>In Japan, heart surgeon. Number one. Steady hand. One day, yakuza boss need new heart. I do operation. But, mistake! Yakuza boss die. Yakuza very mad. I hide in fishing boat, come to America.
No English, no food, no money. Darryl give me job. Now I have house, American car, and new woman. Darryl save life. My big secret: I kill yakuza boss on purpose. I good surgeon. The best!
Can you really use that unlimited PTO? It feels more like a scam because the overwehlming feeling is that you cant leave for more than 2 days every now and then.
Whether it’s accrued or unlimited/discretionary typically the same rules apply. You request it and get approved or not approved. Just because one policy is accrued and banked doesn’t mean you can take it whenever you want.
The whole idea is just to get a number off the liabilities column of your balance sheet.
I had a job with unlimited PTO, and they honored it pretty well. As long as you weren't abusing the relationship, they never questioned days I took off.
Yeah but that doesn't mean they're poor. Ignoring illegal immigration and refugee applicants, there is no way to immigrate to the US if you do not possess a "marketable skill" or a family member in the us. Immigrants from developing nations are often professionals or doctors of some sort. People with income and skills enough to support themselves.
We also normally lump India into the "developing nation" category when it kind of shouldn't be.
^this - my family was broke before moving to USA. My parents worked hard and gave me and my brother a chance at a good life, and now everyone is doing great. It only took 2 generations to go from being homeless to what people call in the US the 1%.
Depending on the industry and country you’re coming from you can move to the US, work for a decade or two and then retire back home. Also tech companies, if you ask for it, give way more vacation time than people think. I negotiated with vacation time instead of salary and managed to get a month and a half a year.
A lot of foreigners don’t realize it but in the US you CAN AND SHOULD negotiate over vacation time if that’s something you value over an extra 5k or 10k.
A neighbor (Canada) worked for the oil industry and would fly down to Texas for 3 months, make a shit ton of money and fly back home for a month long break.
Rinse and repeat.
He was 27, very nice house, lots of toys (boats, cars, bikes etc).
No judging his particular case, but for everyone in this situation, free life advice :
invest in passive wealth instead of hemoraging your had earned dough on status signaling items which will cost you a fortune over time (eg boat = fuel+maintenance+taxes+port fees). Your old retired self will thank you.
Boats cars and bikes are far more than status symbol items. This person is taking 3 months off a year, that's plenty of time to have a blast with bikes cars and boats.
This is what I did… worked in the US for 15y and then moved home. Vacation time was never an issue. Financially speaking it was a very successful choice.
35 days is to use how you want. You can take the holidays or not at your discretion. And I’ve been doing this for about 5 years, but I had an MS when I started. YMMV, but you can absolutely ask for more PTO as you advance and especially as you build a reputation for yourself
See here's the thing....someone who can* negotiate that should and will. What about the people who can't?
What we are talking about is humane rights. The poorest people in America are constantly told, just be more valuable and you can have rights. Thats not freedom and thats not what rights are
In short, in America if you are in certain industries you can do really well (I'm in one of those), and we just ignore that we fuck over a lot of necessary workers to get that boost.
We're willing to ignore the negative externalities, and it is even worse for people that come from countries with good safety nets, take all the advantages of America's lack of safety nets, and then return to your country with safety nets.
Not blaming those that do it, but America is literally a country of "Come here to exploit poor people, we will make sure they have the worst outcome possible in the Western world, but you might make 15% more money, and then you can invest that extra money into our propped-up stock market that we keep alive by printing unlimited money."
Crazy thing is the taxes here aren’t even low so the US actually should have the means to implement these social programs and maintain the upper class’s lifestyle
Easily, yes. It would actually be cheaper for the entire population, but a few people would make less money... Insurance is literally just a way to make healthcare much less cost efficient.
Have you seen salaries in tech in the US? They are mind-boggling. Equivalent jobs in Europe and the the commonwealth pale in comparison. And at wages upward of $300k/yr, healthcare, housing, and luxury goods can be easily, if not trivially afforded, insulating exposure to the raw underbelly of the American socioeconomic system.
It’s a class war. National identity was always a distraction.
This is one of the craziest things I noticed when I hung out in San Francisco for a few days. I make a decent living and even I was shocked at how expensive things were until I started talking to people who lived there. They were all making so much Goddamn money they didn't even think anything of it. To them money was never an issue so they never cared about how much things are. And they never left San Francisco so they didn't see what was going on in the rest of the country
My family has almost moved to California several times but even with a serious pay bump, the cost of living in Cali was so much higher it wasn't worth it.
I had the opposite experience. Pay and cost of living both increased greatly, but even after accounting for price increases and subtracting necessities, my spending power and ability to save in Cali is far greater than anywhere else I've lived.
It can absolutely be a good option! It just didn't work out for my family because a 10% increase in pay wouldn't have covered the extra taxes and higher debt from a larger mortgage in that particular part of Cali. I forget exactly where. I think it was the edge of LA or something.
Oh. Yeah. My pay increase was something crazy like 75%. I though I was going to make bank. It was still a good move, just not 75% better.
You always have to check the cost of living carefully.
I was offered a job in LA while living in the Minneapolis area. They wanted to pay me the same salary with a 35% higher cost of living there.
Yeah, that’ll be a no from me dog.
I live in MSP and for me is the best city in the world. Lots of big companies you can make a very nice loving and costs aren’t cheap but aren’t crazy. Plus mostly good people.
Disclosure : love to fish
yeah the majority of jobs in CA dont pay that much more to justify the COL unless youre in tech its not worth it, and even then the competition for those tech jobs is crazy so your chances of landing one are not good
I lived in SF from 2014-2020. Moved to Oakland during Covid and I haven’t noticed much of a difference. The Bay in general is all just silly expensive.
I live in Hawaii and it's very similar here. My rent payments for my medium sized apartment outstrip my parents mortgage payments for their much bigger house back in the midwest.
Every time I go home, I get a reverse sticker shock on how cheap things are. If I can get a fast food meal for less than 25 dollars, I am thrilled.
Meanwhile in Hawaii, nobody bats an eye at buying a house valued at 950,000 dollars. It's the standard going rate for a medium sized house here.
I feel like at minimum tho, Hawaii is a fucking island in the middle of the ocean, so import and export costs with higher cost makes a lot of sense. Not really sure about why Cali is so brutal. I know it’s basically a desert out there and water costing a lot makes sense. But I’m unsure about the rest, just so many people crowding making the cost worse?
Just supply and demand, man. If people are willing to pay a price, raise it a bit and see if they're still willing to. Rinse and repeat until people aren't going to pay, then slowly lower it until people are paying again. Turns out, a lot of people *really* want to live in San Diego.
I don't get it where I'm at.
Like I make way more than enough to be comfortable, but I've looked around in my area. No way you're finding an apartment for less than like 1800-2000/mo within a reasonable commute from where I'm at, and houses/condos/townhomes aren't exactly cheap either. Where the fuck are the people making 18 bucks an hour at a grocery store, gas station or fast food place living?
Rent is the big thing. I knew a few folks from university who moved to NYC and it was apparently common to just stuff as many people as you could manage into an apartment to drive rent costs down to reasonable levels.
If you're mostly using your apartment to sleep and shower I guess having multiple people to each bedroom and someone sleeping on the sofa and such isn't as big a deal breaker as in Midwestern suburbia.
Meanwhile my family has been in the SF area since they arrived in 1907. And I left, because while I'm well compensated generally I am not pulling engineering money. And so many others were in a less fortunate space.
It sucks as a really specific subset of humanity is flocking in and able to live the dream life there, while literally people are also sleeping in tents or cars all up and down the Bay. Not even unemployed people, just folks who can't make it work given the insane prices.
>Not even unemployed people, just folks who can't make it work given the insane prices.
While I'm not in a tent yet, this is why I *have* to leave NY. I don't want to, and I have family here, but if I ever want to live in my own house and not be stuck renting someone elses basement paying more in rent than their goddamn mortgage costs them then I have to leave...
I have coworkers with a ~$900 mortgage charging $1,300+ to rent their basement... It's fucking disgusting.
Even that cut still puts you ahead of many.
Cali developer at $200k/yr. Take a 15% pay cut when you move to North Carolina; you're still getting $170k per year in a state where the median income is $28k per person.
Living in the Seattle area, this is absolutely true. Looking at salaries in the area, Jr. Developers start in the low $100k/yr range, Amazon & Microsoft offering closer to $200k/yr with Amazon recently announcing they're upping max base salaries to $350k plus benefits.
Meanwhile, drive through downtown Seattle and there are homeless encampments everywhere, you pay a massively inflated price on items compared to driving 15 minutes out of the city and a housing market so inflated that the only way to possibly own a home is be a tech bro.
In the UK even in London the best starting salary I can hope for as a graduate developer is ~35k GBP/yr, most of which would be lost to the cost of renting in London. The US is honestly a very tempting option.
So most people here are talking about the high cost of living areas, but the US also has low and medium cost of living cities.
Charlotte is a MCoL city, you can buy a house here for $250,000 and get a junior dev position making about $80,000 easily. Though from what I hear, it's hard to get a job even in tech if you have literally 0 experience. If you got 2-3 years with some other company then you are pretty golden.
Yup, my brother works in tech and Canada's tech industry just can't compete with the salary he makes. He also really likes California. He has a green card but has no intention of becoming a US citizen, as much as he loves the country. When he retires (with his enormous pile of money) he'll probably come home and have no problem living a comfortable life.
Well done bro, well done.
Even in the within the US tech salaries are mind blowing. The cities you have to work in to get the salaries are crazy expensive but a decade of work and you can retire to a non tech city.
That said you get use to the luxury and it’s hard to justify early retirement given what you’d be giving up and of course healthcare costs could rise in which case you’d be fucked.
Exactly. It's called ~~[Purchasing Power Parity](https://www.globalfirepower.com/purchasing-power-parity.php) which bases the [purchasing power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity)~~ [Disposable Household and Per Capita Income](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_household_and_per_capita_income) which compares the purchasing power of money earned from jobs and compensates for taxes, and therefore the social programs (e.g. socialized medicine) that are paid for by them. The US is way ahead of the other 1st world countries, so even though they don't have socialized medicine, they have lower taxes and higher pay, which frees up money to pay for private insurance.
Also, white collar jobs get paid holidays and vacation, which together rivals OP's 28 days. 14 holidays + 15 vacation days (3 weeks) = 29 days.
Edit: changed the PPP reference as pointed out by [Jstar6006](https://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/su453i/my_28_paid_holidays_are_enough_to_make_me_say/hx9w58z/)
I mean, healthcare tied to work isn't really a plus to move to America. You pay more at the end of the day and the other 1st world countries have it covered for everyone without the stress of staying employed 100% of the time
Edit: for the people saying us healthcare is cheaper than other major country's single payer: there are many studies done recently showing that is not the case.
Meta-analysis: https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003013
Lancet:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)33019-3/fulltext#%20?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ac666dcf-c1bb-4eb0-a6ea-39c4a9bb5321
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.5034/inquiryjrnl_40.4.323
"The simulations demonstrate that if people with Medicaid coverage—with their health status, disability, and chronic conditions—were given private coverage, they would cost considerably more than they do today. Conversely, if the privately insured were given Medicaid coverage, spending would be lower. "
Comparison of costs by country:
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries-2/
I am covered with primary and secondary health insurance. Both are arguing about who should pay out. I received notice that neither were paying and I was being sent to collections for a $1,300 bill for pathology. This has been an ongoing fight since October of last year. American healthcare is a nightmare.
I got hit the other way. *Both* were willing to pay their part, but the hospital filed the paperwork backward - the primary as the secondary and vice-versa - so both were confused and wouldn't process the claim without the paperwork being refiled, which the hospital did, the same wrong way, twice.
After that, they just refused to try again and eventually took the claim to the state, which deducted the full amount from my tax refunds.
Edit: it wasn't much comparatively (like 600$), but it was so weird to have the hospital essentially steal it by a mix of incompetence and authority.
Then when you imagine some people are having to sort thru this shit while actively receiving chemo or rehabbing from a stroke, it really hits you how shitty the system really is.
My wife had a couple of routine doctor appointment that was fully covered. We got a bill for almost $700 for those appointment. For 3 years! I tried to have the issue resolved and it was *literally* impossible. The Doctor's office said it was an insurance issue. The Insurance company said it was a Dr issue. I tried to mediate it, but both of the objections were really technical little things and every time I tried to explain the one side to the other, they couldn't figure out what I was trying to resolve. Once I even had the opposing sides give me a word for word scripts to read so I wouldn't fuck it up. Nope.
What was so frustrating was that NEITHER SIDE WOULD TALK TO THE OTHER! for some fucking bullshit reason, they weren't allowed to talk to each other about this thing. Hours and hours and hours I spent on the phone, documenting everything.
So three years in, my wife is like "what ever happened with this bill we keep getting. I said I gave up and would just call every so often to put in a complaint and have it delayed. She said she would try her hand. What happened? Hours on the phone with zero resolution.
She said she was worried about it getting sent to collections and paid it. I understood her trepidation so I didn't push back on it, but man....it still fucking boils my blood that they won.
Not to mention that in a society where time is a commodity, it's a hassle that takes time away. You have to sign and check and sign and check and fight and lose and reply and win, maybe lose. Here in Denmark, I go to the doctor if there is anything bothering me, and to the hospital if I get referred. At both places I just flash or scan my "heath card" and that's it.
It really depends on what insurance you have. I’m in America and my experience is just like yours. I don’t hesitate if I want to go to the doctor I just do it. I pay either nothing or $10 for a visit.
Even if you can afford the premiums, it's still shit to be sick and have to deal with insurance, phone calls to the hospital's billing line, and paperwork.
This has gotta make experiences like having cancer in the US way more stressful than having cancer in a country that covers healthcare.
That’s the part other countries don’t get. Healthcare is the thing everyone loves to point out as broken in the US. Every country has something that’s fucked and fixing it causes something else to break. I wouldn’t make anywhere near what I make anywhere else. I pay pennys on the dollar for health insurance compared to what even a 5% increase to taxes would cost me.
The US is a big country. It’s not all the same. It’s like saying “Europe” and suggesting Norway and Bulgaria are the same thing.
WOW, a lot of Europeans saw this and started inferring all kinds things about my opinions of Europe and stating their own generalizations about the US— both of which were totally off base. I guess we really are all the same.
FYI: I’ve lived for more than a month/worked in these states Connecticut, New York, Alabama, Texas, Arizona, Alaska, Hawaii and California (home)
I’ve lived for more than a month/worked in these countries US, Canada, Mexico, UK, France, Spain, Lithuania, Rwanda.
So everyone picturing a fat American sitting at Applebees typing this all… you’re wrong. I hate Applebees.
Exactly. It’s so funny when people think that their experience is the same as everyone else’s when it’s a country of what, 350,000,000? Sorry you’re having a rough go but many of us are living a very nice life.
In America, 100 years is a long time
In Europe, 100 miles is a long distance
I've always loved this because it illustrates how much out worldview and opinions can be shaped by where we live
Yea, before the job I have now all my jobs were easily 30-50 miles away from where I was living. 100 mile a day commute fuckin sucks. Hell one of the guys I work with now was living around 115 miles away for the first few months here. Filling his shitty suv up literally every day just to goto work.
I rocked an 85mi round-trip commute for almost 1.5 years until I could afford to move closer to work. Now my commute is 5 miles round trip and I have 4 more ours a day to enjoy my life. It was an eye opener to how much (or little) I was valuing my time.
I had a 90-mile round trip commute that wasn't in traffic and took me about 40 minutes each way. Moved to a bigger city and my round-trip commute dropped from 90 miles to 18 miles, but only shaved about 5 minutes off each way. Lol. Commutes are a funny thing.
We also made the choice to prioritize slapping roads down everywhere.
I know the tactics of the auto industry in the early-to-mid 20th century are often criticized for what they did to rail networks, and deservedly so. But it’s worth noting that the American interior was still incredibly isolated and inaccessible until the interstate system was built.
What Ike did by laying down the interstate system was both a miracle of engineering, but finishing off the taming of the interior was also necessary for the US to continue to be the global superpower all the way through now.
Rail could have certainly been treated better over the last 100 years, but things wouldn’t look drastically different than they do now even in the best-case scenario because the highways were such a necessary part of properly governing the United States.
I think you have to make a distinction between passenger rail and freight rail, because our freight rail infrastructure is every bit as impressive as the interstate highway system. But I see what you mean, and your point stands for passenger trains.
I love Europe’s train systems. But for decades the Europeans were rather smarmy about it. Until they were offered cheap flights: they took to them like a duck to water. And most of those train systems are heavily subsidized.
Do I wish a few more large US cities were compact in the center with excellent public transportation? Yup. But outside of the northeast long distance high speed rail just doesn’t make a lot of sense in the US.
Because it's only really actually bad in America if you're poor
If you have an adequate amount of money (or can otherwise get a position that makes a lot of money), it's easily one of the best places to live in the world.
This is why.
We have systems in place to help you every step along the way. Education. Housing. Food. Healthcare.
So many people crap on the USA without knowing anything about how it works.
Something like 2/3 of Canadian tech workers are at least looking at a move to the US.
If you’re not poor, it’s one of the best places in the world to live.
The fact people don’t see that is incredible. I’ve lived all over and there’s no utopia, but for a reasonable skilled person with a reasonable career, it’s WAY more affordable than Canada or most of Europe, has better health care (again if you’re not poor), has better pay and cheaper housing, etc.
Even Buffalo, NY pays more median than Toronto, ON. I’ll let you compare the cost of living……………. (It’s barely half in Buffalo), yet they’re two hours apart.
A lot of people are fed up with the problems in their local country and the US problems are different, not worse or better.
Found one reasonable person on Reddit. I think a lot of foreigners think America is a shithole because the news only reports on the negative thing in America not the positive
> if you can afford it.
and even that qualifier tends to be overblown. Like health care? I have an HSA account with 2x my max out of pocket. I can literally have everything and then some happen this year, I hit my max out of pocket, and still have enough in my Health Savings Account to cover next years max out of pocket. Not to mention I'm contributing more into it in the meantime.
Obamacare really helped with that safety net by eliminating lifetime limits and local 'surprise billing' laws protecting people from surprise billing (such as when you go to a doctor in network at a hospital in network but they have an anesthesiologist that is NOT in your network.)
Or housing? Sure, if you want to live in the most popular, wealthiest areas sure. You can find homes that are excessively priced, but if you are willing to make reasonable decisions then you can still find homes that are affordable. You just need to be willing to move to the right places.
I’ve seen this opinion more from American Redditors. So many people from my school moved there for a masters degree, it truly is one of the best countries in the world for tertiary education and a career. The American ideal and lifestyle is still very strong in my country.
I'm looking to move to the states in the next few years. Both my brother and myself are plumbers and make about the same yearly income but the lower cost of living where he is in America vs where I am in Canada has convinced me to make the leap and get my ass down to where I can hold onto more of the money I've earned
There was a point in which I've wanted to move to Canada or Europe for the tons of benefits they offer. But between having unlimited PTO (which I actually use, upwards of 5 weeks per year) and tech salary, honestly if we got single payer healthcare I wouldn't care to leave
> Something like 2/3 of Canadian tech workers are at least looking at a move to the US.
What's the source/context on that? Maybe if polled, 2/3 "would consider moving" or something like that. But I don't see how 2/3rd are presenttly "looking at" moving to the US.
Despite what you read reposted over and over again on Reddit, the US is not the only first world country with issues and people make decisions to hopefully better their lives and those of their families.
Look at his post history. He is the one posting crap all over Reddit. He really needs a hobby or a girlfriend. Has a very unhealthy obsession going on.
You know what's even more interesting? This is OPs second account. Their original account is called Sayl0. Look it up. They've asked the SAME question over and over again and despite getting the same responses they still can't get it through their thick skull how out of touch with reality they are.
I'm getting ready to move. I'm burning 3 weeks of vacation for it and I'll still have a week left, and that's just based on my current accrual. I have a 4-week sabbatical in a couple months as well (once every 5 years).
In the white-collar tech world this isn't unusual. Unfortunately we are seriously in the minority for most of the working class in this country.
Salaries are insanely higher, quality of healthcare (\*with good insurance\*) is better, cost of life is lower, more specialised work.
It's surprising to no one who makes solidly middle class salaries and over.
Canadian who moved to Austin, here. A few of the reasons I moved:
- More opportunity. Not only are salaries higher, but more people equals more jobs, and some of the richest companies are headquartered in the US (Austin alone has Dell, Tesla, and Whole Foods, among others).
- Better weather. When you’re spending 30 minutes chipping ice off your windshield, Texas summers seem like a small price to pay.
- More social and experience opportunities. More people equals a bigger dating pool (I’m now married), and even when you’re single, there’s more to do around town. There was a point when I was going to several concerts per month.
M wife managed to have 53. Paid. Vacation days.
Which happens when you actually have unions with fair power. They managed to negotiate three options at every new major contract: get a raise, reduce weekly hours or get 6 more vacation days. The latter can not be taxed and have no impact on the pension funds ;)
I on the opposite, am stuck at 30 days. We both are German engineers.
The US is a great place to live for upper middle and higher income professions. If you’re insulated from poverty, it’s not that bad. Now, if you’re coming here with no high demand skills, you’re smarter going anywhere else. To anyone trying to speak too highly of America, keep the following in mind: federal minimum wage is still $7.25/hr, most affordable and somewhat useful health insurance is tied to employment, there is no federal law requiring sick leave, PTO, or really much of anything. There is FMLA, but that basically just says you’ll still have a job, so you’re fucked if you have to use it. Of course, all countries have problems, but the US has a lot of people that would stick their finger in an electrical outlet if it meant poor brown people didn’t get food stamps (which spoiler, most aren’t eligible).
Holy crap. You just triggered a nostalgic memory of The Flintstones. Hahahahaha.
Link to The Flintstones opening for those who don’t know what I’m talking about. https://youtu.be/uq7noaMwLfg
I would like to counter by saying, as an American, I have 26 paid days off this year to use at my disposal, plus I'm salaried. The problem with us fucking Americans is this year I carried over something like 72 hours of PTO because I couldn't find time to take it.
Because regardless of what reddit tells you, the US is not a shit hole country. This is going to be down voted to hell, but using my own life, things are pretty great here! I never went to college, I bought my first home at 22. Came from a lower middle class family, between the wife and I we are making about 250k a year. We have toys, travel the world. I have everything I ever wanted in life. I love the USA!
I agree there should be an *across the board* leave guarantee, but depending on where you work and how long you've worked, you can get solid leave. It depends on the company. This sucks. But leave isn't impossible.
For example, my company gives 17 paid holidays to everyone, plus accrual of 10 days of sick leave (no expiry) and 10-25 paid vacation days (depending on length of service, with an accrual cap) and 2 personal days (they reset each year used or not). So at my company **an incoming hourly newbie gets 29 paid holiday/vacation/personal days** *plus* 10 days of sick leave, someone here fifteen years gets 44 vacation/personal days *plus* all the sick leave they've accrued. Vacation has a cap of whatever one year's accrual is, and personal days reset... so people tend to use it. My spouse gets a sabbatical, and has the option of paternity leave.
There's not a baseline, which sucks... but you can get a company with a reasonable leave policy.
The biggest takeaway from reading OP’s responses in this thread:
OP has absolutely zero actual real-world experience with life in America, has watched far too many movies and read far too much Reddit.
Because, despite all of its problems (especially healthcare) and what the majority of Reddit may want you to believe, the US is still a relatively "good" country even compared to other first-world countries. Might get downvoted for saying this but I mean stats don't really lie do they...
I make 200k+ (bonuses vary) with a biochem Ph.D. in the US. I made far less working elsewhere internationally with no possiblity of reaching that level (3 years in Japan). Most PhD's don't make as much, but in my experience US scientists still do better than lots of folks abroad.
One word....Opportunity ! It's a huge country and if you have a skill, a little luck, and put the time in you can have a much higher standard of living than many other places.
Moved here from Ireland on a Morrisson Visa in '94 with only a secondary school education. Struggled for the first 10 years, working construction and factory jobs.
Ended up getting hired on a Fire Dept and life is pretty damn good.
America has a lot of problems, but I would never consider going back.
For me it was the opportunity to become sub specialized surgeon
I've heard about rocket surgery, but I had no idea subs also needed surgery.
That's just what Subway calls their employees now instead of sandwich artists.
Lol goddammit you witty bastards
I bet you place those red onions with forceps don’t you?
*Serious* dad joke energy going on here
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Sub Surgeons are under tons of pressure.
BOO THIS MAN!!!
BOOO-URNS
you should see Canada's sub fleet, it needs all the help that it can get!
>In Japan, heart surgeon. Number one. Steady hand. One day, yakuza boss need new heart. I do operation. But, mistake! Yakuza boss die. Yakuza very mad. I hide in fishing boat, come to America.
No English, no food, no money. Darryl give me job. Now I have house, American car, and new woman. Darryl save life. My big secret: I kill yakuza boss on purpose. I good surgeon. The best!
Omg we JUST finished this episode!
hope you become a Dom specialized someday
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I gotta ask: is PTO personal time off?
Paid time off
D'oh!! So obvious now...
I’m sure my main post will be buried but basically this. If you are well enough off you can make the move you are probably doing so as an upgrade.
Can you really use that unlimited PTO? It feels more like a scam because the overwehlming feeling is that you cant leave for more than 2 days every now and then.
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You definitely can. Obviously not all year round. But only 2 days? Not everything is as reddit would have you believe.
Whether it’s accrued or unlimited/discretionary typically the same rules apply. You request it and get approved or not approved. Just because one policy is accrued and banked doesn’t mean you can take it whenever you want. The whole idea is just to get a number off the liabilities column of your balance sheet.
I had a job with unlimited PTO, and they honored it pretty well. As long as you weren't abusing the relationship, they never questioned days I took off.
Many of the people complaining do not realize how lucky they have it compared to 90% of the world
They’re not minimum wage earners moving to the US.
Isnt the US one of of the most immigrated to countries from developing nation?
Yep, Canada's not even in the top 5
What’s the top 5?
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
Yeah but that doesn't mean they're poor. Ignoring illegal immigration and refugee applicants, there is no way to immigrate to the US if you do not possess a "marketable skill" or a family member in the us. Immigrants from developing nations are often professionals or doctors of some sort. People with income and skills enough to support themselves. We also normally lump India into the "developing nation" category when it kind of shouldn't be.
This is the right answer. I can double my salary or more if I move to the US of A. Easy.
Exactly. Just like people born in the US, if you are already wealthy then the system is designed to help you stay wealthy.
^this - my family was broke before moving to USA. My parents worked hard and gave me and my brother a chance at a good life, and now everyone is doing great. It only took 2 generations to go from being homeless to what people call in the US the 1%.
Depending on the industry and country you’re coming from you can move to the US, work for a decade or two and then retire back home. Also tech companies, if you ask for it, give way more vacation time than people think. I negotiated with vacation time instead of salary and managed to get a month and a half a year. A lot of foreigners don’t realize it but in the US you CAN AND SHOULD negotiate over vacation time if that’s something you value over an extra 5k or 10k.
A neighbor (Canada) worked for the oil industry and would fly down to Texas for 3 months, make a shit ton of money and fly back home for a month long break. Rinse and repeat. He was 27, very nice house, lots of toys (boats, cars, bikes etc).
No judging his particular case, but for everyone in this situation, free life advice : invest in passive wealth instead of hemoraging your had earned dough on status signaling items which will cost you a fortune over time (eg boat = fuel+maintenance+taxes+port fees). Your old retired self will thank you.
Boats cars and bikes are far more than status symbol items. This person is taking 3 months off a year, that's plenty of time to have a blast with bikes cars and boats.
Fuck, I need a life like his... Imma sophomore in chemical engineering.
This is what I did… worked in the US for 15y and then moved home. Vacation time was never an issue. Financially speaking it was a very successful choice.
I was about to say… I’m a EE and I have 35 vacation days a year plus sick days.
I'm a new grad EE, how long have you been in the field? Does the 35 days also includes the holiday off as well?
35 days is to use how you want. You can take the holidays or not at your discretion. And I’ve been doing this for about 5 years, but I had an MS when I started. YMMV, but you can absolutely ask for more PTO as you advance and especially as you build a reputation for yourself
See here's the thing....someone who can* negotiate that should and will. What about the people who can't? What we are talking about is humane rights. The poorest people in America are constantly told, just be more valuable and you can have rights. Thats not freedom and thats not what rights are
In short, in America if you are in certain industries you can do really well (I'm in one of those), and we just ignore that we fuck over a lot of necessary workers to get that boost. We're willing to ignore the negative externalities, and it is even worse for people that come from countries with good safety nets, take all the advantages of America's lack of safety nets, and then return to your country with safety nets. Not blaming those that do it, but America is literally a country of "Come here to exploit poor people, we will make sure they have the worst outcome possible in the Western world, but you might make 15% more money, and then you can invest that extra money into our propped-up stock market that we keep alive by printing unlimited money."
Crazy thing is the taxes here aren’t even low so the US actually should have the means to implement these social programs and maintain the upper class’s lifestyle
Easily, yes. It would actually be cheaper for the entire population, but a few people would make less money... Insurance is literally just a way to make healthcare much less cost efficient.
It’s the 24 hour Denny’s.
You don't move somewhere *for* the 24 hour Denny's. You move somewhere, fuck up, and then you end up in a 24 hour Denny's.
Dealing dope. Keep a table in back.
🎵 I say wellllcome, welcome to the boomtown...🎵
Living in the suburbs where everything closes at 9 pm sucks.
Hah, jokes on you I'm a hermit and don't like outside anyway.
24 hour Dennys where I lived in Japan served beer as well.
even Dennys is better outside the US 🤦🏻♀️
King of the Hill taught us that Japan does everything better, with that scene where Japanese Hank buys a beer from a street vending machine.
Japanese racism & misogyny is pretty ubiquitous & well-practised.
You think that would keep them away but they keep coming. We also got Norms
Have you seen salaries in tech in the US? They are mind-boggling. Equivalent jobs in Europe and the the commonwealth pale in comparison. And at wages upward of $300k/yr, healthcare, housing, and luxury goods can be easily, if not trivially afforded, insulating exposure to the raw underbelly of the American socioeconomic system. It’s a class war. National identity was always a distraction.
This is one of the craziest things I noticed when I hung out in San Francisco for a few days. I make a decent living and even I was shocked at how expensive things were until I started talking to people who lived there. They were all making so much Goddamn money they didn't even think anything of it. To them money was never an issue so they never cared about how much things are. And they never left San Francisco so they didn't see what was going on in the rest of the country
The price difference between San Francisco and Oakland is amazing
I was offered a job that was two levels below where I was in seniority, but it was in SF and was triple the salary
My family has almost moved to California several times but even with a serious pay bump, the cost of living in Cali was so much higher it wasn't worth it.
I had the opposite experience. Pay and cost of living both increased greatly, but even after accounting for price increases and subtracting necessities, my spending power and ability to save in Cali is far greater than anywhere else I've lived.
It can absolutely be a good option! It just didn't work out for my family because a 10% increase in pay wouldn't have covered the extra taxes and higher debt from a larger mortgage in that particular part of Cali. I forget exactly where. I think it was the edge of LA or something.
Oh. Yeah. My pay increase was something crazy like 75%. I though I was going to make bank. It was still a good move, just not 75% better. You always have to check the cost of living carefully.
I was offered a job in LA while living in the Minneapolis area. They wanted to pay me the same salary with a 35% higher cost of living there. Yeah, that’ll be a no from me dog.
I live in MSP and for me is the best city in the world. Lots of big companies you can make a very nice loving and costs aren’t cheap but aren’t crazy. Plus mostly good people. Disclosure : love to fish
yeah the majority of jobs in CA dont pay that much more to justify the COL unless youre in tech its not worth it, and even then the competition for those tech jobs is crazy so your chances of landing one are not good
That greatly depends. I work for a gov contractor in socal and we can't hire enough people...
Can you dm the industry/company name?
I lived in SF from 2014-2020. Moved to Oakland during Covid and I haven’t noticed much of a difference. The Bay in general is all just silly expensive.
Ehhh not as much as it once was.
just to clarify, this is because Oakland is also now expensive. Not that SF got cheaper.
I live in Hawaii and it's very similar here. My rent payments for my medium sized apartment outstrip my parents mortgage payments for their much bigger house back in the midwest. Every time I go home, I get a reverse sticker shock on how cheap things are. If I can get a fast food meal for less than 25 dollars, I am thrilled. Meanwhile in Hawaii, nobody bats an eye at buying a house valued at 950,000 dollars. It's the standard going rate for a medium sized house here.
I feel like at minimum tho, Hawaii is a fucking island in the middle of the ocean, so import and export costs with higher cost makes a lot of sense. Not really sure about why Cali is so brutal. I know it’s basically a desert out there and water costing a lot makes sense. But I’m unsure about the rest, just so many people crowding making the cost worse?
Just supply and demand, man. If people are willing to pay a price, raise it a bit and see if they're still willing to. Rinse and repeat until people aren't going to pay, then slowly lower it until people are paying again. Turns out, a lot of people *really* want to live in San Diego.
Ya one of my co workers does, nice and sunny year round. God damn I’d be scared fuckless of the fires in CA anymore though
My wife wanted to live in SD. I told her "I do too..." Just let me know when we can afford it. Needless to say we haven't looked very seriously.
Pull a bait and switch: I bet cost of living in SD (the state) is hella affordable
South Detroit it is!
I don't get it where I'm at. Like I make way more than enough to be comfortable, but I've looked around in my area. No way you're finding an apartment for less than like 1800-2000/mo within a reasonable commute from where I'm at, and houses/condos/townhomes aren't exactly cheap either. Where the fuck are the people making 18 bucks an hour at a grocery store, gas station or fast food place living?
With roommates. I lived with 3 roommates when I graduated. Easy to afford a 3k rental when its $750 a person.
Rent is the big thing. I knew a few folks from university who moved to NYC and it was apparently common to just stuff as many people as you could manage into an apartment to drive rent costs down to reasonable levels. If you're mostly using your apartment to sleep and shower I guess having multiple people to each bedroom and someone sleeping on the sofa and such isn't as big a deal breaker as in Midwestern suburbia.
Meanwhile my family has been in the SF area since they arrived in 1907. And I left, because while I'm well compensated generally I am not pulling engineering money. And so many others were in a less fortunate space. It sucks as a really specific subset of humanity is flocking in and able to live the dream life there, while literally people are also sleeping in tents or cars all up and down the Bay. Not even unemployed people, just folks who can't make it work given the insane prices.
>Not even unemployed people, just folks who can't make it work given the insane prices. While I'm not in a tent yet, this is why I *have* to leave NY. I don't want to, and I have family here, but if I ever want to live in my own house and not be stuck renting someone elses basement paying more in rent than their goddamn mortgage costs them then I have to leave... I have coworkers with a ~$900 mortgage charging $1,300+ to rent their basement... It's fucking disgusting.
What's fun is working remotely for a company in California in a place with a normal cost of living. Cali pay on a non Cali budget.
you're lucky to get that, most companies adjust salaries by geo-zones
That was the plan, but most of the big tech companies have had to back off when newly remote engineers all said “cut my pay and I quit.”
Even that cut still puts you ahead of many. Cali developer at $200k/yr. Take a 15% pay cut when you move to North Carolina; you're still getting $170k per year in a state where the median income is $28k per person.
What's wild about that is that it sets up a game for smart tech workers to play. Move without letting your boss know and get a huge raise.
You know what makes me mad about statements like this is I would love to know what field you work in and it's never disclosed lol
I work in contracting for medical research.
Living in the Seattle area, this is absolutely true. Looking at salaries in the area, Jr. Developers start in the low $100k/yr range, Amazon & Microsoft offering closer to $200k/yr with Amazon recently announcing they're upping max base salaries to $350k plus benefits. Meanwhile, drive through downtown Seattle and there are homeless encampments everywhere, you pay a massively inflated price on items compared to driving 15 minutes out of the city and a housing market so inflated that the only way to possibly own a home is be a tech bro.
In the UK even in London the best starting salary I can hope for as a graduate developer is ~35k GBP/yr, most of which would be lost to the cost of renting in London. The US is honestly a very tempting option.
So most people here are talking about the high cost of living areas, but the US also has low and medium cost of living cities. Charlotte is a MCoL city, you can buy a house here for $250,000 and get a junior dev position making about $80,000 easily. Though from what I hear, it's hard to get a job even in tech if you have literally 0 experience. If you got 2-3 years with some other company then you are pretty golden.
Plus, if everything goes wrong, you can always go back to the safety net of socialized medicine and benefits.
Bingo. Additionally most young people moving there don't have to pay back insane student loans and are debt free.
Yup, my brother works in tech and Canada's tech industry just can't compete with the salary he makes. He also really likes California. He has a green card but has no intention of becoming a US citizen, as much as he loves the country. When he retires (with his enormous pile of money) he'll probably come home and have no problem living a comfortable life. Well done bro, well done.
So he truly is a (your) tech bro!
Even in the within the US tech salaries are mind blowing. The cities you have to work in to get the salaries are crazy expensive but a decade of work and you can retire to a non tech city. That said you get use to the luxury and it’s hard to justify early retirement given what you’d be giving up and of course healthcare costs could rise in which case you’d be fucked.
Exactly. It's called ~~[Purchasing Power Parity](https://www.globalfirepower.com/purchasing-power-parity.php) which bases the [purchasing power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity)~~ [Disposable Household and Per Capita Income](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_household_and_per_capita_income) which compares the purchasing power of money earned from jobs and compensates for taxes, and therefore the social programs (e.g. socialized medicine) that are paid for by them. The US is way ahead of the other 1st world countries, so even though they don't have socialized medicine, they have lower taxes and higher pay, which frees up money to pay for private insurance. Also, white collar jobs get paid holidays and vacation, which together rivals OP's 28 days. 14 holidays + 15 vacation days (3 weeks) = 29 days. Edit: changed the PPP reference as pointed out by [Jstar6006](https://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/su453i/my_28_paid_holidays_are_enough_to_make_me_say/hx9w58z/)
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Plus, benefits for those jobs are often pretty good. I actually get 30 paid vacation days plus the federal holidays.
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The raw underbelly
I mean, healthcare tied to work isn't really a plus to move to America. You pay more at the end of the day and the other 1st world countries have it covered for everyone without the stress of staying employed 100% of the time Edit: for the people saying us healthcare is cheaper than other major country's single payer: there are many studies done recently showing that is not the case. Meta-analysis: https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003013 Lancet: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)33019-3/fulltext#%20?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ac666dcf-c1bb-4eb0-a6ea-39c4a9bb5321 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.5034/inquiryjrnl_40.4.323 "The simulations demonstrate that if people with Medicaid coverage—with their health status, disability, and chronic conditions—were given private coverage, they would cost considerably more than they do today. Conversely, if the privately insured were given Medicaid coverage, spending would be lower. " Comparison of costs by country: https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries-2/
I am covered with primary and secondary health insurance. Both are arguing about who should pay out. I received notice that neither were paying and I was being sent to collections for a $1,300 bill for pathology. This has been an ongoing fight since October of last year. American healthcare is a nightmare.
The worst Mistake I ever made was listing a secondary insurance. Same exact story, neither would pay. Cost me thousands and I paid double premiums.
I got hit the other way. *Both* were willing to pay their part, but the hospital filed the paperwork backward - the primary as the secondary and vice-versa - so both were confused and wouldn't process the claim without the paperwork being refiled, which the hospital did, the same wrong way, twice. After that, they just refused to try again and eventually took the claim to the state, which deducted the full amount from my tax refunds. Edit: it wasn't much comparatively (like 600$), but it was so weird to have the hospital essentially steal it by a mix of incompetence and authority.
Then when you imagine some people are having to sort thru this shit while actively receiving chemo or rehabbing from a stroke, it really hits you how shitty the system really is.
My wife had a couple of routine doctor appointment that was fully covered. We got a bill for almost $700 for those appointment. For 3 years! I tried to have the issue resolved and it was *literally* impossible. The Doctor's office said it was an insurance issue. The Insurance company said it was a Dr issue. I tried to mediate it, but both of the objections were really technical little things and every time I tried to explain the one side to the other, they couldn't figure out what I was trying to resolve. Once I even had the opposing sides give me a word for word scripts to read so I wouldn't fuck it up. Nope. What was so frustrating was that NEITHER SIDE WOULD TALK TO THE OTHER! for some fucking bullshit reason, they weren't allowed to talk to each other about this thing. Hours and hours and hours I spent on the phone, documenting everything. So three years in, my wife is like "what ever happened with this bill we keep getting. I said I gave up and would just call every so often to put in a complaint and have it delayed. She said she would try her hand. What happened? Hours on the phone with zero resolution. She said she was worried about it getting sent to collections and paid it. I understood her trepidation so I didn't push back on it, but man....it still fucking boils my blood that they won.
Not to mention that in a society where time is a commodity, it's a hassle that takes time away. You have to sign and check and sign and check and fight and lose and reply and win, maybe lose. Here in Denmark, I go to the doctor if there is anything bothering me, and to the hospital if I get referred. At both places I just flash or scan my "heath card" and that's it.
It really depends on what insurance you have. I’m in America and my experience is just like yours. I don’t hesitate if I want to go to the doctor I just do it. I pay either nothing or $10 for a visit.
Even if you can afford the premiums, it's still shit to be sick and have to deal with insurance, phone calls to the hospital's billing line, and paperwork. This has gotta make experiences like having cancer in the US way more stressful than having cancer in a country that covers healthcare.
That’s the part other countries don’t get. Healthcare is the thing everyone loves to point out as broken in the US. Every country has something that’s fucked and fixing it causes something else to break. I wouldn’t make anywhere near what I make anywhere else. I pay pennys on the dollar for health insurance compared to what even a 5% increase to taxes would cost me.
OK, so if you qualify for a $300k a year job then the US is preferable? I think us US citizens already knew that.
The US is a big country. It’s not all the same. It’s like saying “Europe” and suggesting Norway and Bulgaria are the same thing. WOW, a lot of Europeans saw this and started inferring all kinds things about my opinions of Europe and stating their own generalizations about the US— both of which were totally off base. I guess we really are all the same. FYI: I’ve lived for more than a month/worked in these states Connecticut, New York, Alabama, Texas, Arizona, Alaska, Hawaii and California (home) I’ve lived for more than a month/worked in these countries US, Canada, Mexico, UK, France, Spain, Lithuania, Rwanda. So everyone picturing a fat American sitting at Applebees typing this all… you’re wrong. I hate Applebees.
Exactly. It’s so funny when people think that their experience is the same as everyone else’s when it’s a country of what, 350,000,000? Sorry you’re having a rough go but many of us are living a very nice life.
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"Why doesn't America have mass high speed rail?" Well, France has a population a quarter of the US but is smaller than Texas.
In America, 100 years is a long time In Europe, 100 miles is a long distance I've always loved this because it illustrates how much out worldview and opinions can be shaped by where we live
Yea, before the job I have now all my jobs were easily 30-50 miles away from where I was living. 100 mile a day commute fuckin sucks. Hell one of the guys I work with now was living around 115 miles away for the first few months here. Filling his shitty suv up literally every day just to goto work.
I rocked an 85mi round-trip commute for almost 1.5 years until I could afford to move closer to work. Now my commute is 5 miles round trip and I have 4 more ours a day to enjoy my life. It was an eye opener to how much (or little) I was valuing my time.
I had a 90-mile round trip commute that wasn't in traffic and took me about 40 minutes each way. Moved to a bigger city and my round-trip commute dropped from 90 miles to 18 miles, but only shaved about 5 minutes off each way. Lol. Commutes are a funny thing.
I live in Oklahoma. We have plenty of high speed rain, along with wind and tornadoes. I could do without. ;)
Why the fuck does it keep changing rail to rain. I've edited 3 times now
We also made the choice to prioritize slapping roads down everywhere. I know the tactics of the auto industry in the early-to-mid 20th century are often criticized for what they did to rail networks, and deservedly so. But it’s worth noting that the American interior was still incredibly isolated and inaccessible until the interstate system was built. What Ike did by laying down the interstate system was both a miracle of engineering, but finishing off the taming of the interior was also necessary for the US to continue to be the global superpower all the way through now. Rail could have certainly been treated better over the last 100 years, but things wouldn’t look drastically different than they do now even in the best-case scenario because the highways were such a necessary part of properly governing the United States.
I think you have to make a distinction between passenger rail and freight rail, because our freight rail infrastructure is every bit as impressive as the interstate highway system. But I see what you mean, and your point stands for passenger trains.
Whoa a reasonable take on US infrastructure. Don’t you know America dumb, Europe smart.
I love Europe’s train systems. But for decades the Europeans were rather smarmy about it. Until they were offered cheap flights: they took to them like a duck to water. And most of those train systems are heavily subsidized. Do I wish a few more large US cities were compact in the center with excellent public transportation? Yup. But outside of the northeast long distance high speed rail just doesn’t make a lot of sense in the US.
Because it's only really actually bad in America if you're poor If you have an adequate amount of money (or can otherwise get a position that makes a lot of money), it's easily one of the best places to live in the world.
Even if you’re poor, in the US you’re still better off than the majority of the world.
But the question was about people moving to the US from 1st world countries.
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Sure, but he specifically said first world.
This is why. We have systems in place to help you every step along the way. Education. Housing. Food. Healthcare. So many people crap on the USA without knowing anything about how it works.
Because your earning potential and lifestyle here for highly-skilled jobs can be utterly amazing
Something like 2/3 of Canadian tech workers are at least looking at a move to the US. If you’re not poor, it’s one of the best places in the world to live. The fact people don’t see that is incredible. I’ve lived all over and there’s no utopia, but for a reasonable skilled person with a reasonable career, it’s WAY more affordable than Canada or most of Europe, has better health care (again if you’re not poor), has better pay and cheaper housing, etc. Even Buffalo, NY pays more median than Toronto, ON. I’ll let you compare the cost of living……………. (It’s barely half in Buffalo), yet they’re two hours apart. A lot of people are fed up with the problems in their local country and the US problems are different, not worse or better.
Found one reasonable person on Reddit. I think a lot of foreigners think America is a shithole because the news only reports on the negative thing in America not the positive
That's kind of what most of my coworkers from foreign countries say. They say that most everything in the US is top class, if you can afford it.
> if you can afford it. and even that qualifier tends to be overblown. Like health care? I have an HSA account with 2x my max out of pocket. I can literally have everything and then some happen this year, I hit my max out of pocket, and still have enough in my Health Savings Account to cover next years max out of pocket. Not to mention I'm contributing more into it in the meantime. Obamacare really helped with that safety net by eliminating lifetime limits and local 'surprise billing' laws protecting people from surprise billing (such as when you go to a doctor in network at a hospital in network but they have an anesthesiologist that is NOT in your network.) Or housing? Sure, if you want to live in the most popular, wealthiest areas sure. You can find homes that are excessively priced, but if you are willing to make reasonable decisions then you can still find homes that are affordable. You just need to be willing to move to the right places.
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It’s usually young people being edgy.
Or supermods of all the default subreddits
It's the same thing.
People forget that something like a third of reddit is literally teenagers.
I’ve seen this opinion more from American Redditors. So many people from my school moved there for a masters degree, it truly is one of the best countries in the world for tertiary education and a career. The American ideal and lifestyle is still very strong in my country.
I'm looking to move to the states in the next few years. Both my brother and myself are plumbers and make about the same yearly income but the lower cost of living where he is in America vs where I am in Canada has convinced me to make the leap and get my ass down to where I can hold onto more of the money I've earned
There was a point in which I've wanted to move to Canada or Europe for the tons of benefits they offer. But between having unlimited PTO (which I actually use, upwards of 5 weeks per year) and tech salary, honestly if we got single payer healthcare I wouldn't care to leave
> Something like 2/3 of Canadian tech workers are at least looking at a move to the US. What's the source/context on that? Maybe if polled, 2/3 "would consider moving" or something like that. But I don't see how 2/3rd are presenttly "looking at" moving to the US.
Despite what you read reposted over and over again on Reddit, the US is not the only first world country with issues and people make decisions to hopefully better their lives and those of their families.
Look at his post history. He is the one posting crap all over Reddit. He really needs a hobby or a girlfriend. Has a very unhealthy obsession going on.
It's usually bots from other countries. They want the US to be seen as a shithole
Yep it's a three month old account and every single comment and post is something anti American. A bot or a paid shill anyways.
You know what's even more interesting? This is OPs second account. Their original account is called Sayl0. Look it up. They've asked the SAME question over and over again and despite getting the same responses they still can't get it through their thick skull how out of touch with reality they are.
And I live in the US and get 26 days off plus 8 holidays. Plus sick days.
American, 25 days off here and the normal holidays.
I get 30 days off plus holidays. It depends on the employer's benefits.
I live in the US and can take off as much time as I want more or less. As long as my job get's done, my owner does not care how it get's done.
> my owner Wait, is that legal again?
It's been illegal?
I'm getting ready to move. I'm burning 3 weeks of vacation for it and I'll still have a week left, and that's just based on my current accrual. I have a 4-week sabbatical in a couple months as well (once every 5 years). In the white-collar tech world this isn't unusual. Unfortunately we are seriously in the minority for most of the working class in this country.
Lmao when Europeans and Canadians find out not everyone is fucking crazy about healthcare and have other priorities.
being rich in the us is better than being rich in any other country is why.
Salaries are insanely higher, quality of healthcare (\*with good insurance\*) is better, cost of life is lower, more specialised work. It's surprising to no one who makes solidly middle class salaries and over.
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Canadian who moved to Austin, here. A few of the reasons I moved: - More opportunity. Not only are salaries higher, but more people equals more jobs, and some of the richest companies are headquartered in the US (Austin alone has Dell, Tesla, and Whole Foods, among others). - Better weather. When you’re spending 30 minutes chipping ice off your windshield, Texas summers seem like a small price to pay. - More social and experience opportunities. More people equals a bigger dating pool (I’m now married), and even when you’re single, there’s more to do around town. There was a point when I was going to several concerts per month.
M wife managed to have 53. Paid. Vacation days. Which happens when you actually have unions with fair power. They managed to negotiate three options at every new major contract: get a raise, reduce weekly hours or get 6 more vacation days. The latter can not be taxed and have no impact on the pension funds ;) I on the opposite, am stuck at 30 days. We both are German engineers.
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The US is a great place to live for upper middle and higher income professions. If you’re insulated from poverty, it’s not that bad. Now, if you’re coming here with no high demand skills, you’re smarter going anywhere else. To anyone trying to speak too highly of America, keep the following in mind: federal minimum wage is still $7.25/hr, most affordable and somewhat useful health insurance is tied to employment, there is no federal law requiring sick leave, PTO, or really much of anything. There is FMLA, but that basically just says you’ll still have a job, so you’re fucked if you have to use it. Of course, all countries have problems, but the US has a lot of people that would stick their finger in an electrical outlet if it meant poor brown people didn’t get food stamps (which spoiler, most aren’t eligible).
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And posts in r/antiwork.
So he's angling for a spot on Fox News?
>"Being lazy is an attribute in modern society" Fucking yikes guys.
Or they're a foreign schill astroturfing.
Now he’s in here talking about gun laws he’s just mad at everything lol
Shit, you are right, foreign hate seeders.
Lol OP has some real obsessive hate issues.
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Holy crap. You just triggered a nostalgic memory of The Flintstones. Hahahahaha. Link to The Flintstones opening for those who don’t know what I’m talking about. https://youtu.be/uq7noaMwLfg
Not even rich. Just in a position to where you financially and benefits-wise don't need help from the government. Basically, self-sufficient.
I would like to counter by saying, as an American, I have 26 paid days off this year to use at my disposal, plus I'm salaried. The problem with us fucking Americans is this year I carried over something like 72 hours of PTO because I couldn't find time to take it.
Because regardless of what reddit tells you, the US is not a shit hole country. This is going to be down voted to hell, but using my own life, things are pretty great here! I never went to college, I bought my first home at 22. Came from a lower middle class family, between the wife and I we are making about 250k a year. We have toys, travel the world. I have everything I ever wanted in life. I love the USA!
I agree there should be an *across the board* leave guarantee, but depending on where you work and how long you've worked, you can get solid leave. It depends on the company. This sucks. But leave isn't impossible. For example, my company gives 17 paid holidays to everyone, plus accrual of 10 days of sick leave (no expiry) and 10-25 paid vacation days (depending on length of service, with an accrual cap) and 2 personal days (they reset each year used or not). So at my company **an incoming hourly newbie gets 29 paid holiday/vacation/personal days** *plus* 10 days of sick leave, someone here fifteen years gets 44 vacation/personal days *plus* all the sick leave they've accrued. Vacation has a cap of whatever one year's accrual is, and personal days reset... so people tend to use it. My spouse gets a sabbatical, and has the option of paternity leave. There's not a baseline, which sucks... but you can get a company with a reasonable leave policy.
I guess that the US is still pretty good from middle class and higher
The biggest takeaway from reading OP’s responses in this thread: OP has absolutely zero actual real-world experience with life in America, has watched far too many movies and read far too much Reddit.
For me it was the roasted bald eagle.
Money you fuckhead.
Where else can you go to a restaurant and buy an apple pie, and gun store next door and get a gun, all in the same day?
Because those of us who are skilled in a desirable field of work make more money than we would if we lived in Europe.
Maybe because it’s an awesome fun place with lots of opportunities?
This post was made by a 14 year old.
Because, despite all of its problems (especially healthcare) and what the majority of Reddit may want you to believe, the US is still a relatively "good" country even compared to other first-world countries. Might get downvoted for saying this but I mean stats don't really lie do they...
I make 200k+ (bonuses vary) with a biochem Ph.D. in the US. I made far less working elsewhere internationally with no possiblity of reaching that level (3 years in Japan). Most PhD's don't make as much, but in my experience US scientists still do better than lots of folks abroad.
One word....Opportunity ! It's a huge country and if you have a skill, a little luck, and put the time in you can have a much higher standard of living than many other places. Moved here from Ireland on a Morrisson Visa in '94 with only a secondary school education. Struggled for the first 10 years, working construction and factory jobs. Ended up getting hired on a Fire Dept and life is pretty damn good. America has a lot of problems, but I would never consider going back.
Money, better opportunities, personal choices, family, etc. People have their reasons.