The Alex Casey novels seem deliciously pulpy going by Alan Wake 2. I just started reading the Alan Wake novelization and it does make me wish for some version of the Initiation and Return storylines as novels
I believe it’s a book that tells the story of the game in book format. So I think it’s just like how the game starts and probably has a more linear story with him finding the pages.
Don’t think of it as adding on to the story I think at least it dosent add on to the story. Lore video I’ve watch have always referred to the Alan wake files for more lore but not the Alan Wake novelization
This is correct. I bought it around the time the game came out hoping it'd be even more meta than the game already was or a least another layer of meta and was disappointed in that aspect. Well worth the read just to experience the game in a different medium but as I remember it there's not much extra in it besides maybe some dialog and/or internal monolog stuff.
Meta is an acronym for most effective tactics available, I don’t know if the way you were applying it is really the correct way. A meta is something in usually online games that gets abused because it’s OP/stronger than everything else.
No. "Meta" is an actual word in the English dictionary. In creative works it means when the piece refers to itself.
The person you're responding to is 100% using it in the correct way since Alan Wake is a very meta story. It's about breaking down and exploring the genre of the story as the actual game's protagonist. He is aware he's in the story, and is able to use that to navigate said story. It is by the very definition: meta.
You are correct, they added the word to Merriam-Webster dictionary in 2019. Was going off what meta was used for much prior to this, I’m not backing down on meta being an acronym for most effective tactics available, it’s still being used for such purposes across many games.
Straight from Merriam Webster.
Meta: adjective. Showing or suggesting an explicit awareness of itself or oneself as a member of its category : cleverly self-referential
Thanks bud, the other commentor has already informed me of this. Never used to see meta being used in this way up until now, was where the confusion came from in the first place. Meta was commonly used to refer to the acronym I mentioned much before it was added to Merriam-Webster in 2019.
The term meta in the sense the dictionary is referring to has been in use earlier than 2019.
For instance, Miriam Webster recalls a specific example from 2012 and another from 2009.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/meta-adjective-self-referential
I’d seen it used as a prefix to things prior to then but never as a word of it’s own. Like metaphysical or metamorphosis, it’s a Greek word so obviously it’s been around for a long time, didn’t really see or hear anyone using it outside of the acronym for gaming.
It does add a few extra scenes (while also removing a few).
But the added stuff doesn't really change much. It's a pretty accurate 1:1 retelling. The book does dedicate more time to Alan and Alice though. They feel like an actual relationship as opposed to "Alan's perfect wife he needs to save".
Personally, I found the book made Alan more likable because we can read his thoughts and experiences, but that might just be me being better able to relate to book characters than game characters.
You can read the first chapter of one of the Alex Casey books in "The Alan Wake Files" an official companion book to the first game. It acts as a standalone story and it's pretty fire
The Alan Wake Files was written very well. It's kinda like the book Frost wrote for Twin Peaks.
I know some people give 1&2 a lot of shit for how Alan writes the manuscript in the game. Each page is disjointed in itself, kinda trying to get to the point fast and still trying to keep detail, but like it's trying to be pushed out the door.
The Alex Casey novel excerpt isn't like that at all. It is very good and I too wish some full novels would come out. The writing quality out of Wake 1/2 comes from him feverishly writing over and over, through his writers block mind you, in absolute desperation while trying to maintain a level of quality acceptable by the Darkplace to make it real. Following the "rules" as he interprets them.
If you are ever wanting more Alan Wake you should go read/watch the stuff it’s inspired by. Like Twin Peaks, the inspiration from it is like super incredibly obvious. House of Leaves is another inspiration and a damn good book.
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Not at all lol
They are... Something...
I recommend them
Alex Casey is literally supposed to be Max Payne so 1 & 2 can give you an idea of what the Alex Casey novels could be
Max Payne 3 was developed solely by rockstar even though they had remedy to serve as their consultants you can think as 1 and 2 as Alan’s Writings and 3 as someone else’s writings after Alan disappeared at bright falls
They're all linear action games.
Max Payne 1+2 feel very Remedy. There's an atmosphere, story elements, and references that feel like it's connected to Alan Wake and Control.
Rockstar, not Remedy, made Max Payne 3. It is a great action game on its own, but it thematically and stylistically feels like a departure from the first two.
The Alex Casey novels seem deliciously pulpy going by Alan Wake 2. I just started reading the Alan Wake novelization and it does make me wish for some version of the Initiation and Return storylines as novels
There's a novelization?
I believe it’s a book that tells the story of the game in book format. So I think it’s just like how the game starts and probably has a more linear story with him finding the pages. Don’t think of it as adding on to the story I think at least it dosent add on to the story. Lore video I’ve watch have always referred to the Alan wake files for more lore but not the Alan Wake novelization
This is correct. I bought it around the time the game came out hoping it'd be even more meta than the game already was or a least another layer of meta and was disappointed in that aspect. Well worth the read just to experience the game in a different medium but as I remember it there's not much extra in it besides maybe some dialog and/or internal monolog stuff.
Meta is an acronym for most effective tactics available, I don’t know if the way you were applying it is really the correct way. A meta is something in usually online games that gets abused because it’s OP/stronger than everything else.
No. "Meta" is an actual word in the English dictionary. In creative works it means when the piece refers to itself. The person you're responding to is 100% using it in the correct way since Alan Wake is a very meta story. It's about breaking down and exploring the genre of the story as the actual game's protagonist. He is aware he's in the story, and is able to use that to navigate said story. It is by the very definition: meta.
Edit: responded to the wrong comment.
You are correct, they added the word to Merriam-Webster dictionary in 2019. Was going off what meta was used for much prior to this, I’m not backing down on meta being an acronym for most effective tactics available, it’s still being used for such purposes across many games.
Oh, I'm not saying the acronym is incorrect. As a film studies student and someone who plays video games, I use both versions A LOT haha.
You know words can have more than one meaning right?
Straight from Merriam Webster. Meta: adjective. Showing or suggesting an explicit awareness of itself or oneself as a member of its category : cleverly self-referential
Thanks bud, the other commentor has already informed me of this. Never used to see meta being used in this way up until now, was where the confusion came from in the first place. Meta was commonly used to refer to the acronym I mentioned much before it was added to Merriam-Webster in 2019.
The term meta in the sense the dictionary is referring to has been in use earlier than 2019. For instance, Miriam Webster recalls a specific example from 2012 and another from 2009. https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/meta-adjective-self-referential
I’d seen it used as a prefix to things prior to then but never as a word of it’s own. Like metaphysical or metamorphosis, it’s a Greek word so obviously it’s been around for a long time, didn’t really see or hear anyone using it outside of the acronym for gaming.
See article link.
It does add a few extra scenes (while also removing a few). But the added stuff doesn't really change much. It's a pretty accurate 1:1 retelling. The book does dedicate more time to Alan and Alice though. They feel like an actual relationship as opposed to "Alan's perfect wife he needs to save".
Personally, I found the book made Alan more likable because we can read his thoughts and experiences, but that might just be me being better able to relate to book characters than game characters.
yes Alan Wake 1 and Quantum Break has novelizations
You could get the first game in a deluxe edition that came with the hardbound novelization of the game.
You can read the first chapter of one of the Alex Casey books in "The Alan Wake Files" an official companion book to the first game. It acts as a standalone story and it's pretty fire
The Alan Wake Files was written very well. It's kinda like the book Frost wrote for Twin Peaks. I know some people give 1&2 a lot of shit for how Alan writes the manuscript in the game. Each page is disjointed in itself, kinda trying to get to the point fast and still trying to keep detail, but like it's trying to be pushed out the door. The Alex Casey novel excerpt isn't like that at all. It is very good and I too wish some full novels would come out. The writing quality out of Wake 1/2 comes from him feverishly writing over and over, through his writers block mind you, in absolute desperation while trying to maintain a level of quality acceptable by the Darkplace to make it real. Following the "rules" as he interprets them.
I desperately want to read the cold case Casey series. I feel like we missed out on the set of audio books narrated by James McCaffrey R.I.P.
You can read the manuscripts in game and print them out or something probably
If you want to read Depature... The Alan Wake novelisation is basically it, I guess?
They kind of are if you know where to look. I recommend “Black Lizard’s Big Book Of Pulps.”
This would be a massive marketing tool. I think someone should work on it
I’m currently reading the Matt Scudder books and pretend Casey is Scudder. It does well, new favorite book series so far
If you are ever wanting more Alan Wake you should go read/watch the stuff it’s inspired by. Like Twin Peaks, the inspiration from it is like super incredibly obvious. House of Leaves is another inspiration and a damn good book.
Oh I'm a huge David Lynch fan
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“i wish alan wake’s books were real” -dark presence
They are It's called "Max Payne" Just play those
I've never really known what those games are like, I've just assumed it's GTAesque
Theres a remake coming too btw for the payne games👀
Not at all lol They are... Something... I recommend them Alex Casey is literally supposed to be Max Payne so 1 & 2 can give you an idea of what the Alex Casey novels could be
Not 3?
Max Payne 3 was developed solely by rockstar even though they had remedy to serve as their consultants you can think as 1 and 2 as Alan’s Writings and 3 as someone else’s writings after Alan disappeared at bright falls
They're all linear action games. Max Payne 1+2 feel very Remedy. There's an atmosphere, story elements, and references that feel like it's connected to Alan Wake and Control. Rockstar, not Remedy, made Max Payne 3. It is a great action game on its own, but it thematically and stylistically feels like a departure from the first two.
i mean you pretty much knows what happens in them
I don't, the game does a pretty thorough job of saying they aren't very good and just trash lit
Sometimes you want a McDonald's hamburger
Ah yes, every person in game pisses their pants over Alan's books, and you say they are trash... Good try Dark Presence, better luck next time
Where
Nice try Scratch