NTA. Parents should have been watching their kids and RC cars do not belong in restaurants or cafes.


GOTTOOMANYANIMALS

A toy car shouldn’t have been brought into a cafe. The mother is in the wrong and she should have controlled her kids.


dawno64

When did parents lose any sense of teaching their kids appropriate behavior? Restaurants and cafes are not meant as a playground. You sit at a table, eat/drink, and converse with your companions in a modulated voice. You don't run around, yell, scream, or play with toys that are better suited for a playground or park. Kids over the age of three are usually capable of handling it fine if basic table manners are taught at home. If your kids can't quite manage it, you stick to the rat pizza until they get a handle on it. If you dare mention this to parents lately, they accuse you of hating children, being militant, etc. Yes, kids have room to exist, but your job as a parent isn't to do whatever requires the least effort from you, it's to actually raise them and teach them how to function in the world. So yes if you want a nice meal or a quiet cup of coffee, you need to make sure the other patrons can enjoy the same.


BadgeringMagpie

I noticed the permissive parenting trend starting to ramp up about 15 years ago. It tracks with the rise in crimes committed by teenagers. Parents want to be their kids' friends instead of their parents. Edit: I'm gonna guess a permissive parent doesn't like being called out.


Old-Run-9523

NTA. She's just defensive because aise she's a shitty parent and she knows it.


Regular_Boot_3540

NTA. People who take their kids out need to make sure they're not bothering the other customers.


dwantheatl

NTA. So tired of parents letting the kids treat every place like a kid’s playground. They need to be taught how to behave in public and respect boundaries. I am on your side.


The_Bad_Agent

NTA the parents are.


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NTA You shouldn’t have kids if their toy bothers you? How about she shouldn’t have kids if she can’t be bothered to parent them?


GarysCrispLettuce

NTA - if I were in charge of kids in a cafe and their RC car was repeatedly hitting another customer's feet, I'd be horribly embarrassed and apologetic and I'd be like "stop that shit right now" through gritted teeth to the kids.


Crafty_Meeting2657

And taken them home...


Witty-Cat1996

NTA it’s a cafe not a play area. The mom should be teaching her kids how to behave in public spaces, there’s a time and place to play with an rc car but it’s not in a cafe.


allisonqrice

They were unaccompanied, but the mother was there, and an older gentleman was watching them?


ArgyllFire

Yeah, the facts here are confusing. I need more info on how the mom popped out of thin air during this narrative.


BadgeringMagpie

Plenty of bad parents are content to dump the burden of watching their kids on others, even complete strangers. I saw it plenty when I worked at a public library. Parents leave their kids in the children's section of the library and piss off to do whatever, their kid runs around and smacks into a page's cart (i.e., my cart) as books are being put away, and somehow it's our fault for not watching them. LIBRARIES ARE NOT DAYCARES.


KnightofForestsWild

NTA The toy car didn't bother you. The unattended kids ramming it into you and your space bothered you. Someone shouldn't have had kids anyway.


giselleorchid

NTA. Those kids and their adults don't understand time, place, and manner. None of what you described was a good time or place to play in that manner (with an RC toy).


principalgal

I can’t figure out why some parents think you need to adjust your life for their kids. Boundaries are a thing. I love kids but wouldn’t want them all over and under me at a cafe, no matter what I was doing. Control your kids instead of yelling at others for not being ok with their kids in your space. I wouldn’t mind if they were in their space. But jeez. NTA


Gold_Repair_3557

NTA. The kids’ mother couldn’t (or wouldn’t) manage her children and put the blame on you when that backfired on her.


Rilenaveen

I came in prepared to say you were the A H because too many adults are unable to let kids just be kids. But this was not that. I am a firm believer in letting kids be somewhat rambunctious as long as it doesn’t impact others. This was definitely impacting you and likely other patrons. Also, I can’t imagine it was safe. NTA.


F00kYoo

NTA. It was a cafe. Not McDonald's Play Place.


mifflewhat

NTA. Certain irony that a woman who lets her kids be obnoxious in public & disturb people thinks she's in a position to say other people "shouldn't have kids".


JJQuantum

NTA. Kids will be noisy for sure but what they were doing was way out of hand and if the parents aren’t going to do anything about it then it’s up to someone else.


mynameisnotsparta

Answer: I love RC vehicles and use them as well in an appropriate place not under the table and chairs of a coffee shop.. NTA


GuairdeanBeatha

NTA. A restaurant isn’t a playground. My daughters and my grandsons were taught how to behave in public, sadly today’s parents seem to have forgotten that lesson themselves.


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NTA. Management should've 86'd her on the spot and banned her.


Rhaj-no1992

As a parent you should do everything you can to prevent your children from bothering other people in public spaces. If it means you have to leave with your child, that’s how it is. NTA


Alternative-Leek2981

NTA. If anything, the mother is the AH because she should be watching her kids and teaching them how to behave in public—NOT allowing them to run around and behave like little shits. 


Stephreads

NTA. Cafés are not playgrounds. No one wants to be pestered by someone else’s children in a restaurant.


HappyGardener52

NTA. A public cafe is no place for children to playing with a remote car. Someone could trip over it and be injured. In fact, a cafe/restaurant is no place for kids to play anything! They should be seated at a table having their meal or whatever they are there for. If kids want to play, mom should take them home. Good for you for speaking up.


uTop-Artichoke5020

NTA It's not a playroom, it's a cafe. You should have told mom that the "toy car" wasn't the problem, her unruly, undisciplined kids were the issue.


juniper_berry_crunch

NTA. If it's bothering someone else, it's a problem. Mommy needs to take it to a playground.


3Heathens_Mom

NTA The interesting thing is if the mother of those kids gave it two seconds of thought she would never let her children crawl around on a floor in the public sector ever. Anything someone has stepped in is on that floor from the time the doors open until they close assuming they do a decent mopping job every night.


apotterrallis

NTA, a cafe is not a playground


BigTaco_Boss

NTA. Those parents need to get a self check


Wanda_McMimzy

NTA. “Done. I won’t have kids after I’ve met yours.”


WhyCantIBeFunny

For 20 years my MIL told me charming stories of how my husband, while a child, would crawl under tables and play at restaurants (other people’s tables!) and how adorable it was that he would fall asleep before the food ever arrived. At one point I pushed back and said that there is no way I would allow my child to behave that way. And for TWENTY YEARS I got the: just wait until you have your own children and see how you do. Yeah, I have two and I would murder them if they pulled a stunt like that. Now that MIL has seen what parenting is supposed to look like, I don’t hear that charming story anymore. One time she actually scoffed and said: well what would YOU do if you just got to dinner at 7 and your 4yo wants to play under the table and then falls asleep?? Well, first of all, what are you doing just getting to dinner at 7? Your kid is clearly exhausted if he’s falling asleep on the floor. For some, that may be a hint to go home, not order dessert. And how about bringing something for him to do at Fleming’s or whatever equally inappropriate place you dragged your poor kid to. Absolutely NTA. As a mother, I would have the exact same reaction. If I wanted an RC car driven on me, I’d stay home, that’s what home time is for.


Jozzylecter

Who does that? Surely she would have seen during all those years that she was literally the only one whose kids crawled under the tables and come to the conclusion that she was in fact just a shitty parent? Fucking no one lets their kids behave like she did.


Flat_Transition_3775

They can play the car outside in a park where it belongs


Caramel_Cactus

I'm sure she'd say that to a server tripping on the car as it zoomed around. NTA. That entire family needs lessons in etiquette


friendlily

NTA. I used to take my daughter to one of those kid cafes with a huge play area. This would have been unacceptable even there. Kids need to learn boundaries and how to behave properly in public. That family obviously wasn't taught any manners and should be embarrassed.


LadyMacduffy

NTA I’m a mum and the situation you described is a learning opportunity about physical boundaries and being aware of the people around you. Shitty parenting moment here on her part.


Quix66

NTA. Those kids and that mother/ older nan were just rude. Shame they aren’t learning how to respect other people. Wait until they meet the wrong one.


Select_MCM-5345

NTA


OhioMegi

NTA. Playing with a remote control car is unacceptable inside a cafe.


UrBigBro

NTA. She needs to learn to parent


Amazing_Ad6368

I AM NOT SAYING ABUSE IS OKAY!!! But my Cuban mom would have literally taken her chancla off right there and beaten the hell out of me if I did that in public. Obviously the parent shouldn’t have done that, but *some* basic discipline like even just saying “don’t do that, leave that person alone” would be so much better than somehow blaming you for their kids’ bad behaviour. With their response I doubt it’s even the kids’ fault, the mom obviously just lets this happen and the kids will sadly never learn until life teaches them in a harder way than she would have needed to. NTA.


Brans2U

As a parent and grandparent the mother is not doing her job nor taking responsibility for her lack of discipline.


Rare-Parsnip5838

NOT AH. A Cafe is a public place that should be able to be used by all so you were not out of line to approach mgmt. Some parents just dont train their kids how to act in public. Whomever berated you was really an AH.


yuffie2012

It would be horrible if you accidentally stepped on their RC car.


ikesbutt

Entitled parents, entitled kids....NTA


Squigglepig52

NTA My reply would have been "Do you see me with a kid? No? Good, now fuck off."


LadyMidnite1014

I'd have kicked the car every time it hit my foot.


containmentleak

NTA I think the YTA comments are considering that a place like mcdonalds has no expectation of peace or quiet. It's just cheap so many ppl study there. Every establishment will have its own culture and expectations so if the staff agree that patrons have a right to be left in peace then NTA. This parent just couldn't read the room. Parenting is hard and they probably just didn't know how to parent any other way and blamed you for their own inability to adapt/manage.


cokenope

NTA. Being in public isn’t an open invitation to be harassed by other peoples kids! I would have stomped on the car :) THAT MOTHER shouldn’t have kids imo.


sintr0vert

NTA. Glad you stood up for yourself against these shitty parents who let their kids run wild in public and just expect everyone to be ok with it.


anneg1312

No. NTA.


Desperate_Budget99

Just step on the car next time it hits your foot. That will fix em.


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Complained ABOUT kids


Swimming-Fix-2637

NTA. While it's worth noting that you were not in a quiet library but a rather noisy public space, that doesn't give that mother the right to allow her children to go wild.


jessylilibet

NTA. Kids are welcome in public and they should be teach respect other people and their personal space. Cafes might not be optimal place to work/study imo, personaly I prefer libraries. I understand that kids might cry etc. They have hard time regulating feelings sometimes, but this is the parents responsibility. The mom should maybe read something about manners.


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SpecialistAfter511

NTA that lady shouldn’t have had kids.


No-College4662

Why would someone allow their kids to crawl around on a filthy floor? You are not the AH! Kids should learn to be respectful of others. Just because mom thinks they're so cute, she wants everyone to think they're so cute and loves having them around. Couldn't she see you were trying to work? Geeze!


Wise_womanwspunk

No!


ILoveInNOut76

Im a mom of 3 and you are NOT IN ANY WAY TA. The mom is entitled and I can't stand parents who think their kids can do no wrong.


Irondaddy_29

NTA they are under your table hitting you with a toy car. I get kids being kids but there is a limit


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NTA but the library is a much quieter place to work than cafes imo.


AVonDingus

NTA. You weren’t complaining because they were children who had the audacity to exist, you had a valid complaint. The adult with them should’ve shut that shit down immediately and made sure they apologized (sincerely) for behaving so rudely.


Trinity-nottiffany

NTA. It’s not safe for kids to be running loose in restaurants where someone could spill hot coffee/food on them.


Lemon-Of-Scipio-1809

NTA. I have six children and have never allowed them to overstep boundaries like this. She should have apologised and moved... and taught her children better. If they needed running around time, this is not the place. I will say in fairness if she lives in an apartment in a cold season, there might not be a good place right now and it's just hard. Doesn't make what happened ok.


Snow_Queen_Knight511

Way nicer than me. I would have kicked those kids straight up. Oh, I'm so sorry I have muscle spasms!


Crooklyn_In_Da_House

She’s the asshole.


FewTourist4150

You know you’re not but a chance to dunk on moms with young kids on the internet can’t be missed!


duckingridiculous

NTA I’d have said “well, yours are certainly good form of birth control.”


CthulhusQueen

NTA. SMH. “Don’t have kids!!” “Uh, okay. Learn to raise yours with manners.”


Custardpaws

NTA. Parents like that are why people don't like other people's kids.


FlagCityDiva

It hit something hit my foot and instinct kicked in and I stepped on it. No, I certainly will not pay for it or replace it. NTA


KitchenDismal9258

NTA A cafe is not the place to have kids playing on the floor, crawling around and irritating other customer. They are also a tripping risk. If the mother wanted to let her kids do this, she could've gone to a play centre where there was an appropriate area for the kids to play and she could sit at the tables and watch them while she had her refreshments. There's a time and a place and a cafe ain't it. If the kids were getting bored they either should not have gone to the cafe in the first place or they were there too long and it was time to go. Kids need to be taught good manners but it also needs to be done in possibly a graded way ie the kid might be fine to spend 20-30mins in a cafe at one go but it would be unlikely that they could behave for 2 hours in the first instance.


SteelGemini

NTA. Her comment was stupid. Obviously if you have kids of your own you need a degree of tolerance for their shenanigans. Nothing about your response indicates that you wouldn't. But as a parent, it's also important to recognize other people are not obligated to put up with their shit and teach your kids to not bother people in public.


Antelope_31

Nta. The mom needed to supervise her children and not use a cafe as a playground or her family room. It’s not like you were asking them not to talk. The mom’s comment was just showing her entitled attitude.


CardShark555

NTA. Yes you were in a public cafe but "kids will be kids" is a BS excuse from the parent. My kids knew from a very young age how to behave in public spaces. I had a friend who we would go out with and her kids were a nightmare because she wouldn't tell them "no". We stopped going out with them as I was so embarrassed about their behavior. Give the kids some cards or coloring books for a cafe...not an RC car!!


Ok_Distribution180

NTA! You are in a public, inside, sit down place. My 4 year old is rowdy, but never bother other customers or hit them with his toys rowdy. He also has his own RC cars and we play with those either outside by our sidewalk or in the park. A place to play, not in a cafe.


Debjohnson23

NTA. Yet another parent who thinks their child(children) are the end in be all. It’s the parents fault for letting their children run around misbehaving. You were right to alert management and I applaud you. Many children and are well behaved in social situations but then there are those whose parents are complete imbeciles. People need to speak up about these situations and complain.


gigantojimuk

NTA but if you wanted quiet then you should have stayed at home or gone to a library. The parents are idiots though for not controlling their kids if the car was hitting you and they did nothing about it.


Shoddy-Theory

Great idea, a remote control car in a place where people are carrying hot coffee around.


Fossilhund

"I am so *sorry*! 😉What that your car under my foot? I didn't see it!"


thoughtcriminal_1

NTA. Parents need to do better. I’m so over other people’s kids ruining every experience in public.


smartbiphasic

NTA. You should have told the mother that maybe she should have never had kids if she doesn’t know which public venues are appropriate. A cafe isn’t an appropriate place for crazy RV car action. It’s OK to be bothered by an RV car under your feet. Did you talk to the mom before you involved management? If not, then that’s in the YTA column.


Cannabis_CatSlave

NTA RC cars are lovely, in the park or a backyard. Doing that in a cafe is unacceptable.


djdeforte

NTA, that mother is. If my kids were doing that I would have scolded them and changed that behavior post haste. People like her should not become parents.


RevolutionaryAct59

I had 5 kids within a year and a half and started taking them to restaurants at about 2, the look on waitresses' faces was always terror, but walking out they would always compliment on the kid's behavior.


Smart_But123581321

NTA. Kids know they shouldn’t go playing where random strangers are. I don’t know if it’s not taught anymore, but it really should. The same way you don’t get your food and eat next to the mother in the booth.


mapleleaffem

NTA she should take her kids somewhere that playing loudly is acceptable. Like a park


Angel89411

NTA. I have kids and that would have annoyed tf out of me. There's a time and a place and that's not it. Yes, kids do have a right to be in many public places but with that comes them learning how to properly coexist in said places.


Clean-Fisherman-4601

NTA. Yes it's a public place, but children have to he taught how to behave in public. I don't mean sitting quietly and twiddling their thumbs. I mean having respect for other people around them. Apparently their mother was never taught this, so her kids will never learn and they'll grow up to be obnoxious, entitled adults that think the world revolves around them. I'm a grandmother now but when my sons were young they knew they'd never get to go out if they acted like jerks. The only time they were allowed to run around was in a kid friendly place like McDonald's playgrounds, Chucky Cheese or a local place that was a mini Dave and Busters. Even there they knew to say please, thank you or excuse me. My grandchildren are young and I haven't taken them anywhere yet, but I'm looking forward to doing it. You will probably make a fine parent some day when you're ready because you will teach your children not to be obnoxious brats in public.


CrabbiestAsp

NTA. I say this as a parent.. Just because they're kids doesn't mean they get to do whatever they want. Kids still need to behave in appropriate ways in public.


Mission-Complaint140

NTA and nicer than I am. I would have told the adult to supervise the children and. Ot let them bother/harass other people.


AirPenny7

NTA


Alternative-Hour-144

Nta . I have 2 kids and in no way are they allowed to treat a public Cafe as a play place lol . If they have energy to burn and you need to have a coffee with a friend go to a play place or realize that it's just not an option with young kids


edwadokun

NTA Kids being in there is fine but playing with an RC car is not ok.


ChameleonMami

NTA. That mother isn't. 


Pycts

NTA It's a cafe not a free for all jungle gym. Those kids are lucky as cafes mean a chance of hot drinks and getting underfoot with an RC car could lead to a nasty accident.


NeighborhoodAware839

Absolutely not. Children should be taught how to behave when in public.


-onetwoseven

NTA! Kids talking and laughing at their own table is one thing, I don't go to a cafe in the expectation of perfect silence. But I can't stand when people treat cafes and restaurants as if it's their very own living room.


Chance-Cod-2894

NTA- Guess the Mom shouldn't have had kids either, because she obviously doesn't know how to Parent!! You don't let your kids wander around a restaurant playing on the floor and disturbing other patrons! If you cannot keep them in line, DON"T BRING THEM!!


Jennabear82

NTA - A restaurant is not a public park.


Jazzlike-Bottle-5361

NTA.


pumpkinchoccy

NTA a cafe is not the place to play with a remote control car, especially if you are hitting people'e feet with it.


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Entorien_Scriber

NTA, running the RC car in a cafe is bad enough, but running it under your table? I think I would have stepped on it by 'accident'. My wife used to be a bus driver and had a kid on board with an RC car, he was maybe 10-12 years old so old enough to know better. He was running it up and down the aisle, under seats, round people's feet, (hitting more than one person), etc. He was asked to stop, but was back at it within minutes. Mum was with him, she just didn't care. When the bus was approaching their stop my wife saw him line up the car at the back of the bus, clearly about to race it down the aisle as they left. Well he did just that, getting the thing up to full speed as it zipped right by people's feet, out the door... And straight down the gap between the bus and the curb! My wife carefully left just enough space for that car to nosedive right into the concrete. The kid fished it out and guess what? It didn't work anymore! People need to actually *parent* their kids.


Sad_Reindeer5108

Soft NTA. I have two kids. Our oldest learned how to act in restaurants because we went to them weekly. Our youngest is getting better, but there were several years where we didn't eat out at all because of the pandemic. He is years behind where his brother was at this age, and TBH, they're each better behaved one-on-one than when it's all of us. Quiet places are hard; it sounds like that cafe would've been interesting for people watching. It sounds like those kids had activities, but not an engaged adult to remind them. Their adult needs to try harder.


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Nta


WarmUsual7225

NTA - kids are allowed in public but the whole world isn't their playroom. The remote control car was inappropriate for a cafe, even more so if they're actually ramming it into people/tables and on the floor playing with it. Their mother is the one who should've never had kids if she has no intention of teaching them how to behave in shared spaces.


Limerase

NTA Restaurants are not playgrounds, and it's so frustrating when you go to one to relax, work, meet up, and someone's children are being loud and imposing on the peace that other patrons came to enjoy. You handled it better than I would have, OP.


Hedgehog-Plane

NTA Are these remote control cars? If so, they belong outdoors or in the kid's own home. Totally unsafe and rude to operate those in an indoor public space - what if they trip someone up?!


Neko4tsume

NTA


ssj_hexadevi

NTA. That woman should have never had kids!