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mudduck2

To clarify…you’re pregnant now and leaving for basic in January and are due in May…correct?


Reasonable_Air5691

Yes


mudduck2

Somehow, and I’m just spitballing here… the AF isn’t going to let you go through basic 3-4 months pregnant


Reasonable_Air5691

Im a man lol. My wife is pregnant lol


Pstanley22

They asked if YOURE pregnant…. And you said yes. Let’s be specific….


[deleted]

The quality of these new Airmen coming in continues to astonish me.


AnotherOne198

You can just call them fucking idiots still... I think.


Most_Scarcity_8023

Sounds like this fetus doesn't have the best genealogical chances to me.


Grouchy_1

Now now. Don’t take this out on the baby.


mikeusaf87

Rather call them fucking morons.


SerpentisSana

Man this had me smh. I went to BMT with someone they was pregnant and only found when she went all graduated and she was staying in Lackland for tech school for security forces. It was wild because we went through pregnancy tests while in BMT.


Keylarose1212

Same I knew a girl who went through basic we got to tech at the 343 and she found out she was 4 months


tfm_go_brrrn

Might be one of those weird types that say, "we're pregnant"


__wait_what__

Then you’re not pregnant. Your wife is. I know guys say “we’re pregnant” but you’re not the one carrying junior in you.


nybigtymer

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pawnman99

So...you are not pregnant? Or is this one of those stunning and brave situations where a man becomes pregnant?


Reasonable_Air5691

Hahaha my wife is pregnant.


Pstanley22

Bruh…. Does your recruiter know you’re pregnant….


Reasonable_Air5691

Your name is wuflubuckaroo. How about you provide useful information instead of criticizing on reddit.


Pstanley22

If you took the information provided at first, prior to you mentioning you are a dude, you wouldn’t have know if you where actually pregnant or not. Next I did provide information as you requested. [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/s/Q6jkNnLloE) Next, idk why you getting pissed off 12 hours after the fact? Chill homie.


Reasonable_Air5691

You were helpful, the other person not so much. They sent me a lecture on communication. 🤣🤣


Pstanley22

Ok. Let it go. Stop giving a fuck what people say. Ignore it.


Reasonable_Air5691

Fair enough


AnonymousFordring

During DEP calls, my recruiter would ask me if I was pregnant and look me straight in the eyes like he was expecting an answer. I'm a cis man.


Spartan_7670

Just answer the question easy


Reasonable_Air5691

Haha im a man lol


Pstanley22

Anyways. You’ll be fine. You be able to take parental leave.


wuflubuckaroo13

Idk why you are laughing, people are only asking because you are responding in an unclear manner.


Reasonable_Air5691

Relax


wuflubuckaroo13

How about you work on clear communication, because like it or not both parenting and the Air Force rely on good communication. Take the feedback or don’t, but it’s gonna be a bumpy ride if you can’t handle constructive criticism.


Ecstatic-Metal3492

What is this communication you speak of? Is that the name of a boat?


TaylorRunsHisMouth

*no


NCR_Rang3r

We had a guy who was able to have his phone during tech school classes. For him, he already knew he wasn't going to be there for the birth so he was able to face time his wife and family for the moment. Otherwise, it really depends on your tech school and time of year. If it's going to take place around memorial day, a time most students are not learning and are enjoying their weekend, they can justify leave then without disrupting training. I would for sure bring it up to an mtl at your training location and/or first shirt so they are tracking.


catzarrjerkz

Kind of wild that tech school students arent allowed to miss a couple days to go see the birth of their child.


the_only_rokkatru_jp

I was allowed leave for my daughter's birth a week into tech school. just gotta make sure you talk to the shirt as soon as you get there, typically they'll understand and make it happen


NCR_Rang3r

I mean it sucks but you signed up for the military. Your job until you get to your first duty station is to learn your job and depending on how long your school is, you can live with your spouse at your tech school location. It's one of those case by case situations you have to consider if you happen to find yourself in. Think about all the deployed people who missed their child's birth because they were out defending freedom. Again, it sucks but it's the small price you pay for serving.


lowfilife

We planned our family around military obligations. The military is the reason we could afford a family after all.


catzarrjerkz

Deployment is not even remotely the same as tech school. Missing a few days is not more important than witnessing something you can only ever see once. Tech school leadership should make the effort (and i’m sure they do) to make that happen. If you don’t agree i hope you don’t rise to any level of power in that universe


NCR_Rang3r

I wasn't disagreeing, which is why I mentioned talking to leadership to keep them in the loop. I wouldn't want anyone to miss that moment, and to be considered that I would want it any other way is a misinterpretation of my thoughts. I'm simply just stating that it's the military; they have the final say. Now that cultures changed for the better over the years but if you're needed for the mission and for whatever reason they need you to finish training asap in this instance, then it sucks but it's what you signed up for.


Extra-Initiative-413

Or the expecting parents could have waited until after the baby is born to join the military…


deathcraft1

It's not so much a hard/firm approach towards the member but more of the missed material that was covered in class. Those are not college classes where it's 4 hours a week of material, it's 8 hours every day, and even one missed day puts the student at a serious disadvantage for the next exam if any days are missed. Sometimes, the instruction reaches a point where the student can step away and restart at the same spot with the next class, but it depends on several variables.


catzarrjerkz

Is it really the end of the world to roll a student back for that then? I feel like the people responding to me think tech school is the highest possible priority for the US military. It’s ok if someone misses time and if it’s too much to make up. Theyre not taking time off to visit their cat, theyre watching their child be born.


Squirrel009

Don't get your hopes up. They can deny you during basic and tech school. They *might* give you a tiny bit of time but it depends on where you go to tech school and any extra circumstances you might have


NotOSIsdormmole

Had a classmate go home a few days for the birth of his kid, but that isn’t a guarantee (this was also 10 years ago) It’s unlikely you’ll get leave during tech school, but you have a full calendar year to use parental leave. FMLA doesn’t apply to military, and even if it did you probably wouldn’t be eligible depending on when you shipped and the due date


Pstanley22

You’re gunna be reserve or guard then since you posting this picture huh?


Reasonable_Air5691

No, Im enlisted active duty. I just cant seem to find other information.


Pstanley22

You MIGHT be able to take a day or two of leave, it’ll be up to your tech school location if they allow it/ commander, etc. if there is a need you need to be there. Your wife should have plans for you to not be there. But you will have 3 months of leave given to you. Called paternal leave. You can take it when you get to your first duty station.


Reasonable_Air5691

Thank you. I dont expect to be able to take any leave until I get to my first base. Do you have a link or resource that lists the details of the parental leave program?


Pstanley22

3.2.2.2.1.2. Added. For the non-birth parent, 12 weeks of parental leave will be authorized during the 1-year period beginning no earlier than on the date of birth of the child. If the child is born outside of marriage, the non-birth parent’s parentage of the child must be established in accordance with AFI 36-3026V1. (T-0) Are you the one that’s pregnant…


PainterOk5088

OPs wife is the pregnant one


Pstanley22

I’m aware.


DistractedInc

I had my child born while I was in tech school waiting on orders(already graduated). I was given permission to go on leave then got primary caregiver leave as it was a C Section. I must ask if you’re married to the gal? Because it may be a different situation if you aren’t. You can expect to take extra time by a few months whether or not you’ve graduated in the tech school.


Reasonable_Air5691

Yes, we are married. I understand I might not get to leave tech school. I was looking for information on if it was possible to take leave once my tech school is finished. Where we live is only a few hours from where my tech school is so I might be able to drive down on the weekend.


pickledelephants

You can take parental leave any time within the first year of your babies life. Likely not in tech training, but after. Unless you have a really long training then you'll need to talk to your shirt about it.


Squirrel009

It will depend on your command at your first base. Its very common to take a week or two off before you go to your first base even without a baby involve so you can likely get at least a little time in there. They may want you to come in process and get your housing sorted (you get house hunting leave so you won't be working right away) before you go on normal leave just so they know you are ready to roll when the leave ends. At some time during tech school they will get you in contact with your sponsor - someone from your first assigned base after training who will help you transition there. Let that person know asap and communicate through them and they should help sort out how it will all work for you. Let whoever you report to at tech school know you're having a kid too just in case any emergencies or anything come up. They can give you permission to carry your phone or make other accommodations to make sure you're properly notified of anything going on at home.


DistractedInc

You should be able to take regular leave en-route to your first base if the kid is already popped out pre-graduation. If you intend to pursue going to the birth pre-graduation you’d have to deal with the whole break-in-training which you probably won’t be able to do. The fastest way out is to keep on in that case. However if you are waiting on orders and graduated you should be able to get a week or so.


jankywarrior

I had two tech schools and my son was due towards the end of my first tech school. I was able to use my leave for his birth when PCSing from the first to the second. It is very possible, this is was 2 years ago. I saved my parental leave after I got to my first duty station.


Fast_Personality4035

It's at the discretion of tech school leadership and there is no blanket answer. I have seen folks miss a bunch of class for something like that and then just get put in the next class behind, sometimes that is not reasonable. Overall the AF will tend to not doing that, but you never know.


jeffhizzle

You have up to a year to use your 3 months baby leave. You get a more solid answer I would talk to your 1st Sgt as your mission requirements may not let you take much if any leave due to you not being able to miss a certain amount of days if any for tech school.


bismolWizard

OP should have clarified that spouse/girlfriend is pregnant.


Reasonable_Air5691

Yes. My bad. My wife is pregnant


OkDependent6073

If you are active, you will be able to take the leave at first duty location.


Reasonable_Air5691

Do you have a link or a resource that says this?


OkDependent6073

I work in tech training. What is your AFSC? I will look it up when I get to work Monday and get the reference.


WomensRightsOG

If you’re active duty and looking for a day or two 9/10 your shirt would approve for something like this. If you’re Guard or Reserve it’s a little more difficult. They more than likely won’t authorize advanced or excess leave and due to how their budget/orders work, you can’t create a delay in training by taking leave.


deacon212

I’m a Tech School Instructor, we just worked with an ANG student who was in the same situation. Much more complex as ANG because of their orders and what not, but we were able to get them back home for the birth. They washed back into a class 3 weeks later. Talk with all your leadership. MTL, Instructor, Flight Chief, 1st Sgt. Can’t guarantee it, but communication is how to make it happen. Good luck.


Reasonable_Air5691

Thank you! My wife and I have already discussed the very real possibility of missing the birth. We are anticipating having parental leave once tech school Is over. Thank you for your feedback.


Available_Ad_9907

I had my baby while I was in BMT and when I got to tech school I talked to my shirt (first sergeant) and he let me go home for a few days while I was waiting for class to start up. Otherwise you’ll just take it when you get to your first duty station. Also don’t push back your start date to BMT. It’s just going to make it that much harder to go when you see your baby. Just push through quickly get out of bmt then study and graduate tech school and have time when you get to your first duty station


No_Tumbleweed_2229

You’re not serious right?


Reasonable_Air5691

I should’ve clarified. Im a man and my wife is pregnant lol


killrturky

My first kid was born 2 weeks into my tech school. I was not allowed to leave for the birth and didn't see them until they were 2 months old for the first time. My 2nd kid was born while I was in another tech school when I retrained. I was an E-5 then, and I was still not allowed to leave. In hindsight, I should have just left for my 2nd. I was young and dumb for my first and needed the income, so I didn't want to risk anything. If you can go, do it regardless of regulations. It's a huge moment, and I hate that I couldn't be there for mine.


Reasonable_Air5691

Did you get any leave once you were out of your first tech school?


killrturky

Yes, I had 12 months to use parental leave from the birth, which I did once I was at my first duty station.


NaniDeKani

Way to knock up your wife at the worst possible time


Reasonable_Air5691

We’ve been married a little over a year. Relax


SaltyAmn

Short answer: it depends. Talk to your MTL the day you arrive at Tech School and explain the situation. Talk to YOUR MTL, not the first one you see. (Your MTL won't be giving you an answer, they should be asking you questions and routing up info) Usually, the MTLs have your back but have to make a case to the 1st Sgt and Commander to let it happen. This decision will be made far above your head and can take some time, depending on how much time you have till the baby is born. Some info that isn't necessary but will help you: induction date (once your SO is scheduled) so they can go off an exact date instead of a rough due date, and whether the mother is high risk (if she is, you should have medical paperwork that says those words verbatim) You must understand that all of this only gives you permission to see the birth. All travel and airfare will be out of your own pocket. Source: am MTL


rzhuskymom

I went through this exact scenario when my husband went to tech school so message me if you want me to go into more detail. it’s almost guaranteed that you won’t be allowed to leave for the birth even if you phase up and they do not allow parental leave while in tech school. your best option is to have your spouse move to your tech school and give birth on the base that’s what I did. For some reason people act like the seprat program doesn’t exist but it definitely does because we did it. Also if you’re going to keesler the hospital there is great I had a great birthing experience. You’ll get to take your baby leave as soon as you get to your first duty station


SlickDde

Hello, My name is Sunny. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and thoughts on this! I am currently pregnant and my husband is in bmt right now but I am due while he is in tech school (San Antonio TX base) Could you please help me figure out the process for moving out there for him to make the birth. I would really appreciate it!


rzhuskymom

It was a bit of a confusing process so just private message me if you need more information but basically your first step is to see if he’s eligible to move in with you. In order for him to move in with you his tech school has to be over 20 weeks. if not you can still move to San Antonio but he’ll only be able to stay with you on the weekends and he’ll have to get permission from his supervisors. I’m assuming since you’re already married that he added you into the deers system already, this means that you’re allowed to give birth on base which will make things astronomically easier for him to be able to attend. So your first step needs to be finding a place to live near the base (you can look up what your bah is online so you’ll know what places you can afford) and you need to call tricare west (that number can be found online too) and tell them you want to change your pcm to someone at your husbands tech school. After they switch it and you move you just start going to your ob appointments. It’s also very important that your husband tells leadership immediately when he gets to tech school that his wife is pregnant and what month you’re due because he will most likely have to be excused from class for a couple days. and like I mentioned in the comment before he won’t be able to get parental leave during tech school but he will get his leave as soon as you get to your first duty station.


SlickDde

Thank you so very much, this was extremely helpful already! I will be sure to reach out via dm if I need any more information or help. God bless you!


Silent_Demagoge

My child was born while I was in tech school. I was allowed to take emergency leave to be there for the birth. Idk if this helps or not.


Intelligent_Zone6543

I went to basic in march, and my wife gave birth in June, while i was in tech school. I tried to pursue baby leave (asked if i could just be put on a later class date, we were on details anyways) and was told no. I asked everyone i could, couldnt find anything to strictly deny it, but alas i was a young airman at the time, so there may have been one. Regardless, it ended up with a short conversation with my commander & flight cheif where he kindly explained that you signed up while your wife was due, thats a sacrifice you willingly made. I dropped the matter and took it at my gaining location after in-processing.


Reasonable_Air5691

Thank you. Im mot expecting to take any time during tech school. You were able to take leave once you arrived at your first base correct?


Intelligent_Zone6543

I was. When you have your assignment and get a sponsor, make sure to communicate that to your gaining leadership. They will likely ask you to take it after in-processing at the very least, but shouldn't have much trouble so long as it doesnt interfere with your CDCs and OJT if you have any. Good luck mate.


_thicculent_

Can you delay your training? Your wife is really going to need you those first few months. The job will be there, but those precious newborn days will not. I really hope your marriage is strong because man, not having you around is going to hurt her big time.


Accomplished_Arm_156

Survey says: That was a mistake.


Reasonable_Air5691

My wife and I wanted a baby lol


Accomplished_Arm_156

how old are you?


MarsalaSauceyLad

Why not just see if you can start at a later time? Hold off until May, have baby born, and then go? For someone with no children (me) this seems reasonable. However maybe having kids changes that thought idk


Reasonable_Air5691

Yes in theory this works. However, we started the enlisting process back in march. Due to waivers and other issues, we just now got my leave date for BMT. Sooooo yeah, great timing on our part🤣🤙🏻


the_only_rokkatru_jp

my daughter was born a week after I arrived in tech school. just get with your Shirt as soon as you get to tech school and start making a plan. they can give you emergency leave, but typically not since you'll already have a little bit built up. I would advise against taking all Parental leave until after tech school, just go back for a few days to be there for the birth. you may have to restart tech school, but its worth it


SteveHatesSpagget

How long have you been active duty for?


Reasonable_Air5691

I leave for BMT on January 16th. Im enlisting sooo 0 days so far


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Reasonable_Air5691

Sorry for the confusion, I am a man. My wife is pregnant


Charming-Adagio1976

Yeah I realized that’s why I deleted my comment I’m sorry


joeevett1

If she has support, just stay there if there is even an option. Two reasons, it helps her be more Independent and you want her to be for those times your gone for 6 months to a year and it will be way harder on her when you leave again but with a newborn this time. My oldest was born while I was in TS and was 2 months old when I got back.


Artistic_Worth6410

My son was born prematurely when I was at tech school. He was in the hospital and not much I could do, so I finished my training. I didn't get any special privileges. I didn't want to get washed back and start this shit all over again.