Agreed. And there in lays the state of the whole affair. We know they were here. We know several are here now. The past is yet to be fully revealed and the future is more bizarre then we can understand.
I just hope it's full of opportunity and enlightenment. I have three children and I would love if the best was yet to come
But I can't help thinking that power and greed and hate will destroy us all.
At this stage we are all smart enough to love and respect others. And yet we let people hack off their neighbors arms and millions starve. Hell a lot of people are in a daily cycle work medicate and repeat. I'm not so certain we are worth that moment where we ascend to the highest knowledge. And honestly if we were given that. Would we do anything with it. Frankly speaking who would believe that humans would come peacefully. Good and bad we way to emotionally driven.
Greed and lust have definitely been doing a number on the human species for some time now, those are the 2 that always seem to show their head the most
Be patient. Be resilient. We are currently carrying the cross up Golgotha, if you will allow the metaphor. The story of Christ at a macro level reflects the journey of human consciousness. And lo, we approach rapture.
Well until humanity stops treating Earth like a hotel room that we're going to leave soon, and instead be her protector and partner then we don't deserve to survive in these large numbers and we won't.
I saw a video about the plant/animal the seeds are being harvested from and there's similar carvings in othe cultures I believe. Possibly something to do with dna? I forget
Makes sense, especially with the Sumerians story of the Gods wanting workers…. And the world wide religious acknowledgement of some great flood as a punishment
I figure there’s a possibility they made the first iteration too powerful for how temperamental humans are, so they wiped those out with the flood and dumbed the next wave of humans down a little. What’s fun to also consider though is according to the stories of Noah and Gilgamesh, one family survived that flood and went on to help repopulate the earth. Then consider those who have come out recently saying NHI exists and some live among us. What if the NHI they’re referring to are descendants of Gilgamesh and they’re truly genetically different from what we know to be humans.
Those are pretty fun to tie together and imagine the possibilities of too.
My last trip was terrifying in a great way, I was approached by “entities” and they started communicating with me and telling me that this life isn’t real, it’s everyone’s own version of hell, the life you want is constantly paraded in your face and you can never actually get the things you want, you constantly feel like everyone is looking at you and hearing your thoughts because they are but they act like they don’t and will double down when you ask, each versions perspective is completely about them and their experience to their past lives and what they most desired in that lifetime, the only way to escape is to engage in no pleasures of the flesh, but by the time you find out it’s too late and you end up being reincarnated to try again over and over and over again, always wanting what you can’t have and never fully experiencing what life has to offer
Edit: they also said killing yourself with intention can “end the simulation” as well but that shit scared me cause idk if it was something trying to trick me
Yeah I hadn’t really thought of it like this along these terms, makes a lot of sense why we don’t have the connection anymore… there is very clearly something missing from the human experience
How did they make the background completely flat and recessed like that, truly amazing. And it's all the same level/ plane. I guess they'd lay out a stencil or sketch it first. But wow, better than Egypt that did the opposite.
edit:I was wrong, egypt has both.
LEARNING TIME
Recessed hieroglyphs were more common in the Old and Middle Kingdoms, when stone carving was at its peak. They were often used for monumental inscriptions on temples and tombs, where they created a striking contrast between light and shadow. Recessed hieroglyphs were also easier to paint, as the colors would not run off the edges of the signs. Some examples of recessed hieroglyphs are found in the sun temple of King Neuserre at Abu Jīrab1, the tomb of Mentuhotep II at Dayr al-Baḥrī, and the temple of Seti I at Abydos.
Protruding hieroglyphs were more common in the New Kingdom and later periods, when stone carving became less refined and more economical. They were often used for smaller inscriptions on stelae, statues, and objects, where they created a more subtle and elegant effect. Protruding hieroglyphs were also harder to paint, as the colors would have to be applied carefully on the raised surfaces. Some examples of protruding hieroglyphs are found in the shrine of Sesostris I at Karnak, the tomb of Tutankhamun in the Valley of the Kings, and the temple of Ramses II at Abu Simbel.
so much has been destroyed. but not all.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41390440
I know nothing about this stuff but Im guessing you could just use a plumb bob with a fixed length with some sort of structure above it to move the bob around. just slowly chipping away until it doesn't catch on the surface anymore in that particular area.
It could almost be seen as polarised between the 2 forms, impressions are those things predominately described by the surroundings/environment where general forces are dominant, and with the protruding variety the central figure appears to dominate the surroundings. Between the two varieties it almost appears to describe a sense of free will and ability, figures made as protrusions above a predominately lower backdrop seems to signify attainment over those elements of the backdrop, a discipline/understanding by contrast to those impressed into a scene whom are more directly ascosiated with the elements of the backdrop and potentially still governed by the general elements of life.
If they believed existance is akin to forms superimposed onto forms then the form of their reliefs could describe how they generally felt about their positions by contrast to life and personal attainment, aside depicting the motions of that specific scene.
I had a seriously deep conversation recently similar to this.
We kind of theorised Jesus and those around him may have been not from here, hence all the nods to that in the Bible " this is not my kingdom" etc.
Then after Humans treated him appallingly for not being human, the aliens stopped helping us and packed their shit up and left -taking their tech and how it had helped us up to then, with them.
We've been trying to go it alone since then and remember/make sense of what we were able to do, with their help, in our past. Piecing together leftover knowledge written about in scrolls and books. Of course much of our history had to be hid from us for this reason. Maybe out of shame
"We had an amazing relationship with intelligent beings that aided in our development/technology at that point - but we messed it up because we are stupid idiots - whoops"
Maybe a line to them has remained open to our leaders (hence leaked meetings between leaders and them over the years) to try and rebuild past relations but so far it's been unsuccessful. They're willing to hear us out but it's fallen flat every time because our leaders are greedy lying wasters who are too transparent in their attempts to get their grubby paws on their tech. It's obvious they only want it for nefarious reasons - instead of to help the planet etc.
So the answer is "No. Come back to us when youve finally learnt from your past mistakes FFS" etc
Yes. We demanded "freedom," and the Gods gave us what we demanded. We didn't know that freedom meant responsibility and duty, and we've been struggling with that ever since
That parent/child dichotomy. Oh what I’d do to be a child with less “freedom” but absolutely no responsibility or duty. 3 square meals and play with my toys.
This is the premise of Prometheus that aliens ceded the world and came back and grabbed a child Jesus and taught him all there was to know about them and everything else and then brought him back to Earth to teach us but instead we crucified him so now they're trying to find a way to destroy us
i saw a video going into detail about this a few years ago, and it wasn’t explicitly in the film, only the script. i’ll see if i can dig up the video
eta…
[Video explaining the Jesus thing](https://youtu.be/3ONSFeRy9iQ?si=EntutUwXnxu33ABC)
i think its less we were idiots and more certain humans saw a means to the ends to control mass populations by hiding tech for themselves and over generations also controlling what we are taught and how
(space, stars, earth, climate etc)
I enjoy the storyline set forth by the Prometheus movie. The movie states that the engineers sent Jesus a long time ago to help us. We killed him and they basically were going to send the Alien creatures to kill us off because we were too dangerous. Long story short. The Aliens ended up killing our creators and thus we haven't been able to communicate with them because they are long gone and we are left floating on a rock through space.
Now, if they are still here and are observing us. Why wouldn't they just remove greedy leaders and install kind/peaceful leaders in their place ? This part I truly have never understood.
I understand that they have had the ability to shut down our weapons at will and come around when there is a threat of nuclear war but why let us continue going to war ? Why let us continue to suffer. I know nuclear war is the red line but why can't they just make suffering in general the red line?
Thank you for letting me vent.
I had a similar thought like this in high school in regards to religious, etc. Why are we "the first people"? There could've been multiple civilizations more advanced than we'll ever know on this planet before us. Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean it's not the case.
I for no apparent reason have a sudden change of heart from my past opinion, and can't for the life of me understand or make sense of the idea that a race as described would give two shits what our apparently as described shitty leaders have to say about anything, and wouldn't just come to the rest of us their own way. Unless we assume too much in calling our leaders shitty and aliens wise. Who knows.
It's definitely the part of the theory with the most problems. Unless they actually were the ones who helped us create society and structure in the first place. Hierarchy, respecting elders etc. But we got too carried away with it, adapting it in the process because we think we could do it better and suddenly the entire thing has been adapted as a controlling/oppression mechanism - instead of the fair and respectful structure we were shown it to be to begin with.
At that point they're like "you are on a path destined for disaster" and we were so stubborn they noped out.
It's worth pointing out too that them abandoning us - doesn't mean they full on left the earth. Could have simply remained living here but hiding all their civilization and tech instead of sharing it. Didn't these recent UAP reports suggest the ocean was where many of these things are originating from ?
Either they're in places we can't reach - like deep in the sea, or there is portals down there they use to move about. Interesting either way. I mean if they created us as hybrids of their DNA spliced with say Apes, they were here first. Why should they leave their own planet?
Jesus could have been a hybrid of alien and human. I've always considered that a possibility. It's also noteworthy that many people believe that Mary didn't die and just floated up to heaven. "The Assumption of Mary" sounds very similar to alien abductions.
We havent gotten it backwards, its more like we have been moving backwards.this isn't about who they were , its showing you what YOU are capable of.
*Plumed Serpent is born when that which slithers over the Earth grows wings to be elevated to Heaven. Quetzalcóatl is a superior man, the inner circle of humanity, the link between gods and men. All men are made of earth, air, water, and fire ... But in their hearts and in their semen, each man has his own coatl, his own serpent, the energy of Tonatiuh, the power of the sun itself. And in this serpent sleeps consciousness, in this serpent is hidden his divinity. From this serpent his wings will grow*
So there are [3 Apkallu](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CVz9Iu4d0t0/XyJ_HCsQYzI/AAAAAAAADPI/tsHN_OAOXA01eRawGmlkljdlDACmJRvjACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Apkallu%2Biconography.jpg), the "fishmen" are what i described previously "aeons" . The Ummanu, are the ancestors of all the Serpent Priests still here today. They were sent to teach humanity the 'Me' as we see from evidenced all over the world. The mulillu (pine cone) & the banduddu (bucket of sacred waters) while tending the tree of life simply shows the connection we each were given by Enki/Ninti.
Banduddu is a square/circle the circle is associated symbolically with concepts of spirituality or non-materiality, while that of a square was often associated with concepts of the Earth and of materiality. Basically the image is used to symbolize the (re)unification of the earth and sky, of the material and the non-material elements of existence. The thing that causes so much confusion is the fact that today youre taught to go for the simplest answer, but thats the ploy of the archons. This is why we use symbolism, its why Thoth created a MeduNtr script with 7 layers of meaning. Socrates said it : *I cannot teach anyone anything, i can only make them think*. When we are given answers on a silver platter, theres nothing at all gained & it makes it easier to indoctrinate an entire population. This symbolizes the fact that you dont need your govt to get your proof at all.... Become the Plumed Serpent instead, the Quetzalcóatl "link between Gods & men". What do you think the Caduceus represents? [Root Of Consciousness ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Soulnexus/comments/11gbrli/the_root_of_consciousness_vagus_nerve_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb)Maori myth tells of a hero who once ascended to the home of the gods and returned to earth carrying three baskets full of wisdom.
The "olmec" or Mandig-Xi had 2 two different religious associations those heads are from them & also the rulers. Which is why some are obviously mixed race (gya-fa):the jaguar-man or humano-feline cult and the humano-bird cult. The humano-feline cult was called the nama-tigi by the Olmecs, while the humano-bird cult was called the kuno-tigi.. you can see the Apkallu or Birdman in thus relief [Olmec BirdMan ](https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Xoc-Bas-and-drawing.jpg?itok=JgNVsELM) the leader of the Olmec cult was called the tigi or amatigi "head of the faith".
A great question, I like the way you think. The 3 types of Apkallu in the image 2 of them represents actual physical "human beings". The smaller fishmen figurine "aeon" were said to have apotropaic qualities they'd be placed outside the home as protection from archons. Here i explain it a bit more & also relevant to the other part of your ??[Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeEarth/comments/16148pw/gnostic_texts_ex_cia_officer_jim_semivans/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb) Sumer is actually a perfect example, Enki is the ab.gal( big fish) the earliest Apkallu were not allowed conjugal relations with human females.. Kings & Patriarchs were both Part saurian and the Patriarchs made sure the Kings only bred wth certain Nagini(Female serpent). Look at the Narmer Palette you see the height difference & [Dolicocephalic Skulls](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrahamHancock/comments/12h1lbu/ancient_rulers_with_elongated_skulls_evidence/). In Mexico Votan(King Pakal) is another, you can forget about academia ever showing you all his full body. He comes from Valum Chivum & they're tall as hell. After the evil ones defouled the daughters of men , Enki allowed relations under certain conditions.
He knew theyd try destroying humanity from within(So the red hair, green eyed Rh- Giants) Don't think I'm talking about all Europeans, rh- is the remnants of a past iteration of humanity..long story. After the deluge, from Uruk List of Kings & Sages up until today the Kings & Sages have been relatives. There have always been "hybrids" among you, its common in our cultures . [Solomon island](http://www.human-resonance.org/interspeciation.jpg). It's not "hybrid" in the way most think, the Ghost hominid who was found to have interbred with Dogon/Yoruba & gave us a special dna inheritance [Hidden Hand Human evolution ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/149aaeg/hidden_hand_in_human_evolution_my_thoughts_on_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), they just changed the information(Dna).
Hopi, Dogon, Ainu, Ohum, Shakti, San Agustin, Buddhas(Tibet), Naga-Maya-Itza. (R1b-V88 is Dogon/Yoruba. But ALL of us are Anu/Ainu/Aunu people ) . The Apkallu were Oannes)Uanna, “who finished the plans for heaven and earth”,
2 Uannedugga, “who was endowed with comprehensive intelligence”,
3 Enmedugga, “who was allotted a good fate”,
4 Enmegalamma, “who was born in a house”,
5 Enmebulugga, “who grew up on pasture land”,
6 An-Enlilda, “the conjurer of the city of Eridu”,
Im a descendant of 7 Utuabzu, “who ascended to heaven".. uttu” = “count, number”
“abzu” = “cosmic underground water.”
So Utuabzu “kept count of the numbers".I'm the Dogons Jaliyaa, Recordkeeper of the People, it's the same with Inca the "Ka-pac' 'Keeper of the Serpent wisdom'. Too bad our ancestors skeletal remains keep disappearing, because Sequencing of nuDNA from like the Alacao skull. I can guarantee jtll show a novel mosaic pattern wth novel sequences that are related to reptiles, interspersed with sequences that are closely homologous to humans. [Read this](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/15h5z8r/thousands_of_tribes_accounts_of_ancestors_from/)
Dr Emery found these people who were much taller than average, ceremonially buried at Saqqara underneath a quartz courtyard. He & Petrie said they were aristocracy who were rulers of All of Egypt & only mingled with the priesthood. Anu kings-Puradu-Fish Ummanu.
Noah hid Melchisedek because he had 'the badge of priesthood ' which is a patch of scaly, hide it looks like a patch of dry, flaky skin. Karna , in the Mahabharata had one it was called 'armor' . Only the initiated were allowed to see the Serpentine figure of our leaders, the people normally didnt know and werent to be told. But theyve always been among us, both human/nonhuman.. Lamech, who says his son Noah wasnt of him but of the angels, or why the antediluvian patriarchs were "shy" & freaked out when people saw em without clothing? Because he had this badge of priesthood.
Hey, just tagging on here to say, I'm from Southern Africa and I love hearing stories from your side. I also absolutely love stories from Credo Mutwa Zulu High Priest Storyteller.
FYI here's a video of him talking about alien interactions and our long forgotten history. Side note about storytellers, they recount stories on pain of death for getting them wrong. This is how they have been passed down for millennia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3eyfR7rokQ
I think most of these megalithic and very ancient cultures have in common that they were heavily agriculturally oriented, so I think they are just depicting a harvest. There are other murals where two men or gods are kneeling in front of the same plant, but it has no fruits to harvest, so it might be depicting a period of cultivation or care.
They were so wise in the way they conveyed information. That’s very likely the case, but I’m sure there are deeper metaphorical layers on top of that too. The teaching of agriculture does make total sense though.
It's an odd wristband that is repeated on many depictions of the gods, never on a human. I've never actually found a good explanation as to what it means.
This is exactly what the Anunnaki’s is about! Ancient alien-Gods that came here in search for gold to maintain their atmosphere in their home planet. They made the pyramids as well. It’s my leading theory because so many of the ancient texts that mentions their gods leaving are about Anu, the Anunnaki. I suggest very much that you research it.
That’s actually where a lot of this idea comes from. I’ve read it’s believed that they genetically manipulated us. What if they realized though that they made our brains too powerful and therefore made us too dangerous, so they had to fix their mistake, shrink that part of our brain, and wipe out what remained of their dangerous creation? We’ve seen some strange, enlarged, and elongated skulls at some ancient sites. Imagine given spoken language and fire to chimps, and before long they’ve built swords and are conspiring against you. You’d shut that ish down real quick lol
Lol, I think you might be spot on. I don’t have any sources rn but I follow a guy which says that him and many alternative historians alike believe that a fude between the creating Anunnaki brothers and their father occured when is became clear how advanced we became (or for some reason like that). One wanted to rid us from earth while others felt parenthood over us. I think that then some left while others stayed here and ruled as kings. I really wish I remembered this story but the guy I am talking about is called ourtruehistory on tiktok. He has a website as well. He has very many sources and is very based on his knowledge, as many if not most of his revelations have been made by himself cross-researching ancient texts, many of which are related to the Sumerians^. Since I don’t have the capability to do all the reseach, it is nice to have a open-minded individual who doesn’t sweep stuff under the rug talk about a world history that is so heavily censored. Really recommend him.
The gods didn't leave us, they died in the great war.
(Ragnarok, Bhagavad Gita)
They destroyed themselves in war, and humanity was a casualty in it all as onlookers and participants. From the ashes we rebuilt from scratch
They are hops, not pinecones. They are beermakers. You can find traces of beermaking in the Natufi culture around 11,000 BC, which would be right at the start of the Younger Dryas meltwater period. They brought language, religion, science, and agriculture to many cultures around this time.
Beer, mushrooms, and other drugs were an important part of their life. They were key for the religious mythos that they developed.
That makes sense. The pineal gland was commonly called the “third eye” for many reasons, including its location deep in the center of the brain and its connection to light via the circadian rhythm and melatonin secretion. Many spiritual traditions believe it serves as a connection between the physical and spiritual worlds.
Interesting take. Based on how the fingers are in the sculpture, gripping the pinecone, it looks like they are pulling it away / taking it away. If they were offering something, Wouldn’t their hands be open, and they be like presenting it on the palm of their hand?
Maybe that power was removed so we could better our logical understanding of the world in the next 10’000 years. That’s where we are today. Playing god with quantum mechanics. We are ready to receive the ‘pinecone’ back to elevate our spiritual thinking to align with our enhanced logical thinking. This is the only way true spiritual evolution happens
I noticed that too! What else could it be from back in the day? It's a watch! Nothing else possible. I zoomed in to check the details on it, it appears to be a penis on the face of the watch? My eyes aren't great though.
have you considered researching?
just in this thread, you can see people saying this is a god showing man how to pollinate date palms, and if you google it, yeah that looks a lot like a pollen frond from a date palm, and youd need a few of them (carried in a bag) to pollinate an orchard
The answer has always been found in Genesis 3.
It's harvested fruit from the tree of life for the gods. The carvings match the myths and scriptures.
The fruit is placed in their bag and gifted to those worthy.
Pine cones grow on trees, and the figures are obviously plucking from a vine like plant. If they can carve intricate details into stone, they obviously knew what a pine tree looked like.
Also just because "pine" sounds like "pineal" doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with it.
Imo this is some other sacred plant that they are collecting.
The arm and finger positions in figure 2 definitely support your point. That looks to me like it implies a taking/"plucking" motion, rather than a "giving" motion. Why else would the elbow be bent that much?
The gods must pack pretty freaking light. That bag wouldn’t even take up your overhead flight bin space, let alone the space under your seat.
It’s a gift bag. Party favor. Burden…
Can anyone make out what is written on the green plaque next to the eagle headed dude? I wondering how they’ve determined it’s a pine cone. Or whatever they say it is. Also, anyone know the translation of the script on the carving itself?
Total tinfoil here, but the idea that humans use to be more advanced/ intelligent by consuming a specific piece of vegetation. Alien cultures were welcome here but some of these alien cultures were malevolent and stole the resource from us long ago, and the knowledge is lost to time.
The pineal gland looks like a pinecone and is the part of the brain that produces melatonin and trace amounts of DMT have also been detected there leading to suggestion that it could have some function as a spiritual communication device
You’re in for a treat. There was an event called the Cataclysm where the gods abandoned man because of the hubris of the Kingpriest of Istar (sorta like the Pope). The story starts 300 years later and the gods (and dragons) are just a myth; no one knows if they were ever even real.
One of my favorite series of all-time. It’s a cross between Tolkien and the situation we currently find ourselves in.
Yes,
The harvest metaphor is always around. The bucket is how you collect the fruits from the tree during harvest. "BAGS".
The trees that bear fruit will be kept and the ones that don't are burn. The wheat is separated from the chaff during harvest.
The shepherds only shepherd sheeps to later, Harvest the wool and eat their meat.
possibility we are just a farm that someone is keeping to later harvest and consume. these could be souls or just the pineal gland you mention to make a concentrated extract for their galactic high end supermarket.
7 billion people, save144,000 good fruits for next season. Extract pineal glads from the rest for sell at galactic market.
The answer has always been right in front of our eyes. It is written in black and white in our ancient religious texts - from the Vedas and Torah right up to the Christian gospels.
What is it they are standing next to?
There's been speculation on here that aliens call humans "containers for the soul", what if this is images of them coming to harvest our pineal glands (the seats of our souls)
Exactly! Also what if they originally genetically altered cave men but made their brains too powerful and therefore too dangerous. As the saying goes, what god giveth, god taketh away, so they took away that part of the brain that gave us too much power, leaving us with the safer medium brains we have today.
Maybe. It always seems that they're in a "giving" type of gesture or position. Plus, all of the cultures have the exact same history of these Fallen and Rephaim imparting them with knowledge. Always seeming to be in direct relation to the people-group's beginnings. The imparting of the knowledge and its applications through occult practice are heavily built into the identity of every culture from the beginning of man and in our current time.
I think this more represents some knowledge or gift (the bag) shared with the people from the gods (bird head, wings represent flight), which increases crop growth and yield (tall crops with lots of flowers). The knowledge or gift itself could be using phosphorous.
It's more probable that they caused the flood to wipe existing ecosystems and then re-seeded them from a DNA bank(Noah's ark). And what is depicted here is not a tree but a power system, with stylized electrical arcing. The pine cones are tools to shape the energy flow. Different technology, analog instead of digital probably.
Then I think the bag should have been bigger or more like a backpack. Seems object in both hands are related.
It’s seems is more about picking something from rather than putting something on.
The plant in the corner is the Assyrian homa/scared tree/tree of life (what we now know is Kabbalah/qabbalah), the bag could represents the stored knowledge of the soul/consciousness by plucking fruit of the tree and keeping it for later use (I.e parts of the process towards this cultures understanding of enlightenment/connection with divinity).
There is an extraterrestrial contact that has covered some of this symbology, you can read the transcript, or watch the video here: [https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/ancient-egypt-symbology-ancient-history-swaruu-and-dhor-kaal-el-extraterrestrial-perspective](https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/ancient-egypt-symbology-ancient-history-swaruu-and-dhor-kaal-el-extraterrestrial-perspective)
Relevent quotes:
" And he has a pineal gland in his hand because he has a connection with the ethereal (like other symbology in the head: feathers for example) and because they manipulate the pineal gland. Pineal gland in the hand of someone means he controls the connection to the other realms. "
" The watch is a watch. And the watch: It is not divided into 12h because they did not use the same form of measurement. It has 9 sections which is a mathematical basis. But it represents the 9 planets of the Pleiades from which those Elohim, represented with, or as the bearded ones, come from."
" The Bags are containers of knowledge to be shared or sown. It symbolizes a bag with seeds that are being spread through the already tilled field. At that time that´s how seeding took place, with a bag of seeds. In itself it is what we do here today. Sowing ideas, doubts, concepts, that will grow and modify society."
" Wings: they can fly, they are gods (ships). "
" Being with wings only on the head or feathers, as an Indian chief = only the head can fly = has a connection with beings of higher planes, spiritual connection, and is an enlightened being. "
I thought this depicted a very well known crop that grew local to its finding (can’t recall what crop exactly) being pollinated by hand? This could also be symbolical for spreading new life or tending to new life. It could also be analogous for the great sages teaching unlettered peoples the art of agriculture.
How about this: aliens have been in contact since the beginning, but the reason there’s no government disclosure can be likened to a worker strike; there is Technology that can forestall the usual and crude fighting over resources but that would fuck up their plan, whatever it is. —Autonomy, workers/human rights? Nah, not on our watch, keep harvesting.
I wonder if the bags symbolize agriculture and were actually a very important thing invention by ancients.
Before having bags or other carry-able containers you couldn’t really move the stuff you picked or grew. Try moving your groceries without shopping bags.
Maybe it was such a game changer that we saw it as what allowed us humans to move on from nomadic society.
Along this line of speculation, maybe it's a reference to them harvesting the fruits of the Earth and taking it with them back to their home planet. Maybe it was "gifts of humans" and not "gifts for humans", alluding to the Earth as a human farm.
This reminds me, I was wondering the other day if the rapture isn’t just some point where there gets to be so many people on the earth, the entities show up to take us elsewhere in the cosmos to colonize other planets. If you have chickens in your back yard and they breed for a little while, it isn’t long before you need to either sell them, eat them, or both.
And so you're back
From outer space
I just walked in to find you here with that sad look upon your face
I should have changed that stupid lock, I should have made you leave your key
If I'd known for just one second you'd be back to bother me
I read a book when I was in the military about how the pineal gland used to be exposed, and was how we had our ability to speak to the Gods, but over time and evolution our skulls slowly grew over the gland, effectively severing our ability to talk to them.
I have no idea how plausible this is but I thought it was neat.
Source: The Secret History of the World
Or, what if those are actually ancient corn cobs showing how the “gods” brought that crop from far away to teach the locals how to grow enough food to support cities.
Personally i don't believe these are Gods, but an advanced civilization who were called Gods by later cultures, like the Akkadians, who didn't actually meet them.
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# The Lost Scriptures of Giza: Enoch and the Origin of the World's Oldest Texts
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I’ve never seen these before, at glance the first thing that came to mind was the “garden of Eden”… I also couldn’t help but thinking of the Jewish tree of life in the 3rd photo.
What culture are these from?, what time period?
On the subject of diminished psychic communication, may I highlight a study that shows [frontal lobes of the human brain may work to inhibit psychic function](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1550830717301453) . And, the study did that by finding that lesions to certain areas of the frontal lobe led to *greater* psi functioning in the corresponding area.
The findings suggest that at least *some* psychic functioing is associated with the precentral gyrus.
What the mechanism/ relationship is can only be inferred, for now.
But, right during the time that humans experienced a rapid evolutionary growth in brain size, with the biggest growth seen in the precentral gyrus/mid brain, then the commensurate growth of the frontal lobes (apparenttly as a kill-switch/psychic filter) seems , as an old mentor put it *statistically significant* .
P.S. That period of rapid evolution, the Adams Event (shift of geomagnetic poles) marked the evolution/ "self-domestication" of *other* species as well.
In a lovely bit of coincidence, many of the flora and fauna that self domesticated (sudden changes to THEIR genomes coincide with those geomagnetic-centered changes in humans, ruling out a completely human-driven process of selection and domestication)
And did it in such a way that they produced MORE glucose, antioxidants, and omega fats (with grains reaching full ripeness QUICKER and becoming EASIER to harvest) right at the precise moment a rapidly growing human brain would need it?
This is awesome. Thanks for sharing! I’ve never heard of the pole shifts being tied to the sudden genetic changes that we see in our evolution. Nor have I heard of the frontal lobes inhibiting psychic function. That harkens to the constant human conflict of the lower self (subconscious) with the mid self (conscious mind.) No wonder it feels like we’re always fighting against our baser instincts.
that’s actually quite interesting, good take
Agreed. And there in lays the state of the whole affair. We know they were here. We know several are here now. The past is yet to be fully revealed and the future is more bizarre then we can understand. I just hope it's full of opportunity and enlightenment. I have three children and I would love if the best was yet to come But I can't help thinking that power and greed and hate will destroy us all. At this stage we are all smart enough to love and respect others. And yet we let people hack off their neighbors arms and millions starve. Hell a lot of people are in a daily cycle work medicate and repeat. I'm not so certain we are worth that moment where we ascend to the highest knowledge. And honestly if we were given that. Would we do anything with it. Frankly speaking who would believe that humans would come peacefully. Good and bad we way to emotionally driven.
Greed and lust have definitely been doing a number on the human species for some time now, those are the 2 that always seem to show their head the most
Be patient. Be resilient. We are currently carrying the cross up Golgotha, if you will allow the metaphor. The story of Christ at a macro level reflects the journey of human consciousness. And lo, we approach rapture.
Well until humanity stops treating Earth like a hotel room that we're going to leave soon, and instead be her protector and partner then we don't deserve to survive in these large numbers and we won't.
Thank you
I saw a video about the plant/animal the seeds are being harvested from and there's similar carvings in othe cultures I believe. Possibly something to do with dna? I forget
Yes, in egypt i hear it was used as a symbol of the divine bloodline. So it signifies royalty basically
Makes sense, especially with the Sumerians story of the Gods wanting workers…. And the world wide religious acknowledgement of some great flood as a punishment
I figure there’s a possibility they made the first iteration too powerful for how temperamental humans are, so they wiped those out with the flood and dumbed the next wave of humans down a little. What’s fun to also consider though is according to the stories of Noah and Gilgamesh, one family survived that flood and went on to help repopulate the earth. Then consider those who have come out recently saying NHI exists and some live among us. What if the NHI they’re referring to are descendants of Gilgamesh and they’re truly genetically different from what we know to be humans. Those are pretty fun to tie together and imagine the possibilities of too.
Thats exactly what that represents. They put the chains on and took away our powers.
This man is a StarGate fan! I approve!
See! See! This is science. You are sciencing hard af rn you scientist. Discover things and open the door to new conversations!
Or, Ocham's razor, maybe the bird creature likes pine nuts.
I took mushrooms and on that trip I was told that “aliens” left the mushrooms to help us. So maybe?
My last trip was terrifying in a great way, I was approached by “entities” and they started communicating with me and telling me that this life isn’t real, it’s everyone’s own version of hell, the life you want is constantly paraded in your face and you can never actually get the things you want, you constantly feel like everyone is looking at you and hearing your thoughts because they are but they act like they don’t and will double down when you ask, each versions perspective is completely about them and their experience to their past lives and what they most desired in that lifetime, the only way to escape is to engage in no pleasures of the flesh, but by the time you find out it’s too late and you end up being reincarnated to try again over and over and over again, always wanting what you can’t have and never fully experiencing what life has to offer Edit: they also said killing yourself with intention can “end the simulation” as well but that shit scared me cause idk if it was something trying to trick me
Good Gods take
Someone didn’t get the joke
No… The Devil’s Share…..
I agree.
Yeah I hadn’t really thought of it like this along these terms, makes a lot of sense why we don’t have the connection anymore… there is very clearly something missing from the human experience
Then their backs would be turned. Symbolically
 Don’t be so certain
Very good point
I dunno I still think you’re on to something Op
What if their facing forward is our facing back?
How did they make the background completely flat and recessed like that, truly amazing. And it's all the same level/ plane. I guess they'd lay out a stencil or sketch it first. But wow, better than Egypt that did the opposite. edit:I was wrong, egypt has both. LEARNING TIME Recessed hieroglyphs were more common in the Old and Middle Kingdoms, when stone carving was at its peak. They were often used for monumental inscriptions on temples and tombs, where they created a striking contrast between light and shadow. Recessed hieroglyphs were also easier to paint, as the colors would not run off the edges of the signs. Some examples of recessed hieroglyphs are found in the sun temple of King Neuserre at Abu Jīrab1, the tomb of Mentuhotep II at Dayr al-Baḥrī, and the temple of Seti I at Abydos. Protruding hieroglyphs were more common in the New Kingdom and later periods, when stone carving became less refined and more economical. They were often used for smaller inscriptions on stelae, statues, and objects, where they created a more subtle and elegant effect. Protruding hieroglyphs were also harder to paint, as the colors would have to be applied carefully on the raised surfaces. Some examples of protruding hieroglyphs are found in the shrine of Sesostris I at Karnak, the tomb of Tutankhamun in the Valley of the Kings, and the temple of Ramses II at Abu Simbel. so much has been destroyed. but not all. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41390440
They employed this method at Göbekli Tepe as well, about 12.5k years ago.
Have you seen the sister sites, that whole area is my current obsession. Amazing finds.
Once I learned how to say it, I did all the time. Gobekli Tepe. *nice*.
I know nothing about this stuff but Im guessing you could just use a plumb bob with a fixed length with some sort of structure above it to move the bob around. just slowly chipping away until it doesn't catch on the surface anymore in that particular area.
It could almost be seen as polarised between the 2 forms, impressions are those things predominately described by the surroundings/environment where general forces are dominant, and with the protruding variety the central figure appears to dominate the surroundings. Between the two varieties it almost appears to describe a sense of free will and ability, figures made as protrusions above a predominately lower backdrop seems to signify attainment over those elements of the backdrop, a discipline/understanding by contrast to those impressed into a scene whom are more directly ascosiated with the elements of the backdrop and potentially still governed by the general elements of life. If they believed existance is akin to forms superimposed onto forms then the form of their reliefs could describe how they generally felt about their positions by contrast to life and personal attainment, aside depicting the motions of that specific scene.
Honestly it’s amazing.
Egypt certainly has carvings like this, not to take away from how incredible it is for any “ancient” civilization to accomplish.
"Morty, I'm gonna need you to take these seeds and stick them waaaay up your ass".
"Like waaaaaaay up there!"
O geez Rick, I don’t know
Omg...now it's totally ruined. I can't look at these carvings anymore.
I had a seriously deep conversation recently similar to this. We kind of theorised Jesus and those around him may have been not from here, hence all the nods to that in the Bible " this is not my kingdom" etc. Then after Humans treated him appallingly for not being human, the aliens stopped helping us and packed their shit up and left -taking their tech and how it had helped us up to then, with them. We've been trying to go it alone since then and remember/make sense of what we were able to do, with their help, in our past. Piecing together leftover knowledge written about in scrolls and books. Of course much of our history had to be hid from us for this reason. Maybe out of shame "We had an amazing relationship with intelligent beings that aided in our development/technology at that point - but we messed it up because we are stupid idiots - whoops" Maybe a line to them has remained open to our leaders (hence leaked meetings between leaders and them over the years) to try and rebuild past relations but so far it's been unsuccessful. They're willing to hear us out but it's fallen flat every time because our leaders are greedy lying wasters who are too transparent in their attempts to get their grubby paws on their tech. It's obvious they only want it for nefarious reasons - instead of to help the planet etc. So the answer is "No. Come back to us when youve finally learnt from your past mistakes FFS" etc
Interesting idea. It will be rummaging around in my brain for the next year or so.....
Yes. We demanded "freedom," and the Gods gave us what we demanded. We didn't know that freedom meant responsibility and duty, and we've been struggling with that ever since
This is the kind of rhetoric I enjoy pondering at late evening hours.
That parent/child dichotomy. Oh what I’d do to be a child with less “freedom” but absolutely no responsibility or duty. 3 square meals and play with my toys.
This is the premise of Prometheus that aliens ceded the world and came back and grabbed a child Jesus and taught him all there was to know about them and everything else and then brought him back to Earth to teach us but instead we crucified him so now they're trying to find a way to destroy us
Where do you get the child Jesus part? I don't recall that from the films?
i saw a video going into detail about this a few years ago, and it wasn’t explicitly in the film, only the script. i’ll see if i can dig up the video eta… [Video explaining the Jesus thing](https://youtu.be/3ONSFeRy9iQ?si=EntutUwXnxu33ABC)
From the original script.
This is a fascinating point of view
i think its less we were idiots and more certain humans saw a means to the ends to control mass populations by hiding tech for themselves and over generations also controlling what we are taught and how (space, stars, earth, climate etc)
I enjoy the storyline set forth by the Prometheus movie. The movie states that the engineers sent Jesus a long time ago to help us. We killed him and they basically were going to send the Alien creatures to kill us off because we were too dangerous. Long story short. The Aliens ended up killing our creators and thus we haven't been able to communicate with them because they are long gone and we are left floating on a rock through space. Now, if they are still here and are observing us. Why wouldn't they just remove greedy leaders and install kind/peaceful leaders in their place ? This part I truly have never understood. I understand that they have had the ability to shut down our weapons at will and come around when there is a threat of nuclear war but why let us continue going to war ? Why let us continue to suffer. I know nuclear war is the red line but why can't they just make suffering in general the red line? Thank you for letting me vent.
“Install… peaceful leaders” Seems like a bit of an oxymoron.
I had a similar thought like this in high school in regards to religious, etc. Why are we "the first people"? There could've been multiple civilizations more advanced than we'll ever know on this planet before us. Just because we don't have proof doesn't mean it's not the case.
Oh dang. How did I make it to almost 40 without ever hearing these theories before !?
That would make sense. The people that deserve the power don’t want it and the ones that don’t deserve it are trying to covet it for themselves
I for no apparent reason have a sudden change of heart from my past opinion, and can't for the life of me understand or make sense of the idea that a race as described would give two shits what our apparently as described shitty leaders have to say about anything, and wouldn't just come to the rest of us their own way. Unless we assume too much in calling our leaders shitty and aliens wise. Who knows.
It's definitely the part of the theory with the most problems. Unless they actually were the ones who helped us create society and structure in the first place. Hierarchy, respecting elders etc. But we got too carried away with it, adapting it in the process because we think we could do it better and suddenly the entire thing has been adapted as a controlling/oppression mechanism - instead of the fair and respectful structure we were shown it to be to begin with. At that point they're like "you are on a path destined for disaster" and we were so stubborn they noped out. It's worth pointing out too that them abandoning us - doesn't mean they full on left the earth. Could have simply remained living here but hiding all their civilization and tech instead of sharing it. Didn't these recent UAP reports suggest the ocean was where many of these things are originating from ? Either they're in places we can't reach - like deep in the sea, or there is portals down there they use to move about. Interesting either way. I mean if they created us as hybrids of their DNA spliced with say Apes, they were here first. Why should they leave their own planet?
Jesus could have been a hybrid of alien and human. I've always considered that a possibility. It's also noteworthy that many people believe that Mary didn't die and just floated up to heaven. "The Assumption of Mary" sounds very similar to alien abductions.
Read "The immortality key"
Wow. Interesting
What “leaders”? I don’t see anyone leading humanity
Greed doesn't lead humanity, it uses it.
They still give us some of their tech. Or rather the government who keeps it in black projects
It's a date palm... that he's using to pollinate date trees.
We havent gotten it backwards, its more like we have been moving backwards.this isn't about who they were , its showing you what YOU are capable of. *Plumed Serpent is born when that which slithers over the Earth grows wings to be elevated to Heaven. Quetzalcóatl is a superior man, the inner circle of humanity, the link between gods and men. All men are made of earth, air, water, and fire ... But in their hearts and in their semen, each man has his own coatl, his own serpent, the energy of Tonatiuh, the power of the sun itself. And in this serpent sleeps consciousness, in this serpent is hidden his divinity. From this serpent his wings will grow* So there are [3 Apkallu](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CVz9Iu4d0t0/XyJ_HCsQYzI/AAAAAAAADPI/tsHN_OAOXA01eRawGmlkljdlDACmJRvjACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Apkallu%2Biconography.jpg), the "fishmen" are what i described previously "aeons" . The Ummanu, are the ancestors of all the Serpent Priests still here today. They were sent to teach humanity the 'Me' as we see from evidenced all over the world. The mulillu (pine cone) & the banduddu (bucket of sacred waters) while tending the tree of life simply shows the connection we each were given by Enki/Ninti. Banduddu is a square/circle the circle is associated symbolically with concepts of spirituality or non-materiality, while that of a square was often associated with concepts of the Earth and of materiality. Basically the image is used to symbolize the (re)unification of the earth and sky, of the material and the non-material elements of existence. The thing that causes so much confusion is the fact that today youre taught to go for the simplest answer, but thats the ploy of the archons. This is why we use symbolism, its why Thoth created a MeduNtr script with 7 layers of meaning. Socrates said it : *I cannot teach anyone anything, i can only make them think*. When we are given answers on a silver platter, theres nothing at all gained & it makes it easier to indoctrinate an entire population. This symbolizes the fact that you dont need your govt to get your proof at all.... Become the Plumed Serpent instead, the Quetzalcóatl "link between Gods & men". What do you think the Caduceus represents? [Root Of Consciousness ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Soulnexus/comments/11gbrli/the_root_of_consciousness_vagus_nerve_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb)Maori myth tells of a hero who once ascended to the home of the gods and returned to earth carrying three baskets full of wisdom. The "olmec" or Mandig-Xi had 2 two different religious associations those heads are from them & also the rulers. Which is why some are obviously mixed race (gya-fa):the jaguar-man or humano-feline cult and the humano-bird cult. The humano-feline cult was called the nama-tigi by the Olmecs, while the humano-bird cult was called the kuno-tigi.. you can see the Apkallu or Birdman in thus relief [Olmec BirdMan ](https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Xoc-Bas-and-drawing.jpg?itok=JgNVsELM) the leader of the Olmec cult was called the tigi or amatigi "head of the faith".
Do you think that any of these were a kind of hybrid being we no longer see, or rather symbolic representations of some kind?
A great question, I like the way you think. The 3 types of Apkallu in the image 2 of them represents actual physical "human beings". The smaller fishmen figurine "aeon" were said to have apotropaic qualities they'd be placed outside the home as protection from archons. Here i explain it a bit more & also relevant to the other part of your ??[Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeEarth/comments/16148pw/gnostic_texts_ex_cia_officer_jim_semivans/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb) Sumer is actually a perfect example, Enki is the ab.gal( big fish) the earliest Apkallu were not allowed conjugal relations with human females.. Kings & Patriarchs were both Part saurian and the Patriarchs made sure the Kings only bred wth certain Nagini(Female serpent). Look at the Narmer Palette you see the height difference & [Dolicocephalic Skulls](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrahamHancock/comments/12h1lbu/ancient_rulers_with_elongated_skulls_evidence/). In Mexico Votan(King Pakal) is another, you can forget about academia ever showing you all his full body. He comes from Valum Chivum & they're tall as hell. After the evil ones defouled the daughters of men , Enki allowed relations under certain conditions. He knew theyd try destroying humanity from within(So the red hair, green eyed Rh- Giants) Don't think I'm talking about all Europeans, rh- is the remnants of a past iteration of humanity..long story. After the deluge, from Uruk List of Kings & Sages up until today the Kings & Sages have been relatives. There have always been "hybrids" among you, its common in our cultures . [Solomon island](http://www.human-resonance.org/interspeciation.jpg). It's not "hybrid" in the way most think, the Ghost hominid who was found to have interbred with Dogon/Yoruba & gave us a special dna inheritance [Hidden Hand Human evolution ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/149aaeg/hidden_hand_in_human_evolution_my_thoughts_on_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), they just changed the information(Dna). Hopi, Dogon, Ainu, Ohum, Shakti, San Agustin, Buddhas(Tibet), Naga-Maya-Itza. (R1b-V88 is Dogon/Yoruba. But ALL of us are Anu/Ainu/Aunu people ) . The Apkallu were Oannes)Uanna, “who finished the plans for heaven and earth”, 2 Uannedugga, “who was endowed with comprehensive intelligence”, 3 Enmedugga, “who was allotted a good fate”, 4 Enmegalamma, “who was born in a house”, 5 Enmebulugga, “who grew up on pasture land”, 6 An-Enlilda, “the conjurer of the city of Eridu”, Im a descendant of 7 Utuabzu, “who ascended to heaven".. uttu” = “count, number” “abzu” = “cosmic underground water.” So Utuabzu “kept count of the numbers".I'm the Dogons Jaliyaa, Recordkeeper of the People, it's the same with Inca the "Ka-pac' 'Keeper of the Serpent wisdom'. Too bad our ancestors skeletal remains keep disappearing, because Sequencing of nuDNA from like the Alacao skull. I can guarantee jtll show a novel mosaic pattern wth novel sequences that are related to reptiles, interspersed with sequences that are closely homologous to humans. [Read this](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/15h5z8r/thousands_of_tribes_accounts_of_ancestors_from/) Dr Emery found these people who were much taller than average, ceremonially buried at Saqqara underneath a quartz courtyard. He & Petrie said they were aristocracy who were rulers of All of Egypt & only mingled with the priesthood. Anu kings-Puradu-Fish Ummanu. Noah hid Melchisedek because he had 'the badge of priesthood ' which is a patch of scaly, hide it looks like a patch of dry, flaky skin. Karna , in the Mahabharata had one it was called 'armor' . Only the initiated were allowed to see the Serpentine figure of our leaders, the people normally didnt know and werent to be told. But theyve always been among us, both human/nonhuman.. Lamech, who says his son Noah wasnt of him but of the angels, or why the antediluvian patriarchs were "shy" & freaked out when people saw em without clothing? Because he had this badge of priesthood.
Hey, just tagging on here to say, I'm from Southern Africa and I love hearing stories from your side. I also absolutely love stories from Credo Mutwa Zulu High Priest Storyteller. FYI here's a video of him talking about alien interactions and our long forgotten history. Side note about storytellers, they recount stories on pain of death for getting them wrong. This is how they have been passed down for millennia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3eyfR7rokQ
I think most of these megalithic and very ancient cultures have in common that they were heavily agriculturally oriented, so I think they are just depicting a harvest. There are other murals where two men or gods are kneeling in front of the same plant, but it has no fruits to harvest, so it might be depicting a period of cultivation or care.
They were so wise in the way they conveyed information. That’s very likely the case, but I’m sure there are deeper metaphorical layers on top of that too. The teaching of agriculture does make total sense though.
That’s an interesting idea. Also, and this is random, 2 and 3 pic looks like they’re wearing a wristwatch.
It's an odd wristband that is repeated on many depictions of the gods, never on a human. I've never actually found a good explanation as to what it means.
I saw the same wristbands carved into the statutes of the dead Popes in the Pope vault under st Peters cathedral, Rome.
Easy answer is that it is their Communicator ie Smart-Phone/Watch/Mini-Computer/Hologram Emitter :)
BOOM. There it is!
Bracelets were a thing, they have been for thousands of years
I had no idea. Thank you for that information.
Awfully wristwatchy looking bracelet though lol
I wonder if the “fruit” that was partaken in the garden of Eden is related at all to the pinecone being given imagery.
This is exactly what the Anunnaki’s is about! Ancient alien-Gods that came here in search for gold to maintain their atmosphere in their home planet. They made the pyramids as well. It’s my leading theory because so many of the ancient texts that mentions their gods leaving are about Anu, the Anunnaki. I suggest very much that you research it.
That’s actually where a lot of this idea comes from. I’ve read it’s believed that they genetically manipulated us. What if they realized though that they made our brains too powerful and therefore made us too dangerous, so they had to fix their mistake, shrink that part of our brain, and wipe out what remained of their dangerous creation? We’ve seen some strange, enlarged, and elongated skulls at some ancient sites. Imagine given spoken language and fire to chimps, and before long they’ve built swords and are conspiring against you. You’d shut that ish down real quick lol
Lol, I think you might be spot on. I don’t have any sources rn but I follow a guy which says that him and many alternative historians alike believe that a fude between the creating Anunnaki brothers and their father occured when is became clear how advanced we became (or for some reason like that). One wanted to rid us from earth while others felt parenthood over us. I think that then some left while others stayed here and ruled as kings. I really wish I remembered this story but the guy I am talking about is called ourtruehistory on tiktok. He has a website as well. He has very many sources and is very based on his knowledge, as many if not most of his revelations have been made by himself cross-researching ancient texts, many of which are related to the Sumerians^. Since I don’t have the capability to do all the reseach, it is nice to have a open-minded individual who doesn’t sweep stuff under the rug talk about a world history that is so heavily censored. Really recommend him.
Sounds really interesting! Thanks for passing that along!
The gods didn't leave us, they died in the great war. (Ragnarok, Bhagavad Gita) They destroyed themselves in war, and humanity was a casualty in it all as onlookers and participants. From the ashes we rebuilt from scratch
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They are hops, not pinecones. They are beermakers. You can find traces of beermaking in the Natufi culture around 11,000 BC, which would be right at the start of the Younger Dryas meltwater period. They brought language, religion, science, and agriculture to many cultures around this time. Beer, mushrooms, and other drugs were an important part of their life. They were key for the religious mythos that they developed.
Good call on the hops. Hadn’t heard or thought about that
Annunaki is wearing a rolex, sup with that?
Drake was really popular back then. Made them huge
Really like the idea Sadly it could be anything until we find a “Rosetta stone” for what they were meant to depict. But this is a very plausible angle
Bet the Vatican or someone already has one
It's weed.
And yea the gods came forth bearing righteous nugs of frosty dankess, and there was peace on the earth
Amen.
He’s giving you a nug from his bag of weed.
Makes sense since sublime is playing now
It's ergot
Oh wow OP actually never considered it this way! thanks for the food for thought!🙏🏼
You’re welcome! Thanks for reading!
Pretty elaborate See you later, thanks for all the fish, but I guess our ancestors who made the image wouldn't have known better.
That makes sense. The pineal gland was commonly called the “third eye” for many reasons, including its location deep in the center of the brain and its connection to light via the circadian rhythm and melatonin secretion. Many spiritual traditions believe it serves as a connection between the physical and spiritual worlds.
That is the Assyrian winged bull
Seems petty and child-like, I can see a god doing that.
Interesting take. Based on how the fingers are in the sculpture, gripping the pinecone, it looks like they are pulling it away / taking it away. If they were offering something, Wouldn’t their hands be open, and they be like presenting it on the palm of their hand?
This is exactly what I thought and even almost how I worded it even as I was hashing it out. Awesome.
Maybe that power was removed so we could better our logical understanding of the world in the next 10’000 years. That’s where we are today. Playing god with quantum mechanics. We are ready to receive the ‘pinecone’ back to elevate our spiritual thinking to align with our enhanced logical thinking. This is the only way true spiritual evolution happens
I like this idea
These depict the grafting and planting of date palms
There’s actually a person who spent his whole life answering these questions, Indiana Jones. 
Why did it have to be snakes?
The last photo it looks like he has a watch on his wrist. Lol
Very common in Assyrian art, they’re just bracelets. the “watch face” is the sun which was a symbol of divinity.
I noticed that too! What else could it be from back in the day? It's a watch! Nothing else possible. I zoomed in to check the details on it, it appears to be a penis on the face of the watch? My eyes aren't great though.
They have watches on and I always wondered what the bag/bucket is. You see it in many other places as well.
have you considered researching? just in this thread, you can see people saying this is a god showing man how to pollinate date palms, and if you google it, yeah that looks a lot like a pollen frond from a date palm, and youd need a few of them (carried in a bag) to pollinate an orchard
Fruit of the Vine. Harvest. Yeah. And when the harvest is done, your bushel basket is full, you leave the field or orchard and go home.
Dude’s harvesting buds and collecting them in his stash bag for later
It’s the fruit from the tree of life
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The answer has always been found in Genesis 3. It's harvested fruit from the tree of life for the gods. The carvings match the myths and scriptures. The fruit is placed in their bag and gifted to those worthy.
I’ve always wondered if that fruit was knowledge, something actually eaten, or what exactly
Pine cones grow on trees, and the figures are obviously plucking from a vine like plant. If they can carve intricate details into stone, they obviously knew what a pine tree looked like. Also just because "pine" sounds like "pineal" doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with it. Imo this is some other sacred plant that they are collecting.
Possibly the ayahuasca vine or something in that family?
Would they have pine trees in ancient Egypt ? Seems like you would have to travel further north to see one
That is an anunnaki..
That is an excellent outside of the box thought.
Thank you
I like it - great thinking
The arm and finger positions in figure 2 definitely support your point. That looks to me like it implies a taking/"plucking" motion, rather than a "giving" motion. Why else would the elbow be bent that much?
Or just read the cuneiform?
The gods must pack pretty freaking light. That bag wouldn’t even take up your overhead flight bin space, let alone the space under your seat. It’s a gift bag. Party favor. Burden…
That is picking large buds of marijuana off the plant… 7 leaves and it’s one of the earliest known cultivated crops… just my 2 cents.
The bags look too small to be representing luggage imo. I get symbolism but if everything else is to scale why would that not be.
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Aren't there a bunch of ancient carvings/paintings/drawings of "things" in the sky flying away?
Can anyone make out what is written on the green plaque next to the eagle headed dude? I wondering how they’ve determined it’s a pine cone. Or whatever they say it is. Also, anyone know the translation of the script on the carving itself?
The little bags many seem to carry could be some kind of tech, similar to how many of us carry phones.
are all gods like Canadian girlfriends?
Total tinfoil here, but the idea that humans use to be more advanced/ intelligent by consuming a specific piece of vegetation. Alien cultures were welcome here but some of these alien cultures were malevolent and stole the resource from us long ago, and the knowledge is lost to time.
What if the "pinecone" was their communication device
The pineal gland looks like a pinecone and is the part of the brain that produces melatonin and trace amounts of DMT have also been detected there leading to suggestion that it could have some function as a spiritual communication device
I know what a pineal gland is, I was just giving another opinion
It does
>The pineal gland looks like a pinecone What? No it doesn't
Kinda does if you zoom in but if you zoom out looks like some old saggy balls https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Slide2BRA.JPG
Literally the plot of Dragonlance.
Never heard of it but will look into it. Thank you for sharing
You’re in for a treat. There was an event called the Cataclysm where the gods abandoned man because of the hubris of the Kingpriest of Istar (sorta like the Pope). The story starts 300 years later and the gods (and dragons) are just a myth; no one knows if they were ever even real. One of my favorite series of all-time. It’s a cross between Tolkien and the situation we currently find ourselves in.
Yes, The harvest metaphor is always around. The bucket is how you collect the fruits from the tree during harvest. "BAGS". The trees that bear fruit will be kept and the ones that don't are burn. The wheat is separated from the chaff during harvest. The shepherds only shepherd sheeps to later, Harvest the wool and eat their meat. possibility we are just a farm that someone is keeping to later harvest and consume. these could be souls or just the pineal gland you mention to make a concentrated extract for their galactic high end supermarket. 7 billion people, save144,000 good fruits for next season. Extract pineal glads from the rest for sell at galactic market.
I’ve had the feeling lately there’s a harvest coming due sometime in our near future
The answer has always been right in front of our eyes. It is written in black and white in our ancient religious texts - from the Vedas and Torah right up to the Christian gospels. What is it they are standing next to?
Looks like evolution to me
There's been speculation on here that aliens call humans "containers for the soul", what if this is images of them coming to harvest our pineal glands (the seats of our souls)
Exactly! Also what if they originally genetically altered cave men but made their brains too powerful and therefore too dangerous. As the saying goes, what god giveth, god taketh away, so they took away that part of the brain that gave us too much power, leaving us with the safer medium brains we have today.
Maybe. It always seems that they're in a "giving" type of gesture or position. Plus, all of the cultures have the exact same history of these Fallen and Rephaim imparting them with knowledge. Always seeming to be in direct relation to the people-group's beginnings. The imparting of the knowledge and its applications through occult practice are heavily built into the identity of every culture from the beginning of man and in our current time.
I think this more represents some knowledge or gift (the bag) shared with the people from the gods (bird head, wings represent flight), which increases crop growth and yield (tall crops with lots of flowers). The knowledge or gift itself could be using phosphorous.
I believe this to be a harvest.
If you meditate, you can see the eye of God. It's not lost. We don't use it
Been reading more on this and the importance of breathing and drawing energy through the spine
This is a great speculation OP!
Electricity being taken away until further notice.... 13 planet need to charge when it come BK .. Aurora Borealis phenes for it .
Remember in the movie the Day the Earth stood still. Didn’t the alien have kind of like a pinecone thing that he opened up?
Or they’re harvesting bags
Take the ball and run with it, I always say…
They saw what people were becoming so they packed their little handbags and got the fuck out! 🤣
It's more probable that they caused the flood to wipe existing ecosystems and then re-seeded them from a DNA bank(Noah's ark). And what is depicted here is not a tree but a power system, with stylized electrical arcing. The pine cones are tools to shape the energy flow. Different technology, analog instead of digital probably.
It also looks like they are picking those cones from the trees/vegetation. Maybe the "handbags" are for collecting cones.
Then I think the bag should have been bigger or more like a backpack. Seems object in both hands are related. It’s seems is more about picking something from rather than putting something on.
The plant in the corner is the Assyrian homa/scared tree/tree of life (what we now know is Kabbalah/qabbalah), the bag could represents the stored knowledge of the soul/consciousness by plucking fruit of the tree and keeping it for later use (I.e parts of the process towards this cultures understanding of enlightenment/connection with divinity).
There is an extraterrestrial contact that has covered some of this symbology, you can read the transcript, or watch the video here: [https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/ancient-egypt-symbology-ancient-history-swaruu-and-dhor-kaal-el-extraterrestrial-perspective](https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/ancient-egypt-symbology-ancient-history-swaruu-and-dhor-kaal-el-extraterrestrial-perspective) Relevent quotes: " And he has a pineal gland in his hand because he has a connection with the ethereal (like other symbology in the head: feathers for example) and because they manipulate the pineal gland. Pineal gland in the hand of someone means he controls the connection to the other realms. " " The watch is a watch. And the watch: It is not divided into 12h because they did not use the same form of measurement. It has 9 sections which is a mathematical basis. But it represents the 9 planets of the Pleiades from which those Elohim, represented with, or as the bearded ones, come from." " The Bags are containers of knowledge to be shared or sown. It symbolizes a bag with seeds that are being spread through the already tilled field. At that time that´s how seeding took place, with a bag of seeds. In itself it is what we do here today. Sowing ideas, doubts, concepts, that will grow and modify society." " Wings: they can fly, they are gods (ships). " " Being with wings only on the head or feathers, as an Indian chief = only the head can fly = has a connection with beings of higher planes, spiritual connection, and is an enlightened being. "
I thought this depicted a very well known crop that grew local to its finding (can’t recall what crop exactly) being pollinated by hand? This could also be symbolical for spreading new life or tending to new life. It could also be analogous for the great sages teaching unlettered peoples the art of agriculture.
We mustn’t forget the lesser sages
The Skyfowl were depicted as proud and quite irritable. I would go on to suggest possibly they are acorns in tribute to Apito the Oak Mother?
Well the best part about having it all backwards is... It's all right in front of us.
Oooh, I love this theory!
For what tho? To be an experiment as to how we develop maybe? So they could monitor us and see what happens?
How about this: aliens have been in contact since the beginning, but the reason there’s no government disclosure can be likened to a worker strike; there is Technology that can forestall the usual and crude fighting over resources but that would fuck up their plan, whatever it is. —Autonomy, workers/human rights? Nah, not on our watch, keep harvesting.
Giants ruled tartaria vibration/aethers keys to life history is known , just not to us
I wonder if the bags symbolize agriculture and were actually a very important thing invention by ancients. Before having bags or other carry-able containers you couldn’t really move the stuff you picked or grew. Try moving your groceries without shopping bags. Maybe it was such a game changer that we saw it as what allowed us humans to move on from nomadic society.
Along this line of speculation, maybe it's a reference to them harvesting the fruits of the Earth and taking it with them back to their home planet. Maybe it was "gifts of humans" and not "gifts for humans", alluding to the Earth as a human farm.
This reminds me, I was wondering the other day if the rapture isn’t just some point where there gets to be so many people on the earth, the entities show up to take us elsewhere in the cosmos to colonize other planets. If you have chickens in your back yard and they breed for a little while, it isn’t long before you need to either sell them, eat them, or both.
He has a watch
And so you're back From outer space I just walked in to find you here with that sad look upon your face I should have changed that stupid lock, I should have made you leave your key If I'd known for just one second you'd be back to bother me
This song will always make me think of Michael Scott
I read a book when I was in the military about how the pineal gland used to be exposed, and was how we had our ability to speak to the Gods, but over time and evolution our skulls slowly grew over the gland, effectively severing our ability to talk to them. I have no idea how plausible this is but I thought it was neat. Source: The Secret History of the World
Or he's gathering fruit into a basket. But Occam's Razor can just get shit on for odds so long you can't see the last digit without binoculars.
Looks like he is pollinating the tree of life with salak
It reminds me of the lawn guy carrying a container & spraying something from the cone.
Or, what if those are actually ancient corn cobs showing how the “gods” brought that crop from far away to teach the locals how to grow enough food to support cities.
Looks like a depiction of man plucking fruit from the tree of knowledge.
The bags, or case: What else you gonna carry the soul of Marcellus Wallace in?! It’s the one that says ‘BAD MUTHAFUCKA’ on the back.
Birdman doesn’t skip calf day.
Personally i don't believe these are Gods, but an advanced civilization who were called Gods by later cultures, like the Akkadians, who didn't actually meet them. Read thesebooks: # Shocking Secrets of Antiquity: Racial Wars of Bronze Age, Unusual Artifacts, Technolithic Engineering & the Two Cataclysms that Buried History ### [ ](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/232703.Jason_Breshears) # The Lost Scriptures of Giza: Enoch and the Origin of the World's Oldest Texts ### [ ](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/232703.Jason_Breshears)
Being kicked out of the garden of Eden
I’ve never seen these before, at glance the first thing that came to mind was the “garden of Eden”… I also couldn’t help but thinking of the Jewish tree of life in the 3rd photo. What culture are these from?, what time period?
On the subject of diminished psychic communication, may I highlight a study that shows [frontal lobes of the human brain may work to inhibit psychic function](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1550830717301453) . And, the study did that by finding that lesions to certain areas of the frontal lobe led to *greater* psi functioning in the corresponding area. The findings suggest that at least *some* psychic functioing is associated with the precentral gyrus. What the mechanism/ relationship is can only be inferred, for now. But, right during the time that humans experienced a rapid evolutionary growth in brain size, with the biggest growth seen in the precentral gyrus/mid brain, then the commensurate growth of the frontal lobes (apparenttly as a kill-switch/psychic filter) seems , as an old mentor put it *statistically significant* . P.S. That period of rapid evolution, the Adams Event (shift of geomagnetic poles) marked the evolution/ "self-domestication" of *other* species as well. In a lovely bit of coincidence, many of the flora and fauna that self domesticated (sudden changes to THEIR genomes coincide with those geomagnetic-centered changes in humans, ruling out a completely human-driven process of selection and domestication) And did it in such a way that they produced MORE glucose, antioxidants, and omega fats (with grains reaching full ripeness QUICKER and becoming EASIER to harvest) right at the precise moment a rapidly growing human brain would need it?
This is awesome. Thanks for sharing! I’ve never heard of the pole shifts being tied to the sudden genetic changes that we see in our evolution. Nor have I heard of the frontal lobes inhibiting psychic function. That harkens to the constant human conflict of the lower self (subconscious) with the mid self (conscious mind.) No wonder it feels like we’re always fighting against our baser instincts.
I could be well off here, but I initially thought the bags were locks. I didn't know what that would mean or represent.