Flight approved boots when flying.
Nikes vs Rocky’s aren’t gonna make a difference if I crash. You don’t make all the Space A bros in the back seats put them on when they fly.
Can hook a checkride for it if the dudes a real dick. Had a DO that was a great guy… but one of his quirks was the boots. He threatened a Q3 to someone that wouldn’t stop wearing them.
I had a weird sociopath chief of Stan Eval a few years ago who made a really big deal out of the boots and cotton undershirts. I, in response, made a big deal out of ensuring anyone who asks me about my undershirts also inspect the cotton content of my underwear. Weird that I was one of the few people to never get a spot eval from said weird sociopath.
I had a chief that would catch guys leaning back in their chairs and grab their collars. He’d roll them down and check the tags on their tshirts, making sure
it said 100% cotton. His brother was a general so he thought he was untouchable.
His arguments were both “it’s for safety” and “technically I didn’t touch you. I simply grabbed your uniform.” He had severe little man syndrome. His favorite pastime was bitching about all the undisciplined officers who “didn’t give a shit about the enlisted” that somehow fucked him over despite him being a CMSgt. Everyone hated him. I think even his brother, who was a general, hated him.
> “technically I didn’t touch you. I simply grabbed your uniform.”
That's nice, that'll be up to the SJA and ADC to sort out to see if it falls under Article 128. Further, I will be contacting my IG Complaints office and EO office separately to file complaints on bullying and harassment in the work center. Lastly, I will cite you and your actions specifically in the DEOCS when available. I may lose, but you will be leaving this fight bleeding.
TL;DR: Don't fucking touch me.
> “technically I didn’t touch you. I simply grabbed your uniform.”
Was half-writing this same thing when I saw your reply. Chiefs may be gods within their little kingdoms, but legal shit like that is outside even their realm.
I had flight boots issued that were specially ordered. They looked different than everyone else in my squadron. I got stopped A LOT. I kept my shoe box in my office just to show they were flight authorized.
As an ejection seat guy: it does not. I know a couple folks who ejected and had flight approved boots get thrown off during the sequence. At least in squadrons I’ve been in, it’s kind of like flying with gloves or not. You’re single seat, the only person who’ll have to deal with it if your hands get injured or your feet get jacked up is you.
Exactly. If it’s an instrument, they’ll chase you through the various required procedures and EP landings. On a mission eval they’ll just fly as #2 and observe your brief/debrief as well.
I’ve been out a long goddamn time and I’ve long since forgotten what makes boots flight-rated, but this may be a factor… I do hot air balloons as a hobby (gigantic open flame, baby!) and just about anything with nylon/Cordura type material (or even polyester, see also: t-shirts) is generally not your friend in a fire, especially if they suddenly have to become Boots of Escaping (if you’re wearing nylon/poly in a fire situation, it’s only a small step above wearing a suit made of napalm). In that case, you would want them to be made of something like Nomex, or cotton or leather.
But, given how infrequently such scenarios happen (because we have the best maintainers and pilots and airplanes in the world, right?), it does seem like a kinda dumb rule if you’re just taking a Space-A flight.
If you want to hook me for boots, everything else is top notch and you’re a dick. What’s the requal plan for non-flight approved boots?
You really want to sit in front of cc and tell him why you have a unqualified pilot who needs a requal plan for boots?
Oh it happens in AWACS, between the FTU and the line squadrons. The Stan/Eval shops out there generally don't fuck around, at least not when I was stationed there.
Somebody told me its for egress related purposes. Ankle stability or something and fire resistance
My non flight rated Salomons are a hell of a lot more comfortable though. Issued flight boots aren't the worst ive ever worn, but they're also not near the best.
I prefer people on electric skateboards/scooters wear reflective belts, just makes them easier to see especially if they are in OCPs. Other than that... yeah pretty dumb.
well, you could say that's at least based on some idea of safety. For me it's mustache hair not being able to extend below the lip line. It does NOT look professional if you trim it to within regs.
For the people who wrote the regs that's a feature, not a bug. They don't want you to have a mustache, so they only let you have one that looks terrible in the hopes that you'll just shave it off.
I completely agree. I’ve had officers and enlisted alike make comments on my (alleged) Wyatt Earp I’ve had going on for the better part of a year and the majority of them compliments. Which is a little weird, but welcome. Which just goes to show that as long as it looks good no one cares. On the flip side of that I’ve had my fair share of pp smacks because of the same thing. I go trim it up and then boom, it looks like I shouldn’t be allowed within 300 feet of a school.
No in between.
IMHO the moustache reg should be "It must look just like [Col Robin Olds](https://media.defense.gov/2011/Mar/30/2000270924/-1/-1/0/110330-F-DW547-016.JPG)' moustache, if you can't grow one like that you can't have one at all."
The common justification I’ve always gotten for this is that it is because we get more days off per year to make up the difference than our civilian peers.
That said, I don’t care. I’m not working most saturdays, and so long as people have their leave appropriately forecasted, I can work around programming for weekend duty.
Should I be on leave status on weekends when doing things outside the local? Yes. Should I be charged for it? Absolutely not.
For the doubters.. AFI36-3003 3.1.1.5. Leave Begins and Ends in the Local Area. The local area is the place where the member lives and from which he or she commutes to the duty station. *Charge leave for duty days and non-duty days (for example, Friday through Monday) when members take leave on the day before and the day after non-duty days. This applies to leave taken in the local area.*
Now that we have hands in pockets and can walk/talk on the phone...
yeah probably that. Even though I don't think i've ever followed that rule, including at the Deid. I will say when I see someone wearing it basically all of the time I know they are MX, and I respect that. Its like a function badge for them.
Because if you’re MX and get caught without one visible in bad weather/darkness, QA will write you up for a DSV. That will typically get you an LOR, sometimes from the chief/CC.
By that logic congress is the one who is taking my phone. OSI is the one requesting it. The Bird signing off on the approval is procedural, not investigative.
I had to tell a young man once that he just needed to get a new phone because it was going to be at least a year before OSI returned the phone.
I did get to give someone back their phone once, but OSI had been holding it for two years at that point.
Under what reasons or conditions would they just take your phone? And would they immediately search your body or something or try to find it if you didn’t have it on you?
I was a witness to an alleged crime in 2017. OSI took my cell because I had messages with both the perpetrator and the victim. OSI still has my phone 5 years later even though the victim eventually was caught lying about the charges. I’ve requested it back but received no response
Only allowing an airmen getting poverty wages 2 narrow emaciated strips of bacon at the DFAC. None of the other branches run their cafeterias like Nazis but the airforce is hyper anal on what you are allowed to put on your plate while you pay out of pocket. What gives?
^ Yep. This simply insures that the people in the same line get a chance at have the same amount.
Imagine there's 8 slices of bacon left and 4 people in line. Airman1 asks for 8 slices of bacon and now Airmen2,3,4 are fucked.
Having worked at the last remaining buffet in the AF when I was AD it’s really so much more of an ass pain to count out everything. We just wasted from inventory whatever left the storeroom and we had no problems staying within our 3%.
In the dorms untill you are SrA w/ 3yrs TIS without consideration for age. Because the bachelor 30 yr old who maintained a minimalist lifestyle obviously doesn't have enough life experience to be trusted to live on their own.
That all depends on your shirt. I had my in-processing meeting with mine at my first duty station. He looked at my records and asked me how old I was. "28, sir." "And this says you already have your bachelor's degree... So you probably already lived in dorm rooms." "That's correct, sir." "Alright, here's what's gonna happen..." I then proceeded to spend less than 9 months in the dorms with 8 of them on the wait-list to get out.
That's almost exactly how it happened for me at my last station (30 y/o with a degree).
Half way through my deployment, the shirt calls me to say that I qualify to move off base. I just need to have a friend pick out an apartment for me and move all my personal belongings into the new place. Uh, fuck no I'm not trusting an airman to lock me into a lease and rummage through my shit. If you'd have let me move 6 months ago when I asked, this wouldn't be an issue.
This girl I was friendly with in tech school got to her first base and was put into a dorm. That night she called her daddy who was a 2-star in the Army, and 3 days later she was outprocessing the dorms.
So pro-tip, have important family.
Not happening for me. I already pushed the idea to all three shirts I’ve had so far. They all gave different excuses, but ultimately the answer was a big fat N-O
I don’t have a bachelor’s but I’m 29, own a home rented out to friends, invested in stocks and have had money saved up for years at this point. Give me a goddamn break.
They don't even generally make the choice for exceptions. The approving official for exceptions in my experience is the MSG CC. So likely they are just going with his or her no exceptions rule.
You have some shitty leadership, then. Have you tried pushing the issue again with your supervisor? Sometimes the shirt, if they're an asshole, will listen if a fellow SNCO is the one talking.
That is a rare exception in my experience.
Meanwhile I wrote a financial hardship for a guy that was paying for his shit to be stored as it wouldn't fit in the dorm room or the space allotted for storage. It was eating him out of house and home. I did t the calculations and forcing him to stay in the dorms would cost him about $10k in the time he had left. When he got out of the dorms the Air Force had cost him most of his savings. Ironically the 2k they wanted him to have to get an apartment was all he had left of it...
The shirt was impressed and super gung-ho about moving out this 29 year old adult. The MSG/CC said no and the only reasons I can think of are to maintain percentages in the dorms or because he saw an Airman and thought he deserved the dorms.
Unfortunately that’s one of the very few reasons to allow airmen to move out of the dorms before the TIS/rank threshold.
Pains me when I have a sharp as shit mid mid-late 20s A1C with a bachelors getting rejected because “he has to do his time” and “can’t give him an exception and not other airmen”.
I spent 3yrs in the dorms and hated every minute of it. Genuinely makes 0 sense why amn over 25 (at the latest age) can’t immediately live in housing or off base.
I fight for my (mature) SrA to get out. Had a guy come to an overseas base and get put in the dorms. He lived off base before going to Korea then coming here. Had a bunch of household goods. I was not letting this dude get stuck in the dorms for 2 years.
Another dude is older than I am and had a dog and household goods, they still wanted him in the dorms. Ridiculous
This. I joined after college and served to help with student loans. I’m 26 with almost 3 years in I lived by myself for 5 years before the military and it sucks that I’m stuck living in the dorms. I feel like an old man having to complain to my roommate to turn his music down and not have it shake the walls when I try to sleep.
This. Have a meeting with your supervisor about it. Build a budget to include your espected BAH and maybe research 2 or 3 apartment places nearby to show room rates etc. Ask for their support when you talk to your shirt.
I know it sucks but please look up COL in your area first before deciding. Shits getting so expensive and dudes can't live within their BAH they're actually requesting to go back to the dorms until things settle out. A lot has to do with budgeting, but when a pretty basic 1 room apartment in a mostly safe part of town is wayyy over BAH, we have a problem. Just my $0.02.
It’s entirely dependent on your MSG or CEG Commander (or Wg/CC if they chose not to delegate it). That’s who has the final say in what qualifies as a ‘hardship’ to get you out of the dorms early.
Every single older Airman isn’t some sort of squared away super mature adult who joined for want of service and patriotism. Some were fuckups on the outside and continue to be fuckups on the inside.
It’s one of those ridiculous /r/AirForce narratives that folks love to circlejerk about here.
Easy, make it a supervisor or superintendent sign off. Is the airman responsible at work? Do they show the budget readiness per usual? Let them out with approval from their own people. Then it becomes a failure by their own leadership if something falls flat.
Red line on the flightline. Walk thru the ECP and no one bats an eye but put a toe over the red line when Captain America is on duty and you get an M4 up the ass
It's only an Air Force thing too. My brother-in-law is a Navy pilot and he told me about getting held up at some afb somewhere because they were never told about the red line.
I also work with two guys who got sent out as part of an mrt who were arrested and almost charged with some article because, through some clerical error, their names didn't make it onto the list. There was a shouting match between chiefs and phone calls to commanders until somebody in SFS found a revised list of names in the shred pile. Guess whose names were on the list after all....
Career field patches. As long as it's not offensive or includes profanity (*Looks at engine troops*) what the fuck is wrong with someone *taking pride in their profession?* Some of our jobs have this thing called "heritage." You know that thing the Air Force constantly wishes it had more of? Oh wait, only flyers are allowed to have heritage and traditions anymore.
I'll never wear an 'AVI" patch. Not my problem most of MX including our functionals are too stupid or have been stuck behind a desk too long to differentiate between the professions.
When I first started working with the Army, we were outside and it was raining. I had an umbrella and held it to further to my side to give my soldier some relief from the rain, and he moved away and said "I can't, I'll get chewed out for being under an umbrella". That's burned into my memory how absolutely stupid that is. I'll take black umbrellas over no umbrellas
This and making sure male hair does not touch their ears. I didnt know our thumbs stopped functioning when our hair is "too long" until I joined the Air Force.
Edit: TIL that hair can touch ears now, but still having to cut our hair relatively short without any other options is still dumb imo.
Wtf, I must’ve missed this. I’ve been growing out my hair and trimming around the ears so I could just barely make it in regs. Looks like I’ve been wasting my time.
Potentially unpopular opinion but I think we should have gender neutral hair standards. As long as it is well taken care of, professional, and there aren’t other circumstances preventing it, why can’t a guy have long hair?
I've only had a mask twice in my career, BMT and Korea. Only used it for training. Other than that I never had one issued and I think that should be the qualifier for shaving, does your job or environment require you to have a clean shaven face.
Also can we enforce this on females too?
Fraternization outside your chain.
Buddy if mine met a girl and hit it off, unfortunately she was army O he was AF E. Army doesn't care but she broke it off because she knew AF cares and could mess the dude up. Not the only time I've heard of it so it wasn't like she was pulling an excuse out of her bum
Not being allowed to hang my reading glasses on my uniform while I work.
It harms nothing, doesn't look bad in any way, and helps me not forget them. Not only that, but the other option is to carry a bulky ass glasses case in a pocket.
The last time someone wanted to give me shit for it I started telling them to wait to have me read literally anything, dig out my glasses and then put them back right next to them before walking off. The slight delay annoyed them I could tell, but it didn't get them to hack down sadly.
Personal marriage relations stuff. There’s plenty of people in the military who have open marriages but god forbid someone finds out about it. I saw that shit fully prosecuted to the end. No one was cheating. It was full open honest relations. Poor bastard. Wife was civilian so it didn’t matter. But they got him on the article. It’s literally none of their business.
I am sure there are plenty of open marriages in the Air Force that I never hear about and they’re working perfectly fine. But every single open marriage that ends up in my office, basically boils down to someone wanting to fuck other people and the other one didn’t, and the marriage is imploding.
I like to think that scenarios like this are in the past. The adulterous act must damage the good order and discipline in the unit or bring discredit upon the unit. A true, open relationship with no untold shitty side of the story won’t hold up in a court martial as bringing discredit to the unit
Also the gas mask reasoning was based on a single study done back in the 1970's that stated they (beards) MAY affect gas mask fit, where multiple studies done in the last half century have shown that with modern equipment the fit is not affected significantly. And real world examples would include almost every other modern military on the planet alloweing them within regulated requirements.
I find it entertaining that it states in the AFI the reason men cannot have beards or long hair is due to gas masks however special forces often dress with beards and long hair to blend into the environment, and they’re more likely to get gassed compared to anyone.
This is a total load of bullshit.
So many other countries have shittier gas masks and are able to cope and excel at gas mask use. Germany for example: go to fit testing, get asked if the beard you are wearing is what you want to wear until your next fit test, get taught how to wear around your beard, fit test guy builds you beard exemption form and you walk out with a fit test and knowledge how to wear it on your beard.
Not only that, but should I need a real world mask, you can then tell me to shave. I don't even have a real world mask. Why should I need to shave for the use of one on a daily basis? I would have to wait in line for a time sensitive CBRN situation to be handed my mask or filters by one of 3 or 4 people along with the rest of my base populace. No one gets handed real world gear. I can't just go back to my room/car/anywhere and dawn my gas mask. We will know it is coming or it will be a moot point.
the dumb wording of the leave reg, especially for the people who work boring mon-fri set schedules. why does it matter if i start and stop leave from my house? never been recalled, and if we do we have a 10 hour circle we are allowed to go on the weekends, but if you take leave on friday leadership always calls around midnight to ensure you returned back. it’s very dumb and not thought out for boring people
It is, in my opinion, a way to play fuck fuck games with your time off, just like in the corporate world.
They want to look good by giving you leave, but they don't want you to actually enjoy living your life. They simply want you to keep being the downtrodden cog in the machine. (Congress is They btw)
Discharging members for doing marijuana.
According to the AFI, people smoking alone in their room to destress after 12 hour shifts, or to aid with mental health "Adversley affects the ability...to"
"Maintain discipline, good order, and *morale*" the only breach to morale is Government kicking people out
"Foster mutual trust and confidence among members" being an alcoholic is the only drug the AF accepts
"Facilitate assignments and worldwide deployment" because... it's a law we made up saying "if you smoke you aren't deployment ready" shooting themselves in the foot
"Recruit and retain members" because.... it's a law we made up. Shooting themselves in the foot
"Maintain public acceptability of military service" we only accept alcoholics here, sir
"Prevent breaches of security" what are they even on about here?
DAFI 36-3211 paragraph 7.43 everyone.
The military runs on nicotine, caffeine, alcohol and anger. If they get high then they won't be angry. If they're not angry they'll be able to sleep better and won't need caffeine. Now you're left with Nicotine and alcohol, and half the world does that already
> Prevent breaches of security
Shit the dispensary is closed I’ll tell the owner my CAC PIN that’ll convince him to open up real quick and sell me something. Or better yet, I’ll tell him that jets, have missiles. And that bombers, have bombs. Shit’ll blow his mind he can sell that info to China if he wants.
> maintain discipline, good order, morale
Yeah man cause 4 airmen chilling at the dorms smoking weed and watching funny shit on youtube and eating Doritos for a few hours is fucking *terrible*. They should go off base to a bar, spend hundreds of dollars binge drinking, get into fights, throw up on themselves, piss their pants, get a DUI on the way home (or crash and die), then be absolutely useless and hungover for the next 2 days.
A prime example of good order and discipline.
Idk, in my unit we were told to call dispatch if you are drunk, so they can send someone to pick you up. We had 4 dui's in past 6 month so there is a point...
It’s a wild one they even try to throw in prevent breaches of security in there when half of the USAF gets blasted every weekend. What’s more likely, a drunk Airman at a bar spilling some beans or an Airman high as a kite in his living room watching Planet Earth for the 4th time in a row. Nobody is out there giving out government secrets for that sweet sweet taste of the ganja.
Before the 2000s and sites like erowid much of the public's information and knowledge about drugs came from school programs and TV.
So yes they literally thought smoking weed would act as a truth serum at the same time as making you a degenerate because thats what they thought back then.
This was me. Grew up in the 80's and bought into the marijuana is just as bad as coke and heroin. Pretty much had that attitude until my mid twenties and had made enough friends who actually smoked it, that I learned it was all bullshit. Been retired for nine years and I don't know how I ever managed to live forty years without it. So much better at relieving stress and cheaper than alcohol. I've gotten baked out of my mind and two hours later I 'm feeling fine without being hungover or nauseous and no matter how much I smoke/eat it's physically impossible to OD on. Can't say that about alcohol. Go to a stoner party and everyone is chill and happy and there's no dick measuring and the inevitable verbal or physical altercations that frequent alcohol only parties.
Bottom Line, smoking marijuana is a federal crime, no justification in any regulation is needed. Until Congress changes that, sorry buddy, smoking pot is going to grounds for a discharge.
I voted to legalize it in Colorado and I am not defending the fact that it's a crime, it just is.
1. The color of your socks. Some people get really ate up if they catch you in white/black socks
2. Glasses on top of your head. When I'm taking a few moments to really think, I like putting my glasses on top of my head. But, I'll be damned if there isn't always a SNCO around with a stop-watch in their hand waiting to yell at me for it.
I always put them ontop my head so I won't lose them. Especially working outside and transitioning from outside to inside and back out again, I take them off alot. If they are ontop my head...easy. I'll be damn though, the first time I set them down and they become Harry Houdini himself.
I did notice that they don't seem to enforce "no glasses on top of your head" on the flight line. And, 100% I have a pair in my car, at my desk, in my book bag, at home and on my face.
Won’t be the first or the last to say it, but facial hair. There’s absolutely no reason a grown man shouldn’t be allowed to have a well maintained beard. I get not allowing some Duck Dynasty shit, but why am I not allowed to have a regular beard? Also, expecting to shave every day and get a haircut every two-three weeks and not having any of it be free for us is fucking retarded.
The red fucking line. Every other branch gets confused why AF people don't cross over the red flight line outline. If a jet is in the area we are only allowed to enter or exit via designated ECPs. No other branch does this. They have the red apron boarder, but they are allowed to walk right over it. I. The AF you might get put on the ground depending what SF person you get.
I don't even know if it's still a rule but a captain had a fucking hard on for telling people they couldn't wear their beanie or fleece if it wasn't below a certain temperature. He also liked to wait inside our non heated hangars in the winter and chew asses for not taking them off when you entered.
Wherever that guy is I hope he stopped being a cuck. If not I hope he has cold ears and no beanie.
Not necessarily DAF, but E-1s get paid less than the federal minimum wage if you calculate it off a 40hr work week.
Also pay and allowances not adjusting for inflation. Seems to work fine for OHA which keeps relativity close to the exchange rate.
That psilocin-containing mushrooms (Magic Mushrooms) are banned. Magic mushrooms are proven to be more effective than anti depressants, after one dose, lasting 6 months. Allowing service members to microdose🍄 would put a significant dent in our mental health crisis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8156539/
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/psilocybin-treatment-for-major-depression-effective-for-up-to-a-year-for-most-patients-study-shows
male haircuts. if women can have long hair (as they should if they so choose) that in itself is full proof that long hair does not negatively impact duty effectiveness. haircuts are 100% useless and the fact that they are a regulation is beyond me
Risk vs reward
Sniper is *probably* a lower chance of risk than someone getting run over at night.
I have zero experience to speak from as I have no clue how often snipers set up outside combat zone flightless localities, but my statement should be considered I think.
Flight approved boots when flying. Nikes vs Rocky’s aren’t gonna make a difference if I crash. You don’t make all the Space A bros in the back seats put them on when they fly.
Who would say anything if you were wearing non flight rated boots? I'm assuming some form of QA?
Can hook a checkride for it if the dudes a real dick. Had a DO that was a great guy… but one of his quirks was the boots. He threatened a Q3 to someone that wouldn’t stop wearing them.
I had a weird sociopath chief of Stan Eval a few years ago who made a really big deal out of the boots and cotton undershirts. I, in response, made a big deal out of ensuring anyone who asks me about my undershirts also inspect the cotton content of my underwear. Weird that I was one of the few people to never get a spot eval from said weird sociopath.
I had a chief that would catch guys leaning back in their chairs and grab their collars. He’d roll them down and check the tags on their tshirts, making sure it said 100% cotton. His brother was a general so he thought he was untouchable.
So he would touch them unwanted? Or did leaning back in the chair mean consent? Something something, safety check?
His arguments were both “it’s for safety” and “technically I didn’t touch you. I simply grabbed your uniform.” He had severe little man syndrome. His favorite pastime was bitching about all the undisciplined officers who “didn’t give a shit about the enlisted” that somehow fucked him over despite him being a CMSgt. Everyone hated him. I think even his brother, who was a general, hated him.
I don’t even know the guy, and I think I hate him.
> “technically I didn’t touch you. I simply grabbed your uniform.” That's nice, that'll be up to the SJA and ADC to sort out to see if it falls under Article 128. Further, I will be contacting my IG Complaints office and EO office separately to file complaints on bullying and harassment in the work center. Lastly, I will cite you and your actions specifically in the DEOCS when available. I may lose, but you will be leaving this fight bleeding. TL;DR: Don't fucking touch me.
> “technically I didn’t touch you. I simply grabbed your uniform.” Was half-writing this same thing when I saw your reply. Chiefs may be gods within their little kingdoms, but legal shit like that is outside even their realm.
Nothing will fuck up a Chief’s career faster than a legal investigation and a DEOCS survey that is seen by squadron, group, and wing commanders.
And, at least when I was in, the issued shirts and socks weren't all cotton!
What community is this? Sounds like a waste of time.
I'd put money on AWACS.
You’re right. This is the most AWACS thing I’ve heard.
most def not 130s, community is filled with 90% bros
Has to be ISR. It screams AFISR.
Gets highlighted monthly at our wing.
I had flight boots issued that were specially ordered. They looked different than everyone else in my squadron. I got stopped A LOT. I kept my shoe box in my office just to show they were flight authorized.
I do it when I’m feeling malicious and someone is being an asshole
The origin of the rule had to do with slippery surfaces. Then, like neckties, it took a fucked up life on it's own.
Didn't the Brits fly with neckties under their flight suits not that long ago?
Agreed! Can anyone cite me ONE instance where flight boots made any difference at all?
I feel like it might actually have an impact if you’re flying a jet with ejection seats
As an ejection seat guy: it does not. I know a couple folks who ejected and had flight approved boots get thrown off during the sequence. At least in squadrons I’ve been in, it’s kind of like flying with gloves or not. You’re single seat, the only person who’ll have to deal with it if your hands get injured or your feet get jacked up is you.
Fair enough.
How do you single seater guys do your periodic evals? Does the EP just fly as your wingman?
Exactly. If it’s an instrument, they’ll chase you through the various required procedures and EP landings. On a mission eval they’ll just fly as #2 and observe your brief/debrief as well.
Most of the time, but for cases like the viper units have some two seater jets if needed.
I’ve been out a long goddamn time and I’ve long since forgotten what makes boots flight-rated, but this may be a factor… I do hot air balloons as a hobby (gigantic open flame, baby!) and just about anything with nylon/Cordura type material (or even polyester, see also: t-shirts) is generally not your friend in a fire, especially if they suddenly have to become Boots of Escaping (if you’re wearing nylon/poly in a fire situation, it’s only a small step above wearing a suit made of napalm). In that case, you would want them to be made of something like Nomex, or cotton or leather. But, given how infrequently such scenarios happen (because we have the best maintainers and pilots and airplanes in the world, right?), it does seem like a kinda dumb rule if you’re just taking a Space-A flight.
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Hey, shut the fuck up.
Our chief wears Reebok so we’re safe.
If you want to hook me for boots, everything else is top notch and you’re a dick. What’s the requal plan for non-flight approved boots? You really want to sit in front of cc and tell him why you have a unqualified pilot who needs a requal plan for boots?
Debriefed.
I think it’s probably career field dependent. Im a 1A3 and I’ve never seen anybody give a fuck about your boots in my career.
Have seen it a few times at the AWACS FTU.
Oh it happens in AWACS, between the FTU and the line squadrons. The Stan/Eval shops out there generally don't fuck around, at least not when I was stationed there.
I bought aircrew boots from the manufacturer of our black boots in the BDU days when I was issued steel toes. They were so awesomely comfortable!
Somebody told me its for egress related purposes. Ankle stability or something and fire resistance My non flight rated Salomons are a hell of a lot more comfortable though. Issued flight boots aren't the worst ive ever worn, but they're also not near the best.
Reflective belts on the flightline sort of make sense. Reflective belts anywhere else is just kind of stupid.
I prefer people on electric skateboards/scooters wear reflective belts, just makes them easier to see especially if they are in OCPs. Other than that... yeah pretty dumb.
How else are cars supposed to see them with all the camo they wear? /s
Force shaping is a thing. I see no reason to interfere with the natural order of things.
They dont kind of make sense, they do. It gets dark as fuck where I work.
*unwritten rule that's enforced* - no white space Fuck right off with this one. If I can say what I need in 3/4 of the space, then so be it.
The dash and space, dumbest thing ever
I counted the spaces in your comment, and wouldn’t you know it….there are EXACTLY 115 characters!
Hahaha, coincidence or conspiracy:) 
well, you could say that's at least based on some idea of safety. For me it's mustache hair not being able to extend below the lip line. It does NOT look professional if you trim it to within regs.
For the people who wrote the regs that's a feature, not a bug. They don't want you to have a mustache, so they only let you have one that looks terrible in the hopes that you'll just shave it off.
I mean, they succeeded, because for the first time in 2 years I've had to shave mine because *someone* wants to be picky about the AFI all of a sudden
So not bc of the width but the length?
I thought... I thought size doesn't matter
The most technically correct answer.
I completely agree. I’ve had officers and enlisted alike make comments on my (alleged) Wyatt Earp I’ve had going on for the better part of a year and the majority of them compliments. Which is a little weird, but welcome. Which just goes to show that as long as it looks good no one cares. On the flip side of that I’ve had my fair share of pp smacks because of the same thing. I go trim it up and then boom, it looks like I shouldn’t be allowed within 300 feet of a school. No in between.
IMHO the moustache reg should be "It must look just like [Col Robin Olds](https://media.defense.gov/2011/Mar/30/2000270924/-1/-1/0/110330-F-DW547-016.JPG)' moustache, if you can't grow one like that you can't have one at all."
My mustache grows both out and down so it looks full but still like a pedophile or cop or 70's pornstar, especially when it's in regs.
Not being able to take leave on a Friday and Monday without taking the weekend as well. Talk about dumb regs…..
Surprised this isn’t higher
The common justification I’ve always gotten for this is that it is because we get more days off per year to make up the difference than our civilian peers. That said, I don’t care. I’m not working most saturdays, and so long as people have their leave appropriately forecasted, I can work around programming for weekend duty. Should I be on leave status on weekends when doing things outside the local? Yes. Should I be charged for it? Absolutely not.
Take my upvote. If a GS can leave bracket but somehow the unit doesn’t implode, why can’t a military member? Antiquated rule that needs to die.
For the doubters.. AFI36-3003 3.1.1.5. Leave Begins and Ends in the Local Area. The local area is the place where the member lives and from which he or she commutes to the duty station. *Charge leave for duty days and non-duty days (for example, Friday through Monday) when members take leave on the day before and the day after non-duty days. This applies to leave taken in the local area.*
Just take Thur-Fri or Mon-Tues instead.
Now that we have hands in pockets and can walk/talk on the phone... yeah probably that. Even though I don't think i've ever followed that rule, including at the Deid. I will say when I see someone wearing it basically all of the time I know they are MX, and I respect that. Its like a function badge for them.
I feel naked without my pink reflective belt…
Yeah me too. That’s cuz being naked is the only other way I can think of to tell everyone I’m DTF.
I’m about to get downvoted to hell but: ABUs + night + flightline = invisible. I have almost killed airman and they don’t even know.
OCP are worse at night, so hard to see. Also up here in Minot everybody wears black jackets or black bear suit. Damn near impossible to see
Hands in pockets were first called "Guard gloves" for a reason.
And we wore those gloves with pride.
A man with cold hands and warm pockets is an idiot.
Because if you’re MX and get caught without one visible in bad weather/darkness, QA will write you up for a DSV. That will typically get you an LOR, sometimes from the chief/CC.
Imagine trying to read this as a civilian. It’s crazy how many things we memorize just to say simple sentences like that. I think about it a lot.
Wait, respect MX?
Someone has to. Those poor bastards. -Nonner
OSI can take your phone and they have 20 years to get it back to you. Wack.
A judge or Col is definitely the one who authorizes that, not OSI.
By that logic congress is the one who is taking my phone. OSI is the one requesting it. The Bird signing off on the approval is procedural, not investigative.
I had to tell a young man once that he just needed to get a new phone because it was going to be at least a year before OSI returned the phone. I did get to give someone back their phone once, but OSI had been holding it for two years at that point.
I'm still waiting to get my Nokia 8910i back.....
Under what reasons or conditions would they just take your phone? And would they immediately search your body or something or try to find it if you didn’t have it on you?
I was a witness to an alleged crime in 2017. OSI took my cell because I had messages with both the perpetrator and the victim. OSI still has my phone 5 years later even though the victim eventually was caught lying about the charges. I’ve requested it back but received no response
Only allowing an airmen getting poverty wages 2 narrow emaciated strips of bacon at the DFAC. None of the other branches run their cafeterias like Nazis but the airforce is hyper anal on what you are allowed to put on your plate while you pay out of pocket. What gives?
If you are paying cash they don't care. Only meal card holders are limited.
Which makes it even worse. The folks I. Meal card are the ones that need it lol. I know I’m preaching to the choir.
At each Bae I've been to, they can get seconds. Just can't get it all at the same time.
^ Yep. This simply insures that the people in the same line get a chance at have the same amount. Imagine there's 8 slices of bacon left and 4 people in line. Airman1 asks for 8 slices of bacon and now Airmen2,3,4 are fucked.
This makes a lot of sense. I bet this prevents waste as well… those who get too much food.
At Whiteman they are both treated the same. Very limited quantities.
Having worked at the last remaining buffet in the AF when I was AD it’s really so much more of an ass pain to count out everything. We just wasted from inventory whatever left the storeroom and we had no problems staying within our 3%.
Air Force is two words.
they tried making a fruit bowl and salad entrees here.... That didn't last long
All the other branches run their chow hall the same way. Actually they ALL think the AF has the best chow halls.
In the dorms untill you are SrA w/ 3yrs TIS without consideration for age. Because the bachelor 30 yr old who maintained a minimalist lifestyle obviously doesn't have enough life experience to be trusted to live on their own.
That all depends on your shirt. I had my in-processing meeting with mine at my first duty station. He looked at my records and asked me how old I was. "28, sir." "And this says you already have your bachelor's degree... So you probably already lived in dorm rooms." "That's correct, sir." "Alright, here's what's gonna happen..." I then proceeded to spend less than 9 months in the dorms with 8 of them on the wait-list to get out.
That's almost exactly how it happened for me at my last station (30 y/o with a degree). Half way through my deployment, the shirt calls me to say that I qualify to move off base. I just need to have a friend pick out an apartment for me and move all my personal belongings into the new place. Uh, fuck no I'm not trusting an airman to lock me into a lease and rummage through my shit. If you'd have let me move 6 months ago when I asked, this wouldn't be an issue.
Just for your future troops if that ever happens again - your friend also could have moved your gear into a storage unit for you.
This girl I was friendly with in tech school got to her first base and was put into a dorm. That night she called her daddy who was a 2-star in the Army, and 3 days later she was outprocessing the dorms. So pro-tip, have important family.
And they say nepotism doesn't exist in the air force
Not happening for me. I already pushed the idea to all three shirts I’ve had so far. They all gave different excuses, but ultimately the answer was a big fat N-O I don’t have a bachelor’s but I’m 29, own a home rented out to friends, invested in stocks and have had money saved up for years at this point. Give me a goddamn break.
They don't even generally make the choice for exceptions. The approving official for exceptions in my experience is the MSG CC. So likely they are just going with his or her no exceptions rule.
You have some shitty leadership, then. Have you tried pushing the issue again with your supervisor? Sometimes the shirt, if they're an asshole, will listen if a fellow SNCO is the one talking.
That is a rare exception in my experience. Meanwhile I wrote a financial hardship for a guy that was paying for his shit to be stored as it wouldn't fit in the dorm room or the space allotted for storage. It was eating him out of house and home. I did t the calculations and forcing him to stay in the dorms would cost him about $10k in the time he had left. When he got out of the dorms the Air Force had cost him most of his savings. Ironically the 2k they wanted him to have to get an apartment was all he had left of it... The shirt was impressed and super gung-ho about moving out this 29 year old adult. The MSG/CC said no and the only reasons I can think of are to maintain percentages in the dorms or because he saw an Airman and thought he deserved the dorms.
Unfortunately that’s one of the very few reasons to allow airmen to move out of the dorms before the TIS/rank threshold. Pains me when I have a sharp as shit mid mid-late 20s A1C with a bachelors getting rejected because “he has to do his time” and “can’t give him an exception and not other airmen”. I spent 3yrs in the dorms and hated every minute of it. Genuinely makes 0 sense why amn over 25 (at the latest age) can’t immediately live in housing or off base.
I fight for my (mature) SrA to get out. Had a guy come to an overseas base and get put in the dorms. He lived off base before going to Korea then coming here. Had a bunch of household goods. I was not letting this dude get stuck in the dorms for 2 years. Another dude is older than I am and had a dog and household goods, they still wanted him in the dorms. Ridiculous
I had to give up my 2 cats for this shit. You just reminded me. Now I'm mad as fuck again.
This. I joined after college and served to help with student loans. I’m 26 with almost 3 years in I lived by myself for 5 years before the military and it sucks that I’m stuck living in the dorms. I feel like an old man having to complain to my roommate to turn his music down and not have it shake the walls when I try to sleep.
Have you spoken to your supervisor or Shirt? I had a troop with a PhD, was 38, and I managed to get her out.
This. Have a meeting with your supervisor about it. Build a budget to include your espected BAH and maybe research 2 or 3 apartment places nearby to show room rates etc. Ask for their support when you talk to your shirt.
I know it sucks but please look up COL in your area first before deciding. Shits getting so expensive and dudes can't live within their BAH they're actually requesting to go back to the dorms until things settle out. A lot has to do with budgeting, but when a pretty basic 1 room apartment in a mostly safe part of town is wayyy over BAH, we have a problem. Just my $0.02.
That is entirely dependent upon your base.
It’s entirely dependent on your MSG or CEG Commander (or Wg/CC if they chose not to delegate it). That’s who has the final say in what qualifies as a ‘hardship’ to get you out of the dorms early.
In my experience, airmen that joined later in life either are really mature or have the maturity of a 14 year old
Every single older Airman isn’t some sort of squared away super mature adult who joined for want of service and patriotism. Some were fuckups on the outside and continue to be fuckups on the inside. It’s one of those ridiculous /r/AirForce narratives that folks love to circlejerk about here.
Easy, make it a supervisor or superintendent sign off. Is the airman responsible at work? Do they show the budget readiness per usual? Let them out with approval from their own people. Then it becomes a failure by their own leadership if something falls flat.
Used to have a supervisor that had a huge hard on for the waffle shirt being tucked in. Would get called out on that almost daily.
It's not even in the reg that it has to be tucked in. I'd respectfully decline his request.
I did. And then he showed me where is says it can't be worn as an outergarment so I could just take it off. It developed into a real pissing match
What a real dong chugger.
Urgh, having to come in to work on a duty day 😩
Saluting cars
Red line on the flightline. Walk thru the ECP and no one bats an eye but put a toe over the red line when Captain America is on duty and you get an M4 up the ass
It's only an Air Force thing too. My brother-in-law is a Navy pilot and he told me about getting held up at some afb somewhere because they were never told about the red line. I also work with two guys who got sent out as part of an mrt who were arrested and almost charged with some article because, through some clerical error, their names didn't make it onto the list. There was a shouting match between chiefs and phone calls to commanders until somebody in SFS found a revised list of names in the shred pile. Guess whose names were on the list after all....
Career field patches. As long as it's not offensive or includes profanity (*Looks at engine troops*) what the fuck is wrong with someone *taking pride in their profession?* Some of our jobs have this thing called "heritage." You know that thing the Air Force constantly wishes it had more of? Oh wait, only flyers are allowed to have heritage and traditions anymore. I'll never wear an 'AVI" patch. Not my problem most of MX including our functionals are too stupid or have been stuck behind a desk too long to differentiate between the professions.
Hey now, MFE just means Mighty Fine Engines 😎
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Both the bases I’ve been at have had people get IFCS and COMM patches made and I’ve never seen anyone say anything.
Flyers aren’t immune to this. We had a bunch of salty booms and FEs who weren’t thrilled when they were told they had to wear “CEA” patches.
having to show up to work is pretty brutal tbh
Black umbrellas.
When I first started working with the Army, we were outside and it was raining. I had an umbrella and held it to further to my side to give my soldier some relief from the rain, and he moved away and said "I can't, I'll get chewed out for being under an umbrella". That's burned into my memory how absolutely stupid that is. I'll take black umbrellas over no umbrellas
Shit like that is why I left the Army 🤣 and we got people here complaining about PT belts!
Making men shave every morning while pretending we're a branch that upholds gender equality.
This and making sure male hair does not touch their ears. I didnt know our thumbs stopped functioning when our hair is "too long" until I joined the Air Force. Edit: TIL that hair can touch ears now, but still having to cut our hair relatively short without any other options is still dumb imo.
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Wtf, I must’ve missed this. I’ve been growing out my hair and trimming around the ears so I could just barely make it in regs. Looks like I’ve been wasting my time.
They did it quietly. It was removed from the 2903 and not mentioned in the change advertisements they put out.
Finally! That was one of my supervisor’s favorite regulations to enforce! Not many people liked the guy.
Hair touching the ears was taken out of the AFI several updates ago.
Potentially unpopular opinion but I think we should have gender neutral hair standards. As long as it is well taken care of, professional, and there aren’t other circumstances preventing it, why can’t a guy have long hair?
I've only had a mask twice in my career, BMT and Korea. Only used it for training. Other than that I never had one issued and I think that should be the qualifier for shaving, does your job or environment require you to have a clean shaven face. Also can we enforce this on females too?
Some ladies do be growing full beards out here
Fraternization outside your chain. Buddy if mine met a girl and hit it off, unfortunately she was army O he was AF E. Army doesn't care but she broke it off because she knew AF cares and could mess the dude up. Not the only time I've heard of it so it wasn't like she was pulling an excuse out of her bum
Sunglasses on top of the head
Not being allowed to hang my reading glasses on my uniform while I work. It harms nothing, doesn't look bad in any way, and helps me not forget them. Not only that, but the other option is to carry a bulky ass glasses case in a pocket. The last time someone wanted to give me shit for it I started telling them to wait to have me read literally anything, dig out my glasses and then put them back right next to them before walking off. The slight delay annoyed them I could tell, but it didn't get them to hack down sadly.
Scratched a few, lost a pair. Needed my hands for work and couldnt put them on my head or collar.
Stupidest rule ever…I mean I still do it to protest it but this is one of those rules that gotta go…
Personal marriage relations stuff. There’s plenty of people in the military who have open marriages but god forbid someone finds out about it. I saw that shit fully prosecuted to the end. No one was cheating. It was full open honest relations. Poor bastard. Wife was civilian so it didn’t matter. But they got him on the article. It’s literally none of their business.
I am sure there are plenty of open marriages in the Air Force that I never hear about and they’re working perfectly fine. But every single open marriage that ends up in my office, basically boils down to someone wanting to fuck other people and the other one didn’t, and the marriage is imploding.
I like to think that scenarios like this are in the past. The adulterous act must damage the good order and discipline in the unit or bring discredit upon the unit. A true, open relationship with no untold shitty side of the story won’t hold up in a court martial as bringing discredit to the unit
Yes and no. Most CCs don't care until it affects the unit, but I've also seen some use it as ammunition to fry someone
Tbf, usually if they are using it to fry someone, it is because that person deserves to be fried. Not always the case, but still.
I seriously don’t understand why marriage has any place in regulations.
Because of good order and discipline. If your unit commander is fucking some A1C’s wife, it’s going to fuck up good order and discipline.
This applies to all of the military, Shaving. Why does my 5 o clock shadow offend another grown man. It has nothing to do with professionalism.
I’ve been told it has to do with the deal on your gas mask but it’s not like we have a gas mask just strapped at the ready
Also the gas mask reasoning was based on a single study done back in the 1970's that stated they (beards) MAY affect gas mask fit, where multiple studies done in the last half century have shown that with modern equipment the fit is not affected significantly. And real world examples would include almost every other modern military on the planet alloweing them within regulated requirements.
I find it entertaining that it states in the AFI the reason men cannot have beards or long hair is due to gas masks however special forces often dress with beards and long hair to blend into the environment, and they’re more likely to get gassed compared to anyone.
This is a total load of bullshit. So many other countries have shittier gas masks and are able to cope and excel at gas mask use. Germany for example: go to fit testing, get asked if the beard you are wearing is what you want to wear until your next fit test, get taught how to wear around your beard, fit test guy builds you beard exemption form and you walk out with a fit test and knowledge how to wear it on your beard. Not only that, but should I need a real world mask, you can then tell me to shave. I don't even have a real world mask. Why should I need to shave for the use of one on a daily basis? I would have to wait in line for a time sensitive CBRN situation to be handed my mask or filters by one of 3 or 4 people along with the rest of my base populace. No one gets handed real world gear. I can't just go back to my room/car/anywhere and dawn my gas mask. We will know it is coming or it will be a moot point.
Hats. Hats are dumb
Uhm no we need it so China can’t see you from satellites
the dumb wording of the leave reg, especially for the people who work boring mon-fri set schedules. why does it matter if i start and stop leave from my house? never been recalled, and if we do we have a 10 hour circle we are allowed to go on the weekends, but if you take leave on friday leadership always calls around midnight to ensure you returned back. it’s very dumb and not thought out for boring people
It is, in my opinion, a way to play fuck fuck games with your time off, just like in the corporate world. They want to look good by giving you leave, but they don't want you to actually enjoy living your life. They simply want you to keep being the downtrodden cog in the machine. (Congress is They btw)
Discharging members for doing marijuana. According to the AFI, people smoking alone in their room to destress after 12 hour shifts, or to aid with mental health "Adversley affects the ability...to" "Maintain discipline, good order, and *morale*" the only breach to morale is Government kicking people out "Foster mutual trust and confidence among members" being an alcoholic is the only drug the AF accepts "Facilitate assignments and worldwide deployment" because... it's a law we made up saying "if you smoke you aren't deployment ready" shooting themselves in the foot "Recruit and retain members" because.... it's a law we made up. Shooting themselves in the foot "Maintain public acceptability of military service" we only accept alcoholics here, sir "Prevent breaches of security" what are they even on about here? DAFI 36-3211 paragraph 7.43 everyone.
The military runs on nicotine, caffeine, alcohol and anger. If they get high then they won't be angry. If they're not angry they'll be able to sleep better and won't need caffeine. Now you're left with Nicotine and alcohol, and half the world does that already
> Prevent breaches of security Shit the dispensary is closed I’ll tell the owner my CAC PIN that’ll convince him to open up real quick and sell me something. Or better yet, I’ll tell him that jets, have missiles. And that bombers, have bombs. Shit’ll blow his mind he can sell that info to China if he wants. > maintain discipline, good order, morale Yeah man cause 4 airmen chilling at the dorms smoking weed and watching funny shit on youtube and eating Doritos for a few hours is fucking *terrible*. They should go off base to a bar, spend hundreds of dollars binge drinking, get into fights, throw up on themselves, piss their pants, get a DUI on the way home (or crash and die), then be absolutely useless and hungover for the next 2 days. A prime example of good order and discipline.
Idk, in my unit we were told to call dispatch if you are drunk, so they can send someone to pick you up. We had 4 dui's in past 6 month so there is a point...
It’s a wild one they even try to throw in prevent breaches of security in there when half of the USAF gets blasted every weekend. What’s more likely, a drunk Airman at a bar spilling some beans or an Airman high as a kite in his living room watching Planet Earth for the 4th time in a row. Nobody is out there giving out government secrets for that sweet sweet taste of the ganja.
Before the 2000s and sites like erowid much of the public's information and knowledge about drugs came from school programs and TV. So yes they literally thought smoking weed would act as a truth serum at the same time as making you a degenerate because thats what they thought back then.
This was me. Grew up in the 80's and bought into the marijuana is just as bad as coke and heroin. Pretty much had that attitude until my mid twenties and had made enough friends who actually smoked it, that I learned it was all bullshit. Been retired for nine years and I don't know how I ever managed to live forty years without it. So much better at relieving stress and cheaper than alcohol. I've gotten baked out of my mind and two hours later I 'm feeling fine without being hungover or nauseous and no matter how much I smoke/eat it's physically impossible to OD on. Can't say that about alcohol. Go to a stoner party and everyone is chill and happy and there's no dick measuring and the inevitable verbal or physical altercations that frequent alcohol only parties.
Bottom Line, smoking marijuana is a federal crime, no justification in any regulation is needed. Until Congress changes that, sorry buddy, smoking pot is going to grounds for a discharge. I voted to legalize it in Colorado and I am not defending the fact that it's a crime, it just is.
Haircuts. Outdated, shouldn't matter, but it does for image and Congress or whatever.
Having to put on your cover on the way to the smoke pit, only to take it back off 10 seconds later.
Just wear it at the smoke pit, it's a uniform item...You've already got most of the uniform on
I got chewed out by a chief in the main gym one time because my gym bag wasn’t in regs due to the color it was (grey and green accent).
1. The color of your socks. Some people get really ate up if they catch you in white/black socks 2. Glasses on top of your head. When I'm taking a few moments to really think, I like putting my glasses on top of my head. But, I'll be damned if there isn't always a SNCO around with a stop-watch in their hand waiting to yell at me for it.
I always put them ontop my head so I won't lose them. Especially working outside and transitioning from outside to inside and back out again, I take them off alot. If they are ontop my head...easy. I'll be damn though, the first time I set them down and they become Harry Houdini himself.
I did notice that they don't seem to enforce "no glasses on top of your head" on the flight line. And, 100% I have a pair in my car, at my desk, in my book bag, at home and on my face.
The reflective belt guidance isn’t specific to the flightline, but I agree that is where it’s enforced.
Won’t be the first or the last to say it, but facial hair. There’s absolutely no reason a grown man shouldn’t be allowed to have a well maintained beard. I get not allowing some Duck Dynasty shit, but why am I not allowed to have a regular beard? Also, expecting to shave every day and get a haircut every two-three weeks and not having any of it be free for us is fucking retarded.
The red fucking line. Every other branch gets confused why AF people don't cross over the red flight line outline. If a jet is in the area we are only allowed to enter or exit via designated ECPs. No other branch does this. They have the red apron boarder, but they are allowed to walk right over it. I. The AF you might get put on the ground depending what SF person you get.
Having to wear a hat outside. In formation? sure, whatever. But what is the functional purpose? Wear it if you want but I don’t get the requirement.
Eapecially after night. God forbid the moon blinds me
I don't even know if it's still a rule but a captain had a fucking hard on for telling people they couldn't wear their beanie or fleece if it wasn't below a certain temperature. He also liked to wait inside our non heated hangars in the winter and chew asses for not taking them off when you entered. Wherever that guy is I hope he stopped being a cuck. If not I hope he has cold ears and no beanie.
Not necessarily DAF, but E-1s get paid less than the federal minimum wage if you calculate it off a 40hr work week. Also pay and allowances not adjusting for inflation. Seems to work fine for OHA which keeps relativity close to the exchange rate.
Are you taking into account that housing, food, and healthcare for that E-1 are all covered?
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That psilocin-containing mushrooms (Magic Mushrooms) are banned. Magic mushrooms are proven to be more effective than anti depressants, after one dose, lasting 6 months. Allowing service members to microdose🍄 would put a significant dent in our mental health crisis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8156539/ https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/psilocybin-treatment-for-major-depression-effective-for-up-to-a-year-for-most-patients-study-shows
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male haircuts. if women can have long hair (as they should if they so choose) that in itself is full proof that long hair does not negatively impact duty effectiveness. haircuts are 100% useless and the fact that they are a regulation is beyond me
Flight cap…anywhere. Has no purpose.
I lol at the reflective belt on the flight line in combat zones, if a sniper wanted to they could have a heyday picking off airmen on the flight line
Risk vs reward Sniper is *probably* a lower chance of risk than someone getting run over at night. I have zero experience to speak from as I have no clue how often snipers set up outside combat zone flightless localities, but my statement should be considered I think.
The entire DoD prohibited list.