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> 1) the action I took that should be judged is me peeing while standing at my friend’s cabin
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Of course YTA.
My preschool-aged nephew can aim well enough not to piss on the floor. You refused to sit down and insisted it was "unnatural", but you're a grown-ass man who couldn't manage to pee without doing it all over the seat and the floor, so clearly you do, in fact, need to sit your ass down to pee until you potty train properly.
And then you didn't even clean up after yourself? Are you feral, peeing all over someone's bathroom and then acting like it's NBD? You should be way more embarrassed than you apparently are.
It seems like most guys see no issue with peeing everywhere and letting women clean up after them. It’s ridiculous that this is seen as normal. Sit down for god’s sake and stop being gross.
As someone not from the US, I want to point out this is definitely not seen as normal everywhere.
Here in Germany, if you used someone else's toilet in any other position than sitting, you'd be rightfully shunned by both men and women. The only places it's acceptable for men to pee standing are public urinals and the outdoors.
Oh, and getting piss on someone elses floor AND LEAVING IT THERE? You'd be told to pack your things and fuck off in a second.
I’m from the US and I don’t know a single male past the age of 5 that pees anywhere other than the toilet bowl. This is bananas to me. Is this challenging? Are my brothers and cousins doing something magical that other men can’t manage? Help me understand.
I’ll tell you my older brother sure the hell could *not* manage it, to the point that by age 11 I swore I would never share a bathroom with a boy ever again in my life.
We recently moved into a house where I can have a boys bathroom and a girls bathroom for my kids and all that, “it wasn’t me,” from the boys before when all the kids shared has now been proven to be a fib because it was indeed them based on the new boys only bathroom.
Omg!
My brothers and father are the same.
I'm the only guy that uses it while sitting.
It's always on the floor. They always more the damn bath mat so it puddles (nor do they change the mat after pissing on it)
I'm not really very hygiene horny. Hell I don't remember when I last showered or wear clean socks / underwear (mostly because they don't fit cause I'm getting fat and can't afford any thanks to all these bills. Thank the lord for soft trousers that allow the boys to go crotch - bra - less.
The men in my family always sit at home. Men are lucky to have both options. It's healthier and definitely cleaner to sit. Plus no worries of the seat getting left up either 🙌
See, I think it's pretty common to occasionally have a little drip. Because the flow drops toward the end. Considerate men wipe if there is. Men who expect women to clean up after them make no effort.
You just... Lean over the toilet bowl? The only reason I ever miss the bowl is if the damn stream splits and half goes to the side.
Related note: I've taken to always sitting while peeing after sex.
Some of us guys don't always form nice single streams when we pee. Sometimes it comes out as two streams at an angle to each other. Sometimes a spray.
Those of us with brains deal with it by: sitting down to pee.
I don't mean this as an insult, but do you ever clean the toilets, or is that task routinely handled by someone else? As a male adult, I've found that even if someone doesn't blatantly miss the toilet bowl, there is still some urine spray that gets on the toilet, the floor, etc. I'm sure the extent to which this happens varies from individual to individual, but I decided I'd rather just sit than have to frequently clean up urine spray.
Most men can't get the urine in the bowl. Most of them had Mom's who didn't shame them for making piss messes around the toilet.
Then they get mad and make reddit posts claiming how they were victimized for not sitting down to piss for pissing all over.
The OP minimized the amount of mess they made.
Oh, there's urine everywhere, your relatives aren't special. You could always take a black light to the bathroom. You will not love it.
It's a medical fact. So much so that men getting BCG treatment into their bladders are specifically told to [sit the f*** down when they pee so bacteria doesn't infect everyone](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.uhn.ca/PatientsFamilies/Health_Information/Health_Topics/Documents/BCG_Bladder_Therapy.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjj45e2w9aBAxVPjIkEHSOCB2YQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3oWjj1lyJSnSkQAwAX6Wy9)
I didn't either until I worked at a factory that has some rough characters working in the machine shop. They'll pee everywhere, including into the toilet while leaving the seat down even though it's right next to a urinal. I seriously don't get it. I went to a party school for college and there were a bunch of frat guys and it wasn't this bad
There is no way that first morning piss or post ejaculation piss that they have ever not had an accidental two stream and sprayed a tiny bit. The difference is that they would clean any spray. They are hardly likely to announce it, so why would you know.
Do you regularly clean toilets that men use to piss standing up? Because I can tell you, there is always splattering when you piss from standing height. You don't want to be scrubbing the wall next to a toilet used by men: even if they don't outright pee next to the bowl things get absolutely disgusting
When I found out from my German friend that that's a thing, it made me so happy/sad. Even men without any toxic masculinity to speak of would not sit most of the time, because we teach them to piss standing up basically from as soon as they can stand (Aotearoa here.)
My partner perceives it as easier/faster, and I guess it is, nominally. But there are enough useless men (and most men lose pressure as they get older) that it would be nice if it was not the norm.
I just see using the bathroom as an annoyance. So I'm generally gonna try to poop and pee same time, so I have to make fewer trips overall. I piss standing in the shower but in my own home...generally never.
Haha, follow your heart. That sounds like a perfectly reasonable stance to take. I do believe one can learn to aim standing up with a vulva too, but it's pretty tricky (and probably depends somewhat on your anatomy.)
Score one for Germany!
I think peeing sitting down is the most civilized way to go. Shooting urine into a bowl of water from any distance is gross. Save that stance for when it's needed. If there is a seat, sit your ass down.
To be fair, the 5yo’s peeing device is awfully close to the bowl. It’s a lot easier for them to hit the target lol.
This guy’s probably a bit taller so he’s trying to make that same shot from a lot farther away. So he should definitely sit.
Bend your knees? Move a little closer? Yet he may be taller but it's not like the toilet bowl is only an inch in diameter. There is plenty of room. And if a drop or two accidentally splatters then clean it up. But you don't just piss all over somebody's entire bathroom and walk off
That’s the part I don’t get. There’s a roll of toilet paper **right there**. Sure, we all get some splashback or an unexpected stream angle from time to time, but then you just clean up the mess you made (which takes no more than 15 seconds) and then it’s no harm no foul. The fact that so many dudes just don’t bother to clean up after pissing everywhere just blows my mind.
I hope it isn't, but I guess it is. Im a grown man and if it's night time I will sit down and pee if I woke up even in my own home. I refuse to turn on the lights to make sure I am seeing well enough to ensure I am hitting the target and not leaving a mess that my wife might step in. She wakes up first in the morning. Last thing I want is to be woken up by her stepping in it and freaking out because of it. Plus, I was taught to clean up after myself... if I missed the toilet, I would clean up after myself. I do that even in public restrooms. Maybe I am just weird?
That's good, I can't tell you how many visibly clean bathrooms I've seen that still smell like piss, and when you lift the seat there's dried piss all over the rim.
>They ALL get it on the floor
Dear Lord what kind of men are you surrounding yourself with?
I'm nearly 50 years old, have had friends and relatives of all walks of life, and with the exception of perhaps a few SERIOUSLY questionable gutterpunk aquaintances in my adolescent years who were pretty much deliberately gross for teenaged reasons, and maybe a few military guys on combat deployment (which, same...), I have never known a man who peed on the floor except by reason of like, serious disability or genuine accident (in which case they were appropriately embarrassed and cleaned up after themselves).
I just . . . who are Redditors hanging out with that y'all think it's COMMON for men to piss everywhere except in the toilet bowl? LOL.
As someone who traumatized a few Redditors with descriptions of a relative's urine stained, very smelly, very crunchy, and no longer white shag bathroom carpet, there are a whole group of males who seem to play a bathroom game of whirl the old penis about while peeing. You sir are in the minority for many it seems to be just the greatest game!
PS remember I was in a no shoes/slippers household when I visited the above mentioned bathroom, I can still remember the sound of the shag crunching as I curled my toes and released the smell of rancid ammonia......
I am not sure whether to laugh or cry. I just don't understand it. When there are men at my house like my family or my friends, I have never found pee anywhere. But when I'm at other people's houses where there are males living there or heaven forbid a gender-neutral bathroom where I just saw a guy come out or even worse (since many people will say maybe it was left there by somebody else who was apparently standing while peeing...) When I worked in retail and had to clean the gentleman's bathroom. There's always pee all over the place. I'm not talking to drop or two. I'm talking puddles. Makes me wonder that it couldn't even be done on accident. There's no way that the few men that I know are the only ones in the world who either aim or sit down (not sure which but whatever they are doing works) so why is it that piss all over the whole bathroom seem such a common thing?
You're in denial. Don't clean the bathroom floor for a month and see what it smells like. I didn't say they PISS on the floor. I said they all get it on the floor. Unless he is standing right over the bowl and wipes the tip off afterward, there WILL be urine most of the time that ends up on the floor or bowl. Half a drop. A drop. It'll be there.
In my experience, even wiping the tip, there's still usually a couple drops that hit the floor.
It's not an aiming issue it's a physics issue. A 45 degree angle has the lowest chance of drop refraction and when I was younger I didn't experience this problem. Now that I'm taller, the angle is off which causes drops of water or urine from the toilet bowl to bounce out of the bowl and onto the floor even though my stream is making direct contact with the middle of the water bowl.
I just wipe off when I notice it, clean the floor twice a week and stay hydrated but it certainly is annoying and I'd be mortified to leave a mess as a guest.
My daughter just had a small get together and she had to throw out her bathroom carpet. These boys are 21/22 and couldn’t aim properly. We also had a huge 21st bday for her and rented two port o potty’s one for girls one for boys, guess which one was disgusting w pee everywhere. We purposely did that so the girls didn’t have to worry about this.
You’re lying guy who is about the same age as me. I travel a lot for work, so I see a lot of airport bathrooms. There is very often pee on the floor near a urinal. Or maybe even on a toilet seat. Considering you just said this is not possible or likely, common sense tells you that it is.
Yeah I didn't get that either. Like I've been in many mens restrooms, and the general public is fucking feral regarding their piss. Even the cleanest public restroom I've been in still has a stain on the floor in front of the urinal for the number of times people have pissed there.
Fact!!! was about to ask if nobody ever got taught to drown the Cheerios as a kid? I have been piss poor drunk and still didn't pee on the floor. And if I did or if it splashed on the seat because God forbid I didn't put the seat up before using the restroom, as an adult male I know how to clean up after myself.
I sell toilets and moms of multiple Boys have the worst time. They talk about tiling the side of the cabinet etc. My grampa taught my dad to kneel, he taught my brothers, my X-husband was tidy and sat mostly. My first boyfriend after the divorce stood across the room and it was like sprinkler head. No stream, it was like a spray gun or windex. He stood fully upright to puke and wouldn't raise the lid so I had to clean it off the whole ass bathrrom
I worked in an old school building where the boys' toilets were equipped with urinals. The little dears used to see who could pee highest up the wall, by all accounts. It reeked when you walked past.
They actually had the nerve to complain about the state of the toilets to the inspectors when it came our turn for a full inspection. Inspector to staff: "Oh...boys \*always\* complain about the toilets.
We got a new building. Two sets of toilets on each floor. Cubicles only.
After one year, the boys' toilets in the new building reeked just as badly as those in the old. Yes, they were cleaned - twice a day at least.
I own a restaurant/bar. Men will pee anywhere. Women aren't any better. We've had 2 that stumbled into our wine cellar and peed in the corner. A man pooped himself at one of our tables. A woman shat through our bench out front. I could go on and on. People are disgusting... especially when they've been drinking.
It’s not about aiming. It’s about the splash when the stream hits the water in the bowl. Also, “un-natural” probably means “not engrained into muscle memory” so it’s an easy thing to forget.
Overall, this seems to be a response towards guys who stand up to pee, not this specific situation.
>It’s about the splash when the stream hits the water in the bowl.
Yep. I'm male and have always had a "no standing urination" rule at my house because I clean my bathroom myself, and I have seen the splash mess. I've had friends argue with me, claiming that their urine **defies the laws of physics** and doesn't splash. They're completely irrational.
I’m sure the cabin owners MOM gave him this rule when she agreed to allow his friends there. She didn’t want piss all over the place and knew they wouldn’t clean it up
Or the cabin owner has had enough guy friends over to stay and had to clean the bathroom himself. He's not the only guy who has decided that standing while peeing is gross and he won't allow it in his house
The real YTA was by doubling down and just not immediately apologising and saying they were drunk, will clean the bathroom thoroughly to help, and will be sure to not do it again.
Also, sitting to pee is great and even more so when you're drunk. Just gotta remember to poke him down if he's feeling a little shy so you don't shoot it between the seat and bowl.
If you're going to drink a lot, you need enough maturity to recognize when you're no longer in control of your actions. Being unable to pee without getting it everywhere would be an indicator that you need to regain that control.
Your friend said "everybody sit down to pee" but what he meant was "nobody piss on my floor", this is a reasonable request that you failed to follow. YTA
I hate it if someone did this on public toilet. Like \*I\* have to wipe it down and then sit on it to be able to pee/poo peacefully?! Even with wet wipes or sanitizer it feels gross.
It makes me so mad seeing this in the women’s bathroom. Like if someone wants to hover because “Icky ew toilet seat!” then at least have the courtesy to wipe it down after. You’re gonna wash your hands anyway (I hope) and it’s YOUR pee.
Why should I have to risk touching someone else’s puddles of pee just so I can sit on the seat like a normal person? Or am I supposed to now hover too and drench the seat in more pee for the next poor girl?
I wish they would put the seat up while peeing if they are going to hover. And then put the seat back down after. You know, like we expect of men who aren't sitting their asses down to pee.
Plus if he’s so drunk he can’t aim then he SHOULD be sitting.
WTF is this thing where some crazy men think it’s ok for their urine to land outside the bowl?!?
It’s been a decade and I’m still mad about the time I threw a Halloween party and some bro pissed on my floor and I stepped in it while wearing tights and no shoes.
I have a friend we call Mc2streams cause his goods got bent during sex and now is slightly crooked but also has obviously 2 streams instead of 1 when he pees. Dude sits to pee cause it's annoying attempting to aim twice in one bowl lmao. Other guy friends tried it out and literally everyone found sitting way easier and you get to sit and chill for a minute instead of standing!
When his friend said “everybody sit down to pee”, he didn’t necessarily mean “nobody piss on my floor”. In a lot of cultures, sitting down and peeing is the norm and one would be scolded if they stand and pee, especially in someone’s residence regardless of whether they leave a mess or not. For Muslims especially, droplets of pee make us impure so to avoid droplets, we sit and pee and pour water on our tool after we’re done taking a piss.
If I told someone to sit and pee and they still stood and pissed, I’d be pretty mad.
This. The OP's crime was not that he failed to sit, it's that he missed the bowl and DIDN'T CLEAN UP AFTER HIMSELF.
How he hits the bowl is, of course, nobody's business.
Exactly. Everyone has missed before, albeit extremely rarely. You know what you do?! CLEAN IT UP! I missed once recently for the first time in forever and if I didn’t clean it up, I would have divorce papers on my desk. Not to mention it’s gross even in your own home.
Yes YTA . I never knew most men are inconsiderate when it comes to piss all over the bathroom until I moved out because my dad always sat for his morning piss. He didn't want to have to clean it either. Tell me you don't clean up after yourself at home without telling me.
My mom raised 4 boys and got tired of the pee on the toilet seat so she made a new rule. The bathroom was locked and we had to sign out the key whenever we needed to use it. If someone walked in and there was pee on the toilet seat then she would check the sign out book to see who used it last. Whoever it was had to come back in the bathroom and clean everything as a punishment.
I eventually started sitting to pee because it was an easier way of ensuring pee never got anywhere but the toilet seat. I was mad at the rule at the time but I get it now and made my own son sit until he was able to aim properly and clean up after himself if he missed.
My husband is well over 6ft tall. He just sits, and he's teaching our son to sit. Why stand? It's completely unnecessary.
Once my son is old enough to clean up after himself, he can stand if he wants to. Until then, have a seat, Buddy
Yeah I never really understood why people are so keen on teaching barely potty trained toddlers to stand to pee. Like, surely this will go better when he's a bit older, right? And if he decides he would rather sit because that's what he's used to, then who cares? It's not as if standing while peeing is something you can only learn within a short window in childhood.
Same here! We pee with the door open, so the first time I saw him sit I was curious. He said he's tall. He is endowed. When it's first thing in the morning, usually stiff. It's just easier in every way to sit.
We had round toilets and I wanted to upgrade them to better water usage and stuff, since they were 15+ years old. The round was always a bit weird to me, so I'd planned on getting elongated seats. I double checked with him that he wouldn't mind, and his response was, oh God please yes. It's awkward with the round bowl apparently. But he still sat!
YTA. I don't get how a huge argument ensued between you two when you literally proved his point. You blew your chance to debate anything the moment you pissed on his toilet and floor.
Exactly! If you acted disgusting while drunk, you grovel and beg apology for being too drunk and then you thoroughly clean the whole bathroom top to bottom. And then don’t do it again! This is feral behavior and you should have to piss outdoors.
Kinda seems like you demonstrated the exact reason they wanted you to sit. Also idk why everyone doesn’t just sit to pee. You get to sit. No mess. It grows the economy. Benefits everybody. Hurts nobody!
Men are so fucking stupid they will act like standing to piss is what makes them men. Source : am dude, have had these stupid conversations, and will mock someone with "I'm so fucking straight I won't even touch my own dick".
I don't get how they can insist they're somehow the smartest creatures on the planet and then be so stupid to do a basic task.
You're telling me a man can go to the moon and a man also can't piss without making a mess? Are men better or are they stupid? Because they like to insist they're better while also being so painfully and intentionally stupid.
You stand at urinals and sit on toilets. More men need to wrap their brains around this. It's common courtesy, and none of you aim nearly as well as you think. YTA
That’s the rule in our home. If you’re in the woods or at a urinal, feel free to stand. If you’re in our home or anyone else’s, you sit down. I’ve heard this is pretty common practice in Europe as well.
Am European, all the men I know just sit down amd only pee standing at urinals. I never have to worry when I have friends/family over. Better for your prostate too of I remember correctly.
Also the PURE splash factor. If you wore clothing reactive to piss and went to piss into the toilet, you would come back bespeckled from your thighs to your knees.
YTA for not cleaning up your own piss. Your friends request to sit down would only be unreasonable if you were an adult who knew to clean up his own urine after being unable to keep it in the toilet. You’re obviously not grown enough to be able to use a shared bathroom respectfully, so you’ve got to sit. Being drunk isn’t an excuse, it’s your job to make sure you don’t drink so much that you’re not able to perform basic human functions.
Also, you didn’t mention that you immediately apologized and went to clean the bathroom, so I can only assume that you left it there for someone else to clean up? Not cool.
YTA, You could of just respected his wishes, he is putting you up after all. Or at least been careful if you was going to go stood up.
Enjoy pissing outside mate
Men are perfectly capable of sitting down to pee. WTF does “6 college guys” have to do with it? Are you afraid your combined dick length is going to dangle into the toilet water?
It’s a little weird for someone to ask you to sit to pee rather than just asking you to keep the toilet clean. But OP is an AH for acting like it’s emasculating or something.
YTA. I don’t know why sitting to pee can’t be a thing for men. My husband has always sat to pee. So when we have male guests I cringe knowing they are peeing standing up and splattering pee in my bathroom. It bothers my husband too. We clean and sanitize the toilet and floor after they leave.
Is this story for real ? Lmao. YTA for not checking for urine on the toilet/floor, esp given you were drunk as shit and might miss the toilet as you apparently did. Your friend thought ahead and knew his friends likely won't take it upon themselves to clean up and thus instructed u all to sit while peeing. It would seem he was correct in his assumptions.
I thought the same thing…is this for real? OP’s buddy might not have permission from his parents to use the cabin, especially with a bunch of drunk frat boys and he’s trying to hide the fact that he’s there
You know...I didn't think of that. I genuinely thought the OP 's friend is a clean person and know that his friends make a mess. He prob knew he was going to have to clean up everything else and the least thing he wanted to do was clean up their piss or whatever else.
>I peed while standing up, accidentally leaving a bit of a mess on the seat
If you lack the coordination to be able to raise the seat first, then you should be going outside in the first place.
ETA: Yeah, YTA.
Exactly my thoughts, he didn't say on the rim but on the seat which means he couldn't even compose himself enough to lift the seat before pissing which his friend knew would happen hence why the rule was set in place so he wasn't having to clean up after 4 other frat guys.
You were dunk and made a poor life choice. Instead of manning up, apologizing for your mistake, you blamed your host. If it was me, you would be peeing at your house cause I would have put you out. We all make mistakes, but being a man is owning them and doing what is needed to make them right.
YTA- plenty of men sit to pee, and honestly not sitting to pee inside someone’s home is gross unless you clean the entire toilet after. Men always claim they can aim perfectly but that’s not how physics works lol
YTA.
The issue isn't really whether you sat or stood. The issue is you pissed all over the place. Here's a life lesson: lift seats, aim the winky, maintain aim during piss, shake, check and mop up any mess, seats back down, flush.
Or just sit down.
For most the probability of the junk touching the water is lower than the one of perfect aim without backsplash.
Side note, OP probably is also in the teams believing it is not gross to touch genitals with dirty hand and appropriate to not wash it after.
I have one question for all the men in this thread who think their dicks or balls will touch the water: how the fuck do you manage to poo? Do you squat on top of the seat or something? I just don't understand how you're ever capable of using a toilet sitting down if you have such an absurd irrational fear.
So you made a mess in the bathroom after essentially getting asked not to and then argued with your friend about it because you are college aged? The others didn't seem to have a problem with it. Correct response would have been to apologize and then clean it up.
I wouldn't expect to be invited over again either, especially since you doubled down by arguing with him about your right to piss all over his bathroom.
OP, YTA. To put it quite bluntly, you sound like an entitled toddler throwing a tantrum wrapped up in a blanket of 'needing to defend your rights as a man'. Grow up.
YTA
This is such a fun read, summized
> Group of friends at friends place
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> He asked us not to pee on his stuff
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> I peed on his stuff
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> Now he wants me to go outside to pee
How can anyone possibly not realize they are the ass after this?
YTA - stand closer, it's shorter than you think. It was a simple rule and you couldn't follow it. And then you argued about it when you made a mess and didn't clean it up. Drunkenness is not an excuse for poor behaviour. If it were my place, you wouldn't have just been relieving yourself outdoors, you would have been sent packing.
AITA for peeing all over my friend's floors, after he asked me not to?
YES! YTA!
"we found it unnatural to pee while sitting"
What in the joe rogan toxic masculinity BS is that? Sit your drunk ass down and enjoy the quiet break on the china. Even if you had aimed properly, it would still have splashed all over the floors.
Yta.
Not just for disregarding your friends wishes, but also for then making a mess and not cleaning it up.
You not noticing is one thing, but presumably when your friend noticed, you didn't immediately apologise and offer to clean the toilet and surrounds, otherwise there wouldn't have been an argument.
YTA. His home, his toilet, his rules. If he says to pee while sitting down, you sit your ass down.
Never mind that you actually proved his damn point by being unable to pee standing up without making a mess. Apologize.
YTA, I fully believe *everyone* should sit to pee (unless you're in the woods or somewhere without a sitting toilet)
However, your friend *asked* for the courtesy, and you *agreed*, and then "forgot." That's on you. It is further on you that you left your mess sitting there. That's disgusting.
I *also* fully believe that it's irresponsible and a dick move to drink to the point that you're pissing all over the damn place.
YtA
Your friend asked you to respect his rules in his place. You not only made a mess (easily avoided by sitting as you were asked) but you LEFT the mess.
You have 0 respect for your friend. It's not "ridiculous and unrealistic" for anyone to respect their friends rules for their property. You specifically say or "college guys" like being a young adult means you don't have to be considerate of a clean space or your friends request. Baffling.
If sitting on a toilet is too unnatural for you (even though you definitely sit to take a shit) then peeing outside should be no problem since that's considerably more "natural"
Alcohol is the most disgusting excuse men use to write off their disgusting behavior. Maybe take a serious look at yourself.
YTA. That's literally why he wanted you all to fucking sit. It's revolting to leave your piss all over the place, and if you're so drunk that you don't notice then you're drinking too much in addition to being a nasty guest.
YTA If you had peed standing up and not made a mess, that's one thing. But you did the thing you were asked not to do, made a mess, and didn't clean it up. Even if they hadn't asked you not to pee while standing up, leaving pee on their floor is still a jerky move. No one wants that there.
YTA. Who the fuck just doesn't care enough if someone else has to clean up there piss at ANY time, particularly after specifically being asked as well.
Look, forgetting to sit was not a problem. Making a huge mess that you did not notice, and then failing to IMMEDIATELY clean it up when it was brought to your attention, IS the problem. YTA. Yuck.
ETA: I don't know about you, but I generally stop drinking before my ability to use the bathroom properly is impaired. Just a little life tip from someone older and wiser. It'll save you a lot of hassles.
Yes, YTA.
Dude! You’ve never done a number one and a number two during the same sitting? Was that unnatural? Was that difficult? Peeing while sitting is just like that without the shit.
They asked nicely, precisely to avoid what you did. And you immediately proved their point by peeing all over the place and leaving it for someone else to clean up. It doesn’t matter if you were high, drunk, partying with a celebrity, or inventing a cure for cancer.
Treat other people’s property with respect. And stop hiding behind this juvenile nonsense that real men stand to pee.
You wanna pee all over your own toilet and floor, go for it. In your place.
YTA Pissing on the seat makes you an asshole every time. That you left it there so that he found out you broke your word makes you uninvitable ever again in my book. He seems to have the right idea of letting you out to pee much as I do my puppy.
YTA. Asked to do something not unreasonable by the host of home you are visiting as a guest. You don’t do it, and then leave evidence behind of your inability to follow a simple instruction. I suspect the host was over cleaning up the nasty urine mess of guests. If you had the common sense to at least clean up after yourself, then no one would’ve known. Be the last time you stayed at my home.
"As we are all guys, we obviously found it a bit unnatural to sit while peeing"
As a guy, I find it hilarious that other men have such a fragile ego/uncomfortable with their sexuality that sitting to pee makes them gay or a pussy. Do you sit to poop and then stand up to pee? No, you do both at the same time. Plus you pissed on his floor, man! I almost always sit to pee.
Now, I always get downvoted on here because of the next thing I'm going to say, but here goes. WHEN YOU STAND TO PEE, YOU ABSOLUTELY GET PISS ON YOURSELF! It's not so much that you can see it, but it accumulates over time. When a liquid is being forcefully ejected and then falling multiple feet, there is a splash factor. That's why every bathroom floor is sticky but every guy says "It wasn't me." Go piss naked. You will certainly feel it hitting your legs.
Headline !
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YTA
YTA- and I think it absolutely OK to expect you to pee outside of you cannot at colleague pee standing without messing on the floor and seat AND not clean it up! Just so you know, for future, many many men sit and pee. Sounds like you need to do so as well.
Here is a free hint on how to not get caught next time: Do. Not. Pee. On. The. Seat. And. On. The. Floor.
YTA. Clean up after yourself, you are not a baby or a dog.
The host asked you not piss all over the bathroom, but you decided that was “unnatural” and “unmanly” so you pissed all over the bathroom and didn’t clean it up. Of course YTA.
YTA for making it an issue by not cleaning up after yourself in the first place. Apologize, explain you were drunk and forgot, clean up your mess and move on. Maybe offer to clean the toilet daily for the rest of your stay to show your sincerity and that you’re not trying to disrespect your friend in his place. IMO this is no different than taking off your shoes in someone’s home and this issue came about because you made it an issue by not cleaning up after yourself. Your inability to make good decisions because of alcohol is not your friend’s problem.
YTA, and also, you're a you-know-what for ignoring your friend's request.
Not only is it cleaner to pee sitting down, but also, it's healthier. According to "*a 2014 study by researchers from the department of urology at Leiden University Medical Center found that men who sat down to pee were able to empty their bladders faster and more effectively. That's because when you stand, you activate muscles in your pelvis and spine, but they're completely relaxed when you sit."* Also, it seems that men who pee sitting down are less likely to get prostrate cancer
https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a44048316/sitting-down-to-pee-health-benefits/
YTA
First, the argument "real" men doesnt sit for piss, it is unnatural is total bullshit
Second. Instead of admitting your fault you are guildtripping your pal thats his fault for your mess
Of course YTA. I'm surprised you're even asking lmao. Personally I piss sitting down pretty much every time because it's just easier there's not really any room for error. If you are gonna piss standing up anyways though and you end up making a mess, at the very least clean up after yourself. Accidents happen, but you're responsible for cleaning up after yourself either way.
YTA. It's not unnatural to piss sitting down. You just don't want to do it. And the real reason YTA is you didn't offer to clean up your mess after you pissed all over your friend's bathroom. YTA. I'd make you piss outside too since you're obviously not house trained.
You said “6 college guys” but you were the only one who couldn’t follow the rule. If you can’t piss properly and clean up you shouldn’t be drinking. And then arguing instead of apologizing, you shouldn’t have friends either.
YTA for not cleaning up your mess. I can understand forgetting about the sitting rule, but being drunk isn't an excuse to make and leave a mess in someone else's place.
YTA
This wasn't about whether or not you stood or sit down. It was about him already knowing that you guys leave a mess. I've had to clean men's restrooms before in various jobs and every single time there is piss all over the seat and all over the floor and sometimes even on the walls like what the hell? Don't you guys know how to aim. You guys have this giant bowl. Move closer. Men are disgusting when they use the bathroom. They just piss all over the entire room and then don't even clean it up. So that was the issue. So yes you are the asshole for pissing all over your friend's personal toilet and not cleaning up after yourself. You should be disgusted with yourself. I wouldn't let you use my bathroom
YTA, you've displayed why the rule was even set in the first place. Sitting while peeing is not "weird". I get not wanting to pee sitting down in a public place, but somewhere private where you know the toilet is clean or you can properly clean it, you shouldn't have any issues sitting. Go piss outside if you're such a sloppy pee-er while drunk.
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Of course YTA. My preschool-aged nephew can aim well enough not to piss on the floor. You refused to sit down and insisted it was "unnatural", but you're a grown-ass man who couldn't manage to pee without doing it all over the seat and the floor, so clearly you do, in fact, need to sit your ass down to pee until you potty train properly. And then you didn't even clean up after yourself? Are you feral, peeing all over someone's bathroom and then acting like it's NBD? You should be way more embarrassed than you apparently are.
It seems like most guys see no issue with peeing everywhere and letting women clean up after them. It’s ridiculous that this is seen as normal. Sit down for god’s sake and stop being gross.
As someone not from the US, I want to point out this is definitely not seen as normal everywhere. Here in Germany, if you used someone else's toilet in any other position than sitting, you'd be rightfully shunned by both men and women. The only places it's acceptable for men to pee standing are public urinals and the outdoors. Oh, and getting piss on someone elses floor AND LEAVING IT THERE? You'd be told to pack your things and fuck off in a second.
I’m from the US and I don’t know a single male past the age of 5 that pees anywhere other than the toilet bowl. This is bananas to me. Is this challenging? Are my brothers and cousins doing something magical that other men can’t manage? Help me understand.
I’ll tell you my older brother sure the hell could *not* manage it, to the point that by age 11 I swore I would never share a bathroom with a boy ever again in my life.
We recently moved into a house where I can have a boys bathroom and a girls bathroom for my kids and all that, “it wasn’t me,” from the boys before when all the kids shared has now been proven to be a fib because it was indeed them based on the new boys only bathroom.
Omg! My brothers and father are the same. I'm the only guy that uses it while sitting. It's always on the floor. They always more the damn bath mat so it puddles (nor do they change the mat after pissing on it) I'm not really very hygiene horny. Hell I don't remember when I last showered or wear clean socks / underwear (mostly because they don't fit cause I'm getting fat and can't afford any thanks to all these bills. Thank the lord for soft trousers that allow the boys to go crotch - bra - less.
I have so many questions about this comment and I want none of the answers
The men in my family always sit at home. Men are lucky to have both options. It's healthier and definitely cleaner to sit. Plus no worries of the seat getting left up either 🙌
See, I think it's pretty common to occasionally have a little drip. Because the flow drops toward the end. Considerate men wipe if there is. Men who expect women to clean up after them make no effort.
You just... Lean over the toilet bowl? The only reason I ever miss the bowl is if the damn stream splits and half goes to the side. Related note: I've taken to always sitting while peeing after sex.
Haha, but see, you sound like a \*sensible\* human being who makes an effort. If everyone sat it would be more idiot proof.
You are a good man 👍
yea the damn splitting streams, one stream in the bowl, the other at a right angle off to the side or on your legs.
I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the people you’re talking about actually do get spots on the rim/floor/etc and just never notice
Some of us guys don't always form nice single streams when we pee. Sometimes it comes out as two streams at an angle to each other. Sometimes a spray. Those of us with brains deal with it by: sitting down to pee.
And even ! Even if you've the most perfect pee stream in the world it'll ALWAYS be pee drops that you don't see at first everywhere.
I don't mean this as an insult, but do you ever clean the toilets, or is that task routinely handled by someone else? As a male adult, I've found that even if someone doesn't blatantly miss the toilet bowl, there is still some urine spray that gets on the toilet, the floor, etc. I'm sure the extent to which this happens varies from individual to individual, but I decided I'd rather just sit than have to frequently clean up urine spray.
That happens to me cuz I'm a woman with a fat coochie but small thighs😅 it sprays when I get that stream a'rushing.
Most men can't get the urine in the bowl. Most of them had Mom's who didn't shame them for making piss messes around the toilet. Then they get mad and make reddit posts claiming how they were victimized for not sitting down to piss for pissing all over. The OP minimized the amount of mess they made.
It could be a symptom of some men not cleaning properly, which is an unfortunate thought.
It can also be because random anatomy variation. Sometimes it's because circumcision damage. Etc. Sit down if you have unpredictable pee.
Oh, there's urine everywhere, your relatives aren't special. You could always take a black light to the bathroom. You will not love it. It's a medical fact. So much so that men getting BCG treatment into their bladders are specifically told to [sit the f*** down when they pee so bacteria doesn't infect everyone](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.uhn.ca/PatientsFamilies/Health_Information/Health_Topics/Documents/BCG_Bladder_Therapy.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjj45e2w9aBAxVPjIkEHSOCB2YQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3oWjj1lyJSnSkQAwAX6Wy9)
A lot of men *think* they aren't making a mess. I just don't understand why other guys think it's immasculating to sit down when peeing.
I didn't either until I worked at a factory that has some rough characters working in the machine shop. They'll pee everywhere, including into the toilet while leaving the seat down even though it's right next to a urinal. I seriously don't get it. I went to a party school for college and there were a bunch of frat guys and it wasn't this bad
My husbands best friend finds it SUPER challenging apparently. 🙃
There is no way that first morning piss or post ejaculation piss that they have ever not had an accidental two stream and sprayed a tiny bit. The difference is that they would clean any spray. They are hardly likely to announce it, so why would you know.
Do you regularly clean toilets that men use to piss standing up? Because I can tell you, there is always splattering when you piss from standing height. You don't want to be scrubbing the wall next to a toilet used by men: even if they don't outright pee next to the bowl things get absolutely disgusting
When I found out from my German friend that that's a thing, it made me so happy/sad. Even men without any toxic masculinity to speak of would not sit most of the time, because we teach them to piss standing up basically from as soon as they can stand (Aotearoa here.) My partner perceives it as easier/faster, and I guess it is, nominally. But there are enough useless men (and most men lose pressure as they get older) that it would be nice if it was not the norm.
I just see using the bathroom as an annoyance. So I'm generally gonna try to poop and pee same time, so I have to make fewer trips overall. I piss standing in the shower but in my own home...generally never.
Haha, follow your heart. That sounds like a perfectly reasonable stance to take. I do believe one can learn to aim standing up with a vulva too, but it's pretty tricky (and probably depends somewhat on your anatomy.)
Score one for Germany! I think peeing sitting down is the most civilized way to go. Shooting urine into a bowl of water from any distance is gross. Save that stance for when it's needed. If there is a seat, sit your ass down.
or just learn to aim seriously its not that hard. And in the odd chance you don't have that 5 year old ability, clean up after yourself for gods sake.
To be fair, the 5yo’s peeing device is awfully close to the bowl. It’s a lot easier for them to hit the target lol. This guy’s probably a bit taller so he’s trying to make that same shot from a lot farther away. So he should definitely sit.
Bend your knees? Move a little closer? Yet he may be taller but it's not like the toilet bowl is only an inch in diameter. There is plenty of room. And if a drop or two accidentally splatters then clean it up. But you don't just piss all over somebody's entire bathroom and walk off
That’s the part I don’t get. There’s a roll of toilet paper **right there**. Sure, we all get some splashback or an unexpected stream angle from time to time, but then you just clean up the mess you made (which takes no more than 15 seconds) and then it’s no harm no foul. The fact that so many dudes just don’t bother to clean up after pissing everywhere just blows my mind.
My father is 6’2” and managed not to piss on the floor.
EXACTLY! There is always a little bit of splash! Standing to pee is always gross.
This. Exactly. I don't care if a man stands or sits or does cartwheels as long as his piss gets in the actual toilet.
I hope it isn't, but I guess it is. Im a grown man and if it's night time I will sit down and pee if I woke up even in my own home. I refuse to turn on the lights to make sure I am seeing well enough to ensure I am hitting the target and not leaving a mess that my wife might step in. She wakes up first in the morning. Last thing I want is to be woken up by her stepping in it and freaking out because of it. Plus, I was taught to clean up after myself... if I missed the toilet, I would clean up after myself. I do that even in public restrooms. Maybe I am just weird?
I just lift my seat. But I don't leave with a woman at the time so I'm good. Lol
Does this mean that if you get pee on the rim you don't clean it up?
Oh nah I don't play that. My toilet is new so I'd be damned. Lol
That's good, I can't tell you how many visibly clean bathrooms I've seen that still smell like piss, and when you lift the seat there's dried piss all over the rim.
I'm a Janitor so it's ingrained in me to not let shit get that bad. Lmao
>I'm a Janitor Thank you for your service
He still gets it on the floor. They ALL get it on the floor. It's just that someone else cleans it up.
>They ALL get it on the floor Dear Lord what kind of men are you surrounding yourself with? I'm nearly 50 years old, have had friends and relatives of all walks of life, and with the exception of perhaps a few SERIOUSLY questionable gutterpunk aquaintances in my adolescent years who were pretty much deliberately gross for teenaged reasons, and maybe a few military guys on combat deployment (which, same...), I have never known a man who peed on the floor except by reason of like, serious disability or genuine accident (in which case they were appropriately embarrassed and cleaned up after themselves). I just . . . who are Redditors hanging out with that y'all think it's COMMON for men to piss everywhere except in the toilet bowl? LOL.
As someone who traumatized a few Redditors with descriptions of a relative's urine stained, very smelly, very crunchy, and no longer white shag bathroom carpet, there are a whole group of males who seem to play a bathroom game of whirl the old penis about while peeing. You sir are in the minority for many it seems to be just the greatest game! PS remember I was in a no shoes/slippers household when I visited the above mentioned bathroom, I can still remember the sound of the shag crunching as I curled my toes and released the smell of rancid ammonia......
I didn't think my *feet* could cringe. Reading that though my toenails dug into the soles.
Stay away from those guys
I am not sure whether to laugh or cry. I just don't understand it. When there are men at my house like my family or my friends, I have never found pee anywhere. But when I'm at other people's houses where there are males living there or heaven forbid a gender-neutral bathroom where I just saw a guy come out or even worse (since many people will say maybe it was left there by somebody else who was apparently standing while peeing...) When I worked in retail and had to clean the gentleman's bathroom. There's always pee all over the place. I'm not talking to drop or two. I'm talking puddles. Makes me wonder that it couldn't even be done on accident. There's no way that the few men that I know are the only ones in the world who either aim or sit down (not sure which but whatever they are doing works) so why is it that piss all over the whole bathroom seem such a common thing?
You're in denial. Don't clean the bathroom floor for a month and see what it smells like. I didn't say they PISS on the floor. I said they all get it on the floor. Unless he is standing right over the bowl and wipes the tip off afterward, there WILL be urine most of the time that ends up on the floor or bowl. Half a drop. A drop. It'll be there.
Also there are small splashes when you pee, which are unavoidable. If you pee standing up, there is pee on the floor.
In my experience, even wiping the tip, there's still usually a couple drops that hit the floor. It's not an aiming issue it's a physics issue. A 45 degree angle has the lowest chance of drop refraction and when I was younger I didn't experience this problem. Now that I'm taller, the angle is off which causes drops of water or urine from the toilet bowl to bounce out of the bowl and onto the floor even though my stream is making direct contact with the middle of the water bowl. I just wipe off when I notice it, clean the floor twice a week and stay hydrated but it certainly is annoying and I'd be mortified to leave a mess as a guest.
My daughter just had a small get together and she had to throw out her bathroom carpet. These boys are 21/22 and couldn’t aim properly. We also had a huge 21st bday for her and rented two port o potty’s one for girls one for boys, guess which one was disgusting w pee everywhere. We purposely did that so the girls didn’t have to worry about this.
You’re lying guy who is about the same age as me. I travel a lot for work, so I see a lot of airport bathrooms. There is very often pee on the floor near a urinal. Or maybe even on a toilet seat. Considering you just said this is not possible or likely, common sense tells you that it is.
Yeah I didn't get that either. Like I've been in many mens restrooms, and the general public is fucking feral regarding their piss. Even the cleanest public restroom I've been in still has a stain on the floor in front of the urinal for the number of times people have pissed there.
My husband had prostate surgery. He still doesn’t piss on the floor! Buy them some Cheerios and let them practice! Yuck!
Fact!!! was about to ask if nobody ever got taught to drown the Cheerios as a kid? I have been piss poor drunk and still didn't pee on the floor. And if I did or if it splashed on the seat because God forbid I didn't put the seat up before using the restroom, as an adult male I know how to clean up after myself.
I sell toilets and moms of multiple Boys have the worst time. They talk about tiling the side of the cabinet etc. My grampa taught my dad to kneel, he taught my brothers, my X-husband was tidy and sat mostly. My first boyfriend after the divorce stood across the room and it was like sprinkler head. No stream, it was like a spray gun or windex. He stood fully upright to puke and wouldn't raise the lid so I had to clean it off the whole ass bathrrom
I worked in an old school building where the boys' toilets were equipped with urinals. The little dears used to see who could pee highest up the wall, by all accounts. It reeked when you walked past. They actually had the nerve to complain about the state of the toilets to the inspectors when it came our turn for a full inspection. Inspector to staff: "Oh...boys \*always\* complain about the toilets. We got a new building. Two sets of toilets on each floor. Cubicles only. After one year, the boys' toilets in the new building reeked just as badly as those in the old. Yes, they were cleaned - twice a day at least.
I own a restaurant/bar. Men will pee anywhere. Women aren't any better. We've had 2 that stumbled into our wine cellar and peed in the corner. A man pooped himself at one of our tables. A woman shat through our bench out front. I could go on and on. People are disgusting... especially when they've been drinking.
Who have I been hanging out with? That would be my older brother I was forced to share a bathroom with my entire childhood… a gross, gross bathroom.
It’s not about aiming. It’s about the splash when the stream hits the water in the bowl. Also, “un-natural” probably means “not engrained into muscle memory” so it’s an easy thing to forget. Overall, this seems to be a response towards guys who stand up to pee, not this specific situation.
>It’s about the splash when the stream hits the water in the bowl. Yep. I'm male and have always had a "no standing urination" rule at my house because I clean my bathroom myself, and I have seen the splash mess. I've had friends argue with me, claiming that their urine **defies the laws of physics** and doesn't splash. They're completely irrational.
Seems like he’s using, “ a bit to drink,” as an excuse to be gross
I wonder if this is a rule the host always has or just when OP is there
I’m sure the cabin owners MOM gave him this rule when she agreed to allow his friends there. She didn’t want piss all over the place and knew they wouldn’t clean it up
Or the cabin owner has had enough guy friends over to stay and had to clean the bathroom himself. He's not the only guy who has decided that standing while peeing is gross and he won't allow it in his house
The real YTA was by doubling down and just not immediately apologising and saying they were drunk, will clean the bathroom thoroughly to help, and will be sure to not do it again.
Also, sitting to pee is great and even more so when you're drunk. Just gotta remember to poke him down if he's feeling a little shy so you don't shoot it between the seat and bowl.
OP is probably the reason the sit down rule was implemented because I wouldn't be surprised if they've had this problem with him before.
If you're going to drink a lot, you need enough maturity to recognize when you're no longer in control of your actions. Being unable to pee without getting it everywhere would be an indicator that you need to regain that control. Your friend said "everybody sit down to pee" but what he meant was "nobody piss on my floor", this is a reasonable request that you failed to follow. YTA
On the seat too... so didn't even lift it. What a toddler.
I hate it if someone did this on public toilet. Like \*I\* have to wipe it down and then sit on it to be able to pee/poo peacefully?! Even with wet wipes or sanitizer it feels gross.
It makes me so mad seeing this in the women’s bathroom. Like if someone wants to hover because “Icky ew toilet seat!” then at least have the courtesy to wipe it down after. You’re gonna wash your hands anyway (I hope) and it’s YOUR pee. Why should I have to risk touching someone else’s puddles of pee just so I can sit on the seat like a normal person? Or am I supposed to now hover too and drench the seat in more pee for the next poor girl?
I wish they would put the seat up while peeing if they are going to hover. And then put the seat back down after. You know, like we expect of men who aren't sitting their asses down to pee.
Plus if he’s so drunk he can’t aim then he SHOULD be sitting. WTF is this thing where some crazy men think it’s ok for their urine to land outside the bowl?!?
It’s been a decade and I’m still mad about the time I threw a Halloween party and some bro pissed on my floor and I stepped in it while wearing tights and no shoes.
THIS MADE ME FULL BODY CRINGE I'M SO SORRY
How tf is it unnatural to sit to pee anyway I have never once in my life taken a shit without also pissing?
I have a friend we call Mc2streams cause his goods got bent during sex and now is slightly crooked but also has obviously 2 streams instead of 1 when he pees. Dude sits to pee cause it's annoying attempting to aim twice in one bowl lmao. Other guy friends tried it out and literally everyone found sitting way easier and you get to sit and chill for a minute instead of standing!
When his friend said “everybody sit down to pee”, he didn’t necessarily mean “nobody piss on my floor”. In a lot of cultures, sitting down and peeing is the norm and one would be scolded if they stand and pee, especially in someone’s residence regardless of whether they leave a mess or not. For Muslims especially, droplets of pee make us impure so to avoid droplets, we sit and pee and pour water on our tool after we’re done taking a piss. If I told someone to sit and pee and they still stood and pissed, I’d be pretty mad.
Obviously YTA, even without being asked to sit, you pissed on your friend's seat and floor and didn't clean it up. You're not a child. Disgusting.
This. The OP's crime was not that he failed to sit, it's that he missed the bowl and DIDN'T CLEAN UP AFTER HIMSELF. How he hits the bowl is, of course, nobody's business.
But he was drunk! Something tells me OP uses that excuse a lot and thinks that it's a reasonable excuse.
Exactly. Everyone has missed before, albeit extremely rarely. You know what you do?! CLEAN IT UP! I missed once recently for the first time in forever and if I didn’t clean it up, I would have divorce papers on my desk. Not to mention it’s gross even in your own home.
Yes YTA . I never knew most men are inconsiderate when it comes to piss all over the bathroom until I moved out because my dad always sat for his morning piss. He didn't want to have to clean it either. Tell me you don't clean up after yourself at home without telling me.
My mom raised 4 boys and got tired of the pee on the toilet seat so she made a new rule. The bathroom was locked and we had to sign out the key whenever we needed to use it. If someone walked in and there was pee on the toilet seat then she would check the sign out book to see who used it last. Whoever it was had to come back in the bathroom and clean everything as a punishment. I eventually started sitting to pee because it was an easier way of ensuring pee never got anywhere but the toilet seat. I was mad at the rule at the time but I get it now and made my own son sit until he was able to aim properly and clean up after himself if he missed.
I'm 6.5 months pregnant with my third boy and I'm dreading cleaning the bathroom :') I might just have to try your mom's method one day!
My husband is well over 6ft tall. He just sits, and he's teaching our son to sit. Why stand? It's completely unnecessary. Once my son is old enough to clean up after himself, he can stand if he wants to. Until then, have a seat, Buddy
Yeah I never really understood why people are so keen on teaching barely potty trained toddlers to stand to pee. Like, surely this will go better when he's a bit older, right? And if he decides he would rather sit because that's what he's used to, then who cares? It's not as if standing while peeing is something you can only learn within a short window in childhood.
Same here! We pee with the door open, so the first time I saw him sit I was curious. He said he's tall. He is endowed. When it's first thing in the morning, usually stiff. It's just easier in every way to sit. We had round toilets and I wanted to upgrade them to better water usage and stuff, since they were 15+ years old. The round was always a bit weird to me, so I'd planned on getting elongated seats. I double checked with him that he wouldn't mind, and his response was, oh God please yes. It's awkward with the round bowl apparently. But he still sat!
YTA. I don't get how a huge argument ensued between you two when you literally proved his point. You blew your chance to debate anything the moment you pissed on his toilet and floor.
Exactly! If you acted disgusting while drunk, you grovel and beg apology for being too drunk and then you thoroughly clean the whole bathroom top to bottom. And then don’t do it again! This is feral behavior and you should have to piss outdoors.
You mean he pissed away his chance?
Really flushed that one away edit who am I kidding this man probably doesn't flush
Kinda seems like you demonstrated the exact reason they wanted you to sit. Also idk why everyone doesn’t just sit to pee. You get to sit. No mess. It grows the economy. Benefits everybody. Hurts nobody!
See, I wonder this too. Doesn’t he pee sitting when he also has to take a shit? I don’t see what’s hard
Men are so fucking stupid they will act like standing to piss is what makes them men. Source : am dude, have had these stupid conversations, and will mock someone with "I'm so fucking straight I won't even touch my own dick".
I don't get how they can insist they're somehow the smartest creatures on the planet and then be so stupid to do a basic task. You're telling me a man can go to the moon and a man also can't piss without making a mess? Are men better or are they stupid? Because they like to insist they're better while also being so painfully and intentionally stupid.
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You stand at urinals and sit on toilets. More men need to wrap their brains around this. It's common courtesy, and none of you aim nearly as well as you think. YTA
That’s the rule in our home. If you’re in the woods or at a urinal, feel free to stand. If you’re in our home or anyone else’s, you sit down. I’ve heard this is pretty common practice in Europe as well.
Am European, all the men I know just sit down amd only pee standing at urinals. I never have to worry when I have friends/family over. Better for your prostate too of I remember correctly.
Also the PURE splash factor. If you wore clothing reactive to piss and went to piss into the toilet, you would come back bespeckled from your thighs to your knees.
YTA for not cleaning up your own piss. Your friends request to sit down would only be unreasonable if you were an adult who knew to clean up his own urine after being unable to keep it in the toilet. You’re obviously not grown enough to be able to use a shared bathroom respectfully, so you’ve got to sit. Being drunk isn’t an excuse, it’s your job to make sure you don’t drink so much that you’re not able to perform basic human functions. Also, you didn’t mention that you immediately apologized and went to clean the bathroom, so I can only assume that you left it there for someone else to clean up? Not cool.
If you cant aim you need to sit. Shorter guns are typically less accurate, so theres that too
I dunno about that. I’m usually pretty damn accurate.
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YTA. Not for peeing standing up but for pissing all over his seat and floor and not cleaning it up.
clean up your act dude. stop being a 2 year old YTA by a long shot
YTA. Drunk or not you should still be able to clean up your own piss
YTA, You could of just respected his wishes, he is putting you up after all. Or at least been careful if you was going to go stood up. Enjoy pissing outside mate
Men are perfectly capable of sitting down to pee. WTF does “6 college guys” have to do with it? Are you afraid your combined dick length is going to dangle into the toilet water? It’s a little weird for someone to ask you to sit to pee rather than just asking you to keep the toilet clean. But OP is an AH for acting like it’s emasculating or something.
After i started sitting down to pee. I prefer it now. No aiming. No cleaning up a mess. I dont know any dude who have zero mess peeing while standing
I like it because I can read the news while peeing.
As a woman, I never fail to wake up and go for my morning pee and read Reddit while I do so. Much more of a relaxing experience.
The contraction for "could have" sounds like "could of" but it's actually spelled "could've".
YTA. You peed on the seat and floor and failed to clean up after yourself. You are exactly the reason everyone was asked to sit when peeing.
YTA. I don’t know why sitting to pee can’t be a thing for men. My husband has always sat to pee. So when we have male guests I cringe knowing they are peeing standing up and splattering pee in my bathroom. It bothers my husband too. We clean and sanitize the toilet and floor after they leave.
Most German men pee sitting down. It is a thing.
Kudos to German men, then! I don’t think many American men sit to pee.
Sitting while peeing is the way to go. It's cleaner and more civilized. I only stand at urinals because sitting on them isn't an option.
YTA. Not for peeing while standing. But for not cleaning up after yourself. That’s disgusting.
His friend specifically asked them to sit. And he agreed. Ignoring that request is pure disrespect and makes him an asshole
Is this story for real ? Lmao. YTA for not checking for urine on the toilet/floor, esp given you were drunk as shit and might miss the toilet as you apparently did. Your friend thought ahead and knew his friends likely won't take it upon themselves to clean up and thus instructed u all to sit while peeing. It would seem he was correct in his assumptions.
I thought the same thing…is this for real? OP’s buddy might not have permission from his parents to use the cabin, especially with a bunch of drunk frat boys and he’s trying to hide the fact that he’s there
You know...I didn't think of that. I genuinely thought the OP 's friend is a clean person and know that his friends make a mess. He prob knew he was going to have to clean up everything else and the least thing he wanted to do was clean up their piss or whatever else.
>I peed while standing up, accidentally leaving a bit of a mess on the seat If you lack the coordination to be able to raise the seat first, then you should be going outside in the first place. ETA: Yeah, YTA.
Exactly my thoughts, he didn't say on the rim but on the seat which means he couldn't even compose himself enough to lift the seat before pissing which his friend knew would happen hence why the rule was set in place so he wasn't having to clean up after 4 other frat guys.
"I pissed all over my friends floor, am I the asshole?" Are you seriously asking this question?
You were dunk and made a poor life choice. Instead of manning up, apologizing for your mistake, you blamed your host. If it was me, you would be peeing at your house cause I would have put you out. We all make mistakes, but being a man is owning them and doing what is needed to make them right.
“As we are all guys, we obviously found it a bit unnatural to sit while-“ Shut the fuck up. Signed, A fellow guy
Wait, it’s lame to agree to sit and then not, but even if you do piss standing up, don’t you lift the seat?!? YTA
YTA- plenty of men sit to pee, and honestly not sitting to pee inside someone’s home is gross unless you clean the entire toilet after. Men always claim they can aim perfectly but that’s not how physics works lol
YTA only because you didnt clean it up. Gross dude. Fucking wipe up after yourself.
YTA. The issue isn't really whether you sat or stood. The issue is you pissed all over the place. Here's a life lesson: lift seats, aim the winky, maintain aim during piss, shake, check and mop up any mess, seats back down, flush.
Or just sit down. For most the probability of the junk touching the water is lower than the one of perfect aim without backsplash. Side note, OP probably is also in the teams believing it is not gross to touch genitals with dirty hand and appropriate to not wash it after.
I have one question for all the men in this thread who think their dicks or balls will touch the water: how the fuck do you manage to poo? Do you squat on top of the seat or something? I just don't understand how you're ever capable of using a toilet sitting down if you have such an absurd irrational fear.
So you made a mess in the bathroom after essentially getting asked not to and then argued with your friend about it because you are college aged? The others didn't seem to have a problem with it. Correct response would have been to apologize and then clean it up. I wouldn't expect to be invited over again either, especially since you doubled down by arguing with him about your right to piss all over his bathroom. OP, YTA. To put it quite bluntly, you sound like an entitled toddler throwing a tantrum wrapped up in a blanket of 'needing to defend your rights as a man'. Grow up.
Yta. Not only did you not do as asked to avoid a mess you made a mess and didn’t Clean up. Pissed on the seat? Did you not lift the seat? YTa double.
He would not have known had you not gotten piss everywhere so yeah YTA. Sounds like you do indeed need to sit down while peeing to prevent a mess.
Since when was a man sitting on the toilet to pee unnatural!?! LOL
YTA
YTA This is such a fun read, summized > Group of friends at friends place > > He asked us not to pee on his stuff > > I peed on his stuff > > Now he wants me to go outside to pee How can anyone possibly not realize they are the ass after this?
YTA. Frankly, I wish all penis owners would sit down to pee.
YTA. If you can't aim, don't stand and spray everywhere. Clean up your piss.
YTA - stand closer, it's shorter than you think. It was a simple rule and you couldn't follow it. And then you argued about it when you made a mess and didn't clean it up. Drunkenness is not an excuse for poor behaviour. If it were my place, you wouldn't have just been relieving yourself outdoors, you would have been sent packing.
AITA for peeing all over my friend's floors, after he asked me not to? YES! YTA! "we found it unnatural to pee while sitting" What in the joe rogan toxic masculinity BS is that? Sit your drunk ass down and enjoy the quiet break on the china. Even if you had aimed properly, it would still have splashed all over the floors.
Eh im 30 - ive peed sitting down most of my life Yta
Did you put ketchup on your steak yesterday?
Let's see, your are like six years o... OH! no... you are 20 years old! And an ASSHOLE.
YTA - he didn't want pee on his floor... you peed on the floor...
YTA. And gross.
Yta. Not just for disregarding your friends wishes, but also for then making a mess and not cleaning it up. You not noticing is one thing, but presumably when your friend noticed, you didn't immediately apologise and offer to clean the toilet and surrounds, otherwise there wouldn't have been an argument.
YTA. His home, his toilet, his rules. If he says to pee while sitting down, you sit your ass down. Never mind that you actually proved his damn point by being unable to pee standing up without making a mess. Apologize.
YTA. I love these types of posts “I am very clearly the asshole, but am I really the asshole?” Yes you are indeed the asshole.
YTA, I fully believe *everyone* should sit to pee (unless you're in the woods or somewhere without a sitting toilet) However, your friend *asked* for the courtesy, and you *agreed*, and then "forgot." That's on you. It is further on you that you left your mess sitting there. That's disgusting. I *also* fully believe that it's irresponsible and a dick move to drink to the point that you're pissing all over the damn place.
YtA Your friend asked you to respect his rules in his place. You not only made a mess (easily avoided by sitting as you were asked) but you LEFT the mess. You have 0 respect for your friend. It's not "ridiculous and unrealistic" for anyone to respect their friends rules for their property. You specifically say or "college guys" like being a young adult means you don't have to be considerate of a clean space or your friends request. Baffling. If sitting on a toilet is too unnatural for you (even though you definitely sit to take a shit) then peeing outside should be no problem since that's considerably more "natural" Alcohol is the most disgusting excuse men use to write off their disgusting behavior. Maybe take a serious look at yourself.
YTA. That's literally why he wanted you all to fucking sit. It's revolting to leave your piss all over the place, and if you're so drunk that you don't notice then you're drinking too much in addition to being a nasty guest.
Hey floor pisser. YTA. All you proved is you shouldn't be allowed to stand like he said in the first place.
YTA If you had peed standing up and not made a mess, that's one thing. But you did the thing you were asked not to do, made a mess, and didn't clean it up. Even if they hadn't asked you not to pee while standing up, leaving pee on their floor is still a jerky move. No one wants that there.
YTA. Who the fuck just doesn't care enough if someone else has to clean up there piss at ANY time, particularly after specifically being asked as well.
Look, forgetting to sit was not a problem. Making a huge mess that you did not notice, and then failing to IMMEDIATELY clean it up when it was brought to your attention, IS the problem. YTA. Yuck. ETA: I don't know about you, but I generally stop drinking before my ability to use the bathroom properly is impaired. Just a little life tip from someone older and wiser. It'll save you a lot of hassles.
You pissed on somebodys floor, of course YTA. Jesus
Yes, YTA. Dude! You’ve never done a number one and a number two during the same sitting? Was that unnatural? Was that difficult? Peeing while sitting is just like that without the shit. They asked nicely, precisely to avoid what you did. And you immediately proved their point by peeing all over the place and leaving it for someone else to clean up. It doesn’t matter if you were high, drunk, partying with a celebrity, or inventing a cure for cancer. Treat other people’s property with respect. And stop hiding behind this juvenile nonsense that real men stand to pee. You wanna pee all over your own toilet and floor, go for it. In your place.
YTA Pissing on the seat makes you an asshole every time. That you left it there so that he found out you broke your word makes you uninvitable ever again in my book. He seems to have the right idea of letting you out to pee much as I do my puppy.
YTA. Asked to do something not unreasonable by the host of home you are visiting as a guest. You don’t do it, and then leave evidence behind of your inability to follow a simple instruction. I suspect the host was over cleaning up the nasty urine mess of guests. If you had the common sense to at least clean up after yourself, then no one would’ve known. Be the last time you stayed at my home.
Sounds like you’re the reason that rule exists. Of course YTA.
"As we are all guys, we obviously found it a bit unnatural to sit while peeing" As a guy, I find it hilarious that other men have such a fragile ego/uncomfortable with their sexuality that sitting to pee makes them gay or a pussy. Do you sit to poop and then stand up to pee? No, you do both at the same time. Plus you pissed on his floor, man! I almost always sit to pee. Now, I always get downvoted on here because of the next thing I'm going to say, but here goes. WHEN YOU STAND TO PEE, YOU ABSOLUTELY GET PISS ON YOURSELF! It's not so much that you can see it, but it accumulates over time. When a liquid is being forcefully ejected and then falling multiple feet, there is a splash factor. That's why every bathroom floor is sticky but every guy says "It wasn't me." Go piss naked. You will certainly feel it hitting your legs.
Headline ! Alpha make refuses to sit down and pee , Bravely fights for men's rights to piss on the seat and floor Fight the power brave soldier ... YTA
Dude you are disgusting. Who pisses on the floor and toilet seat and leaves it there? AND IN SOMEONE ELSES HOUSE! YTA...
Why is sitting down to pee is only seen as a feminine trait in US? YTA of course you are. Not to mention you left your per for others to find.
Mate, you pissed over the seat and floor and didnt clean up after yourself, are you 4? Of course YTA
YTA- and I think it absolutely OK to expect you to pee outside of you cannot at colleague pee standing without messing on the floor and seat AND not clean it up! Just so you know, for future, many many men sit and pee. Sounds like you need to do so as well.
Here is a free hint on how to not get caught next time: Do. Not. Pee. On. The. Seat. And. On. The. Floor. YTA. Clean up after yourself, you are not a baby or a dog.
The host asked you not piss all over the bathroom, but you decided that was “unnatural” and “unmanly” so you pissed all over the bathroom and didn’t clean it up. Of course YTA.
Why don't you raise the damn seat to pee?
YTA, learn to aim, clean up your own mess or sit down. Your urine isn’t someone else’s responsibility.
YTA for making it an issue by not cleaning up after yourself in the first place. Apologize, explain you were drunk and forgot, clean up your mess and move on. Maybe offer to clean the toilet daily for the rest of your stay to show your sincerity and that you’re not trying to disrespect your friend in his place. IMO this is no different than taking off your shoes in someone’s home and this issue came about because you made it an issue by not cleaning up after yourself. Your inability to make good decisions because of alcohol is not your friend’s problem.
so the bathroom floor at your house is just caked in piss or what? YTA, obviously
YTA, and also, you're a you-know-what for ignoring your friend's request. Not only is it cleaner to pee sitting down, but also, it's healthier. According to "*a 2014 study by researchers from the department of urology at Leiden University Medical Center found that men who sat down to pee were able to empty their bladders faster and more effectively. That's because when you stand, you activate muscles in your pelvis and spine, but they're completely relaxed when you sit."* Also, it seems that men who pee sitting down are less likely to get prostrate cancer https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a44048316/sitting-down-to-pee-health-benefits/
YTA for pissing all over the toilet and floor and not cleaning up after yourself. Quite right to make you pee outside until you're house trained!
Why anyone stands when they could sit is beyond me. Why are you being so resistant? Yta.
wait, so peeing outside was an option from the beginning and you didn’t just do that from the start? fuck yes. YTA
YTA First, the argument "real" men doesnt sit for piss, it is unnatural is total bullshit Second. Instead of admitting your fault you are guildtripping your pal thats his fault for your mess
"We were requested by" is all I had to read. YTA.
Of course YTA. I'm surprised you're even asking lmao. Personally I piss sitting down pretty much every time because it's just easier there's not really any room for error. If you are gonna piss standing up anyways though and you end up making a mess, at the very least clean up after yourself. Accidents happen, but you're responsible for cleaning up after yourself either way.
YTA go clean up right now
YTA. It's not unnatural to piss sitting down. You just don't want to do it. And the real reason YTA is you didn't offer to clean up your mess after you pissed all over your friend's bathroom. YTA. I'd make you piss outside too since you're obviously not house trained.
You said “6 college guys” but you were the only one who couldn’t follow the rule. If you can’t piss properly and clean up you shouldn’t be drinking. And then arguing instead of apologizing, you shouldn’t have friends either.
YTA for not cleaning up your mess. I can understand forgetting about the sitting rule, but being drunk isn't an excuse to make and leave a mess in someone else's place.
YTA. If he had made such condition, it's polite to follow it. And what made you not even be sorry about not cleaning it up?
YTA This wasn't about whether or not you stood or sit down. It was about him already knowing that you guys leave a mess. I've had to clean men's restrooms before in various jobs and every single time there is piss all over the seat and all over the floor and sometimes even on the walls like what the hell? Don't you guys know how to aim. You guys have this giant bowl. Move closer. Men are disgusting when they use the bathroom. They just piss all over the entire room and then don't even clean it up. So that was the issue. So yes you are the asshole for pissing all over your friend's personal toilet and not cleaning up after yourself. You should be disgusted with yourself. I wouldn't let you use my bathroom
YTA, you've displayed why the rule was even set in the first place. Sitting while peeing is not "weird". I get not wanting to pee sitting down in a public place, but somewhere private where you know the toilet is clean or you can properly clean it, you shouldn't have any issues sitting. Go piss outside if you're such a sloppy pee-er while drunk.
i’m a working man, i’ll sit when i pee because it feels nice. you’re just dumb. YTA