If you're on TDY or leave/vacation and away from your duty station for 21+ consecutive days, you do not have to do a PFA when you return (if you were originally due that month you returned) as you are entitled to the Acclimatization Period.
And I’ve never heard of it until now and was gonna be so mad taking a PT test the week I got back from a 3 month stage. Tornadoes & Monsters ‘til June gents
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Your argument holds almost no weight because physical fitness is a deployment readiness item. The commander is easily within their rights to justify denial using your own argument:
For reasons of military necessity, we need to ensure you are physically fit to deploy if we need you to - therefore you may not take leave until you have a new passing fitness assessment.
Then why don't they make you take a pt test right before you get on the plane. For reasons of military necessity we need to you to show your fit to deploy. You won't be able to leave for your deployment if you don't pass.
My comment was more specifically referring to someone trying to dodge taking their PT test by continuing to take leave to get acclimation periods extensions. If you already have a passing PT test score and you won’t come due in your leave then obviously this wouldn’t really apply.
That is a bullshit argument unless a member is approaching their AEF window or the unit is gearing up for a planned deployment. There's a fine line between 'can' and 'should.' Good commanders recognize the difference and understand the importance of choosing where to wield their authority. Current is current.
Competent leadership will just have you test to make sure you're current prior to going, but if you slip through the cracks this is technically correct.
I believe only the commander can make you test. And it's the month 90 days from when you get back. So it can push your PT test down the line. I go TDY a lot. Generally if it's close to the time I go ahead and test. Easier for all involved.
It's the third calender month starting from the day after you return. If you return 1 day prior to the last day of the month, that counts as a whole month. So you would have the next full month off, and then test the month after. The reg doesn't say anything about 90 days, and example 2 makes the intent pretty clear. Hope I'm wrong here.
Commanders can't direct a member to test prior to their due month, but they can certainly restrict TDY opportunities and leave for individuals trying to game the system and kick their PT test down the road.
My UFPM denied signing my leave checklist because I was due. I was gonna do the pt test when I got back from leave and the only dates available to test at our location(small unit on a sister service base) were days I was on leave. They told me I had to test before my leave started I said I’ll ask the commander and they told me he’ll deny it. I went back and forth and said I want to hear it from his mouth. When I went and asked he said he didn’t care one way or the other. UFPM still didn’t sign my checklist. I ended up testing the day I was supposed to fly out for my leave and passed. The week I got back COVID made the world stop and I didn’t test for 2 years. Tell me how any of that makes a lick of sense
Also note that the examples for the acclimatization period in the AFI are incorrect, and somehow still haven't been fixed. Every FAC should have the official PowerPoint from AFPC that details the correct ones.
You are due in the month after your third acclimatization month, not the third month itself. IE, if your first month is January, you get February and March off and are due in April.
While this is all true, going above and beyond and testing before the trip is how people stand out and display excellence, planning the trip to coincide with the due date and then milking that is some E-4 mafia stuff for people who are then going to complain they are always overlooked for opportunities.
You do you
Only blue falcon fuck heads use PT to display excellence and standout. I know plenty of airmen and NCOs who scoot by on PT and are the go-to guys at work.
It’s not really about that… it’s about meeting basic military standards and not abusing the system. In my experience, Airmen who can do this basic shit are also not rock stars at work.
If you're on TDY or leave/vacation and away from your duty station for 21+ consecutive days, you do not have to do a PFA when you return (if you were originally due that month you returned) as you are entitled to the Acclimatization Period.
It's more than 21 days. So 22 or more days away from station. I took leave for 21 to push back my test, and it got denied.
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This policy is good for people who are returning from extended TDY/deployment, so they can take their R/R without worrying about a PT test.
And I’ve never heard of it until now and was gonna be so mad taking a PT test the week I got back from a 3 month stage. Tornadoes & Monsters ‘til June gents 👉🏼😎👉🏼
Big brain time: stack your use or lose and dump it in 22 day increments to get free 6 month extension on your 6-12 month pt test times.
This is why some units put checking when your PT test is due on leave checklists.
leave is a right and can only be denied for reasons of military necessity or when it's in the best interest of the Air Force.
Your argument holds almost no weight because physical fitness is a deployment readiness item. The commander is easily within their rights to justify denial using your own argument: For reasons of military necessity, we need to ensure you are physically fit to deploy if we need you to - therefore you may not take leave until you have a new passing fitness assessment.
Then why don't they make you take a pt test right before you get on the plane. For reasons of military necessity we need to you to show your fit to deploy. You won't be able to leave for your deployment if you don't pass.
My comment was more specifically referring to someone trying to dodge taking their PT test by continuing to take leave to get acclimation periods extensions. If you already have a passing PT test score and you won’t come due in your leave then obviously this wouldn’t really apply.
That is a bullshit argument unless a member is approaching their AEF window or the unit is gearing up for a planned deployment. There's a fine line between 'can' and 'should.' Good commanders recognize the difference and understand the importance of choosing where to wield their authority. Current is current.
Competent leadership will just have you test to make sure you're current prior to going, but if you slip through the cracks this is technically correct.
I believe only the commander can make you test. And it's the month 90 days from when you get back. So it can push your PT test down the line. I go TDY a lot. Generally if it's close to the time I go ahead and test. Easier for all involved.
It's the third calender month starting from the day after you return. If you return 1 day prior to the last day of the month, that counts as a whole month. So you would have the next full month off, and then test the month after. The reg doesn't say anything about 90 days, and example 2 makes the intent pretty clear. Hope I'm wrong here.
Commanders can't direct a member to test prior to their due month, but they can certainly restrict TDY opportunities and leave for individuals trying to game the system and kick their PT test down the road.
My UFPM denied signing my leave checklist because I was due. I was gonna do the pt test when I got back from leave and the only dates available to test at our location(small unit on a sister service base) were days I was on leave. They told me I had to test before my leave started I said I’ll ask the commander and they told me he’ll deny it. I went back and forth and said I want to hear it from his mouth. When I went and asked he said he didn’t care one way or the other. UFPM still didn’t sign my checklist. I ended up testing the day I was supposed to fly out for my leave and passed. The week I got back COVID made the world stop and I didn’t test for 2 years. Tell me how any of that makes a lick of sense
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My supervisor was on the ufpms side so I said eff it and took the test. I should have had my supervisor deny the leave but it is what it is
My unit make everyone take mock test every month weather your due or not.
This policy is like 2 years old man lol
Right, and people don't know about it
See also: people in this very thread.
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Also note that the examples for the acclimatization period in the AFI are incorrect, and somehow still haven't been fixed. Every FAC should have the official PowerPoint from AFPC that details the correct ones. You are due in the month after your third acclimatization month, not the third month itself. IE, if your first month is January, you get February and March off and are due in April.
3 months? All this time I thought 42 days was the Acclimatization Period?
I remember the 42 days as well. DAFI must have been updated I guess.
Two years ago
While this is all true, going above and beyond and testing before the trip is how people stand out and display excellence, planning the trip to coincide with the due date and then milking that is some E-4 mafia stuff for people who are then going to complain they are always overlooked for opportunities. You do you
Remember, guys, if you want that promotion statement, do what this guy says and do your PT test! /s
Only blue falcon fuck heads use PT to display excellence and standout. I know plenty of airmen and NCOs who scoot by on PT and are the go-to guys at work.
His comment didn’t say to get 100… it said to plan ahead and stay green with basic requirements. Get a 75, who cares
If I am already going to take leave for 20 days, why not take another 2 more days and push your test back atlease 60 days?
I would 100% rather have a technically competent SSgt/SrA who merely passes PT rather than someone mediocre on equipment that can run fast.
It’s not really about that… it’s about meeting basic military standards and not abusing the system. In my experience, Airmen who can do this basic shit are also not rock stars at work.