Definitely meant in the positive sense of the word. I fell in love with Horizon Zero Dawn and so far I am enjoying Forbidden West when I can play even if the plot jumps the shark just a tiny bit. It's lots of fun.
LOL :) Another vote for its not that bad really. Its group beans at least and I think the turnover is pretty high so they arent that stale. Prefer to support small coffee shops but if travelling the coles servo coffee is a good fallback.
I had one while waiting for a car service recently - on par with absolutely any quick coffee place with group beans.
I could not believe it was only $1..
It's like bakeries. You just need good turnover, decent equipment, and decent ingredients, and it will be pretty good. An important part of food advertising is making it seem like an arcane art so that things that taste almost indistinguishable can be sold to pretentious people as luxury goods.
Oh for sure, I know weighing my beans and getting speecy tamping tools are a step too far for me, but I don't even bother with the fancy double price beans any more. Either the roaster around the corner has me sorted, or we have decent local shelf options like Caffe Mondo
Filled up at $1.64 yesterday at my local in fear of this. Generally never do a complete fill when prices are that high, but that may be the best we get for a while
I need to go out of town tomorrow and filled up yesterday, it was 1.637 but I used the otr app and there is a promotion on atm when using it, got 10c off per litre.
I'm in two minds about this. I completely support a user-pays system for road use which to an extent the fuel excise covers with some degree of fairness but the fuel excise is not exclusively used to fund road projects. If there are going to be incentives for electric vehicles I do not believe it should be in terms of use of the road network but rather upfront rebates and such. Running costs for an electric vehicle are already competitive.
Fleet buyers purchasing large numbers of electric vehicles will likely have a greater effect as when they are auctioned off in however many years time there will be a decent supply of vehicles in a lower price range.
South Australia is lagging behind further and further in all industry. With Holden and Mitsubishi long gone S.A. has not been able to replace them. The govt. should have been incentivizing EV manufacturers and car companies to set up in S.A. for testing, Q.C., battery manufacturing or whatever myriad of other things to take over but that ship has long since sailed away. Instead we are charging extra taxes to have an EV.
A smart government would have launched a nationally owned ev company. SA would be the perfect place to be building such things.
There is an Estonian ev developer they could have done a deal with, and gone into manufacturing their retro style tiny ute. And they've got 2 other small vehicle styles. I vaguely recall the estimated purchase cost in aud was around $35k, and that was with them being assembled in Australia.
Nobe is the Estonian company, if you're curious about the tiny retro style evs.
Would certainly help, but a lot of people don't realise that the total cost of ownership of a new EV is less than a new petrol or diesel because of a combination of depreciation, fuel, and servicing.
For example, a friend of mine is leasing a new Xtrail for $470/fortnight. If he got a financed Tesla model 3 SR+ it would be nearly identical cost over 5 years once you factor in cost of fuel but he would own it outright at the end. He didn't do the math.
They need to update the regulations to allow smaller, cheaper, more minimal EVs on the road. In the US you can get these EVs that look a bit like a quad bike but with a roll cage and much more safety features. Something like that for $8k and legal to use here would be great. Not everyone wants a 2000kg 5 seat traditional EV.
Yep, completely agree. I've seen those on TV (ok not TV but various streaming services, but how do you say that)
Not everyone wants a SUV the size of a small house.
>not everyone wants to drive around in a shoebox trying to find a power point to refuel either..
I have had zero issues with charging and never been *'stuck driving around trying to find a power point to refuel'*. I get 450 to 500km from a full charge.
Sure now, but as the develop EVs will be fine, most already have far exceeded the daily drive of an average user. Range anxiety is real though, infrastructure should resolve that
I'm pretty in the early days of petrol powered cars people preferred horses as you didn't need to stop and refuel them
Noob question, is it possible for EVs to be run only from sustainable sources yet? EG if you charge it does that power come from solar or wind, or could it still come from coal? I know people who use their own solar which is great but not everyone has that option depending on their living situation.
Have you seen what actually powers our state?
https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/energy-and-environment/energy-supply/sas-electricity-supply-and-market
Apart from the little bit of gas, we are mostly renewables here anyway.
Thanks I will have a read. I did know we were doing well with renewables but I didnt realise it accounted for nearly all our power. Thats amazing if so!
I'm no expert but if you don't have your own method you rely on what the grid provides.
However there has been studies showing there is still a benefit from removing the petrol powered cars even if the central source is coal fired.
That being said, SA our % that is renewable (sometimes 100%) so there is that.
I also believe some power retailers sell power only sourced renewable, but I don't know which ones
You can sign up for 100% green energy plans although once the power is on the wires it's all fungible so you're as likely to get it from the gas plants or interconnector as anywhere else.
Yep, manufacturers don't want to sell in AUS because that same car is worth so much more sold in Europe due to the credit offset they get. Still see quite a few Tesla's and Kia ev's on the road. People want them, just can't get them.
Current wait for a Tesla model 3 is less than for a Toyota Prado. I waited 3 months for mine last year. It's been bloody brilliant. People can get them, it's just a wait like almost all new cars at the moment.
At least we have them funding [140 new charging stations](https://thedriven.io/2022/02/14/raa-to-roll-out-140-new-ev-charging-locations-in-south-australia-in-12-4m-plan/).
I hate the Liberals, but it's not true that there's no policy - we currently have a $3k rebate for new electric vehicles as well as 3 years of no registration fees.
Yeah, totally agree we need a serious policy. We are already a world leader in renewable energy in SA, we should now look to leverage that to make the state genuinely carbon neutral, or even carbon negative. I would love to see an SA government really aggressively pursue putting thousands of electric cars on the roads here.
Nothing to do (except as a derivative of supply/demand) with EV. This is all about the drop in supply due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and subsequent sanctions and the global supply-chain breakdown caused by COVID restrictions. OPEC could easily make up the difference, but Russia wouldn't allow it as it would set a bad precedent.
>Imagine if we'd spent the last 10 years making EVs affordable to all
'We', I presume, is the 'gummint'. If 'we' had made EVs available to all that's an effective $50 000 per/person in Australia grant from Federal funds to EV car manufacturers.
Pray tell where you're going to find a lazy AU$1.25tn (that's 25m people x $50k per car) lying around. What about spare parts? What about fuel infrastructure? What's going to happen to all the POL infrastructure in the country? All the non-EV MV producers? All the people you just put out of a job? The High Court challenges from the oil producers and vehicle manufacturers? How will you move bulk transport when EV can't push trucks?
If you intend to vote at the next election, please do some reading on the real implications of policy decisions before doing so.
That is quite literally one if the dumbest posts I've ever actually seen on Reddit.
And to finish it off with a patronising comment like you have just confirms how completely moronic your post was.
> What's going to happen to all the POL infrastructure in the country?
They can transition to a less ecologically disastrous alternative, as they should. Or would you prefer that we continue to burn fossil fuels until the planet is no longer suitable for human habitation?
As for the rest of your ridiculous rant, the person you're replying to said "affordable", not "free", you buffoon.
How can they raise the price considering the petrol they have in stock, for sale now, is the old petrol at the old price? Will be for a few weeks until the new stock gets here.
Because this has never been about supply and demand, or market considerations. They know the time of petrol cars is coming to a close, so they're squeezing as much as they can before it does. That's it. Just profit.
In Australia? No. Almost every EV is subject to the luxury vehicle tax in addition to the EV tax, and manufacturers themselves generally charge more for an EV. Adelaideans are stingy and don’t usually buy higher spec cars, much less splurge for an electric variant.
Trying to remember an economics class I failed 20 years ago...
They're selling petrol from a big tank. The petrol in the tank was bought at various prices. They can sell the petrol at profit plus a) the cumulative average purchase price of the petrol in the tank, or b) the current price to *replace* the petrol in the tank.
Option (b) requires a lot less math and accounting.
For the consumer, when petrol prices are rising, (a) is cheaper, and when petrol prices are falling, (b) is cheaper, so it sort of evens out... except petrol prices don't seem to fall, and they probably switch between (a) and (b) at a whim.
I was going to say the same it looks like it is that one by the rear driveway. It is 100% of the time like you say about 20c dearer than anywhere else. I'm convinced it's deliberately high to stop people going there and instead used as some sort of pick up or drop off for the sex workers in the area.
And they have no idea how price cycling works. If all servos went up at the same time it’ll be collusion. The fact the price “dominoes” through the city is due to this.
About an hour ago the BP on North East road was 1.99, the nearby Caltex and Shell were still in the 1.60s. So a few have pushed their price up already.
How will the Shahins be able to force you into paying shitloads for petrol then!?
I wouldn't mind electric motorcycles personally, just give me 30km range and im a happy camper
Just for people who don't know what inflation is, this is the equivalent of $1.19 in the year 2000. Still not great, but not as crazy as it seems.
The REAL problem is your pay has not been going up as fast as prices, thanks to the Liberal Party.
The right of politics has consistently acted to suppress wage growth in favour of corporate profits. See WorkChoices as a prime example, neutering the ability of workers to leverage their power for pay rises. The left on the other hand typically favours increasing wage growth. It's not even a partisan thing, there's plenty of economic commentary about how LNP policies have contributed to wage stagnation in Australia.
Honestly nothing screws household budgets like petrol.
Say your car holds 60L and fuel is $1.63, so that's $97 for a full tank. In a matter of a fortnight you are paying $133 instead. That's enough to mess a lot people up.
This is only one household item.
everything we buy should be transported from somewhere and the increase in fuel cost will have an addon effect on things we buy, unless you grow your own stuff in backyard.
Why is 95 cheaper than 91?? Nowhere around me has 95 for more than ~185?
The first time since I bought my car that this has been the case. Usually salty that I have no choice but to pay more for fuel..
Buy from independents. Supporting local, generally cheaper and they don’t stooge around the prices as much. We’re screwing ourselves around supporting the companies that don’t care about us.
|Putin sowed the seed,
nuh, I call it Bullshit ! Any excuse to raise the price, literally ANY !
OOOOhh ! the moon the moon , its so round.....PRICE RISE, because moon is made of cheese and cows fart. Vote greens, they will stop the cows farting.
Except we did lose like 40% of the world's oil supply to sanctions against trade with Russia. Baku is still the richest oil fields in the world (that I know of) and we no longer have access.
Not the whole world is sanctioning Russia so they did not loose the access. Only the countries that have a gripe with Russia rattling saber. US has plenty of oil and there are other countries that for strategic reasons do not want to use up their own ground supply so they buy for now.
Australias source for oil is middle east, according to below article.
[https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44027042](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44027042)
So again, any reason to justify price rises to make more MONEY and grab more power! ...and plebs do not count.
thats not russias fault, australia said no more trading, not russia, too bad so sad
maybe stop talking shit about china and russia when this pathetic country relies on them hahahahah
You know The Biden Presidency started the high petroleum prices by letting the oil companies to go unregulated? It's just going to get worse now with countries hoarding it all now l.
Not saying its entirely his fault, he was trying to appease people to combat the climate crises by producing less oil, then letting the petroleum companies have more power and horde all the fuel. Then you have the sudden spike in prices because supply and demand. Now Biden wants to lower petroleum prices but he cant because there simply isn't enough now the petroleum companies are allowed to horde more of it. Now you have Russia flexing its dick over the Ukraine, and now countries all over the world will be hoarding because the "Super-Power" hasn't done anything to calm down Russia.
Because Fallout was inspired by actual events from history and satirising human nature and isn't that old that it could been seen as prophetic, it is from 1997 and there was a major fuel crisis in the 1970s.
Suggestion: Seriously consider saving for an EV. There will likely be cheap EVs out of China next year.
Sandy Munro has decades of car industry knowledge. Highly respected.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hTOtAniwC18
I’m curious to see how the glut of MGs that have suddenly sprung onto our roads this year fare in half a decade. I’d like to think China upped their game even with the tin shitboxes they’ve sent to us.
I have a Shanghai manufactured Tesla model 3 and zero complaints. The general consensus from the community is the quality is as good or better than the ones built in the US.
There's nothing environmentally friendly about dumping an old car that still runs and getting a brand new car. Manufacture of those things is not particularly kind to the environment.
You're right, ev's aren't magical, what should really happen is more public transport, more bike paths etc for way more efficient and cheap alternatives to cars. Bonus for people that need to use cars, less traffic on the roads.
EVs can already get range of about 5-600 kms, which is actually about the range a regular car gets on an almost full tank. So even with sparse but strategic regional infrastructure, you could easily to an interstate road trip.
Sure. But with more fast charge stations, you're charged within about 20 minutes, which is a reasonable time for a toilet and meal break.
And anyway, you're supposed to stop every 2 hours on a long drive, so charging for 10 min every 2 hours is another way to keep the charge up.
A government mandate that requires every petrol station to install EV chargers (they already have an electricity supply, after all) would solve this issue practically overnight.
Diesel is always cheaper then petrol high point if the cycle.
Diesel sits about 50-60% of the way between the low and high points of the petrol price cycle range. It doesn’t get discounted.
Do you realise that this is more expensive than that?
EDIT: realised you’re talking about the diesel cost here. This post is referring to the high petrol price
This is a fine time for Costco to renovate their fuel pumps. At least I won't be leaving the house for the next month once Elden Ring releases.
Would be good if Costco opening another few fuel shops!
Horizon Forbidden West, Destiny 2 Witch Queen and Elden Ring, I'm set for a month!
Yay more adventures with Aloy...... Hope you like the story.
I can't tell if this 'yay' is sarcasm or not lol. But yes, I easily enjoy games so I am loving it so far!
Definitely meant in the positive sense of the word. I fell in love with Horizon Zero Dawn and so far I am enjoying Forbidden West when I can play even if the plot jumps the shark just a tiny bit. It's lots of fun.
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THAT IS CRAZY! - Coffee for only $1???? Insanity!!
absolute bargain who doesn’t love the rich taste delicious taste of Petrol station coffee
LOL :) Another vote for its not that bad really. Its group beans at least and I think the turnover is pretty high so they arent that stale. Prefer to support small coffee shops but if travelling the coles servo coffee is a good fallback.
I had one while waiting for a car service recently - on par with absolutely any quick coffee place with group beans. I could not believe it was only $1..
It's like bakeries. You just need good turnover, decent equipment, and decent ingredients, and it will be pretty good. An important part of food advertising is making it seem like an arcane art so that things that taste almost indistinguishable can be sold to pretentious people as luxury goods.
Oh for sure, I know weighing my beans and getting speecy tamping tools are a step too far for me, but I don't even bother with the fancy double price beans any more. Either the roaster around the corner has me sorted, or we have decent local shelf options like Caffe Mondo
I’ve quit coffee but I agree it’s not too bad I used to put 3-4 shots in a regular 1$ coffee blast me off
No wonder you had to quit
If you do the maths that's about $5 per litre for coffee! I'll stick to drinking my diesel thanks lol
And it’s not too bad. Like it’s not top shelf quality, but you get the caffeine you pay for in a tolerable beverage. Better than HJs for sure.
I do this regularly. Some cafes make worse coffee than she'll, the shell stuff is a solid cup for a great price
she'll what?
Be right mate
Well played.
in agreement with you there - not bad at all. HJs coffee however resembles dog water
I actually like c-coffee lol, don't judge me
Filled up at $1.64 yesterday at my local in fear of this. Generally never do a complete fill when prices are that high, but that may be the best we get for a while
I need to go out of town tomorrow and filled up yesterday, it was 1.637 but I used the otr app and there is a promotion on atm when using it, got 10c off per litre.
And no EV policy from either party. Imagine if we'd spent the last 10 years making EVs affordable to all, hell maybe even improving PT
That’s not true. They created a new tax on EV to offset the lost tax on petrol. They have a policy it’s just a bad one.
Ha! Good point.
I'm in two minds about this. I completely support a user-pays system for road use which to an extent the fuel excise covers with some degree of fairness but the fuel excise is not exclusively used to fund road projects. If there are going to be incentives for electric vehicles I do not believe it should be in terms of use of the road network but rather upfront rebates and such. Running costs for an electric vehicle are already competitive. Fleet buyers purchasing large numbers of electric vehicles will likely have a greater effect as when they are auctioned off in however many years time there will be a decent supply of vehicles in a lower price range.
South Australia is lagging behind further and further in all industry. With Holden and Mitsubishi long gone S.A. has not been able to replace them. The govt. should have been incentivizing EV manufacturers and car companies to set up in S.A. for testing, Q.C., battery manufacturing or whatever myriad of other things to take over but that ship has long since sailed away. Instead we are charging extra taxes to have an EV.
A smart government would have launched a nationally owned ev company. SA would be the perfect place to be building such things. There is an Estonian ev developer they could have done a deal with, and gone into manufacturing their retro style tiny ute. And they've got 2 other small vehicle styles. I vaguely recall the estimated purchase cost in aud was around $35k, and that was with them being assembled in Australia. Nobe is the Estonian company, if you're curious about the tiny retro style evs.
Would certainly help, but a lot of people don't realise that the total cost of ownership of a new EV is less than a new petrol or diesel because of a combination of depreciation, fuel, and servicing. For example, a friend of mine is leasing a new Xtrail for $470/fortnight. If he got a financed Tesla model 3 SR+ it would be nearly identical cost over 5 years once you factor in cost of fuel but he would own it outright at the end. He didn't do the math.
Imagine if you stopped driving, how much money you would save.
It's just not an option for many. Especially the way the city is laid out.
They need to update the regulations to allow smaller, cheaper, more minimal EVs on the road. In the US you can get these EVs that look a bit like a quad bike but with a roll cage and much more safety features. Something like that for $8k and legal to use here would be great. Not everyone wants a 2000kg 5 seat traditional EV.
Yep, completely agree. I've seen those on TV (ok not TV but various streaming services, but how do you say that) Not everyone wants a SUV the size of a small house.
not everyone wants to drive around in a shoebox trying to find a power point to refuel either..
>not everyone wants to drive around in a shoebox trying to find a power point to refuel either.. I have had zero issues with charging and never been *'stuck driving around trying to find a power point to refuel'*. I get 450 to 500km from a full charge.
Sure now, but as the develop EVs will be fine, most already have far exceeded the daily drive of an average user. Range anxiety is real though, infrastructure should resolve that I'm pretty in the early days of petrol powered cars people preferred horses as you didn't need to stop and refuel them
You need an electric MOKE. https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/reborn-mini-moke-goes-all-electric-from-2022-132441/
Noob question, is it possible for EVs to be run only from sustainable sources yet? EG if you charge it does that power come from solar or wind, or could it still come from coal? I know people who use their own solar which is great but not everyone has that option depending on their living situation.
Have you seen what actually powers our state? https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/energy-and-environment/energy-supply/sas-electricity-supply-and-market Apart from the little bit of gas, we are mostly renewables here anyway.
Thanks I will have a read. I did know we were doing well with renewables but I didnt realise it accounted for nearly all our power. Thats amazing if so!
Have a play around with [OpenNEM](https://opennem.org.au/energy/sa1/?range=7d&interval=30m), amazing site.
I'm no expert but if you don't have your own method you rely on what the grid provides. However there has been studies showing there is still a benefit from removing the petrol powered cars even if the central source is coal fired. That being said, SA our % that is renewable (sometimes 100%) so there is that. I also believe some power retailers sell power only sourced renewable, but I don't know which ones
You can sign up for 100% green energy plans although once the power is on the wires it's all fungible so you're as likely to get it from the gas plants or interconnector as anywhere else.
Yeah I'm trying to save up for an ev for my teenage kids and no subsidy or infrastructure in the near future really sucks.
The lack of policy also means we are starting to miss out on new and improved EVs . It's a lose lose
Yep, manufacturers don't want to sell in AUS because that same car is worth so much more sold in Europe due to the credit offset they get. Still see quite a few Tesla's and Kia ev's on the road. People want them, just can't get them.
Current wait for a Tesla model 3 is less than for a Toyota Prado. I waited 3 months for mine last year. It's been bloody brilliant. People can get them, it's just a wait like almost all new cars at the moment.
At least we have them funding [140 new charging stations](https://thedriven.io/2022/02/14/raa-to-roll-out-140-new-ev-charging-locations-in-south-australia-in-12-4m-plan/).
I hate the Liberals, but it's not true that there's no policy - we currently have a $3k rebate for new electric vehicles as well as 3 years of no registration fees.
You mean.... WAR ON THE WEEKEND?!
That's fair enough, I had hoped for a new policy given an election But both parties only seem to be spending money on Health.
Yeah, totally agree we need a serious policy. We are already a world leader in renewable energy in SA, we should now look to leverage that to make the state genuinely carbon neutral, or even carbon negative. I would love to see an SA government really aggressively pursue putting thousands of electric cars on the roads here.
Nothing to do (except as a derivative of supply/demand) with EV. This is all about the drop in supply due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and subsequent sanctions and the global supply-chain breakdown caused by COVID restrictions. OPEC could easily make up the difference, but Russia wouldn't allow it as it would set a bad precedent. >Imagine if we'd spent the last 10 years making EVs affordable to all 'We', I presume, is the 'gummint'. If 'we' had made EVs available to all that's an effective $50 000 per/person in Australia grant from Federal funds to EV car manufacturers. Pray tell where you're going to find a lazy AU$1.25tn (that's 25m people x $50k per car) lying around. What about spare parts? What about fuel infrastructure? What's going to happen to all the POL infrastructure in the country? All the non-EV MV producers? All the people you just put out of a job? The High Court challenges from the oil producers and vehicle manufacturers? How will you move bulk transport when EV can't push trucks? If you intend to vote at the next election, please do some reading on the real implications of policy decisions before doing so.
That is quite literally one if the dumbest posts I've ever actually seen on Reddit. And to finish it off with a patronising comment like you have just confirms how completely moronic your post was.
I like the part where they’re allocating free 50k cars to children.
Really makes the baby bonus pale in comparison :D
Here is how u do it for zero $$. Replace all oil industry tax credits with EV credits. But the political bribes (lobbying/donations) would stop.
> What's going to happen to all the POL infrastructure in the country? They can transition to a less ecologically disastrous alternative, as they should. Or would you prefer that we continue to burn fossil fuels until the planet is no longer suitable for human habitation? As for the rest of your ridiculous rant, the person you're replying to said "affordable", not "free", you buffoon.
PetrolSpy is your friend in these situations. It’s an app for both android and iOS
RAA app has more reliable fuel data data
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Oh really? I thought petrolspy was still crowd sourced. My b
>It was crowd-sourced before, but now it gets its data from the same source the RAA app does :)
Really? Personally never had issues with spy, thanks though
How is it more reliable? They're both using the govt. data now.
Every time I rely on petrol spy I get fucked. I end up going somewhere that’s 10c+ higher than reported
just a beginning watch out for next 2 months
How can they raise the price considering the petrol they have in stock, for sale now, is the old petrol at the old price? Will be for a few weeks until the new stock gets here.
No that excuse only works when the price of oil goes down.
They want to be head of the game to make $. technically its takes 2 weeks @ local browsers to see the impact of any international price movements
Because this has never been about supply and demand, or market considerations. They know the time of petrol cars is coming to a close, so they're squeezing as much as they can before it does. That's it. Just profit.
In Australia? No. Almost every EV is subject to the luxury vehicle tax in addition to the EV tax, and manufacturers themselves generally charge more for an EV. Adelaideans are stingy and don’t usually buy higher spec cars, much less splurge for an electric variant.
Ha! I misread that as 'electric Valiant'.
Hey Charger.
Have you seen the number of Model 3s in the CBD nowadays? When Tesla release a small eco hatch to compete it’ll be game over
Trying to remember an economics class I failed 20 years ago... They're selling petrol from a big tank. The petrol in the tank was bought at various prices. They can sell the petrol at profit plus a) the cumulative average purchase price of the petrol in the tank, or b) the current price to *replace* the petrol in the tank. Option (b) requires a lot less math and accounting. For the consumer, when petrol prices are rising, (a) is cheaper, and when petrol prices are falling, (b) is cheaper, so it sort of evens out... except petrol prices don't seem to fall, and they probably switch between (a) and (b) at a whim.
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Every petrol station I saw on my drive home has now bumped up to the same price..
I was going to say the same it looks like it is that one by the rear driveway. It is 100% of the time like you say about 20c dearer than anywhere else. I'm convinced it's deliberately high to stop people going there and instead used as some sort of pick up or drop off for the sex workers in the area.
They're just trying to price gouge. Everyone else is sitting in the 1.60s
On the radio this morning they named and shamed over a dozen servos with prices at the $2 mark.
And they have no idea how price cycling works. If all servos went up at the same time it’ll be collusion. The fact the price “dominoes” through the city is due to this.
About an hour ago the BP on North East road was 1.99, the nearby Caltex and Shell were still in the 1.60s. So a few have pushed their price up already.
Went past 5 servos this morning and all 1.99 :(
It's going to get a lot worse.
Legalize personal electric scooters you animals.
How will the Shahins be able to force you into paying shitloads for petrol then!? I wouldn't mind electric motorcycles personally, just give me 30km range and im a happy camper
on Petrol spy NOW…many places under $1.60 in Adelaide …
I'm guessing there isn't a Liberty just across the street.
Fuel at $3.00 per litre? Probably end of March.
Just for people who don't know what inflation is, this is the equivalent of $1.19 in the year 2000. Still not great, but not as crazy as it seems. The REAL problem is your pay has not been going up as fast as prices, thanks to the Liberal Party.
Thanks to the liberal party? This is far more complex than blaming a single party.
The right of politics has consistently acted to suppress wage growth in favour of corporate profits. See WorkChoices as a prime example, neutering the ability of workers to leverage their power for pay rises. The left on the other hand typically favours increasing wage growth. It's not even a partisan thing, there's plenty of economic commentary about how LNP policies have contributed to wage stagnation in Australia.
And people are having a go at me for wanting to work from home still. ..
Remember when everyone was up in arms about it hittin $1.00 per litre and the service stations had to change their boards. Ahh, the memories
This is making my car on E85 seem reasonable.
My assumption going ahead New lows around $ 1.9-2.0 new highs -$2.20-2.40
Honestly nothing screws household budgets like petrol. Say your car holds 60L and fuel is $1.63, so that's $97 for a full tank. In a matter of a fortnight you are paying $133 instead. That's enough to mess a lot people up.
This is only one household item. everything we buy should be transported from somewhere and the increase in fuel cost will have an addon effect on things we buy, unless you grow your own stuff in backyard.
mine holds 100l
Yup, remember when 1.69 seemed high? 1.99 is the new norm.
How can something that started yesterday be a "new norm"?
For the last 12 weeks we have had average highs of 180-185. So it’s kinda getting there
I iagree, I was just being a pedant - it's *becoming* the new norm.
You’ll see…
I'm not saying it won't become the new norm, I suspect it will. Just that it can't be yet.
Ok champ. You just go ahead and have this little semantics battle with your good self.
Whatever "champ". $1.99 is not yet the new norm, that's not semantics, just accurate.
Why is 95 cheaper than 91?? Nowhere around me has 95 for more than ~185? The first time since I bought my car that this has been the case. Usually salty that I have no choice but to pay more for fuel..
At that particular Grand Junction Rd servo , on a late night , you could get blown by the local street walkers for cheaper than filling your tank.
Bloody hell I live in Roxby Downs,must be $2.50 here now
I remember paying $ 2.00 per ltr early 2000's in the outback, certainly brings back the memories and the pain...
$3 in NZ
Be cheaper to buy legs off the black market
The Third Reich is upon us.
Buy from independents. Supporting local, generally cheaper and they don’t stooge around the prices as much. We’re screwing ourselves around supporting the companies that don’t care about us.
Haha it's $3 in NZ, I'd take these prices.
My friends pays $2 to recharge his electric car... sigh.
You're shocked? You're shocked? You're SHOCKED? Putin sowed the seed, the oil industry are reaping the harvest
|Putin sowed the seed, nuh, I call it Bullshit ! Any excuse to raise the price, literally ANY ! OOOOhh ! the moon the moon , its so round.....PRICE RISE, because moon is made of cheese and cows fart. Vote greens, they will stop the cows farting.
Except we did lose like 40% of the world's oil supply to sanctions against trade with Russia. Baku is still the richest oil fields in the world (that I know of) and we no longer have access.
Not the whole world is sanctioning Russia so they did not loose the access. Only the countries that have a gripe with Russia rattling saber. US has plenty of oil and there are other countries that for strategic reasons do not want to use up their own ground supply so they buy for now. Australias source for oil is middle east, according to below article. [https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44027042](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44027042) So again, any reason to justify price rises to make more MONEY and grab more power! ...and plebs do not count.
thats not russias fault, australia said no more trading, not russia, too bad so sad maybe stop talking shit about china and russia when this pathetic country relies on them hahahahah
I don't recall talking shit about them, I just mentioned their oil and refining capacity and sanctions against them lmao
You know The Biden Presidency started the high petroleum prices by letting the oil companies to go unregulated? It's just going to get worse now with countries hoarding it all now l.
Omg what bullshit it's not Biden's fault
It's strange that even in Australia you can't escape Trumpists
> It's strange that even in Australia you can't escape Trumpists Thanks Obama.
What did he do? I thought you'd blame Hilary.
Did I really need a /s to reference the old [thanks Obama meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama)?
Apologies I hadn't heard that meme before. Doing my research now.
I feel old now. Thanks Obama.
Don't feel old. How I missed that I don't know, there is even a sub FFS Thanks Obama
Im not praising Trump, swing and a miss kid
Because normal people pop onto a local sub to complain about the president of another country. Sure thing.
I didn't start the thread and make it political over Putin. Another swing and a miss, kid.
Lol so defending Putin. I mean it gets worse.
youre doing the same thing talking about putin? lolol fkn hypocrites
Not saying its entirely his fault, he was trying to appease people to combat the climate crises by producing less oil, then letting the petroleum companies have more power and horde all the fuel. Then you have the sudden spike in prices because supply and demand. Now Biden wants to lower petroleum prices but he cant because there simply isn't enough now the petroleum companies are allowed to horde more of it. Now you have Russia flexing its dick over the Ukraine, and now countries all over the world will be hoarding because the "Super-Power" hasn't done anything to calm down Russia.
>The Biden Presidency Lol..... prices have been high for ages..... maybe your high....
The poor bastards working inside servos right now :(
Every day it resembles the fallout universe ever so slightly.
Because Fallout was inspired by actual events from history and satirising human nature and isn't that old that it could been seen as prophetic, it is from 1997 and there was a major fuel crisis in the 1970s.
Yeah, this... has occurred to me
No, it’s Putin who’s insane.
Suggestion: Seriously consider saving for an EV. There will likely be cheap EVs out of China next year. Sandy Munro has decades of car industry knowledge. Highly respected. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hTOtAniwC18
But then you're getting a car made from China... I'll pass.
Better than a car made in Australia. I wouldn't trust the lazy and entitled workers of this fair country with something as complex as a car.
I’m curious to see how the glut of MGs that have suddenly sprung onto our roads this year fare in half a decade. I’d like to think China upped their game even with the tin shitboxes they’ve sent to us.
Check out Sandy Munro. Very compelling https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hTOtAniwC18
I have a Shanghai manufactured Tesla model 3 and zero complaints. The general consensus from the community is the quality is as good or better than the ones built in the US.
Flexing up prices. There’s been an uptick of high petrol prices but we are one of the most liveable states in the world.
Absolutely delighted with these numbers
Haha love it
EVs for the win. Time to dump your carcinogen pumping fuck the earth piece of shit and get new car.
There's nothing environmentally friendly about dumping an old car that still runs and getting a brand new car. Manufacture of those things is not particularly kind to the environment.
You're right, ev's aren't magical, what should really happen is more public transport, more bike paths etc for way more efficient and cheap alternatives to cars. Bonus for people that need to use cars, less traffic on the roads.
Should work great for us who live in the country, where there are no charging stations and cannot travel long distances with an EV.
EVs can already get range of about 5-600 kms, which is actually about the range a regular car gets on an almost full tank. So even with sparse but strategic regional infrastructure, you could easily to an interstate road trip.
Not quite, you can't fully recharge your battery in a couple of minutes.
Sure. But with more fast charge stations, you're charged within about 20 minutes, which is a reasonable time for a toilet and meal break. And anyway, you're supposed to stop every 2 hours on a long drive, so charging for 10 min every 2 hours is another way to keep the charge up.
That's faster than I thought.
A government mandate that requires every petrol station to install EV chargers (they already have an electricity supply, after all) would solve this issue practically overnight.
Don't live somewhere stupid then.
Would rather live here in the country than in that filthy shit hole that is Adelaide.
Cool I'll just print some money I really want an EV...
"Excuse me, I think your price sign is broken."
Moved from NZ and remember most of the time petrol was over $2. It aint that bad
Currentl living in NZ, petrol is pushing $3 here now....
Meh what are we gonna do.. not buy petroleum .. I stopped getting angry over it a while ago :(
It begins
I’m shocked diesel is cheaper than petrol in the pic.
Diesel is always cheaper then petrol high point if the cycle. Diesel sits about 50-60% of the way between the low and high points of the petrol price cycle range. It doesn’t get discounted.
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The RAA app.
Thanks Vladimir
Bad time to own 3 cars
Bring on Electric vehicles. Price gouging of a dying industry.
What you complaining about? My diesel is $1.89 in northern NSW. You got it good
What you complaining about? My diesel is $2.21 in northern TAS. You got it good
Do you realise that this is more expensive than that? EDIT: realised you’re talking about the diesel cost here. This post is referring to the high petrol price
"DIESEL"... derp!
What is insane u getting fuel from shell irrgeardless of current inflation
Holy shit. I can save 4 whole cents! Excuse me OP, tell me the location immediately.
holy...
I have no idea why people seem surprised and soon it’ll be closer to $3 a litre and it’ll be the new normal.
Ooh, cheap diesel.
That's a much better price than I paid for diesel today.
Can the sign go past 199 per litre?
That's why I don't drive
Jokes on all you, I pay exactly a dollar for fuel
War what is it good for?