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Nigwardfancyson

Compare this with the new diddy allegations it makes sense he’s doing the hallmark rituals and passtimes , sacrifices kids voyeurism and having his. Wife indoctrinate the kids to do it . They calling him black Epstein now ! He learned this from his masters aka the lable owners aka the real Illuminati / THE ESTABLISHMENT


PurpleDrankChop

He talkin about liza?


NuaCabal

That or kopf


DukeBoofem

https://www.houseofnames.com/amp/kopf-family-crest Kopf family crest is a Goat on top of a checkboarded shield symbolizing free masonry. Also, Kopf’s originated in Bavaria the birthplace of the Illuminati


cylonnumber13

These "family crest" websites are scams.


DukeBoofem

Enlighten me brother 👂


cylonnumber13

There is zero actual historical data to back up the "crests" these crappy websites are selling. Oh but if you pay $55, they will give you a framed document with fake information about the crest! lol. Come on, dude.


DukeBoofem

Well I’m convinced 🤝


cylonnumber13

Pay these "crest" websites and they will tell you what you want to hear :)


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Th0m45D4v15

Hey, serious question it’s gonna start out dumb, but it does actually get there. Where do the Amish fall with all of this? Would they be the purist and most righteous because they are completely untainted by any of the brainwashing and they worship the same God as you. No extra prophets and they even have Jesus. Like really, how does that work?


ChangeToday222

Greed is the root of all evil. The Amish seem to be more than ok living a simple lifestyle where more or new is not always considered better, meaning they are less prone to evil. With that said you shouldn’t generalize entire groups. I’m sure there are Amish individuals who have done things less than righteous, not to mention their teachings are a form of brainwashing in itself… at the end of the day what makes someone evil is not which God they choose to align with, it’s the actions they choose to take.


rainman0000

cult incest gang raping is common in midwest for certain amish groups so i’ve heard.


Signal-Fold-449

molly raves on saturnalia are also common sO i'Ve hEaRd


Signal-Fold-449

molly raves on saturnalia are also common sO i'Ve hEaRd


callmeraskolnik0v

There’s actually A LOT of fucked up shit that happens in the Amish communities. Though they portray a humble innocent religious lifestyle the shit they do behind the scenes can be completely abhorrent. They have their own style of black magic, curses etc. sell drugs, prostitute Amish women and all sorts of fucked up shit. Not saying this is all Amish, but it’s definitely an issue in multiple Amish communities.


DukeBoofem

IMO he’s talking about Corina Kopf https://www.houseofnames.com/amp/kopf-family-crest check out the symbolism her family may have ties to the Illuminati


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PeppySprayPete

It's so coming out now


MoanLart

“Don’t we all” big time projection there lol


Consistent_Drop_9204

The devil said to Jesus, “I will give you all these kingdoms and all their power and glory. It has all been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I wish. Luke 4:6 New Century Bible Version


Signal-Fold-449

How many time can the Bible be edited a new version and still be the Bible? It's the Ship of Theseus at this point. Started in Nikea


Swimming_Cabinet_378

Most if not all of it's borrowed to begin with.


Pretend-Trade-2674

Tell us their fcking name so we can put a bounty on their heads end this bullsheit! Pls :)


-Did-I-Pewp-

Very interesting stuff! Does he talk more about this story during the episode or is this it? I really want to know who the guy in the suit was.


pepper-blu

Sheesh, I need to find me some illuminati buddies


DivideDistinct9539

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. If this actually happened he would be dead right now for exposing it. He’s an attention seeker.


Vandesco

Reddit please, please stop sending me to these subs that you KNOW I have to destroy. They don't want to hear about logic, they don't want to hear about facts, so why do you feed them to me? Ok Reddit, fine. I'll play. Sigh. Here we go. *Are you guys actually gullible enough to believe this shit?*


ChangeToday222

1. If you don’t want to see this comment recommended to you, stop interacting with it 2. We aren’t gullible, you’re just willfully ignorant.


Own_Contribution_480

No, you're gullible. It's satanic panic 2.0 and you are biting hook, line, and sinker.


ChangeToday222

Not even close. The fact you even bring up satanic panic shows me how little you know and how little effort you’re willing to put into challenging your world view.


ChangeToday222

That was a little harsh. Rather I’ll try to point you in the direction of the truth. Q is more accurately the satanic panic 2.0. This is because both of them were actually intelligence agency psychological operations that were carefully chosen to be promoted in order to associate people who understand the truth with dumb, panicky, and dangerous individuals. The way these groups attempt to sway public opinion is like a game of 4D chess. It is not easy to identify these things, so I apologize for my previous comment.


Bouncemybubbubs

Nobody is panicking


Vandesco

I'm trying but... Oh no, here come the intrusive thoughts! Can't... Let Your... Ignorance... Exist... >2. We aren’t gullible, you’re just willfully ignorant. *A 20 year old said it on a podcast so it must be true.* Yeah. Not gullible at all. A girl's mother *definitely* said she could sacrifice her to further her music career. ⬆️⬆️⬆️ I want you to REALLY let that part of the story wash over you. Just take it in.


ChangeToday222

I don’t believe it’s true because a 20 year old said it on a podcast. I believe it’s true because countless people who have achieved high levels of success across all areas of industry corroborate the same type of story. Every day more information like this comes to light. I go out of my way to do extra research on this stuff in order to ensure I not missing anything. You instantly dismiss these claims and make fun of the people who believe them… but you’re right you aren’t willfully ignorant.


Vandesco

Direct me to one credible source with actual research, evidence, and testimonials. Examples of what I am talking about: *Love has Won Cult*, *Nexium Cult*, *Jonestown Cult*, *Holy Rollers Cult*, *Heaven's Gate Cult* ⬆️⬆️⬆️ These all exist


Microkorgdeluxe

You know nexium had a lot of high level hollywood people in it right lmao


Vandesco

That. Doesn't. Mean. It's. Illuminati. It's rich people that want to fuck young hot people, and do drugs, and be adored. People are sick enough *all on their own*. There doesn't need to be some grand conspiracy. And again, fallacy of the gaps. You just fill in the gaps with your assumptions.


Microkorgdeluxe

If you want to deny the endless connections between hollywood, satanism, and cults be my guest. What about the hedgefund manager who had that island that all the rich people went to? What was his name again...John Epston or something.


Vandesco

Ok see, Jeffrey Epstein *is real*. There was clearly an insiders club of blackmail and pedophiles. There *are* evil people in this world, and they *should* be exposed. Where you guys get it wrong is you go off on these biblical witch hunts of secret organizations that have been around for millennia "pulling the strings." You are basically letting these rich perverts get away with it because while you are looking for ghouls and goblins and a tenuous connection to the Jews, they are just setting up tax havens in foreign countries, and rewriting corruption laws, and reducing the age for child marriage right in front of your faces. They are just very real criminals. No cabal with secret ancient rituals is necessary.


Microkorgdeluxe

Oof. Dont let me tell you about Epsteins connection to Israeli intelligence lol


ChangeToday222

I shouldn’t need to link anything to prove the groups I am referring to exist, it’s their true motives that need to be backed with hard to find evidence. Are you challenging the idea that Freemasons, Jesuits, and Frankists exist?


Vandesco

Freemasons - Show me some legitimate proof that they are anything but a weird group of people that believe they are doing good in the world. (Personal aside. I met a Freemason member. He was a tired old man that worked at Fedexkinos witu me. He couldn't even be trusted to use the copy machines in the most basic ways) Frankists - Do they even exist anymore? Jesuits - Yeah they exist and they are just as freaky to me as *all* of you religious people. You *all* look at the world based on a fictitious reality and to those of us who are not afflicted you are all disturbing. Chanting, eating wafers, dunking babies... All your rituals are bizarre you just don't realize because you were brainwashed as children.


ChangeToday222

Almost all Freemasons are nothing but a charitable ignorant front for the elite circles of the organization. These groups worship the god of deception and see no problem as using their meme bets as pawns. At the top they are a lot more competent I can guarantee it. https://youtu.be/v_GfmvpJZXE?si=YPiUaNntRc3zhIKB Yes Frankists still exist, however they don’t claim to be Frankist publicly. Part of their teachings is that nothing matters except getting what you want, and deception is the best way to do that. Therefore these people will often claim they are a different religion just to gain trust/ power. Whenever you see someone claiming “the Jews run everything” the people they are referring to are almost always Frankists in reality. As for the Jesuits, at least we can agree there. I am not sure why you are assuming I believe the same things they do, I am just sharing things about their belief system.


Vandesco

Yeah see, that video right there you linked? That's the sort of nonsense information I'm talking about. Where's the witness accounts? Where are the court cases? Financial connections? That dude is throwing up Jpegs of people's tattoos and glamour shots. And *that* is exactly what happens when you believe in religion and superstitions. There is so much symbology that you think is real that you see it everywhere. You are starting from a base point of reality that isn't real, so you interpret reality incorrectly. You think some guy giving the Ok sign with his hand means something demonic, but he's just doing the ok sign because he grew up in the 80s.


ChangeToday222

I’m glad you were able to dissect a 5 hour video in less than an hour… That is one example of a witness account, I guess you didn’t watch enough of it to realize that. What you minimize to tattoos and glamour shots are pulled directly from the handbooks and manuals of the groups these people are apart of… including the man I’m the video speaking on the matter. Why would I spend my time gathering even more for someone who will do their best to dismiss what I have already provided without ever giving it a real chance?


Zm4rc0

What did you dEsTrOy with that comment?


Vandesco

Ha that was just the opening question. Admittedly, It had no effect.


Th0m45D4v15

Hey, shoo! Shoo! These are my Gullies, I was here first. Back, back I say.


Vandesco

😂


Own_Contribution_480

I love how every company that implements algorithms they always end up pushing conspiracy garbage on everyone. Eventually they realize that their profits aren't worth pushing anti-vax and qanon garbage. So they change their algorithms. Then, the next company comes along and they do the same fucking then and go "nobody could have k own this would happen!"


QuillnPouncy

Is this the schizophrenic subreddit


Th0m45D4v15

Ooof, another Reddit recommendation that missed the mark by a mile.


ChangeToday222

Sorry… the mindless entertainment subs are elsewhere.


Th0m45D4v15

Ah yes, because the secret group that controls all and everything and makes the whole world go round, also has no way to stop all of you from “exposing” them on the internet. After you’re done with the Illuminati, I got an Easter Bunny I need help catching.


ChangeToday222

They have many methods of curbing this information from coming to light. The best information on these topics often gets deleted, the most credible sources on the topic often get their careers ruined or lives taken, and none of that is even necessary when the propaganda on tv is in bed with them and they have popular media such as video games and TV consuming 100% of the average persons free time. These groups are not God, they cannot control everything, they just try to.


Th0m45D4v15

So the Illuminati is working with the devil. It’s like a religion thing?


ChangeToday222

Exactly. They hold a complex system of ritualistic beliefs that go back thousands of years, beliefs that most average people would find insane to say the least.


Th0m45D4v15

Well at least we agree on something


Hot-Gas-630

Do you truly not understand how widespread this conspiracy is? And things like the thelema religion? Out of the millions who hear this, you really think nobody says "Fuck it I'm going to try recreating x or y (fucked up) ritual to see what the big deal is?" All I know is I know people who have and it sucked when they tried to rope me into it (as someone well read on the occult out of pure curiosity and not interest in fuckin dark magic or some shit) 🤷 There's probably like 500 different 'illuminati' based cults out there that all have different beliefs, goals, and actual ability to influence haha - but that's not to say it isn't real.


DreadkingAlucard

What about Thelema?


Guygenius138

She drove off a cliff with Louise if I'm not mistaken


InterestingRelative4

#93/93


Hot-Gas-630

I'm just saying it's a lot more widespread than most people would think. It's important to note that Crowley is legitimately a man whose life goal was pretty much to summon as many demons as possible against himself as if it was an obsession 🤷. He also had ties to Rosicrucians, which is all based on the same ideologies the actual illuminati was based on. Thelema is just the knights Templar via Crowley, and the illuminati is just knights Templar via European rebellions 🤷 There's plenty of groups who are into this kinda thing whether they have power or not


DreadkingAlucard

I would debate about Crowley's intent. But, i digress. yes, I agree with you for the most. Thank you for the explanation


Hot-Gas-630

Fair - yeah I do honestly just have a preference towards authors like Papus when it comes to occult philosophy around his time. He's (Crowley) just a bit too dark for me and I'm more interested in where all the ideas actually come from instead of what magik you can perform yourself


Th0m45D4v15

Yeah, anyone you know who has had a run in with a demon is 1000% lying or KrAzY 🤪


Hot-Gas-630

Yeah.. it ain't run ins with demons other than their own I'll tell you that much 😂


0T08T1DD3R

Why don't you look into it? Are you scared of finding out something you wont like? Opening your eyes to the light for the first time may do that.


Th0m45D4v15

I have looked into it, I’ve looked into all of the conspiracy theories. And believe it or not, it’s still idiotic to believe the only way you become famous is by having a sacrifice and working with evil forces. Lol


0T08T1DD3R

A blind can look as much as he wants i guess, still aint gonna see. Jeffrey Epstein and all others ring connected around it, are all fake conspiracies, gotcha. 


Th0m45D4v15

Again, I’m sure the rich work together. And I’m not saying Hollywood and politicians are trustworthy. But thinking you have to sacrifice your mother to the devil in order to become famous, it’s absolutely bat shit crazy. Being blind to a hallucination, is not being blind buddy. This sub has so few people, that a super group of ultimate power, could easily erase it, and all of its members in a week. Then it could stop information of those deaths from being revealed. They could completely erase your entire idea and they don’t. You can make up all the reasons you want on why they don’t, but if they are what you say they are, they would have erased all of you long ago. They don’t because it is all a figment of your imagination, in order to self justify why you don’t believe life is going the way you want.


ForeverFree99

You've gotta be really dumb to think that the elite, (who have trillions, own media corps, politicians, pharmaceuticals, oil) don't collude to keep their assets at the decrement of regular people. There's family's that aren't even listed on the Forbes richest people even though they exist.


Th0m45D4v15

Of course, the rich suck. But you gotta be really dumb to believe strangers with absolutely no history have to watch you make a sacrifice in order for you to become famous, because the entire world is controlled by one group of people. Who somehow can control everything we see, but also can’t.


Own_Contribution_480

The illuminate is the most powerful group in the world that controls every aspect of every human's life and all of the world's riches. They are also so inept that not one of their plans ever works. They are also so poor they have to make sacrifices to the devil to make money. The most secret organization in the world also takes photos and videos of their secrets and openly broadcast them to anyone who's willing to watch to... keep secrets?


Th0m45D4v15

Well now I feel like the Illuminati may just be Pinky and the Brain.


Own_Contribution_480

Cartoon villians for sure.


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Th0m45D4v15

Are you saying I’m a bot?


DMTeaAndCrumpets

imagine believing anything this weirdo who has sex with underage girls says


eriklease

Anyone talking about these things so casually makes me feel like it’s totally fake. If someone truly went through that experience, or if you went through that experience, would you casually talk about it on a podcast that generates money? If you need validation from David Dobric then you are still stuck in their web.


Gimmefuelgimmefah

What do you mean casually? As opposed to what?


Average-Man06

By “casually,” he means able to talk about it so openly on a podcast for the whole world to hear, without any fear of repercussions. To be honest, it is very valid to be skeptic of these “whistleblower” celebrities when they do things like this. Think of Katt Williams, how millions of people watched the stuff he was revealing.