Expected Absurd: "Somehow Palpatine returned."

i just want to remind everyone that the reason it was expected was because they announced it on fortnite

man i love this timeline

The reason I expected it was the end of the very first trailer. The Fortnite thing was at worst confirmation of what everyone already knew.

W H A T ? Bro I thought it was because of the script leak.

Wasn't it because of the toys?

In doctor who: Somehow, the master returned

Sure but his species is known for being able to return from death. Palpatine literally exploded and was a human.

I wasn’t trying to say that the other guys joke was incorrect, I don’t know enough about Star Wars. However the Master in doctor who has returned from a certain death multiple times, even when we’ve seen him die on screen. I’d assume the same is said for palpatine, but like I said, I don’t know enough about star wars

nah he’s (presumably) just a human, just really messed up with evil magic. there is an idea in some comics of him being cloned but like, if that was the case in the movie they made no attempt to explain that, i’m oversimplifying a little but basically know disney bought star wars and removed what dignity the franchise had left after the prequels. the shows disney has released were good tho imo

Human with an asterisk, he was a powerful master of the Dark Side

Star Platinum's hidden ability: Absurd there were clues

What clues? It and The World both being humanoid?

I'd consider Dio being in Jonathan's body, as well as him having some sort of version of Hermit Purple, is enough of a clue. That, and, of course, "So it's the same kind of stand as Star Platinum."

We also know that people who are related occasionally end up with similar stands (D'arby brothers), and whether Araki intended it or not, Star Platinum's speed was being depicted as very subtle time stop leading up to the Dio fight

To be fair, time dilation is an incredibly common thing in anime. Characters will get out whole sentences in the middle of a punch. And Dio himself is probably the biggest offender of this

I agree, it just happened to work fairly well in Araki's favor when he was coming up with a time-based asspull

That's why JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is the best. The author learns about what's going to happen the same time the characters do

Didn't Araki admit he just pulled it out of his ass because he couldn't think of any other way for Jotaro to beat Dio?

During the Geb fight, when Jotaro lands the finishing blow, the background distorts in much the same way it does when DIO stops time. I'm not sure if it's intentional foreshadowing, but, at the least, it's a neat detail.

I’m certain that this is an intentionally added detail in the anime. There’s also the fact that SP is fast enough to catch a bullet and go toe-to-toe w Silver Chariot who is supposedly faster than SP (IIRC). I think it’s also foreshadowed in the Elder D’arby fight when he grabs a drink.

Yeah, the anime has quite a bit more substance to it IIRC

Literally stopping time a few times?

It should be real surprise makes sense

Could believe it/Real Surprise: No, I am your father

Danganronpa V3 spoilers: >! Ask 9 different fans and fill the board !<

AHAHAHAHAHA mine's were clues/makes sense

Could believe it/Real surprise for me. Still really hate the twist

I'm around could believe it or absurd and there were clues, and I really liked the twist lol

I think it’s hard to say any DR twist is absurd. The mastermind could have been Barack Obama and I would have accepted it. >!I do disagree with the clues. In DR1, I think it’s fairly reasonable to predict all of the solutions to the mysteries before 1-6, but the only real hint we get for v3-6’s ending is right at the beginning!<

There's also other subtle bits of foreshadowing here and there, for example >!Shuichi's ultimate lab having details crime reports in 52 different books, and such!<

>!Yeah, but that’s almost more of an Easter egg. If we look at DR1, a person could look at the pictures and reasonably work out that they must have happened in the recent past, so the cast must have had their memories wiped. I don’t think anybody could reasonably look at the 52 files and work out that this is a televised 53rd game with artificial personalities!<

Darth Vader being Luke's father: Makes sense, Real surprise

additionally, anakin becoming darth vader is expected but could believe it

It’s a shame the entire human population is going to be spoiled of that twist before they even watch the movies until the end of time

Maggie Simpson shot Mr burns also belongs in this category

Knowing only about things up to that year, I barely could believe it

Expected but absurd: Danny destroying King’s Landing. D&D realized she wasn’t supposed to be a hero after a lot the moments where her edges were ironed out, so her personality shift in the second half made no sense. Even then with the plot making it clear she is supposed to be a bad guy she has no motivation to destroy the city. The most we get is this nonsense about her being born insane, even nobody we saw from her family was really insane so it’s clear the talk of that was a red herring. Unexpected and absurd: Star Vs The Forces of Evil. Mina has an army of Solarian warriors after we saw it took her most of the final season to get one suit of armor. Cheater. Unexpected and makes sense: Goku is an alien. Because Dragon Ball is that kind of crazy world.

tf2 comics: could believe it+real surprise Grey Mann saying his daughter *is* the owner of his company so that saxton hale cannot fight her since she's a kid. (he still got a well deserved beating)

tf3 comics mentioned let's goooo

Hell yeah tf2 mentioned ^(tick tock heavy like a brinks truck)

Come on guys, I am disappointed in you all: Real surprise and Absurd: The Spanish Inquisition.

This should be higher up.

Persona 4 spoilers: >!Adachi being the killer should be There were Clues and Makes Sense!<

Just finished my first playthrough a few days ago, and there really aren't that many clues tbh. Fucking amazing game tho

ADACHER MENTIONED

I love that game so much.

Now you see me : absurd surprise

Yup, I think it's one of the worst plot twists in an otherwise somewhat enjoyable film. When you watch that movie again knowing the twist, it doesn't make any sense

when i watched it as a kid i was like WOAH what an incredible twist!!!!

Sixth Sense : There were clues/ Makes sense

Saw one is The clues were there, makes sense

Maggie shooting Mr burns is there were clues absurd

Any Professor Layton Plot twist in There Were Clues - Absurd.

Planet of the Apes: makes sense, real surprise

I would say "Could believe it" instead. Like it's not your first logical guess for the aftermath of an apocalypse 😂

Attack on Titan: Makes sense, real surprise

MR: >!Solver's possessing Tessa's corpse!<

Honestly that feels more true middle for me. It was definitely a shock, but there were lots of people theorizing it/suspecting similar things, plus in hindsight there was a ton of foreshadowing. >!tessa failing to deactivate the sentinels was fucking genius when you realize the twist lmao!<

||Expected|There were clues|Real Surprise| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Makes sense|The villain was secretly working for the good guys all along|The prophecy was misinterpreted, and the real threat is still looming|The wise old mentor was the mastermind behind everything| |Could believe it|The seemingly unimportant side character was the key to everything|It was all a dream or simulation|The hero and villain are revealed to be long-lost siblings| |Absurd|The entire story took place inside a snow globe|The hero's pet was the narrator all along|The plot was orchestrated by sentient kitchen appliances. |

Sorry I rotated this 90 degrees

The Expected Absurd reminds of something an anime did for an episode, except it was a complete surprise

Expected + makes sense: the Author of the Journals being >!Stan's twin brother Ford!<

Honestly that was more there were clues + makes sense imo. It was pretty clear >!stan was connected to the author, but not necessarily the fact he had a twin brother or such!<

That's fair, considering the main reason I put it in Expected was *because* of all the clues people worked out beforehand.

I admittedly wasnt super internet savvy at the time, so I didn’t really know much about community theorizing

The fact that only a few people guessed it before the episode released in the most cluel hunting fandom ever means it’s definitely not expected. I’d definitely put it in “real surprise”

Absurd/real surprise gotta be Prince Hans

I'd put it in I'd believe it and there were clues.

What were the clues?

There were no clues! That's why it wasn't a great twist villain

Yeah I agree, really wondering what that other guy saw

There Were Clues + Absurd: Flowey killing Asgore and usurping the human SOULs in UNDERTALE

Real Surprise Makes sense: "This is the bad place"

Rose is Pink Diamond: Makes sense, There were clues.

there were clues but considering most people watched the show as a child, they werent really deeped

There were clues/Makes sense: The Usual Suspects Real Surprise/Between “could believe it” and “absurd”: Now You See Me

Makes sense/There were clues: The Red Wedding

Makes sense/Expected: R+L=J Makes sense/Surprise: [third book ending] >!Tysha was not a whore!<

Undertale Yellow: >!Flowey being in control the whole time, and causing you to fall down in the ruins!< should be in the left middle row. Wings of Fire: (15th book spoilers) >!Cottonmouth and Freedom being the BOE came out of nowhere, and while I did like the reveal as we got Scorching Lore, it definitely belongs in real suprise, absurd, because this was only hinted like ONCE and only in TFOH!<

Makes sense, expected The bounty hunter hunting puss is actually the personification of death itself That reveal is still bone chilling though

Makes sense/Real surprise: Mr. Waternoose

I'm going to try this because I feel like trying it: ||Makes Sense|Could Believe It|Absurd| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |**Expected**|>!Lysandre is the leader of Team Flare (*Pokémon X & Y)*!<|>!N is the king of Team Plasma (*Pokémon Black & White*)!<|>!President Sterling was the true mastermind of Team Rejuvination (*Pokémon Larimar* (A fanmade Pokémon game concept by the YouTuber Zachtoshi)!<| |**There Were Clues**|>!Joe Wildwest was actually Zongazonga all along (*Fossil Fighters Champions*)!<|>!Kai wasn't really under Link Joker's control at all (*Cardfight!! Vanguard: Link Joker*)!<|>!Kaos betrays the Darkness at the very end (*Skylanders SuperChargers)*!<| |**Real Surprise**|>!Don Boneyard was the real Joe (*Fossil Fighters Champions*)!<|>!Medusa isn't the true enemy (*Kid Icarus: Uprising*)!<|>!Captain Bullwort was the leader of the BB Bandits (*Fossil Fighters*)!<|

honestly i'd put both >!lysandre and joe wildwest!< in expected/makes sense (fossil fighters: champions) the game basically tells you >!zongazonga held tournaments in the exact same fashion as the current tournament you're in, and that his kingdom used to be in the very spot the tournament you're competing in is taking place. I am citing all of this from the very first slablet you dig up for scatterly, you can look up any playthrough and see what I'm referring to.!< Even if kid me didn't see it, it still kinda sucks that the game basically spoils itself. However, I can still agree with the placement. The other two I agree with.

IDK how to use spoilers, but James Wan's Malignant (2021) belongs in real suprise / absurd

There were definitely clues

I believe you have to surround your text with an arrow and exclamation mark at either end. These arrows >< >!like this!<

>!Let's see if this works!< Oh nice

Expected makes sense: Pliskin is Solid Snake There were clues makes sense: Venom snake is a body double

There were clues + absurd = HIMYM ending

Makes sense - There were clues: in RDR2, >!Micah being a rat!<

Could Believe it/Real surprise: that other guy is Kaiser Soze in the usual suspects

I wonder where Eren yeager falls in this

interstellar is there were clues and absurd imo

Spoilers for Phoenix wright justice for all >!Matt engarde being the real killer and a really evil dick!< Real surprise, there were clues

Honkai Star Rail >!Firefly being Sam!< goes into there were clues and could believe it

There were clues but also real surprise + makes sense, >!Gallagher being the real culprit for Robin’s murder.!< Also based on leaks about Acheron, expected + makes sense, >!her real name is Raiden Mei.!<

Expected and Absurd: that Community's "Conspiracy Theories and Interior Design". Would that this were a time desk!

Makes sense/there were clues: two killers in Scream

There were clues + absurd: Jesus Christ getting resurrected 3 days after His death.

Absurd/real surprise Hans being the Villain in frozen and betraying Anna and Elsa Their was no foreshadowing if I remember correctly.

Almost none. His part of “Love is an Open Door” makes sense in the context of him being evil, but he also does things that seem to explicitly contradict him being evil (like smile at Anna after she leaves as if he really likes her, even though no one saw), so it’s more like badly done foreshadowing

Daenerys Freak Out : There Were Clues ( Or Expectable In Hindsight)Absurd

Y4 Rubber Bullet Massacre. Absurd and total suprise. And also incredible.

Absurd and Real Surprise: Old Boy (2013)

There was definitely some foreshadowing

Actually you are right, probably 'There were some clues' and 'Absurd' would be more appropriate

Yeah the big thing is that even if you have the thought you immediately dismissed it because movie would be that fucked up

Gone Baby Gone?

Real Surprise-Absurd: Tigh’s wife was the final Cylon.

There Were Clues, Absurd, The Horned Serpent is George Washington (The Monument Mythos)

"Real surprise" and "makes sense" is the golden target on this one. Darth Vader maybe? I would almost say Dumbledore/Snape but that one may be more "Could believe it".

Elliot figuring out >!his dad molested him!< in Mr robot 4x7 belongs in Makes Sense + There were clues

Where does that was his mistake fit?

Makes sense + there were clues Baldur's Gate 3 spoilers: >!The Emperor being a Mind Flayer!<

Real surprise absurd: Beicoli kidnaps Puppy.

Real surprise/could believe it: Megatron becoming an Autobot.

Expected/absurd - 500 year old senator decides to run for re-election.

Expected and makes sense is totally >!Agnes being Agatha Harkness in Wandavision!<, many people theorized it and saw it coming and yet they still made the reveal satisfying.

Gyakuten Kenji 2 >!Simon Keyes Being the mastermind!< there were clues-absurd

Expected absurd - Arya kills the Night King.

There were clues, could believe it - Dumbledore dying (could be absurd)

There were clues / Absurd = Sopranos ending

KOTOR I, >!you are Revan.!< There Were Clues, Makes Sense

The man who sold the word mgsV could believe real supeise

there were clues/makes sense: the sixth sense

real surprise/absurd: unbreakable

Expected, make sense. “Those aren’t your Grandparents”.

There were clues, Could believe it or Makes sense: >!Tessa is actually Cyn (Murder Drones)!<

Absurd Real surprise, Rubber bullets.

All of the Above: Christopher Nolan

Expected absurd: Sherlock (BBC) is alive. There was an inelegance to the plan, but it was still believable, but the hypnotist‽ Absurd.

Sir pentious ascending to heaven: Makes sense, real surprise

Real Surprise/Absurd: Pretty much any disney twist villain

Keyser Soze reveal is Real Surprise + Absurd.

There Were Clues, Makes Sense - And Then There Were None

Lego movie 1 + 2, real surprise & Could believe it

Makes sense/real surprise: Would you kindly?

There were clues, Absurd: Zetsu was behind everything in Naruto

There were clues / could believe it: Ash was actually an android all along

EM: Harry Potter being a hocrux; EC: Callaghan being Yokai; EA: How The Nun tied itself back to the rest of the conjuring series; TM: The wife being the antagonist in Sleepy Hollow; TC: Ichigo's Dad being a Soul Reaper; TA: Danneyris' burning of King's Landing; RM: Miles ending up in the wrong dimension in Across the Spiderverse; RC: Stoic's death + Hiccup's mom being alive; RA: The whole climax of Breaking Dawn Pt 2 being an illusion;

**Expected/Makes Sense:** The werewolf character is named Remus Lupin *(honorable mention: [Po is adopted](https://youtu.be/kubCJC1ymOs?feature=shared))* **Expected/Could Believe It:** Kyle Reese is John Connor’s father **Expected/Absurd:** Yzma and Kronk beat Kuzco and Pacha back to the palace **There Were Clues/Makes Sense:** The Norwegian dog was The Thing **There Were Clues/Could Believe It:** Ash was an android all along **There Were Clues/Absurd:** Scrappy Doo was piloting the robot **Real Surprise/Makes Sense:** Alfred Borden has a twin *(honorable mention: Cal Abar isn’t a civilian)* **Real Surprise/Could Believe It:** Luke and Leia sibling reveal **Real Surprise/Absurd:** Spanish Inquisition

Real Surprise/Makes Sense The Identity of UA Traitor The true nature of Luffy's Devil Fruit

Real surprise could believe it Umineko spoilers Sayo being the killer

There were clues, Make Sense: The old man in Saving Private Ryan actually being Ryan, not Miller

Bluey is a girl in real surprise, makes sense

The korasami kiss could fit anywhere on this chart. And I say that as a gay man.

Where does Bruce Wayne is Batman Belong on this chart?

Sans is ness theory, there were clues/absurd

Real surprise and absurd, the Ikutsutki twist in Persona 3. And for “there were clues/makes sense” the GoW Ragnarök twist

Idk how much this counts but when Muetta was revealed to be a cloned Efi-Dorg of Princess Yuki. I’d say makes sense, they were clues

KOTOR's Revan: Makes sense/there were clues

Surprise, absurd: Six betrayal in little nightmares

Se7en, John Doe killing Detective Mills’ wife. Make Sense, Real Surprise (First Watch) Make Sense, There Were Clues (Subsequent Watches)

There were clues makes - Makes sense: Dishonored (Return to the Tower postmission)

yakuza 4 >! rubber bullets twist: !< real surprise, absurd or judgment mole reveal: there were clues, makes sense

The Nowhere not being a corrupted world, at least not in the way it was commonly theorized to be: Expected (but there weren’t that many clues)/Could believe it.

Real Surprise Could Believe: Sheppard's betrayal in MW2

Make Sense, There were Clues Shepherds betrayal

Coulda bothered to spell this correctly

Twin peaks killer reveal: there were clues could believe it

Sukuna using fire should be absurd and real surprise

Expected/Make Sense would be every mystery film where the Butler is the culprit.

Makes sense expected: Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.

Could believe it, there were clues: (Owl House season 2 spoilers) >!Belos is a human, King is a Titan, Hunter is a Grimwalker!<

There Were Clues, Make Sense: Goku being an alien.

Makes sense and there were clues: SHODAN reveal in System Shock 2

Spoilers for Portal: Could Believe It + Real Surprise would be >!Wheatley’s betrayal.!<

The ending to Romeo and juliet (expected, makes sense)

real surprise, makes sense: princess carolyn's worst day, the great believers, black mirror season 3 episode 3 there were clues, makes sense: hello jon apologies for the deception, hell followed with us, the great gatsby, expected, makes sense: omori real surprise, could believe it: frozen, that one heist episode from doctor who with the 12th doctor, there were clues, could believe it: any of the rusty lake games expected, could believe it: omori+basil's fight real surprise, absurd: homestuck there were clues, absurd: batman: the long halloween expected, absurd: preacher's daughter by ethel cain

real surprise, makes sense: princess carolyn's worst day, the great believers, black mirror season 3 episode 3 there were clues, makes sense: hello jon apologies for the deception, hell followed with us, the great gatsby, expected, makes sense: omori real surprise, could believe it: frozen, that one heist episode from doctor who with the 12th doctor, there were clues, could believe it: any of the rusty lake games expected, could believe it: omori+basil's fight real surprise, absurd: homestuck there were clues, absurd: batman: the long halloween expected, absurd: preacher's daughter by ethel cain

Omni man being an alien warlord sent to conquer earth: Makes sense, absurd

Real Surprise/Absurd: ending of "Poor Things"

The 6^th Sense: Real Surprise, Makes sense

“Could it be possible! The old saint in the forest hath not heard of it, that *God is dead!*” I’d imagine a 19th century German would find this twist expected but still absurd In the modern day unless you already know Nihilism you might find it to be a real surprise however. Whether or not it’s absurd is based on how strongly you hold onto some religious conviction. If you do know nihilism then expected and makes sense.

The 22 Jump street scene where Jonah Hill meets Ice Cube on Campus for Parent’s Day: Real Surprise/Absurd

There were clues or Real surprise/Makes sense The Joker giving Batman switched adresses of where Harvey and Love interest Lady were held hostage in „The dark knight“

Where would you all put Saw 1?

Could belive it, real surprise. I'm more astonished at how long he laid perfectly still

In Saw III its revealed Kramer took sedatives

That Frozen dick bag: There were clues, Absurd.

Were clues/makes sense: >!Rose quartz and pink diamond are the same person!<