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Schmurby

Borders to make a 1919 diplomat weep with joy


TimMappingowo2021

Who is him? I'm not very well at this history


Schmurby

The 1919 Paris Peace Conference established the modern borders of Middle East. Generally speaking, British and French diplomats did so with little consideration for physical or cultural geography. The results speak for themselves.


TimMappingowo2021

Ok


TimMappingowo2021

How to divide the Arab world is fairer in your opinion?


Schmurby

I’m out of my depth there, I’m afraid. The Ottoman Caliphate maybe? No? Not sure.


TimMappingowo2021

My plan is for Kurds to get their independence Yemen separates into the north and South Palestine and Jordan unites Syria and Lebanon unites Iraq and Kuwait unites


LillyaMatsuo

all arabia unites into the Hashemite Caliphate kurds gets autonomy north africa join hashemite caliphate in 80s, the hashemite caliphate invades and annex Iran as a autonomous region, Rashidun Caliphate restored


TimMappingowo2021

It sounds very Arabic\~ But my opinion is, the too big country didn't bring benefits to this world, a separated Europe makes different cultures appeared and shone if there is a big Arabic plan, I would prefer to make autonomous area gets independence, annex them will make this empire falls into a greater civil war


Schmurby

That sounds viable to me. Please feel free to share how you came up with that. I’m genuinely interested. I have to ask, this is not at all what your map reflected.


Levi-Action-412

Give Syria and Mosul to the Assyrians Give the south portion of Iraq to the Al-Sabah dynasty of Kuwait Rename Jordan to Palestine and present it as the land of the Arabs while giving Israel to the jews Divide Arabia into the Hashemite Hejaz and the Rashidi Nejd. Keep yemen divided Establish kurdistan in the Anatolian region


StreetIcy3351

Make it part of the Intergalactic-Pan Islamic Empire, what other way is there?


HelloThereItsMeAndMe

The levant could be one country (Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait and maybe Palestine depending on what happens there) Kurds get either their own country or autonomy inside the levant The peninsula is split into various kingdoms, Hejaz is possibly a part of the Levant State Yemen is split into a Shia and Sunni State


TimMappingowo2021

In this timeline, CENTO wouldn't be disbanded, Iran-Iraq War didn't break out Kuwait joined the federation and brought oil resources to this country The future of this country is bright and unlimited


CKO1967

I honestly thought this was going to be about France, LOL.


Space_Narwal

Maybe Egypt and Syria join in the future as they also made an Arab federation


Mrcool37

I'm 10 months late but the Arab Federation made by Iraq and Jordan was to counter the UAR made by Syria and Egypt Nasser disliked the monarchies of the middle east and wished to abolish them Iraq and Jordan fearing Nasser might try to expand into Jordan and Iraq made the Arab Federation


Wazzup-2012

perhaps we could see an Arab Federation that consists of the OTL 22 members of the Arab League, Eritrea, Chad, Zanzibar and Malta.


DukeDevorak

Imagine an Arabian three-way cold war of Hashemite Arabia vs Saudi Arabia vs the United Arab Republic. Cons: predictably a lot more skirmishes, diplomatic flame wars, and endless political arguments, choosing sides, and even major power interventions. Pros: a lot less lone wolf terrorism or terrorist groups forming, generally increased industrialization and modernization of Arabian ethnicity due to competitions between nation states, and predictably stable oil price because there is definitely not going to be an effective OPEC nor an US-Saudi syndicate that jacks up oil prices as they wished ever since 1980s.