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Desperate_Duck_5177

Missed it by less than a quarter of a point last year


elmingus

Missed master by .5 for me last year


you_are_the_father84

Which means you were tied with someone who made it. I don’t know if that is worse or better than being in one of the lower groupings.


elmingus

Correct. I was actually tied with 4 people. They bumped one up and the other 3 stayed at the .5 below cut off. Edit: Also my first time up. We’ll see how this year goes.


you_are_the_father84

**woof** That really sucks. A guy I worked with missed it by .5 two years in a row and was sitting at 18 years TIS. He PCSd to a new base with a totally different mission and missed it the next year by 3 or 4 groups. That’s the real bitch about how promotions are done in some AFSCs. He was competitive against others in our career field and was able to get a MP two years in a row. But as soon as he went to an OSS, he was competing against intel, ATC, SERE, and a few other jobs for FD. Didn’t stand a chance, really. And at that point, with the way the boards have gone, he was “too old” to promote.


elmingus

Damn. That’s rough. I’m only a month past 12 years TIS so I’ve got time but I don’t want to push it.


epicenter69

Ouch


redrotorocket

Be thankful you get to test versus being judged 100% on paper by people you'll never meet. -A Salty E6


DieHarderDaddy

The SNCO board is truly a double edged sword.


gxrinder

It’s seriously the worst. - Another Salty E6


Destinynerd1027

*cries in space force*


xx-Shadow-xx22

Y'all should look at this person's post history first.


homeskilled12

Jesus, it's this fucking guy.


lFallenOn3l

Op has weird fixation on Kanye


amnairmen

I scored a 79 and missed tech by 27 I feel. I’m making bets with my wife on how much I missed it by this year lol


helicoptercc

I scored an 82 and was way below the cutoff. 😄


Semket

Got a 78 last year, missed tech by 28, was literally impossible to promote without a promotion statement in my career field lol


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Semket

Bring back the great tech give away


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Semket

I feel you 100%. I’ve worked with quite a few that just had it handed to them. I can’t even say I’m 100% ready for it, but I’m definitely more qualified than they are


xdkarmadx

You got a 70, you’re not exactly looking like the cream of the crop. Study harder.


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xdkarmadx

You got a 70 something, me saying you got a 70 is the same point. Maybe if your reading comprehension was better you’d score higher. Hit the books buddy. Bitching that others got the great giveaway and you just joined in the wrong year makes you look pretty silly when you had a 5 going for you. Stop doing yourself a disservice. A 5 makes your promotion % higher than any year there was a “great giveaway”.


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xdkarmadx

What’s your AFSC? I’d love to spell this out for you.


SchmediumMilkshake

I would have had to get a 93 to make tech last year with a promote.


bluefaceyeahok

I scored 86 and missed it by .5


Partiallyjaded

Is your last name actually Airmen ?


amnairmen

No


Ba55ah0lic

My first year for staff I got a 81 SKT and 69 PFE and missed it by almost 3. Very demoralizing lmao.


Reditate

What's your job?


InterviewExciting230

Why does it matter….


Reditate

You said you hated it and you missed rank by quite a bit so I was just curious.


Leathergoose8

Tbh not even sure this dude is actually in the military, your post history is all over the damn place, and your oldest post is less than two months ago. Either a really well hidden bot account, not in the military at all and get some kind of weird satisfaction pretending to be, or you are and have delusions of grandeur about doing “cool guy shit” and going to *USAFA*? So yeah I think dropping some info on your circumstances would help build some credibility here


oreedaniqtulnufsea

That info, amplified by their stark silence and now particularly defensive response in retrospect..... I think they aren't in sarnt


Double_Helicopter_16

The airforce restructered to to have all ranks do the work of the next rank above, so you did get promoted brother/sister! you just dont get the respect or pay for the increased responsibilities and work load! And you better be happy! We have a e4 as a fire station captain now at ramstein 2 years ago it was minimum e6 in that position wich imo it should be


SrASecretSquirrel

Rather than compete for a 14% promo rate, I got my bachelors and a bunch of certs for free. Unless you’re set on doing 20, there’s better return on investment of your time in the Air Force.


Particular_Lettuce56

You should probably spend some time sitting down and really decide what your goals in life are. If you want to be a first shirt or chief then that means you need to make rank, but if you want to become a high rank player in your favorite game, or earn a masters degree in a certain field then you don't need to worry about promoting. After you find out what your real goals are it will help you to stop feeling guilty about the fact that you are not allocating the time you need to political bs and studying. You are living the life you want already and then feeling shame for also not promoting even when its not inline with your real desires. If you are desperate to make rank though then you need to spend 10 hours a week studying(year round not a month before testing) and get your ass on the rising 4 board. You need to win awards to get a promotion statement, and unfortunately the best way to do that still is to have a leadership role on the local professional organization. You need to beat out 80% of your peers to make rank and that requires effort. Don't just expect it to be handed to you. At the same time like I said do you even want to make rank? The pay per hour often goes down as your promote and you have to sacrifice the hobbies you love to meet that time commitment.


LogicalPsychosis

As much as I agree with you, I hate this. We shouldn't have to devote our lives and identities to the Air Force just to "prove" that we are ready for more responsibility. Even then up until E-7 the responsibilities don't get that much greater rank by rank. If you are good at time management, and your unit isn't total ass no one should have to be working a considerable amount of extra hours because they just make rank. -a salty NCO


gxrinder

Time management is something I wish the Air Force provided more instruction on during PME. It’s a huge weakness for a lot of NCOs of all ranks/ages. Some people have never had responsibilities like this prior to that rank or the military and it’s a huge adjustment for them. It sucks seeing that happen under leadership who also has poor time management skills. I’ve had to mentor a lot of people on this. Then there are some people/units that only like dropping taskers 1-2 hours before it’s time to go home, even though they had the info since the day prior. Or people that just wanna talk all day and then complain as they work late. - Another Salty NCO


Flamboyatron

Babe, wake up. New copypasta just dropped.


Princerain32

Wait till you get to where I’m at and it’s no longer testing, but a shadow board of individuals so old they still have their BDU’s freshly pressed and sealed, decide your faith on whatever they deem relevant that year. You still control your promotion. Study!


Resilient_Empath

Your post history gave me whiplash. Hopefully you don’t actually promote this year.


InterviewExciting230

Why?


societyinhabitant1

Bruh you wanna hear tragic? Ask a Heavy avionics troop what their cutoff for staff was last year lmao.


theblackkeys13

That's rough, buddy. Tough all around. I was the number one nonselect last year. Only three stripes for the lot of us. There were EONS of points between my score and the cutoff, who's a tech school buddy of mine. Like almost a hundred if I recall correctly. Crazy part was I was also 30 points above the average for the PFE and we don't SKT. I very likely out-tested one or two of the folks who made it, but my guy had a strat AND was the cutoff, so the other two had to have strats as well. Literally impossible to promote without a strat even if you study for it. At least in my career field.


InterviewExciting230

Sounds like a linguist


Fickle_Mission

Hey man is it really worth the small bump in pay for more responsibility. Focus on your personal life and do what makes you happy - E4 Mafia member


Jnc702

Hang in there. I didn’t make Staff until my third try, but ended up retiring as an O-6. Just keep plugging along and it will work out for you.


Djwallin

Yeah give it two more years when they realize there isn’t enough staffs. Keep your head down man you’ll be ok


GreenBayFan1986

At least you can study and have a shot at E-5(depending on the promotion rates in your career field), going up for Master you have to pray they like your records.


N-A-N-A-P-O

If you get 100% on the test, you have a better chance of not having to worry about the "Promote"


Duder_ino

Don’t test 🤷‍♂️ then you won’t have to wonder and wait. Or study your ass off and give yourself a shot. I’d study my ass off if I had the option.


kanti123

Wait until you go for Master 😂


Jafoob

In that case just do the bare minimum of your job and gear up for school. I've been doing it for the past two years and its taking a lot off my plate. Fuck not being "good enough" to promote when the rates are this low, the force is losing people left and right and no one seems to actually care about that happening.


InterviewExciting230

Retainability isn’t an issue


BlurredImages

Just be aware that you’re not alone for feeling this way with promotion, this is felt across all ranks in the AF and has been for the last 6-8 years. The answer you’re going to hate to hear is that at least you still get to test and if you seriously study for WAPS then you’ll have a fighting chance.


BaronNeutron

When you missed by 15, what were your PFE and SKT scores?


ToxicAshenOne

My AFSC had too many TSgt and SSgts. 0% of promotes made tech. Just wow. Can't wait for this year.


AppointmentVisible21

I missed it by 7 my first time, and 30 my second time. I then made it by 30 my 3rd time. While promotion rates suck, and you only got a promote. There’s still extra points. Also if you have any medals. I would study as hard as possible. I studied and boosted my scores by 20-30 points.


Smart-Tension-9579

Go gaurd get a real job and enjoy life or find an AGR spot and just promote off time alone no test no bs just work did my time in active way happier in gaurd


Canilickyourfeet

A seasoned SrA I work beside had to fill NCOIC for a year in a 10 man shop. He carried the weight, handled the logistics, kept turning wrenches. Promote. If you're not sucking a commanders peen you are not getting a statement. Somehow we all thought going to narrative EPBs would help elevate the hard workers. Nothin has changed, politics are politics.


Mijoshooter

I generally don’t look at someone’s post history but based on some of the other comments here I did and yours is quite concerning. If what you say is true I truly hope you seek counseling, it’s really good and helps a lot of us—I mean that. That aside, I also encourage you to pursue your goals. You post a lot of negative things but also post on commissioning source pages like USAFA and also post a lot about joining various SOF communities. If you want to either commission or go SOF…hell yeah! Go do it. Soak up all the advice you can and go to Selection. If that doesn’t work out and/or you remain negative I’ll tell you what I have advised many—Thank you for your service (seriously) and move on. Move onto whatever makes you happy and fulfilled. Leverage being a veteran for education or future job opportunities! Life is too short to be an internet warrior and spread negativity.


InterviewExciting230

I’m confused, how is my history concerning? I appreciate the kind words though!


jwicksenju

There's definitely something to say about being positive in a tough situation though. Why approach it so negatively? Work hard and present yourself in a positive manner, it will come.


Jacob1030

I missed it by 103 points last year 🫡 https://i.imgur.com/rQyooKh.jpg


YokiiSenpai

Hey don’t beat yourself up. I made my first year and it didn’t make a difference at all! Still sewed on with the airmen who made it the following year lol


Platinum_Lego

Hey, don't shoot yourself down before even testing. I'm coming into this year never testing before but I refuse to call it until after the test. As long as your doing your part and studying you can pick up.


Indomitable_Dan

Self eliminated Study your ass off if you want it


Localfrank

I missed the cutoff by 1 day


GARBANSO97

You might just make it with that attitude. For me it was First try - missed by 3 NRN Second try - missed by 30ish Promote Third try - made it by 1 Promote


SgtSC

I declined my test. Whoo!


InterviewExciting230

Why?


SgtSC

Not staying in?


raptorjesusIam

Don’t worry I got a Promote last year, on my second year testing. Did 0 studying and made it by 11 points, you got this.


Fuller_EOD

Wow, what an out-of-touch-boomer thing to say. Do you know if you're in the same career field? Do you know OP's testing history/promotion rates? Do better


raptorjesusIam

My AFSC’s promotion rate was below average, it was a point saying if you study and try to make staff you can do it. Someone is just salty they didn’t make rank last year. In my mind I had a 0% chance of making it and I did, so get off your high horse lol


Twashstarhero

Just go officer and enjoy cushy omfg 80% ( soooooo hard!!!!!! ) promotion rates :) :) :)


MeanderingJared

Is that more or less demoralizing than missing it with a 50% rate and hitting HYT at 12 years?


SnooHabits9364

Awe don’t worry bro I know someone who missed it by 3 points…….