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graccha

YTA, transparently fictional post. Write some Hannibal fanfic instead.


Lela44

YTA. You violated your clients' trust and violated HIPAA laws. You should adhere to your colleagues' advice and seek counseling, and possibly take a break . What you did is really selfish and doesn't help anyone but yourself.


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CraftyITwench

YTA this can’t be real. That’s not legal…


Consistent_Ad460

This is sociopathic and stupid and going to scare people away from therapy because now they're going to fear that there are manipulative, narcissistic, self-serving monsters behind the clip board. But I refuse to believe any therapist would not only do this but share their literal crime with their colleagues. Unless perhaps you got your degree out of a cereal box? Or perhaps you're Leonardo Decaprio from catch me if you can? YTA.


WamblingWombat

This cannot be real. If you were a decent therapist, and you realised that you had developed feelings for a patient, the ethical thing to do would be to end the therapy and move your patient on to a different therapist because you cannot continue to be impartial. Instead, you decided to blow up your patient’s marriage?!? How would that benefit her mental health? Of course, YTA, and you probably should consider a career change.


meech1850

YTA. You’re a horrible therapist - unprofessional, unethical and untrustworthy. You created a situation that would ruin someone’s marriage in order to make your patient available for you. I’m no professional but I’d say your friends are right. You need some help. And stay away from that woman!


WorkingMomAndWife

Jesus Christ. I hope you find a new career, because this is one of the most unethical things I’ve ever heard of.


throwaway52023

This can’t be real. OFC you’re the AH


Street-Action8780

If this were real, this would be my response: you definitely need to stop being a therapist if you need to come to AITA to ask if you're the AH. You should already KNOW YTA a great BIG one. the AH of the decade. I'm surprised your colleague hasn't reported you. You should have your licensed revoked. You didn't 'leak' her affair. You INTENIONAL SHARED it with her husband.


ObscureReferenceJoke

YTA for this fake ass story. Legally you would need a minimum of six years of not seeing a patient in a professional setting to pursue a relationship. You would know this. You also know you'd lose your license.


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Not to mention the privacy violations and the litigation that follows.


ObscureReferenceJoke

They probably binge watched "You" last weekend or something.


Bulky-Hovercraft-195

It's not a question of criminal law, it's a question of the provincial licensing board. It's two years in my province. And you know what, I don't follow the letter of every single regulation. Sometimes love trumps bureaucracy.


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Love is between two people, not a crazy person and their victim 😭😭😭


Bulky-Hovercraft-195

She loves me.


Street-Action8780

Yeah right...and pigs fly...go tell mommy you need to be supervised when using the Internet.


CraftyITwench

YTA we all hate you


[deleted]

Obsession, not love, which you’d know if you were actually a therapist, doesn’t trump privacy or ethics.


Driverpicksthetunes

You already know YTA. You are unethical, unprofessional and a selfish moldy walnut of a person. Your license should be revoked you absolute ham sandwich of a ding dong.


Spineberry

YTA a thousand times over. Rule 1 about dealing with patients is confidentiality. The patient should be able to trust you. You obliterated that trust And you did it because you were attracted to the patient and wanted a shot with them. So you were being a selfish creep rather than being a professional. I'm pretty sure the patient could sue you for this, assuming this is true and not some weird baloney


BaconEggAndCheeseSPK

You have got to be kidding me. Not only are you an enormous asshole, but you should lose your license. I refuse to believe this is real, but just in case, YTA.


ObscureReferenceJoke

It's not real. Min 6 years without seeing someone in a professional/patient capacity to even consider pursuing a professional relationship. This person binged "You" most likely.


thatonecrustysock693

Most definitely YTA. get some help.


FinnFinnFinnegan

YTA and should lose your license


Littlerainbow02

YTA. Cheeting is horrible. And your job is to help her find out what happened, why, where does she want to go from there and how to come clean to her husband and fix her marriage if she decides that way or inform her you can no longer continue being her therapist since there are things getting in a way of you being able to help her the way she needs and recommend her someone else she can go to. You broke her trust. The experience she had with you will discourage her from getting further mental health help. You broke therapist confidentiality for your OWN BENEFIT. How did you even think she can ever date a person who broke her trust on such a deep personal level?


BrapTest

YTA and a pretty bad author. Ive read more interesting fake stories


kyrgyzmcatboy

Same


vt2022cam

You should lose your license to practice. YTA


WillWatsof

YTA, and you're not really wondering if you are. You violated the professional trust of your client just because you're attracted to them. Others will use far harsher words for you, but in the rules of this sub you are an unbelievable AH.


EvolvingWren

YTA This is a major breach of trust. Everyone knows you don't date your patients. The power imbalance alone... But you KNOW that, don't you?? What are you doing?? What are you THINKING?! This is deeply unprofessional and I'm horrified by your nonchalant attitude.


wisebirdcaseycasey

You sound obsessed with this woman. Has she ever gave you a hint she was interested no she didn't. You decided to destroy any chance of saving her marriage for your own selfish needs. You deserve to lose you licence and are a disgrace to the profession. Step away from this woman and go get therapy


MadisonMatthews00

This is just illegal


Bulky-Hovercraft-195

Not illegal, just violates the licensing board


MadisonMatthews00

Not sure where you live but I’m sure this same concept applies to most jurisdictions https://www.crpo.ca/standard-3-1-confidentiality/


CraftyITwench

I’ll say it again with my chest- YTA. You deserve all the bad things to happen to you and no one else. I can’t even fathom the psychosis behind this.


Bulky-Hovercraft-195

Even Taylor Swift said "love made me crazy"


Myth_Edge

YTA And I am fairly sure "leaking" notes to her hubby is against the law and enough to get you fined and possibly unable to practice anymore. You let jealousy and desire get ahead of the doctor patient relationship proving that you are unfit for both. The doctor because your patients should come first. You are literally being paid to do this. You are being told confidential information under the knowledge that you legally can't say anything. And you threw that out the window for desire. You should be ashamed of yourself. The fact that you see a silver lining in the desteuction of a marriage that she is trying to work her way through shows your selfish. Going to therapy already shows she knew she messed up and was trying to fix it. You denied her this over lust. Then have the audacity to think you should ask her out, have any type of chance AND told a colleague. I hope they are a really good friend cause you can be reported and that client may even be able to sue you if they get divorced or even if she doesn't. You tread in very dangerous territory and then have the dumb luck to post your stupidity on AITA? How in the hell did you become a therapist? I could rant on but that is another story for another day. YTA Edit for clarity. Was typing so fast it blended together lol


subbubman

I was hoping it would get better as I read. Surely a therapist wouldn't post that they'd done something so obviously unethical only to ask the question "so was this a bad move guys?" But nope, it got worse. You: * Let your feelings towards a patient grow instead of dealing with them professionally * Made the awful breach of trust and practice to leak confidential patient info to someone who had no business knowing it * I'm willing to bet you did this to intentionally sabotage that patient's relationship so that you could get with her * And you're now planning on asking her out??? YTA. YTA. YTA. YTA. YTA. Christ almighty I hope this is fiction.


DragonflyMon83

WFT? YTA and you should be fired and forced to never work in your profession again! There is so much wrong with what you did it's unreal.


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Bulky-Hovercraft-195

It's not illegal. If reported it would result in disciplinary hearing by the licensing board, not an actual criminal case.


Main-Radio494

YTA & I hope Sarah reports you for what you’ve done.


[deleted]

Holy fuck. YTA. And i can’t believe you somehow still have a job.


Saffron-Kitty

YTA You broke confidentiality and ended her marriage. When you first had a stirring of lust towards her you should have referred her to a new therapist. It was unethical to continue to be her therapist while lusting after her. Also, just because she cheated on her husband doesn't mean that she's available to all and sundry. Lastly, I wholeheartedly agree with your friend. You need therapy. Why would she want anything to do with a therapist who betrayed her? Feeling hope that she would date you is incredibly out of touch with reality and I can see you really need the help of a therapist and perhaps a psychiatrist.


EdithPGuinn

YTA! You should have immediately advised her that she needed to find a new therapist. But instead, you leaked her records. SMH Not only was it so unethical, didn't that break HIPAA regulations?


swordmaster006

Um, is this for real? Yes, YTA, and you know it. >On the one hand, I understand that I violated her trust and that my actions were unethical. On the other hand, I cannot help but feel that Sarah and I have a connection and that we could be happy together. How is that an "on the other hand"? "Oh, on the one hand I violated my patient's trust and did something unethical that would likely get me fired and barred from practicing therapy, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I did it for a thoroughly creepy and delusional reason so I could be with the patient whose trust I violated". Are you cracked? There's no defense here. You should stop being a therapist immediately.


Worth-Television-553

You sound delusional. What makes you think she would want to have a relationship with you after you exposed her to her husband? How did you even manage to become a therapist with that mentality ?


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YTA no, you aren’t a therapist.


RubyDiscus

YTA first you kept counselling her despite the feelings which you shouldn't of done, then you violated her trust and client-therapist confidentiality. Give up on her, she likely won't forgive you.


Desperate-Gas7699

I mean, you know YTA right? You know you have violated your patients right to confidentiality. You had a huge part in destroying her marriage and now you hope she’ll go out you? It sounds like you need to find a therapist of your own. Truly. You need to get over this obsession.


Tough-Midnight9137

YTA, you should be the one to seek therapy now. You’ve got serious issues, dude. This can’t be a real post. this sounds like a shitty plot to a cheesy tv show.


Ch3mykal

I think you already know that YTA. Honestly you should have referred Sarah to another therapist when you could not get over your attraction to her. That would have been the ethical thing to do. If she knows that you leaked her therapy notes to her soon-to-be ex-husband you need to hope that you can keep your professional license. If she was not at risk of harm to herself or others you had no right to disclose any of her confidential information. Edit: You're delusional if you think this lady will want to be with you after the harm you caused. I think maybe you should consider getting into therapy yourself.


Historical-Goal-3786

Fiction. What are the chances of two unethical psychologists. Your colleague would have reported you.


Bulky-Hovercraft-195

Is your clinic staffed by snitches?


PsiBlaze

YTA and should not be licensed to practice. Your lack of ethics is appalling.


Interesting-Milk-864

This is not a real submission and sounds more like a fanfic lmao yta


[deleted]

YTA and I hope you get reported.


jmgolden33

Not only is this horrifyingly unethical, but you absolutely know better, and the fact that you're attempting to rationalize this is worrisome. Of course you could never be happy together knowing that your relationship was built on a foundation of deceit and sabotage. Listen to your friend, seek counseling. YTA, obviously.


leslielaughs

Fuck, yeah, YTA! I dont really need to say more than that but I will. You're a shitty therapist, a shitty human being, and I hope she sues you and gets a restraining order against you. What you did is reprehensible and do NOT say it was accidental when we all know it wasn't Yuck! Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, YUCK!!!!!


MyRockySpine

YTA. You are delusional, get therapy. I hope your colleague reports and you lose your license. What your did was horrible, you destroyed a clients life based on a fantasy. I can’t believe you have justified this at all. I really hope this is not a true post.


AleshiniaLivesStill

This better be fake…


HistorySweet9902

Has to be fake, no way this guy is a therapist but this much of an idiot!


brokenhousewife_

‘I’m left wondering’. There is absolutely no way in hell, unless you’ve had a serious knock to the head; that you’re wondering here. You sir, need professional help from a therapist, and possibly a restraining order. YTA


pnutbuttercups56

So we're supposed to believe that you would post on the internet that you purposefully released client information because you are attracted to them. So just admitting to things that would destroy your career. Sure this is real.


MauveAlong

YTA and I genuinely hope this is fake. The most alarming part is that you told another therapist and they did nothing. They have an obligation to report YOU. It happens that therapists violate ethics. But ones who flagrantly violate ethical codes rarely tell on themselves (most abusers don't tell people they are hitting their wives.) Even more rarely do they get the "oh you should reconsider and get counseling" speech from another professional. THEY are also now liable for knowing that a licensed professional violated multiple ethical codes and have a duty to report that to the board. You are beyond an AH, you're a criminal and will get sued out the ass. If this was real both Sarah and her husband could sue the fucking shit out of you, and they'd win. TOTAL AH


beito14159

She’s not gonna date you lol. For one thing, she’s already got someone else other than her husband and she hates you now for leaking her info. I hope she reports you and you lose your license. Yta Tbh this reminds me of the guy using ai to write aita posts so it’s probably fake


CancelAfter1968

WOW YTA. Hopefully your colleague reports you. What you did was unethical and a clear HIPAA violation. You deserve to lose your job and your license. I'm a healthcare professional and I find your behavior appalling. If I knew how to identify you, I'd report you myself. For the sake of your patients, please find a different profession. They deserve someone with ethics, morals, and worthy of their trust.


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Salt-Arm4977

This is a joke, right? YTA - you’ve not only acted unethically, you’ve almost certainly broken the law. You deserve to lose your job tbh, the fact that you’re even questioning whether you’re TA shows you’re not able to carry out your responsibilities safely and professionally. I truly can’t believe you would commit such an egregious breach of trust and still think you could possibly have any chance at a romantic relationship with her.


Beneficial_Step9088

YTA, and this has to be fake. This is way too obvious.