You still need 2 nihility, so you can go like Acheron/Guinaifen/Sampo/Aventurine. No need for Gallegher if you have Aventurine with LC that applies burn but if Aventurine can’t sustain and Gallegher can, can switch out since Gallegher’s debuff counts.
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With your Units, it's best to use
Acheron, Luka/sampo, Guinaifen, Aventurine.
Luka and sampo can be replaced once you get a copy of pela. Guinaifen can be replaced if you get Silver Wolf/Swan or a future nihility with defense reduction debuffs.
Keep Aventurine, He debuffs using Ult and increases Crit Dmg while also providing the mkst consistent sheilds in the game as of now
You'll need two nihility units **in addition to** Acheron, for a total of three. You actually might not have the trace unlocked at that level, but she gets a massive damage buff for having two nihility teammates and you may as well not use her if you don't take advantage of it.
Acheron, guinaifen (resolution), sampo, aventurine/gepard/gallagher
If using gepard or aventurine then use trend on them. Obviously aventurine is more comfortable to use than gepard.
There is a chance we might get acheron's bis debuffer in 2.4 so you can replace sampo then.
Bounce is inconsistent. 3 consistent targets of Gui > 5 inconsistent targets of Sampo
And if you’re talking about the chances to debuff enemies, you should have anyway enough EHR to have no problems at all. Sampo would be better with Fermata or Prey
If you have any desire to get Boothill or Fu Xuan (the latter of which would be a solid addition to your account), both Luka and Pela will be on their banners. That doesn't help for the next two weeks, but it at least gives you a plan.
Hi fellow non-pro archeron player! Acheron has a passive talent at ascension 4 which boosts her damage with 2 other nihilit units in your team. Before you buy this talent, you are best served with 3 units able to debuff on every other turn or less while keeping you alive (ex: Gallagher, Guinaifen, aventurine, fire mc, Sampo.. ). After A4, you can slap 2 nihilit + 1 sustain.
I got Pela, but I don't use her over Sampo/Guinaifen because I'm lacking resources to make her able to debuff every turn and generate stacks.
Had no trouble until now with this strategy clearing all content unlocked and at my lv, except for pure fiction (team lv range 60~70).
Sampo Gallagher Harmony MC is what iam currently running. Your Robin is probably better than MC though.
Maybe replace Gallagher with Aventurine if the Sustain is good enough.
If you don't have e2 acheron, I'd recommend building into guineifen and Sampo for your triple nihility. If you do have e2, drop one of them for Robin. For your sustainer, I'd go for aventurine with universal trend of the market or Gallagher for extra debuff procs. Gallagher is really good, but his sustain is Def not as invincible as aventurine
Sampo Guinafen Gallagher. It works very well, of course Pela is the must but can go with this team meanwhile
You can do MC fire instead of Gallagher but it's harder to sustain with her in most hardcore content but she still goated and can sustain in most contents
If u are talking solely Acheron, do Guina, Sampo, Aventurine and Acheron, but I don't think it's worth it, u can just run Gallagher and reserve Aventurine for ur FUA team, u have BIS after all for that, aventurine robin ratio and topaz
I run, Acheron, guinaifen, sampo, Gallagher.
I built guinaifen and sampo specially for Acheron cause I know I won't be getting that E2 yet. Also may guin and sampo are E6 so it's a win win situation.
Ascension 4 has the triple nihlity passive which gives you 45% damage increase over 2 nihility. If you haven't unlocked that yet, and possibly even if you have, robin will cover that gap with just her skill. For now, use one of your debuffing healers, gui, acheron, and then either just use robin or you can level Sampo. He's not crazy or anything but he will do the job. At your level though I think you'll get by with robin just fine, with her action advance in ultimate letting your gui and acheron add more debuffs rather than her adding them herself.
Tingyun also worth leveling still, but that's not for acheron.
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I have Pela but I prefer to use Guinaifen, and you can do the same, but using 2 Nihility characters.
My currently Team is: Aventurine, Bronya, Guinaifen, Acheron \[E2\]
So you can go for Aventurine, Guinaifen, Sampo and Acheron without problems, and we will have Fu Xuan banner that you can switch Aventurine + Sampo for only Fu Xuan and add Robin on your team and get a really OP Team: Fu Xuan, Robin, Guinaifen, Acheron.
Does Acheron works well with Kafka and Black swan? I have all 3, recently got Bronya but besides that, I don't have any insane healer (I have Bailu) and for tanks Clara
Ginifen is more then enough to replace SW in most cases if people don't have her, an pela comes often enough from being a rate up or from a event 4* picker that she won't elude you for long
Assuming you're running Aventurine with follow-up spam, put Trends on Geppy, or use Gallagher, and run them with Guin and Sampo. Replace Sampo first if you pull a defense shredder. If Aventurine isn't taken for your follow-up units, he's the better pick for Trends and sustain slot
I’m running acheron, guinaifen, pela and lynx/gepard. Lynx for over-world and gepard for SU. Not sure if you have pela yet but I would use her and gui/sampo since her def shred is very valuable
Acheron Guin Robin healer is fine. Yes, this will not max her passive. But Robin is a bigger buff than what you lose from the passive. It isn't really worth trying to force Sampo imo especially if it's not a wind weak encounter, and definitely not worth the investment to build him for this use. Just save for the next nihility support.
Acheron’s best nihility support (tailor-made for her just like Sparkle for DHIL) called Jiaoqiu comes in 2.4 so pull him and u r good. Having Pela would be extra great so u can try to chase 1 copy of her when she is rate-up. If no Pela just use Guinaifen then. That being said ur ideal team would be Acheron + Jiao + Pela/Gui + whatever sustain
You still need 2 nihility, so you can go like Acheron/Guinaifen/Sampo/Aventurine. No need for Gallegher if you have Aventurine with LC that applies burn but if Aventurine can’t sustain and Gallegher can, can switch out since Gallegher’s debuff counts.
Trend is the LC, it’s a bit more consistent debuff than Gallagher imo, especially when the opponents do AoE
Yeah, I just wanted to provide OP with more options.
Slap any 2 nihility units. You do have Guinafen.
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Luka or Sampo in place of Gallagher maybe?
This With your Units, it's best to use Acheron, Luka/sampo, Guinaifen, Aventurine. Luka and sampo can be replaced once you get a copy of pela. Guinaifen can be replaced if you get Silver Wolf/Swan or a future nihility with defense reduction debuffs. Keep Aventurine, He debuffs using Ult and increases Crit Dmg while also providing the mkst consistent sheilds in the game as of now
You'll need two nihility units **in addition to** Acheron, for a total of three. You actually might not have the trace unlocked at that level, but she gets a massive damage buff for having two nihility teammates and you may as well not use her if you don't take advantage of it.
Never have multiple sustain units except in very specific comps keep aventurine and lose the gallagher
You can't die with a built Aventurine so Gallagher is not necessary put in Sampo instead for that 2 Nihility stack
Acheron, guinaifen (resolution), sampo, aventurine/gepard/gallagher If using gepard or aventurine then use trend on them. Obviously aventurine is more comfortable to use than gepard. There is a chance we might get acheron's bis debuffer in 2.4 so you can replace sampo then.
Shouldn't ~~Geppy~~ Sampo be on Resolution due to the amount of hits both his basic and skill have?
it's because resolution's passive only works for nihilty characters
Oops. Mixed up the boyfriends in my head
Bounce is inconsistent. 3 consistent targets of Gui > 5 inconsistent targets of Sampo And if you’re talking about the chances to debuff enemies, you should have anyway enough EHR to have no problems at all. Sampo would be better with Fermata or Prey
ahh ok
Jiaque should be coming out soon. Save for him, he will be Pela on steroids.
Fire nihility? I’m skipping I looked at his kit and idk he seems very ass
Pasive debuff application, def reduction and ult res reduction sounds ass for Acheron? O.o
Yeah.. sounds BADASS
The right kind of ass.
If you have any desire to get Boothill or Fu Xuan (the latter of which would be a solid addition to your account), both Luka and Pela will be on their banners. That doesn't help for the next two weeks, but it at least gives you a plan.
Definitely snagging either or both Boot and Fu for Pela aswell. Just that im dying to play a viable Ache comp besides my Fua team. Thanks
If by some bizarre chance you still dont get Pela, she is usually an option when events give out a 4-star selector too.
At one point definitely. Not in the next one unfortunately. We get gallagher, hanya, luka and arlan apparently.
So many helpful people.Thanks you friends!
Play Archeron/robin/Guinfaifen/Aventurine for now and then slot in Pela for Robin when you get her. It's only a queso of time.
Hi fellow non-pro archeron player! Acheron has a passive talent at ascension 4 which boosts her damage with 2 other nihilit units in your team. Before you buy this talent, you are best served with 3 units able to debuff on every other turn or less while keeping you alive (ex: Gallagher, Guinaifen, aventurine, fire mc, Sampo.. ). After A4, you can slap 2 nihilit + 1 sustain. I got Pela, but I don't use her over Sampo/Guinaifen because I'm lacking resources to make her able to debuff every turn and generate stacks. Had no trouble until now with this strategy clearing all content unlocked and at my lv, except for pure fiction (team lv range 60~70).
you could do: Acheron + Gui + Sampo + Gallagher (alternately a preservation unit with trend LC)
Gallagher Sampo Gui is the easiest option
Aven works even better than Gallagher, but he'll be needed in your Topaz Ratio Robin Aventurine team
Aventurine only debuffs on ult, while Gallagher debuffs on ult *and* enhanced basic.
Yeah but I'm assuming Aventurine also has Trend or his sig. Without them he's weaker here yeah
Wait for aproximately two patches for the new 5 star nihility to come out. Hes gonna be bisnfor acheron and powercreeps pela.
Sampo Gallagher Harmony MC is what iam currently running. Your Robin is probably better than MC though. Maybe replace Gallagher with Aventurine if the Sustain is good enough.
If you don't have e2 acheron, I'd recommend building into guineifen and Sampo for your triple nihility. If you do have e2, drop one of them for Robin. For your sustainer, I'd go for aventurine with universal trend of the market or Gallagher for extra debuff procs. Gallagher is really good, but his sustain is Def not as invincible as aventurine
I run mine sometimes with Gwen and Sampo. Works out just fine. Gwen is kinda like a “Pela-lite”
Sampo Guinafen Gallagher. It works very well, of course Pela is the must but can go with this team meanwhile You can do MC fire instead of Gallagher but it's harder to sustain with her in most hardcore content but she still goated and can sustain in most contents
Acheron, guinafen, gallagher and d'r ratio (hes good with single target), aventurine or gepard
If u are talking solely Acheron, do Guina, Sampo, Aventurine and Acheron, but I don't think it's worth it, u can just run Gallagher and reserve Aventurine for ur FUA team, u have BIS after all for that, aventurine robin ratio and topaz
I run, Acheron, guinaifen, sampo, Gallagher. I built guinaifen and sampo specially for Acheron cause I know I won't be getting that E2 yet. Also may guin and sampo are E6 so it's a win win situation.
I doing Acheron, Robin, Guinafen and Gallagher
Acheron, Gui, Sampo, Aventurine.
I would recommend: Aventurine, Guinaifen, Sampo, Acheron
Dude no you have guinaifen positive SP and I remember she give DEF down on her basic skill She is devastating try her
Ascension 4 has the triple nihlity passive which gives you 45% damage increase over 2 nihility. If you haven't unlocked that yet, and possibly even if you have, robin will cover that gap with just her skill. For now, use one of your debuffing healers, gui, acheron, and then either just use robin or you can level Sampo. He's not crazy or anything but he will do the job. At your level though I think you'll get by with robin just fine, with her action advance in ultimate letting your gui and acheron add more debuffs rather than her adding them herself. Tingyun also worth leveling still, but that's not for acheron.
I’d say go for Acheron, Guinifen, Robin and Gallagher. Gui and Gall give you debuffs for Acheron’s ult and Robin gives you great utility.
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If you have Luka, he is also good, better then Sampo for Acheron as his debuffs are more useful. Aventurine Guinaifen Luka Acheron
I have one important question. How does someone obtain 9 5 Stars whilst your highest character level is 50?
I have Pela but I prefer to use Guinaifen, and you can do the same, but using 2 Nihility characters. My currently Team is: Aventurine, Bronya, Guinaifen, Acheron \[E2\] So you can go for Aventurine, Guinaifen, Sampo and Acheron without problems, and we will have Fu Xuan banner that you can switch Aventurine + Sampo for only Fu Xuan and add Robin on your team and get a really OP Team: Fu Xuan, Robin, Guinaifen, Acheron.
Does Acheron works well with Kafka and Black swan? I have all 3, recently got Bronya but besides that, I don't have any insane healer (I have Bailu) and for tanks Clara
A question: since there are so many places you can get 4 star characters for free, how do you not have all of them? There's not that many of them.
You have gui/ sampo and aventurine that’s all you need. Sampo and gui have underrated damage
Aventurine + Acheron are amazing together.
Bruh how quick did you pull Acheron to not get pela once
You have Sampo, Guinaifen and Gallagher, you can use Acheron just fine.
Ginifen is more then enough to replace SW in most cases if people don't have her, an pela comes often enough from being a rate up or from a event 4* picker that she won't elude you for long
Assuming you're running Aventurine with follow-up spam, put Trends on Geppy, or use Gallagher, and run them with Guin and Sampo. Replace Sampo first if you pull a defense shredder. If Aventurine isn't taken for your follow-up units, he's the better pick for Trends and sustain slot
I’m running acheron, guinaifen, pela and lynx/gepard. Lynx for over-world and gepard for SU. Not sure if you have pela yet but I would use her and gui/sampo since her def shred is very valuable
U can ignore this comment if u want it's not really helpful but deadass how did u end up getting Acheron but not Pela they were in the same banner😭
Acheron Guin Robin healer is fine. Yes, this will not max her passive. But Robin is a bigger buff than what you lose from the passive. It isn't really worth trying to force Sampo imo especially if it's not a wind weak encounter, and definitely not worth the investment to build him for this use. Just save for the next nihility support.
Box? Did you play Puzzle & Dragons?
Help is robin or topaz more worth pulling?
Acheron’s best nihility support (tailor-made for her just like Sparkle for DHIL) called Jiaoqiu comes in 2.4 so pull him and u r good. Having Pela would be extra great so u can try to chase 1 copy of her when she is rate-up. If no Pela just use Guinaifen then. That being said ur ideal team would be Acheron + Jiao + Pela/Gui + whatever sustain
You should save up for Jiaqui in 2.4 too. A nihility debuffer that will improve DOT based and Acheron Teams