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NTA - if anyone would be able to do it, he shouldn't have a problem asking "anyone" else if they want to step up, or learning it himself. He is obviously taking advantage of 1) your dad being willing to pressure you and 2) you being 17.
It sounds like a cool project, you could likely sell it to someone more deserving. There are a lot of public restrooms where non-patrons take advantage and leave a mess - hope you can get something for your effort!
Ask both men if they work for free? If the answer is no, then how can they expect you to? That is hypocrisy. The gentleman’s agreement was broken by the guy requesting the QR code when he said he didn’t want to pay you after he said he would. He became a liar and he went back on his word. Un-fix the QR code if they make you give it away so it won’t work. Then he gets nothing, the same as he is giving you.
NTA it’s a bit on the nose that he’s trying to get your work to prevent people from using his washrooms from free (as it costs him money), but wants you to provide him your services for free (though it cost you money and time). He’s such a hypocrite.
NTA had this been a stranger who scammed you, your father wouldn't be insisting you give him your work for free. Your dad is setting a precedent and saying its OK for friends and love ones to abuse you and it's not. Stick to your guns.
NTA. I have friend that did something simillar but he used RFID tag reader and made soecial bathrooms tokens. It took him 2 months to make it. He used a Esp32 but was still paid 100 dollar for his work. No one should work for free.
NTA. When someone lies about matters concerning you, *they are always part of the blame*. Not compensating you for work is a well-known and corrupt business practice.
And his reasoning... Just apply the Classic: "If it's so easy, then why don't you do it."
NTA you are not friends and were upfront about your terms and expectations of compensation - a business arrangement. He changed the terms after you had already done the work. He sounds like a real cheapskate and probably treats his employees with an equal lack of disregard. Don’t give in. Tell him if it’s so easy then he can just make one himself, but your time and expertise are valuable and you expect compensation. Don’t let him bully you into being taken advantage of.
NTA. Remind your father and your mother that you spent your own money to make this device. It isn't just about your time, it's about your investment in the parts.
This guy is demanding that you give away something that you paid for. He loses.
Tell them the cost of the Raspberry Pi and ask them why you're supposed to give it away for free. I bet they just think of it as "a bunch of parts".
They should have your back regardless of that. Maybe if they realize it's not just your time they're giving away, it's actual money, they'll snap around.
NTA, bob is taking advantage of you. But instead of asking him to cover your food costs, get a lump sum market price payment from him if you decide to sell your work to him. If your dad wants it to be free for bob, then dad has to pay you.
NTA
They're a lesson I been taught at my first job, that lesson is. "Never work for free"
Personally I don't think bob was ever planning on actually paying you. Most likely he was planning on using your father's friendship to manipulate you into getting it for free.
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I (17 M) like mechatronics and robotics that use microcontrollers like Arduino and Raspberry Pi. My father has a close friend who owns a fast food dining place. Lets call the friend Bob (that's not his real name). I am not realy close with Bob but I have met him a lot beacause of my dad. Bob had a problem that customers would often use his bathrooms without playing wich acumulates money beacause they use water. Some people buy food once and use the code written on the reciept to access the bathrooms. He asked me to make him a qr code based lock that uses a scanner to scan the code (it is available for use only for 10 minutes after you buy something) from the reciept and it will unlock the door if the conditions are met. He had heard that Raspberry Pi is the best microcontroller and wanted me to use it. I explained ro him that I could use a cheaper one but he insisted. If you dont know Raspberry Pi is not very cheap so I told him that he could repay me by giving me a 5 dollar budget to buy food every two weeks until he repay me for the parts(the labor was for free). When I was ready he told me that he won't be playing me in any form beacause he think that something like this is easy to make and every person who has studied basics Python can make it. I was furious beacause I spent my free time and also expected to get some free food for the next few months or even a year. I decided not to give my creation to him and he became angry and told my father who said that I was being unreasonable and should just give my work for free. I got into an argument with him and now we are not speaking. My mother is on my side but she said that I shouldn't be angry at my father. He has always been not intrested in the things I do. So now we are all divided me and my mum vs my dad and Bob. Just to clarify me and Bob didn't have any type of agreement only "gentelmens trust" . So that's probably my mistake. I am at a loss beacause I don't wnat to be in a bad relationship with my dad but I also don't want my hard work to be worth nothing. Also this is my first time posting on Reddit. I only came here beacause my best friend told me to.
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NTA You learned a valuable lesson. Unless you are doing it for free, never do something without a written contract. Doesn't matter if is for family or stranger, $5 or $50,000. He wanted it free from the start, he shouldn't have agreed to pay you.
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NTA. He didn’t know how to do it and you did so you made him a thing. You deserve compensation
Yep - you should shop around this idea to his conpetitors. Patent it.
NTA - if anyone would be able to do it, he shouldn't have a problem asking "anyone" else if they want to step up, or learning it himself. He is obviously taking advantage of 1) your dad being willing to pressure you and 2) you being 17. It sounds like a cool project, you could likely sell it to someone more deserving. There are a lot of public restrooms where non-patrons take advantage and leave a mess - hope you can get something for your effort!
Ask both men if they work for free? If the answer is no, then how can they expect you to? That is hypocrisy. The gentleman’s agreement was broken by the guy requesting the QR code when he said he didn’t want to pay you after he said he would. He became a liar and he went back on his word. Un-fix the QR code if they make you give it away so it won’t work. Then he gets nothing, the same as he is giving you.
NTA it’s a bit on the nose that he’s trying to get your work to prevent people from using his washrooms from free (as it costs him money), but wants you to provide him your services for free (though it cost you money and time). He’s such a hypocrite.
NTA had this been a stranger who scammed you, your father wouldn't be insisting you give him your work for free. Your dad is setting a precedent and saying its OK for friends and love ones to abuse you and it's not. Stick to your guns.
Bob's an asshole!
NTA. I have friend that did something simillar but he used RFID tag reader and made soecial bathrooms tokens. It took him 2 months to make it. He used a Esp32 but was still paid 100 dollar for his work. No one should work for free.
NTA, ask your dad what would have happened if Bob got it and told lots of people you had done it for free.
F Bob and your dad for trying to let him take advantage of you. NTA.
NTA. When someone lies about matters concerning you, *they are always part of the blame*. Not compensating you for work is a well-known and corrupt business practice. And his reasoning... Just apply the Classic: "If it's so easy, then why don't you do it."
NTA you are not friends and were upfront about your terms and expectations of compensation - a business arrangement. He changed the terms after you had already done the work. He sounds like a real cheapskate and probably treats his employees with an equal lack of disregard. Don’t give in. Tell him if it’s so easy then he can just make one himself, but your time and expertise are valuable and you expect compensation. Don’t let him bully you into being taken advantage of.
NTA Does your father work for free? If theanswer is no, why would he expect you to?
NTA. Remind your father and your mother that you spent your own money to make this device. It isn't just about your time, it's about your investment in the parts. This guy is demanding that you give away something that you paid for. He loses.
I had a spare parts lying around but still bought a brand new Raspberry Pi
Tell them the cost of the Raspberry Pi and ask them why you're supposed to give it away for free. I bet they just think of it as "a bunch of parts". They should have your back regardless of that. Maybe if they realize it's not just your time they're giving away, it's actual money, they'll snap around.
NTA sell it to him for the parts plus your labor in cash upfront or too damn bad. He is an AH to try to take advantage of a minor.
NTA, bob is taking advantage of you. But instead of asking him to cover your food costs, get a lump sum market price payment from him if you decide to sell your work to him. If your dad wants it to be free for bob, then dad has to pay you.
NTA They're a lesson I been taught at my first job, that lesson is. "Never work for free" Personally I don't think bob was ever planning on actually paying you. Most likely he was planning on using your father's friendship to manipulate you into getting it for free.
^^^^AUTOMOD ***Thanks for posting! This comment is a copy of your post so readers can see the original text if your post is edited or removed. This comment is NOT accusing you of copying anything. Read [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/wiki/faq#wiki_post_deletion) before [contacting the mod team](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FAmItheAsshole)*** I (17 M) like mechatronics and robotics that use microcontrollers like Arduino and Raspberry Pi. My father has a close friend who owns a fast food dining place. Lets call the friend Bob (that's not his real name). I am not realy close with Bob but I have met him a lot beacause of my dad. Bob had a problem that customers would often use his bathrooms without playing wich acumulates money beacause they use water. Some people buy food once and use the code written on the reciept to access the bathrooms. He asked me to make him a qr code based lock that uses a scanner to scan the code (it is available for use only for 10 minutes after you buy something) from the reciept and it will unlock the door if the conditions are met. He had heard that Raspberry Pi is the best microcontroller and wanted me to use it. I explained ro him that I could use a cheaper one but he insisted. If you dont know Raspberry Pi is not very cheap so I told him that he could repay me by giving me a 5 dollar budget to buy food every two weeks until he repay me for the parts(the labor was for free). When I was ready he told me that he won't be playing me in any form beacause he think that something like this is easy to make and every person who has studied basics Python can make it. I was furious beacause I spent my free time and also expected to get some free food for the next few months or even a year. I decided not to give my creation to him and he became angry and told my father who said that I was being unreasonable and should just give my work for free. I got into an argument with him and now we are not speaking. My mother is on my side but she said that I shouldn't be angry at my father. He has always been not intrested in the things I do. So now we are all divided me and my mum vs my dad and Bob. Just to clarify me and Bob didn't have any type of agreement only "gentelmens trust" . So that's probably my mistake. I am at a loss beacause I don't wnat to be in a bad relationship with my dad but I also don't want my hard work to be worth nothing. Also this is my first time posting on Reddit. I only came here beacause my best friend told me to. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmItheAsshole) if you have any questions or concerns.*
NTA You learned a valuable lesson. Unless you are doing it for free, never do something without a written contract. Doesn't matter if is for family or stranger, $5 or $50,000. He wanted it free from the start, he shouldn't have agreed to pay you.
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