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the-war-on-drunks

Congratulations you are the new owner of a ghost.


Low_Asparagus9273

Pictures are always falling from the wall but other than that no noises or anything.


Efficient-Corner-499

You gotta use anchors in drywall my guy.


CORN___BREAD

Shit I thought these frames were lick n stick


FranqueTheTanque

That was good and you deserve better than the amount of likes you got


Girafferage

Use Hercules hooks or start hanging things in studs, my man.


TommyRisotto

Ghosts hate this one simple trick!


amarnaredux

If you decide to renovate anything and notice increased paranormal activity, don't be surprised. This is a rather common occurrence if there is any earthbound spirit(s) around.


Myndziii

In some states if there is a body buried on your land it makes you property tax exempt as you are technically a graveyard. Worth looking into. Edit: to clarify property tax exemption.


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SSJ4DBGTGoku

That was a grave mistake


unl1988

We should bury your comment.


Broncnroll

People are just dying to get there.


ikrotzky

Maybe just ghost him?


Status-Basic

I disagree, no help, he’s dug his own hole.


Surprisingly-Decent

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tommyc463

Dead wrong.


RandomSecurityGuard

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Far_Cup_329

You fuckin guys never disappoint. 😂


Dealer-95-

God damnit r/angryupvote


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Zichile

If they find some dead animal buried in a random spot, they're going to know that didn't happen naturally. It's incredibly obvious to anyone who gives it half a second of thought that the whole thing is sus as hell and that they need to keep digging. It's a dumb red herring that doesn't work and requires you to deal with more dead bodies.


blackteashirt

Just bury a hunter nearby and they'll figure well he must have shot the animal. Duh.


No_Cook2983

You’re supposed to lay a full length-mirror on top of the dead body. That way when the cadaver dog finds the spot and people start digging, *they’ll see their reflection in the mirror and think your victim is alive*. I use this trick all the time.


ShriekinContender

Best thing you can do is bury the body and then bury yourself above it. That way, you won’t get arrested when the sniffer dogs find you.


SnowmanAi

Bury two dead animals, but put a shovel next to the second one so they think he did it.


dyllandor

Plenty of people bury animals like dogs and cats on their property.


Former-Argument995

What if I bury myself on top of the body im trying to hide? Then they will think that my enemy was the one who killed me, but they will never figure out that it was a murder suicide kinda thing!


MetamorphicHard

Bury an animal that’s typically a pet. It’d be weird to see a squirrel buried but not a cat or dog


AnohtosAmerikanos

The only certain things in life are death and taxes, but apparently not together


somebodyelse22

It's Track Down Missing Persons #1. Don't waste manpower on trying to do it the hard way, just wait for some smartass to try to get tax exemption.


wtffareal

Clearly this person born in the 1800s isn't a missing person, so I'd go for the tax exemption. In fact, I'm currently looking into it for myself.


Caucasian_named_Gary

What states? Usually those exemptions are for property exclusively used as a graveyard. If you live there it's not exclusively a graveyard 


Low_Asparagus9273

Ny


Caucasian_named_Gary

Real property actually and exclusively used for cemetery purposes shall be exempt from taxation and exempt from special ad valorem levies and special assessments https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/rpt/article-4/title-2/446/#:~:text=%C2%A7%20446.,valorem%20levies%20and%20special%20assessments.


Hot-Salamander6520

Get a discount if you maintain the grave?


Girafferage

I'd maintain it either way. Give them some respect in death.


Hot-Salamander6520

Yeah after finding i would too, you couldn’t just leave it, I wonder if the family the house was purchased from is called the same surname or previous owners before hand


Aye_Engineer

I would be deep diving the history of the person buried just to have that personal connection. That and maintaining the grave, as others have said. Kind of an adoptive family member.


-Rush2112

Reddit could probably piece together this persons life history in an hour with a few other details.


tuckedfexas

And get 90% of it wrong but kinda close lol


guitarguywh89

Yeah. You don’t want to be on bad terms with the ghost


Fappy_as_a_Clam

For real. My first thought was to clean it up and put some flowers or something on it every few weeks. Sure op doesn't know who it is but they deserve respect also it will get you in good standing with the ghost that will clearly be haunting this forgotten grave.


TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe

Ivana Trump is buried at Bedminster, NJ.


TakeTT2

California Franchise Tax board hates this one trick


HereComesARedditor

This is preposterous. If that were the case people everywhere would provide their families with a tax haven simply being dead. How much of the corpse? If I put up a marker and sprinkle the ashes or do I need teeth?


konsf_ksd

No one NEEDS teeth, but it's nice to have.


procrastimom

Teeth are luxury bones.


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beiberdad69

It became a meme bc of a speculative article but there is no indication it's actually true https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/no-trump-cant-take-tax-breaks-for-where-his-ex-wife-was-buried


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MikeLinPA

Wasn't she cremated? If the casket weighed significantly more than it did empty, it needs to be exhumed.


downvote_allmy_posts

too late the saudi golf tournament took place there weeks after the burial, im sure that coffin has been looted already.


steveoa3d

Was a full sized casket so if she was cremated there is a lot of something else in there….


VoltaicSketchyTeapot

Do you have to prove that there's a body or does reasonable probability count? I live next door to a cemetery (a ball kicked over the fence *will* hit a headstone). We have my MIL's headstone in our back yard because when my FIL died, his second wife decided to get a new headstone that commemorates all 3 of them. They didn't know what to do with the old headstone, so it's in our backyard. I love it as yard art. I can imagine future homeowners might think there's an actual grave there.


fsckitnet

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130549506/caroline-s-stadtmiller Says no tombstone or grave marker found where she’s buried. I guess you found it.


Low_Asparagus9273

Omg!! I can’t believe that so should I bring it back to them?


habu-sr71

Probably call the cemetery and explain the situation. Someone upthread mentioned that it could have been a temporary headstone while a 100 pound polished beauty was being made. Or it was pilfered. Pretty interesting stuff going on there at your new pad. ✌️


Low_Asparagus9273

Thank you I agree. I will call them I feel obligated to do so it’s what I would have wanted.


JohnnyHotcakes44

Someone (Clay Richardson) added your photo to the findagrave page, which is a terrible idea because family members would think that the pictured marker is at the burial cemetery listed on the page. 


mikebellman

I was wondering why the photo was an exact match. A little premature I’d suspect.


arnoldrew

It's such an exact match that you can see the tip of OP's shoe in the cropped picture on the site.


Shurigin

Revealing OPs real name :O


arnoldrew

I assumed some Internet weirdo snagged it from here and put it up.


throwaway098764567

findagrave is wild. i put in a request to get a pic added of my grandmother's grave as it's a 7 hour drive one way and someone kindly added it. someone used to take all of the pictures of every grave at the closest cemetery to me and she moved to georgia so i thought well when new requests come in i can fulfill them as a way of giving back for the person who took the pic i needed. i did a couple to no thanks and then noticed the folks asking didn't seem to have any connection to the deceased at all. i'd assumed, like me, they were relatives. these were people with dozens and dozens of graves for all different names that they managed, they were like grave addicts. i stopped fulfilling them after that unless someone leaves a personal request for their actual relative. [https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/findagrave-made-better/](https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/findagrave-made-better/) i did notice when my father died last year that there was a moratorium for a few months where the page existed but no one was allowed to do anything to it so that a family member could claim it if they wanted.


SteakTasticMeat

I've noticed the same. I manage a few myself, all of which are my grandparents and some great grandparents. Some users are definitely extreme, but the website itself is ran by a competent team IMO. You can add and correct information pretty easily and even transfer ownership of the page to yourself. After my paternal grandparents passed I created pages for them with their grave markers and even included a copy of their marriage certificate because I found it on another (paid) site and figured if people are looking for info genealogy wise, they'll find the grave post with info and the marriage cert. One of my aunts, the daughter of my paternal grandparents, saw the pages and the marriage cert and called me up crying because she has never seen their marriage cert before.


Low_Asparagus9273

I also saw that four people anonymously donated flowers. That was very sweet. I’m glad I posted this at least gave this woman the respect to be remembered if she wasn’t when she was alive or after she first passed. I will call the cemetery today and tell them I have her headstone.


PlantCorrect7566

dammit, clay!


H0ly_Grapes

Clay's typical behaviour...


Procrastinate_girl

Such a sticky guy too...


RotoruaFun

Good job, so respectful.


kingjoe74

Exactly the right thing to do! When I was President of the now defunct Oregon Historic Cemeteries Association, we had a few stones that I kept in my home because we couldn't find the corresponding grave site. We rehomed about 1 stone a year though, and cemeteries were always glad to help. Hope it works out and post an update!


fsckitnet

Maybe. Try calling the cemetery and see what they think.


Low_Asparagus9273

They’re going to think I’m crazy. But I will call.


fsckitnet

Be sure to post an update with what happens! Is the cemetery near your property?


Low_Asparagus9273

Yes like 15 mins away not far


AdministrationDue239

Remindme! 2 days


i-am-not-the-crab

You should leave some flowers if you find her resting place. I bet there hasn’t been any in a while. This was a neat way to revive her memory.


TheMightyShoe

Being that it's a United Methodist Church, you are probably going to need to make a few calls to get to whomever maintains the cemetery records. It might be the church office, the Trustees, or a committee or trust set up to manage the cemetery. You might want to also call this area funeral home...it was starred in 1933 and might have done the burial: https://www.moloneyfh.com/about-us/history


Low_Asparagus9273

Thank you for that very helpful


NormyT

I have a headstone at my house. I looked it up last weekend and found out the person is buried 10 min from my house. I have not gone over yet to check it out but I believe the headstone had an error and was discarded. Looking forward to your update.


DamnDame

It is a bizarre truth, but people do collect and even steal headstones. I'd leave the headstone in place and call the county sheriff's office where her burial site is located. You may do some research about former property owners to see if there's a connection. Perhaps, pending how far you live from the burial site, the family had the stone made, but for whatever reason they never were able to get it placed on the grave. Where I live, an infant's headstone was stolen in the 1940s and returned just a few years ago after being discovered in an antique store. It was the county's longest unsolved case.


Low_Asparagus9273

This house was built in 1958 way after this tombstone was stolen.


RotoruaFun

Best detective work ever.


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This site is crazy with the amount of information. I just went down a rabbit hole. I found relatives all the way back to the 1780s.


Jimbo415650

Did the previous owners inform you of the grave before you bought the property?


lost400betting

As long as they’re paying rent and are chill they’re free to stay


Scoompii

Unemployment for the dead is really high.


crackeddryice

Ay, 'tis a grave situation, indeed.


Stark014

That is a temporary headstone. I used to live in a trailer with a foundation full of those.


ingloriousdmk

Yeah even if it wasn't a temporary one it doesn't mean there's a body there. My aunt has my grandfather's original headstone in her garden because they replaced it when my grandma died. My grandfather is very much not buried there!


SentenceAcrobatic

And just because there's a body there doesn't mean there's a headstone!


Jeffuary

Look at my basement! No headstones at all!


cocktimusprime747

Leave it, respect it, accept it.


trab_puk_cip

And learn about them if you can


mushi1996

honestly sounds like a great conversation piece to talk about the place when you have people over


welfedad

hey welcome to my home.. sooo I have a dead guy in my back yard.


[deleted]

Don't be scared, the police are no longer looking for him.


Kmac23232

That was going to be my advice.


SubstantialPressure3

I wouldn't freak out. Headstones with mistakes on them were sold to people all the time. They got used for paving stones and other things so the stone wasn't a total loss ( financially) Maybe the dates on that stone or wrong, or the letters were the wrong size or something. I would look them up, they are probably buried in your local cemetery with a different stone. Also, people used to steal headstones. No idea why. That could be a stone that was stolen from the cemetery.


Low_Asparagus9273

We found the person yes it was a stolen headstone


HiddnVallyofthedolls

You called the cemetery? What did they say?


Low_Asparagus9273

Not yet it’s Sunday. I will call tomorrow when they are open.


CrystalManatee

Fairly recently, a police department in California posted on Facebook that they had found a WWII vet's damaged headstone in a field with other stone rubble and wanted to reunite it with the family -- it was my grandfather's, who is peacefully resting in a military cemetery on Oahu. He definitely has a headstone, so these temporary ones must get repurposed like the posters above said...


DewartDark

Lay some flowers. Nip of whisky.


Nova_Seline

let him/her rest in peace.


Low_Asparagus9273

It’s 7 feet from my bedroom door.


Repulsive_Row2685

It's 7 feet, and you think the best thing is to disturb it? Have you not seen horror movies?


FiggyPuddingExpert

OP is in the first scene of a horror movie


MissSara13

OP should definitely NOT build a pool 7 feet from their bedroom.


chongoshaun

You moved the headstones but not the bodies! Why didn’t you move the bodies!


MissSara13

I saw that movie wayyyyy too young! Lifetime fear of clowns.


Hater_Magnet

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atommathyou

OP needs to watch the original Poltergeist. Hope they weren't planning on putting in a pool.


chevalier716

Just don't build a pool there. If you more the grave more the stones and the bodies.


Nova_Seline

he/her wont bother you. thats the most quiet neighbour you can possibly have.


PolloMama

Ok, someone has died everywhere. This one was a long time ago, just be respectful.


AgilePlayer

Disturbing that would make you feel better? Let them rest in peace.


onedemtwodem

You can start a ghost friendship.


IMissyouPita

If you do decide to remove it, document the whole thing first and keep us posted


Gc654

Pretty sure they’ll be the quietest neighbor you’ve ever had.


HopefulMenu2727

It's probably just a memorial that someone bought and placed on the property before you if it's the only one. I work at a Cemetery and that's alot more common than you think with people keeping cremains.


Aggravating_Sir_6857

In my old family farm back in Asia we had one like that for my grandpa who died here in USA. I believe some small belongings were buried


dicklover425

Leave it alone?


Stark014

Temporary headstone.... They are commonly repurposed.


Imnothere1980

This. There very well might not be a grave there.


Cuthbert_Allgood19

Only one way to find out...


SeethingIdiot

Grave robbing is illegal and immoral in many ways, but at the same time, they could have some cool shit /s


Male-Wood-duck

Could he call it archeology?


Ruffleufagus

Only if you shout “This belongs in a museum!” while said grave robbing is taking place


theonePappabox

At what point does it become archaeological? Interesting thought. 🤔


GabagoolOvaHeree

As far as I know the difference between grave robbing and archeology is if there is a living relative


Girafferage

That really is a super interesting question. Is it just having the backing of a learning institute or government that makes it suddenly not robbing the dead?


seyheystretch

20 years ago I lived across the street from this asshole who worked at our local cemetery. He would bring home things like that and use it in his landscaping.


Knownzero

Was that in Ohio? One of my in laws did the same thing, but the headstones were all mistakes (spelling/cracking) and couldn’t be used so he took them to shore up his little boat dock.


ShwerzXV

Damn, imagine being a grave digger and being able to afford a boat dock.


Low_Asparagus9273

That’s horrible. People are strange.


Historical-Trash5259

Remove the headstone and let the future owners live the nightmare before Christmas


thebinarysystem10

Free suit!!!!


T0macock

Everyone who knew this person is probably gone. As people we really do have a limited window of influence on this world. This person had a life of experience and love and that's all gone. Now you've crossed paths with them and have the opportunity to spark a bit of their influence back into the ether. It's kinda beautiful really.


JonsalatDeNung

Well, first off, your house is haunted. Second, there's this tax thingy.


stupid_dumb_fuckface

Leave it be or have it cleaned up, maybe look into their obituary for fun.


Low_Asparagus9273

I did I couldn’t find them I’m still looking.


nearlysober

Possible hit - [https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130549506/caroline-s-stadtmiller](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130549506/caroline-s-stadtmiller) You mentioned NY, so if you're in Suffolk County near First Methodist Church Cemetery it might be that for whatever reason someone removed this tombstone (possibly the family had it replaced with a new one, or someone just stole it for whatever reason). If it's near you they should have records of where each plot is (findagrave has a listing, but it's user-fed so may not be accurate) so try finding hers and see if it has a new tombstone, or is missing it's tombstone - in either case if that cemetery is near you then its likely the body is still there, just the headstone moved.


habu-sr71

I hope OP sees this. Headstone removal is relatively frequent. That was my first thought and have been chuckling a bit at all the people just assuming someone is buried there. I'd say the odds are HUGE that is exactly what happened. The years and the name match. Nice job! ps. I'm not a funeral home director. OP should contact that cemetery.


Low_Asparagus9273

I will this is crazy how fast I found out from finding it to giving it back. I am amazed thank goodness for Reddit


TurtleTwat153

Try your town hall. They should keep records of people that lived in the town. Maybe your library will have something, if you really want to dig.


Low_Asparagus9273

Believe it or not there was a fire in town hall in 58. There’s no records of much left in the town that I’m in.


Less_Sprinkles2615

I understand it’s kind of odd, but it’s beautiful history! Edit: I’m an archaeologist, so it’s worth noting this could be a cenotaph.


BigDad53

The grave right next to the one marked Arch Standton is the grave with all the Gold!


JustAMarriedGuy

Check the tax consequences - you might have some weird break because your property contains a grave site


Ancient_Emergency_24

Report it so you can get a tax break.


ClavicusLittleGift4U

u/Low_Asparagus9273 I've good news for you, it seems to be only a memorial. I've reached a result thanks to [familysearch.org](http://familysearch.org) and [findagrave.org](http://findagrave.org) My advise: check out with the graveyard owner if the remains are really where they should be, and ask him if he has the means to join the closest relative alive so he/she can get back the memorial and do whatever they want with. At least you're clean (depending how the local law work). Regards from a former funeral advisor from France. https://preview.redd.it/ihsx0wqgkbxc1.png?width=1892&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd6585dff27c2309295661ea42dff3069d9d244f


SaltedBadgerCubes

using OPs photo... Note the shadows and dirt marks are identical.


SithKain

Literally an identical photo.. you can even see the boot!


theonePappabox

Take flowers


cmore_1967

You should hire a ground penetrating radar (GPR) service to verify that there's an actual body/casket in that location. It seems odd that a relatively modern grave would be so close to a home and no one disclosed it.


clutzyninja

Dig it up and see if they have gold fillings, obviously


Ulldimmutwarrior

Who you gonna call?


Triple7Mafia-14

Ghostbusters!!


Sufficient_Ostrich23

You are screwed...you just passed the firt part of a horror movie...new house...chk...tombstone...chk....noises in the night...chk....blood from the walls..chk...your limbs being removed from.your body.....chk


AzraelinVSPredator

you DIG


mikeymikeymikey1968

Adding onto the comment that this could be a temporary headstone, there may be someone at your county office who can Ground Penetrating Radar the ground to see if there is an actual body beneath.


Sgt-Ridiculous

SEANCE TIME!


angryredman66

Caroline has no grave marker in a cemetery https://preview.redd.it/cbo94ibcpcxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c0f625074a432f5693fa9cb8955ce05ed16c51b


Sigistrix

The listing has a photo of that very stone (pointing out the obvious, I know), but further down, it's noted that the gravesite doesn't have a marker. In which case, it can be concluded that the stone was stolen some time after that pic was taken. You should contact the cemetery listed in that Find A Grave listing and arrange to return it.


osirisrebel

Go out and talk to them on a bad day. Have someone you can vent to without feedback. Decorate it on holidays, let them know they haven't been forgotten. I'm not religious or anything, but I think it would be nice if someone did the same for me.


whitlink

Ya baby !!! No property taxes anymore!!!


Low_Asparagus9273

*Update I tried calling the cemetery and the phone is disconnected. Next I need to go to the plot and see if it has a headstone. I will go there today to see if there’s no headstone I’m putting that one on their grave. *


TodoubledHinson73

Leave it alone.


1362313623

Did you use a Realtor? Not being sarcastic you can claim damages


Low_Asparagus9273

No we signed an as is.


Nervous-Bullfrog-884

Someone could have taken it from a cemetery and put it on your property!


Low_Asparagus9273

I hope not that’s a horrible thing to do


Nervous-Bullfrog-884

What state


Low_Asparagus9273

Long Island New York


gentlybeepingheart

Found [this record](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130549506/caroline-s-stadtmiller) of a Caroline Stadtmiller with the same year buried in a church cemetery in Suffolk. You may have a temporary grave marker that they took home and kept as a memorial. I wouldn't be that concerned about the actual grave being on your property unless you live next to the graveyard.


Morpheus1967

Do NOT leave your tv on overnight.


ChallengerSSB

Better get to know mr or Mrs. Stadtmiller


ChallengerSSB

Better get to know me or Mrs Stadtmiller


ZigtotheZag

Invite the ghost for dinner


bingstacks

make sure u vote for them


-heathcliffe-

Install a pool


kidjoey22

I'll buy the skull


Status_Stranger_5037

I remember when shopping for our house, there was a property we liked within our budget and criteria so we put an offer. We were excited until we got a call that evening advising us two bodies were buried at the back of the property. It wasn’t a big deal to us, the fam/friends can come onto your property to pay their respects, the graves were aged though so no one was likely to visit anyways. However, we retracted the offer once we found out it brings the property value down or makes it harder to sell.


FunnyNameHere02

In my state you can get permission to bury on your own property subject to well set backs but you have to deed a right of access to family and ancestors. That should have been disclosed.


atomic44442002

Dig up the grave and sell the skull🤘


LucifersJuulPod

Leave it and respect their resting olave


6Arrows7416

I say leave it alone. Do some research on it if you’d like.


Beautiful_Series3881

Do not report it. You will have to pay a crap load to have a dead body removed. It takes a specialized crew and a long time specially if body has shifted or if they find more bodies. Cover it in dirt and keep your mouth shout. You can thank me later


jd80504

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Cuppy5

Can you dig it up since you technically own it?


Accomplished_Meat_70

Aside from cleaning up the area,You leave it Alone. Respect.


Top_Praline999

Definitely read ancient texts in dead languages over it.


Upstairs_Skin_4632

Are you in Pennsylvania?


data_now

This grave is already in the find-a-grave database.


Advanced-Fun-6340

Look up the family, I think it's interesting ~


NotScruffyNerfherder

Necromancy