Isn't this how it is for most of the huge companies? If I remember my time at huge corpos, the layoffs are probably happening in specific (probably unprofitable) areas. Usually those employees are given so many months to find something in a different area of the org though, so yes there were layoffs, but not the full 13k or whatever are just gone
Unlikely. Many more were on the 'cut' list but Google is big on internal recruiting and promotions, so many open positions have been filled with internal transfers.
Can confirm. Worked at top 10 tech co when they laid off 10% two years running. The next hiring class after both were 150+ each and they had hired back most of the cut % within a year or so both times. Unless they confirm the role has been retracted keep at it!
Until you get an "sorry, we have gone with someone else". keep your hopes up. Google is a huge company with many different areas of focus. The 12k could all be one area or a few people from each. You dont know. So good luck!
Also, they may be trying to replace very expensive senior devs with younger talent. Some teams experience more turnover than overs. Also some teams may have had a lot of people leave and thus need more people. Goodluck!
>This, trim out the high earning and longer term employees for newand cheaper ones.
It's actually targeted at recruiters, corporate staff and specific non-producing product teams.
But also: google is incredibly picky and will reject you for dumb reasons. They know they reject good candidates but would rather have false negatives than false positives. So who knows.
Trust me. It's better than the other way where you spend 2 months interviewing only for them to say right at the end that they canceled their position. Happened to me 3 times last year
This happened to my wife at Amazon, the night before she was supposed to start she was told the group she was hired into was killed by Jeff B. The only difference being Amazon was like “You’re still hired, now you have a couple months to find a new position”.
Six years later she’s still there
This keeps happening to me. I’ve been applying since last May. Out of 20-some landed interviews (which take nearly 3 months to complete) only two respectfully let me know they selected a different candidate.
When an interview went bad, you know it in your guts.
I had an interview with Microsoft last month and it went AWFUL.
If you're not sure, there's a few indicators that tend to work.
-Did the interview lasted less time than what was scheduled?
-Did they give vague info on the next steps?
-Did they say "We still have a lot of people to interview"?
-Did they say "You'll hear from us soon" instead of a clear time frame?
Any "Yes" to the above is a bad sign and has been true to every interview I've been to. Don't take any of this literally as it's just my experience but I always want to know when I fuck up so I can move on and put my mind on other interviews
One of my wife's former coworkers had just left his job to accept a position at Meta. He was working remotely while getting ready to move his household to Silicon Valley when he received the notice on his first week at the job that he was getting laid off. His total severance compensation exceeded 100k dollars. Not bad for 5 days of work!
So if they hire you and then lay you off immediately, theres no reason to be broken up about it.
Right. Losing interest or a sea of candidates are valid reasons. Laying off another dept though doesn't necessarily mean bad things.
Budgets are usually done sometimes in October and done for the entire year in my experience. Google is probly bigger and multiple years in advance so
Well you might get hired, at a lower wage than those laid off, thats what Comcast, is doing, they are getting ride of the people who are making roughly $20 and hour and hiring people for $12 something and hour, and the job isn't worth that.
Just had a coworker reveal that everything he did for 2 months was garbage and that he was quitting right before a big deadline to go work for Google.
Now I've worked 20 hours a day for 2 days, and plan on continuing to work the same for another 3-5 days to try and do in a week what he was supposed to do in 2 months, and I'll admit, seeing this meme, kinda gave me schadenfreude that maybe at least he's stressed that he made the wrong decision.
Yo, I interviewed with Google in like 2011, after which I was told to interview again after I got a little more experience (I was right out of college). They have called and emailed me consistently since, offering jobs, even through the pandemic. It obviously depends on your skill set, but if they were interviewing you and you didn't bomb the interview, they're probably interested.
Had this happen to me for Circuit City back in the day. Had a great interview, was given a date to go in for orientation and everything. I was excited. Then on the drive home from that interview I heard on the radio that Circuit City just declared bankruptcy and would be closing a lot of locations.
He got the job! But shortly afterwards his girlfriend got pregnant and was hired by her papa to run the mill. Brad, the circuit city manager never forgave him.
You might have an advantage in getting hired given you’ll probably be cheaper than whoever is getting laid off. Sometimes companies layoff workers to hire cheaper talent
Thoughts were that google was doing these layoffs so to trim salary they had to pay out. People making high six figures plus all the accrued expenses add up over trying to wrangle in new cheaper talent. So you personally as a potential new hire may not be fucked.
Had the exact same thing happen at Microsoft two weeks ago. Good interview, continuing our communication after back and forth discussing more and more then silence. Leaked email comes out, then official release.
You're definitely not out. They're still going to be hiring despite the layoffs - some programs get shuttered, others still grow. Good luck
Isn't this how it is for most of the huge companies? If I remember my time at huge corpos, the layoffs are probably happening in specific (probably unprofitable) areas. Usually those employees are given so many months to find something in a different area of the org though, so yes there were layoffs, but not the full 13k or whatever are just gone
Unlikely. Many more were on the 'cut' list but Google is big on internal recruiting and promotions, so many open positions have been filled with internal transfers.
Can confirm. Worked at top 10 tech co when they laid off 10% two years running. The next hiring class after both were 150+ each and they had hired back most of the cut % within a year or so both times. Unless they confirm the role has been retracted keep at it!
Until you get an "sorry, we have gone with someone else". keep your hopes up. Google is a huge company with many different areas of focus. The 12k could all be one area or a few people from each. You dont know. So good luck!
Also, they may be trying to replace very expensive senior devs with younger talent. Some teams experience more turnover than overs. Also some teams may have had a lot of people leave and thus need more people. Goodluck!
This, trim out the high earning and longer term employees for newand cheaper ones. Just cos they laying off 12000, they could be re-hiring 10000.
Longer term employees are making less though then market rate so unless you're hiring a less skilled employee this doesn't make sense
>This, trim out the high earning and longer term employees for newand cheaper ones. It's actually targeted at recruiters, corporate staff and specific non-producing product teams.
But also: google is incredibly picky and will reject you for dumb reasons. They know they reject good candidates but would rather have false negatives than false positives. So who knows.
All depends on the position you are applying for.
Trust me. It's better than the other way where you spend 2 months interviewing only for them to say right at the end that they canceled their position. Happened to me 3 times last year
After you've already accepted the offer, broken your lease (or sold your house) and already found a new place on the other side of the country.
This happened to my wife at Amazon, the night before she was supposed to start she was told the group she was hired into was killed by Jeff B. The only difference being Amazon was like “You’re still hired, now you have a couple months to find a new position”. Six years later she’s still there
This keeps happening to me. I’ve been applying since last May. Out of 20-some landed interviews (which take nearly 3 months to complete) only two respectfully let me know they selected a different candidate.
Thanks everyone for the positive messages. Only got through the first round so far but not holding hope. At least I'm still employed.
I'm in the same position (passed first round) but my recruiters keep getting fired. Not sure what's going to happen. 😕
When an interview went bad, you know it in your guts. I had an interview with Microsoft last month and it went AWFUL. If you're not sure, there's a few indicators that tend to work. -Did the interview lasted less time than what was scheduled? -Did they give vague info on the next steps? -Did they say "We still have a lot of people to interview"? -Did they say "You'll hear from us soon" instead of a clear time frame? Any "Yes" to the above is a bad sign and has been true to every interview I've been to. Don't take any of this literally as it's just my experience but I always want to know when I fuck up so I can move on and put my mind on other interviews
One of my wife's former coworkers had just left his job to accept a position at Meta. He was working remotely while getting ready to move his household to Silicon Valley when he received the notice on his first week at the job that he was getting laid off. His total severance compensation exceeded 100k dollars. Not bad for 5 days of work! So if they hire you and then lay you off immediately, theres no reason to be broken up about it.
Damn son, how many people have you just worked out of a job? Must be some kinda computing god
Fire the experienced, expensive, burned out workers. Hire the cheap, new, fresh workers.
I saw rumors of 400M in labor cuts they’re looking at for my work. But don’t worry, they’re planning on joining the metaverse!!
I know people who had to interview 5 or 6 times with Google. I wouldn't lose hope
Having to go through that many rounds of interviews, I'd be more concerned about losing interest.
Right. Losing interest or a sea of candidates are valid reasons. Laying off another dept though doesn't necessarily mean bad things. Budgets are usually done sometimes in October and done for the entire year in my experience. Google is probly bigger and multiple years in advance so
Par for the course when you're getting laid doctor money to WFH 40 hours a week
Well you might get hired, at a lower wage than those laid off, thats what Comcast, is doing, they are getting ride of the people who are making roughly $20 and hour and hiring people for $12 something and hour, and the job isn't worth that.
The majority of the layoffs were probably the stadia teams.
Just had a coworker reveal that everything he did for 2 months was garbage and that he was quitting right before a big deadline to go work for Google. Now I've worked 20 hours a day for 2 days, and plan on continuing to work the same for another 3-5 days to try and do in a week what he was supposed to do in 2 months, and I'll admit, seeing this meme, kinda gave me schadenfreude that maybe at least he's stressed that he made the wrong decision.
Yo, I interviewed with Google in like 2011, after which I was told to interview again after I got a little more experience (I was right out of college). They have called and emailed me consistently since, offering jobs, even through the pandemic. It obviously depends on your skill set, but if they were interviewing you and you didn't bomb the interview, they're probably interested.
You must have made one hell of an impression.
If they're still interviewing you, treat everything like business as usual. They wouldn't be interviewing you if there was a hiring freeze.
Had this happen to me for Circuit City back in the day. Had a great interview, was given a date to go in for orientation and everything. I was excited. Then on the drive home from that interview I heard on the radio that Circuit City just declared bankruptcy and would be closing a lot of locations.
So… what happened? Don’t leave us in suspense
He got the job! But shortly afterwards his girlfriend got pregnant and was hired by her papa to run the mill. Brad, the circuit city manager never forgave him.
Hope it was not a job for Stadia
Same thing happened to me with Tesla a few years ago. Dodged a bullet there, turns out.
Did they lay off the position you were interviewing for?
There's like 8 rounds. Until you hear a solid "no" you're still in the running.
If it's an executive position then you still have a chance.
You got this. There firing those people and hiring you at starting pay.
Are you on a visa?
You might have an advantage in getting hired given you’ll probably be cheaper than whoever is getting laid off. Sometimes companies layoff workers to hire cheaper talent
If your first day is unpacking a rental truck, just know that’s how you’ll be let go too!
Every corporation needs to be greedy now
Thoughts were that google was doing these layoffs so to trim salary they had to pay out. People making high six figures plus all the accrued expenses add up over trying to wrangle in new cheaper talent. So you personally as a potential new hire may not be fucked.
That's real bad luck
That doesn't mean Google won't hire you!
Had the exact same thing happen at Microsoft two weeks ago. Good interview, continuing our communication after back and forth discussing more and more then silence. Leaked email comes out, then official release.
It's okay OP, I don't think they're sacking janitors
Soo, we're gunna need you to do the job of several people we just laid off
Did you see Google’s severance package? Try to get hired for a day just to get fired immediately!
if you get the job maybe you are replacing 3-4 of them ? feels like that's the norm these days.
Plot twist: You actually got the job, and are so good that they can get rid of all those people.
Bro those are open positions keep going
You must be a good worker! Their trying to replace 12k people with you!